Jeff Whiteley the founder of the nonprofit Excellence in the Community, joins The Path of Art show host Ryan Meeks to talk about how things that seem to be failures often turn into successes and can be turned into successes with the right motivation.

Jeff has been involved with music in Utah for many years including his work as the guitarist and singer for Lark and Spur.

Jeff talks about his time in France and the contrast between that and being a musician there vs being a musician in Utah and what things need to change to make it better.