Jason, how is your summer, Ben, and also what has brought you.

Jason, how is your summer, Ben, and also what has brought you.

Here to one Jets Drive had a great summer. Has spent some time up in Nantucket, so we enjoy that get ourselves out of the Texas heat. But then I've been on a little bit of a training camp tour. I was in Baltimore yesterday and I'm headed to Kansas City and Denver and University of Oklahoma.

Here to one Jets Drive had a great summer. Has spent some time up in Nantucket, so we enjoy that get ourselves out of the Texas heat. But then I've been on a little bit of a training camp tour. I was in Baltimore yesterday and I'm headed to Kansas City and Denver and University of Oklahoma.

I'm gonna go to Notre Dame and then I'm.

I'm gonna go to Notre Dame and then I'm.

Gonna go to Philly, Pittsburgh and Buffalo next week. So getting ready for the season. The season's almost upon us, and just really fun being here seeing the Jets practice today.

Gonna go to Philly, Pittsburgh and Buffalo next week. So getting ready for the season. The season's almost upon us, and just really fun being here seeing the Jets practice today.

You just spoke to Aaron Rodgers. You're working on a pretty cool project.

You just spoke to Aaron Rodgers. You're working on a pretty cool project.

Can you tell us about it.

Can you tell us about it.

Yeah, we're working on a project with NFL Films about the evolution of throwing a football. And it all started because of a conversation I had with Aaron a couple of years ago when he was in Green Bay, and I just ask him give me a thought on throwing, because he's one of the great throwers of his generation and maybe of all time. And he stands up and says, you know, all I think about is getting the weight to the inside of my left ankle, the inside of my left half, and the inside of my left knee.

Yeah, we're working on a project with NFL Films about the evolution of throwing a football. And it all started because of a conversation I had with Aaron a couple of years ago when he was in Green Bay, and I just ask him give me a thought on throwing, because he's one of the great throwers of his generation and maybe of all time. And he stands up and says, you know, all I think about is getting the weight to the inside of my left ankle, the inside of my left half, and the inside of my left knee.

And I was like, what you know?

And I was like, what you know?

And so we talked about it further and and just kind of dug into it. And as I left the conversation, I said to myself, I've been thinking about throwing a football my whole life, talk to everybody about it, and I've never heard anybody talk about it that way. And I was thinking about this famous New York Jet Joe Namath poster. I used to have the throwing sequence. I'm name of throwing a football. There's eight pictures and it's the classic name of release with a little paragraph description in front of each of these pictures about you know what he's thinking about, the weight transfer, the arm angle, all of those things. And I used to have that on my wall growing up. And I said, you know, boy, have things changed from the early seventies with Namath and now now to Aaron Rodgers, two of the best throwers of their generations, but doing it completely differently. So we got with NFL films and we've kind of dived into this topic and uh, and we've talked to a lot of different guys. Talked to Drew Brees and Dak Prescott and Troy Aikman and Kurt Warner and North Turner and Tom House and now we talked to Aaron and just excited to put this all together and kind of see how the whole thing has evolved. And spent a lot of time with each of these guys and they had so many great insights. So excited about this.

And so we talked about it further and and just kind of dug into it. And as I left the conversation, I said to myself, I've been thinking about throwing a football my whole life, talk to everybody about it, and I've never heard anybody talk about it that way. And I was thinking about this famous New York Jet Joe Namath poster. I used to have the throwing sequence. I'm name of throwing a football. There's eight pictures and it's the classic name of release with a little paragraph description in front of each of these pictures about you know what he's thinking about, the weight transfer, the arm angle, all of those things. And I used to have that on my wall growing up. And I said, you know, boy, have things changed from the early seventies with Namath and now now to Aaron Rodgers, two of the best throwers of their generations, but doing it completely differently. So we got with NFL films and we've kind of dived into this topic and uh, and we've talked to a lot of different guys. Talked to Drew Brees and Dak Prescott and Troy Aikman and Kurt Warner and North Turner and Tom House and now we talked to Aaron and just excited to put this all together and kind of see how the whole thing has evolved. And spent a lot of time with each of these guys and they had so many great insights. So excited about this.

This is so interesting.

This is so interesting.

What stands out to you about the way Aaron throws it full?

What stands out to you about the way Aaron throws it full?

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I was on the other side of it a lot as a coach in Dallas, and we had some great battles with them, but he always played so well and played so well on the big moments, and anybody who watches it says, he just has this unique way of throwing the ball, and he throws it what was it like a tennis ball? And I was in Miami. He was my first job as a coach. I was the quarterback coach for Nick Saban. In two thousand and five, I just retired and Aaron and Alex Smith were coming out in that draft and we had the second pick of the draft and we chose not to take Aaron Rodgers and about five MVPs later in a Hall of Fame career. But he's just an amazing player first and foremost. And the way he throws the ball, I think is unique and as good as anybody who's ever played. So to hear him talk about that, the things he thinks about, the things are important to him as a passer, it's really fun.

I was on the other side of it a lot as a coach in Dallas, and we had some great battles with them, but he always played so well and played so well on the big moments, and anybody who watches it says, he just has this unique way of throwing the ball, and he throws it what was it like a tennis ball? And I was in Miami. He was my first job as a coach. I was the quarterback coach for Nick Saban. In two thousand and five, I just retired and Aaron and Alex Smith were coming out in that draft and we had the second pick of the draft and we chose not to take Aaron Rodgers and about five MVPs later in a Hall of Fame career. But he's just an amazing player first and foremost. And the way he throws the ball, I think is unique and as good as anybody who's ever played. So to hear him talk about that, the things he thinks about, the things are important to him as a passer, it's really fun.

What is important to him as a passer, because people would make the argument, there's many people would make the argument that nobody's thrown the football better in the history of Art League than him.

What is important to him as a passer, because people would make the argument, there's many people would make the argument that nobody's thrown the football better in the history of Art League than him.

Well, I think he's a really talented guy, but he's a really thoughtful guy, and I think he said a very natural motion. Throughout his life. He talked about watching Joe Montana as a kid, and then going out in the yard and throwing with his brother and his dad and and and having some of those incredible role models when he was young. But then you know, he goes to cal and plays for Jeff Tedford, and Jeff Tedford molded a lot of great quarterbacks, but he has his quarterbacks holding the ball up really high. And so when you watched Aaron Rodgers on film in college, that's what you saw, and you said Okay, is he a natural pass or what is it is? He looks a little awkward here, and so you have to kind of look beyond that and say, Okay, if he cared in a more traditional way, do you like how he throws the ball? And it's hard, it's hard to say that you don't. Then he goes to Green Bay and sits for a while and watches Brett Farva, And he was so great in our conversation today talking about how much he benefited from just watching Farv and how he threw the ball from so many different body angles and arm angles and what he learned earn from that, and then obviously adopted some of that in his career and has been one of the best over the last twenty years in the NFL. So I just think he's really natural throwing the ball. But I think he's really thoughtful too, and I think he's refined his throwing motion. And the other part of it is he's such a smart player and sees the game and understands the game and gets his team in a great position. So I think he provides himself a really good platform for success, understanding what his offense is doing, understanding what the defense is trying to take away understanding what the weaknesses are. I think that's a huge part of his game as well.

Well, I think he's a really talented guy, but he's a really thoughtful guy, and I think he said a very natural motion. Throughout his life. He talked about watching Joe Montana as a kid, and then going out in the yard and throwing with his brother and his dad and and and having some of those incredible role models when he was young. But then you know, he goes to cal and plays for Jeff Tedford, and Jeff Tedford molded a lot of great quarterbacks, but he has his quarterbacks holding the ball up really high. And so when you watched Aaron Rodgers on film in college, that's what you saw, and you said Okay, is he a natural pass or what is it is? He looks a little awkward here, and so you have to kind of look beyond that and say, Okay, if he cared in a more traditional way, do you like how he throws the ball? And it's hard, it's hard to say that you don't. Then he goes to Green Bay and sits for a while and watches Brett Farva, And he was so great in our conversation today talking about how much he benefited from just watching Farv and how he threw the ball from so many different body angles and arm angles and what he learned earn from that, and then obviously adopted some of that in his career and has been one of the best over the last twenty years in the NFL. So I just think he's really natural throwing the ball. But I think he's really thoughtful too, and I think he's refined his throwing motion. And the other part of it is he's such a smart player and sees the game and understands the game and gets his team in a great position. So I think he provides himself a really good platform for success, understanding what his offense is doing, understanding what the defense is trying to take away understanding what the weaknesses are. I think that's a huge part of his game as well.

He can make any throw on the field. But the one stead that stands out to me, maybe above the rest, that he has the number one touchdown interception ratio in NFL history, and you watch him out here in the practice field, he does not turn the ball over.

He can make any throw on the field. But the one stead that stands out to me, maybe above the rest, that he has the number one touchdown interception ratio in NFL history, and you watch him out here in the practice field, he does not turn the ball over.

Yeah, he's incredibly small art his understanding of the game, but then he's an outstanding decision maker and then he can throw the ball where he wants to throw, so he keeps it away from the defense. Great back shoulder today in practice to Garrett Wilson on the right sideline there against Sauce, and you know the ball's boom, it's right there. It's away from Sauce only where Garrett can make the play. So he has a unique arm talent. You go with just him being smart, him being a great decision maker, him understanding the game and how each play fits into the game, and then keeping the ball out of harm's way while he makes plays.

Yeah, he's incredibly small art his understanding of the game, but then he's an outstanding decision maker and then he can throw the ball where he wants to throw, so he keeps it away from the defense. Great back shoulder today in practice to Garrett Wilson on the right sideline there against Sauce, and you know the ball's boom, it's right there. It's away from Sauce only where Garrett can make the play. So he has a unique arm talent. You go with just him being smart, him being a great decision maker, him understanding the game and how each play fits into the game, and then keeping the ball out of harm's way while he makes plays.

It's unique. It's rare.

It's unique. It's rare.

Is he naturally patient?

Is he naturally patient?

Because another thing that stands out to me, when the offense has the ball he's had a lot of long drives and it's moved the ball. Periods where they're always getting positive yards, he seemingly never is. It is at a disadvantage and when he's operating.

Because another thing that stands out to me, when the offense has the ball he's had a lot of long drives and it's moved the ball. Periods where they're always getting positive yards, he seemingly never is. It is at a disadvantage and when he's operating.

The controls again, I think it goes back to his understanding of the game and foremost, he understands the play versus the defense, and when he has an opportunity to go take a shot down the field, nobody does it better. But when he doesn't, he quickly checks the ball down and keeps the ball moving. He keeps himself and his team out of harm's way. And you know, he probably learned that early on. I thought Farv always did a good job of that, where he would take the check down, take the check down, and then take the shot. But you know, in comparison, Farv was probably too aggressive at times, and Aaron seems to be able to do the same thing and again stay away from turning the ball over. And that's what gives your team a chance to win. When you throw four times as many touchdowns as you do interceptions over the course of your career, you're going to have a lot of success.

The controls again, I think it goes back to his understanding of the game and foremost, he understands the play versus the defense, and when he has an opportunity to go take a shot down the field, nobody does it better. But when he doesn't, he quickly checks the ball down and keeps the ball moving. He keeps himself and his team out of harm's way. And you know, he probably learned that early on. I thought Farv always did a good job of that, where he would take the check down, take the check down, and then take the shot. But you know, in comparison, Farv was probably too aggressive at times, and Aaron seems to be able to do the same thing and again stay away from turning the ball over. And that's what gives your team a chance to win. When you throw four times as many touchdowns as you do interceptions over the course of your career, you're going to have a lot of success.

What do all the great ones have in common?

What do all the great ones have in common?

Because You've spoken to a lot of them.

Because You've spoken to a lot of them.

You played behind one of them. You just mentioned Troy Aikman before. What are the great quarterbacks in this league have common?

You played behind one of them. You just mentioned Troy Aikman before. What are the great quarterbacks in this league have common?

Oh, I think there's so much that goes into it. For me, more than anything else, it starts inside of them. I think they're all driven to be the best, and everything they do in their life is geared towards them being the best and the elite ones. It's not only for them to be their best, it's for the team to be their best. They're making everybody else around them better. And it's their work ethic, it's their example, it's their attention to detail, it's their striving for excellence, all of those things that the elite people in all walks of life do. And then when you start talking about the more specific stuff about the quarterback position, I always said that line one with quarterback is instinct. Quarterbacks come in all shapes and sizes. The one thing that all the great quarterbacks have is they have an instinct and a feel for the game. My dad, who was a scout and a coach for a long time, used to say aptitude to play. They understand how to play. When you watch Aaron Rodgers there playing football. He understands how to play. And I think all the great ones in all the sports, regardless of what your position is, they have that.

Oh, I think there's so much that goes into it. For me, more than anything else, it starts inside of them. I think they're all driven to be the best, and everything they do in their life is geared towards them being the best and the elite ones. It's not only for them to be their best, it's for the team to be their best. They're making everybody else around them better. And it's their work ethic, it's their example, it's their attention to detail, it's their striving for excellence, all of those things that the elite people in all walks of life do. And then when you start talking about the more specific stuff about the quarterback position, I always said that line one with quarterback is instinct. Quarterbacks come in all shapes and sizes. The one thing that all the great quarterbacks have is they have an instinct and a feel for the game. My dad, who was a scout and a coach for a long time, used to say aptitude to play. They understand how to play. When you watch Aaron Rodgers there playing football. He understands how to play. And I think all the great ones in all the sports, regardless of what your position is, they have that.

They have that feel and that instinct and.

They have that feel and that instinct and.

A lot of it comes from playing a lot from guys who grew up playing in the street and grew up playing on the playground and they would go down in there and play pick up basketball and stickball and all of that. They're just instinctive athletes. They see things, they feel things. So I think the best quarterbacks for me have that. I think they're smart, they're tough, they're accurate, they're great decision makers. All of those things are the qualities that you're looking for. And guys and then whatever their athletic ability is, their ability to move their feet, make plays with their feet, their arm talent, that's what takes them to that next level and in many cases gives the guys the opportunity to win championships and wear gold jackets.

A lot of it comes from playing a lot from guys who grew up playing in the street and grew up playing on the playground and they would go down in there and play pick up basketball and stickball and all of that. They're just instinctive athletes. They see things, they feel things. So I think the best quarterbacks for me have that. I think they're smart, they're tough, they're accurate, they're great decision makers. All of those things are the qualities that you're looking for. And guys and then whatever their athletic ability is, their ability to move their feet, make plays with their feet, their arm talent, that's what takes them to that next level and in many cases gives the guys the opportunity to win championships and wear gold jackets.

You're a guy who attended Princeton, you played quarterback in the NFL.

You're a guy who attended Princeton, you played quarterback in the NFL.

When you have these conversations with.

When you have these conversations with.

Aaron, are you, I'm super impressed by his intelligence, the knowledge and also the memory, the recall that he has. It's like a photogenic memory where he can say something that happened in twenty twelve and you'll ask him, hey, remember that in the third quarter and what blitz they were thrown at you and don't know exactly what you're talking about.

Aaron, are you, I'm super impressed by his intelligence, the knowledge and also the memory, the recall that he has. It's like a photogenic memory where he can say something that happened in twenty twelve and you'll ask him, hey, remember that in the third quarter and what blitz they were thrown at you and don't know exactly what you're talking about.

Yeah, And again, I think that goes to him being a smart person, a smart player, and also someone who cares and he's invested in this and so he knows about his technique, He's thought about his technique. He talked about how, you know, he used to throw a certain way and then he started to evolve because he had some injuries, and then it was like, Okay, let me think about what this is that I'm doing so I can first and foremost replicate it and then express it to other people. And that's what he's that's what he's been able to do. And he was so good on that documentary that we're doing talking about not only his throwing motion, but the influences on him and then maybe the influences he's had on others. And it's really a fun listen.

Yeah, And again, I think that goes to him being a smart person, a smart player, and also someone who cares and he's invested in this and so he knows about his technique, He's thought about his technique. He talked about how, you know, he used to throw a certain way and then he started to evolve because he had some injuries, and then it was like, Okay, let me think about what this is that I'm doing so I can first and foremost replicate it and then express it to other people. And that's what he's that's what he's been able to do. And he was so good on that documentary that we're doing talking about not only his throwing motion, but the influences on him and then maybe the influences he's had on others. And it's really a fun listen.

How different is it now when you see a quarterback who's trying to do what he's doing at forty maybe compared to a couple decades when you and Troy and the boys were going at it for the Cowboys. As far as the advances that we have medically, and also what these guys are doing with their bodies.

How different is it now when you see a quarterback who's trying to do what he's doing at forty maybe compared to a couple decades when you and Troy and the boys were going at it for the Cowboys. As far as the advances that we have medically, and also what these guys are doing with their bodies.

Now, well, you know, of all the incredible contributions that Tom Brady has made to the game of football, I think the fact that he played till he was forty five and played at such a high level for me, ranks way up there. It's twenty twenty two years of excellence. And he showed people that if you approach it the right way, you can keep going, you can keep playing. And he made an incredible commitment to do that. And I think some other guys, Aaron being one of them, started to saying, Hey, what an amazing example that is to be able to do that, sustain that excellence for so long. I want a part of that, right, And everyone starts taking care of their body more and they start doing all the things they need to do to stay healthy for a longer period of time. Now, we have to be honest, the rules for quarterbacks have changed, yes, right, the quarterbacks back in the day were getting hit, Yeah, getting hit a lot. And you know the NFL has always been protective of quarterbacks, but very different now than it was even ten or fifteen years ago. So the guys that played back in the eighties and the nineties, those guys got hit a lot more and that takes its toll over time. So I think the rules changes have contributed to it. But there's no doubt the nutrition and all the attention that guys are giving to their bodies now has allowed them to, you know, have longer careers and play the game at a high level for a longer period of time.

Now, well, you know, of all the incredible contributions that Tom Brady has made to the game of football, I think the fact that he played till he was forty five and played at such a high level for me, ranks way up there. It's twenty twenty two years of excellence. And he showed people that if you approach it the right way, you can keep going, you can keep playing. And he made an incredible commitment to do that. And I think some other guys, Aaron being one of them, started to saying, Hey, what an amazing example that is to be able to do that, sustain that excellence for so long. I want a part of that, right, And everyone starts taking care of their body more and they start doing all the things they need to do to stay healthy for a longer period of time. Now, we have to be honest, the rules for quarterbacks have changed, yes, right, the quarterbacks back in the day were getting hit, Yeah, getting hit a lot. And you know the NFL has always been protective of quarterbacks, but very different now than it was even ten or fifteen years ago. So the guys that played back in the eighties and the nineties, those guys got hit a lot more and that takes its toll over time. So I think the rules changes have contributed to it. But there's no doubt the nutrition and all the attention that guys are giving to their bodies now has allowed them to, you know, have longer careers and play the game at a high level for a longer period of time.

You know this better than anybody.

You know this better than anybody.

The season is an incredible journey. It is a marathon, it is not a sprint. But when you look at this Jets team, who's been very solid to elites on the defensive side of the ball, with good special teams, what's the potential of this group if this offense takes the next step and we see Aaron Rodgers out there on the field for seventeen games.

The season is an incredible journey. It is a marathon, it is not a sprint. But when you look at this Jets team, who's been very solid to elites on the defensive side of the ball, with good special teams, what's the potential of this group if this offense takes the next step and we see Aaron Rodgers out there on the field for seventeen games.

Well, I'm a big fan of the Jets, and I think they've done a good job bringing in cornerstone players throughout their team, Guys who are outstanding players, but they're also outstanding people. In great examples to their teammates, the guys that you want to build the whole franchise around them. They have them on defense, they have them on the offensive side of the ball. I think they've done a good job bolstering the offensive line with some veteran players. Tyron Smith playing left tackle, the guy I know very well. We drafted him in Dallas. He was our first draft pick when I became the head coach, and he's been one of those guys for that franchise forever. And the Jets recognize that. You bring him in there, you put them at that really critical position. Morgan Moses on the other side, Simpson, you know, he got some young guys inside.

Well, I'm a big fan of the Jets, and I think they've done a good job bringing in cornerstone players throughout their team, Guys who are outstanding players, but they're also outstanding people. In great examples to their teammates, the guys that you want to build the whole franchise around them. They have them on defense, they have them on the offensive side of the ball. I think they've done a good job bolstering the offensive line with some veteran players. Tyron Smith playing left tackle, the guy I know very well. We drafted him in Dallas. He was our first draft pick when I became the head coach, and he's been one of those guys for that franchise forever. And the Jets recognize that. You bring him in there, you put them at that really critical position. Morgan Moses on the other side, Simpson, you know, he got some young guys inside.

You know.

You know.

I think they have a chance on offense to be significantly better than they've been, not only because Aaron Rodgers will be the quarterback, but because they bolstered the offensive line. There's talent in the backfield, there's talent outside. So I think there's gonna be a comfort level that they have because they're gonna be more physical upfront, and they're gonna control the line of scrimmage more and they're gonna have Aaron Rodgers, a veteran quarterback. Run of the show for him, and I think that's gonna make everybody around him better.

I think they have a chance on offense to be significantly better than they've been, not only because Aaron Rodgers will be the quarterback, but because they bolstered the offensive line. There's talent in the backfield, there's talent outside. So I think there's gonna be a comfort level that they have because they're gonna be more physical upfront, and they're gonna control the line of scrimmage more and they're gonna have Aaron Rodgers, a veteran quarterback. Run of the show for him, and I think that's gonna make everybody around him better.

What's it like having Tyrone Smith on your team knowing that he's gonna protect your quarterbacks blind side each week?

What's it like having Tyrone Smith on your team knowing that he's gonna protect your quarterbacks blind side each week?

You know, Tyron had some injuries throughout his career, and I think you know, our record when he was playing versus when he was not playing.

You know, Tyron had some injuries throughout his career, and I think you know, our record when he was playing versus when he was not playing.

Was significantly different.

Was significantly different.

Yeah, He's just one of those guys. And like I said, he was the first player we took when I became the head coach because I believe he represented everything we wanted our program to be. And he was that for thirteen years down there in Dallas. And he's an outstanding player. When you watched him on tape in college in the run game, he'd get his hands on guys and just block them and block them and block them to the end of the down and block them into the gatorade jug on the sidelines. And then you know, as a pass protector was the same thing. He'd get his hands inside and grab those guys and they couldn't move. And when you look at a player, you know, sometimes you have to just forget everything you know about football.

Yeah, He's just one of those guys. And like I said, he was the first player we took when I became the head coach because I believe he represented everything we wanted our program to be. And he was that for thirteen years down there in Dallas. And he's an outstanding player. When you watched him on tape in college in the run game, he'd get his hands on guys and just block them and block them and block them to the end of the down and block them into the gatorade jug on the sidelines. And then you know, as a pass protector was the same thing. He'd get his hands inside and grab those guys and they couldn't move. And when you look at a player, you know, sometimes you have to just forget everything you know about football.

And just watch it. You know.

And just watch it. You know.

I used to always say that you know, they people use the word identity a lot. Identity is the most expert person and the least expert person in the field watching something and drawing the same thing, right. And so with Tyron, it was like you didn't have to know anything about football. You say, Okay, your goal is to make sure the guy that you're blocking doesn't get to the quarterback or to the running back. Well, he seems to do that on every play. Yeah, you know, he just blocks his guy and keeps locking him. And that's what he's done for Dallas for a long time. And I think he's a great addition to the Jets.

I used to always say that you know, they people use the word identity a lot. Identity is the most expert person and the least expert person in the field watching something and drawing the same thing, right. And so with Tyron, it was like you didn't have to know anything about football. You say, Okay, your goal is to make sure the guy that you're blocking doesn't get to the quarterback or to the running back. Well, he seems to do that on every play. Yeah, you know, he just blocks his guy and keeps locking him. And that's what he's done for Dallas for a long time. And I think he's a great addition to the Jets.

Do you think he's a surefire Hall of Famer? And not to put you on the spot, but you're talking about an eight time Pro Bowler, a five times First and Second Team.

Do you think he's a surefire Hall of Famer? And not to put you on the spot, but you're talking about an eight time Pro Bowler, a five times First and Second Team.

I mean, to me, he's the first ballot Hall of Famer. He's the best left tackles generation here. And Trent Williams yeah, or the two guys, Yeah, I mean they're they're they're slam dunk guys. I was fortunate to play with Larry Allen, who's I think arguably the best offensive lineman, certainly the best I've been around, and arguably the best ever. You know Tyron Smith is in that is in that category.

I mean, to me, he's the first ballot Hall of Famer. He's the best left tackles generation here. And Trent Williams yeah, or the two guys, Yeah, I mean they're they're they're slam dunk guys. I was fortunate to play with Larry Allen, who's I think arguably the best offensive lineman, certainly the best I've been around, and arguably the best ever. You know Tyron Smith is in that is in that category.

For me, is this kind of a cool situation for a young offensive lineman like Olu Fashionw who's drafted number eleven overall. He comes in and you do have Tyron and you have more than Moses on the opposite side, both thirty three years old. But when you're talking about best left tackles over the last twenty five years, you're looking at the guy right in front of.

For me, is this kind of a cool situation for a young offensive lineman like Olu Fashionw who's drafted number eleven overall. He comes in and you do have Tyron and you have more than Moses on the opposite side, both thirty three years old. But when you're talking about best left tackles over the last twenty five years, you're looking at the guy right in front of.

No doubt, no doubt, And you know, we're talking about Aaron Rodgers being a young quarterback in Green Bay being influenced by Brett Farvre. It's the same thing. It's one of the great dynamics in the NFL when young players come in and they see a veteran guy who's a pro, who knows how to do it, who does things the right way day in and day out, plays the right way, takes care of his body, is a great teammate, is a great leader. It's amazing the impact that that can have on someone's career. And you as a coach can preach all those same things, but when the player sees the player like this guy's been to eight Pro Bowls, this guy's going to the Hall of Fame and this is what he does, right, I'm going to make sure I do that because I want to have that same kind of success. And we had a lot of those guys in Dallas. Tyrone was one of them, Zach Martin, Travis Frederick on the offensive line, we had Jason Witten, Sean Lee, We had all these different guys that you would say, as a coach, just watch number eighty two, watch seventy seven. You know, on the young guys, they gravitate towards them, they follow that example and all of a sudden they're on the right path.

No doubt, no doubt, And you know, we're talking about Aaron Rodgers being a young quarterback in Green Bay being influenced by Brett Farvre. It's the same thing. It's one of the great dynamics in the NFL when young players come in and they see a veteran guy who's a pro, who knows how to do it, who does things the right way day in and day out, plays the right way, takes care of his body, is a great teammate, is a great leader. It's amazing the impact that that can have on someone's career. And you as a coach can preach all those same things, but when the player sees the player like this guy's been to eight Pro Bowls, this guy's going to the Hall of Fame and this is what he does, right, I'm going to make sure I do that because I want to have that same kind of success. And we had a lot of those guys in Dallas. Tyrone was one of them, Zach Martin, Travis Frederick on the offensive line, we had Jason Witten, Sean Lee, We had all these different guys that you would say, as a coach, just watch number eighty two, watch seventy seven. You know, on the young guys, they gravitate towards them, they follow that example and all of a sudden they're on the right path.

How about the young playmakers that Aaron has around him right now? Starting in the backfield.

How about the young playmakers that Aaron has around him right now? Starting in the backfield.

With Brees Hall.

With Brees Hall.

There's a couple of rookie running backs who've been pressed early on Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis. But Garrett Wilson looks like he's just ready to go in a different stratosphere right now. And if so, we'll start with Breece and Garrett.

There's a couple of rookie running backs who've been pressed early on Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis. But Garrett Wilson looks like he's just ready to go in a different stratosphere right now. And if so, we'll start with Breece and Garrett.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Again, we talked about cornerstone players, and when I said guy in the backfield, we're talking about bris Sall. We're talking about the guy outside, talking about Garrett Wilson, and those are the guys you're talking about. And when you think about them and saw Us and Queen and all these different guys, it's like you got to be kidneyed. It's a really good football team. And and those young guys will benefit from being around Aaron Rodgers, They'll benefit from being around Tyron Smith, these veteran players who know how to do it, who are pros, and there's so much juice that Breece brings and Garrett brings to this team. They're going to be featured players and pretty confident that, you know, the coaches will do a good job putting them in position to have opportunities, and pretty confident that Aaron will do the same thing. And they're going to be the go to guys for the Jests offense. And I'm betting on I'm not against them.

Again, we talked about cornerstone players, and when I said guy in the backfield, we're talking about bris Sall. We're talking about the guy outside, talking about Garrett Wilson, and those are the guys you're talking about. And when you think about them and saw Us and Queen and all these different guys, it's like you got to be kidneyed. It's a really good football team. And and those young guys will benefit from being around Aaron Rodgers, They'll benefit from being around Tyron Smith, these veteran players who know how to do it, who are pros, and there's so much juice that Breece brings and Garrett brings to this team. They're going to be featured players and pretty confident that, you know, the coaches will do a good job putting them in position to have opportunities, and pretty confident that Aaron will do the same thing. And they're going to be the go to guys for the Jests offense. And I'm betting on I'm not against them.

You know America's team better than anybody.

You know America's team better than anybody.

But with that being said, what do you make of the Jets schedule this year? And obviously you're working Sunday night football, but as far as having the seven standalone games over their first.

But with that being said, what do you make of the Jets schedule this year? And obviously you're working Sunday night football, but as far as having the seven standalone games over their first.

Eleven, well, it's something that in Dallas we had a lot of you know, and it goes way back to the seventies when Rogers, staw Back and Tom Landry are running the show. But you know that franchise has been in those situations for a long time. And you know, I was there as a player, and I was there as an assistant coach and as a head coach, and I always just felt like, you embrace it. You embrace those opportunities. You don't shy away from them. This is this is why you do this. And so for the Jets, you know the challenge will be sometimes the weekly schedule gets tough. You're playing at night, you're playing on Monday. You know you have early game, you have very few early games. You have a lot of night games in later games. But you just figure it out and you embrace those opportunities and you make the adjustments with the schedules the way you need to. But to me, it's a fun year to be a part of the Jets.

Eleven, well, it's something that in Dallas we had a lot of you know, and it goes way back to the seventies when Rogers, staw Back and Tom Landry are running the show. But you know that franchise has been in those situations for a long time. And you know, I was there as a player, and I was there as an assistant coach and as a head coach, and I always just felt like, you embrace it. You embrace those opportunities. You don't shy away from them. This is this is why you do this. And so for the Jets, you know the challenge will be sometimes the weekly schedule gets tough. You're playing at night, you're playing on Monday. You know you have early game, you have very few early games. You have a lot of night games in later games. But you just figure it out and you embrace those opportunities and you make the adjustments with the schedules the way you need to. But to me, it's a fun year to be a part of the Jets.

You played the game, you were an o C, you were a head coach.

You played the game, you were an o C, you were a head coach.

We just talked about it.

We just talked about it.

If you have a game and the Jets are in your schedule and you're facing that defense, and you look across from here and there's Quinn Williams and there's Jermaine Johnson, and there's c. J. Mosley, and there's Quincy Williams, and there's Sauce Gardner and DJ Reid, Michael Carter.

If you have a game and the Jets are in your schedule and you're facing that defense, and you look across from here and there's Quinn Williams and there's Jermaine Johnson, and there's c. J. Mosley, and there's Quincy Williams, and there's Sauce Gardner and DJ Reid, Michael Carter.

Where are you attacking? What are you trying to do well?

Where are you attacking? What are you trying to do well?

I don't see a lot of weaknesses. They're really good on all three levels. They're really good defending the run. They can rush the pass, or they can cover on the back end. They can create turnovers. They're fundamentally sound. They don't give you a lot of big plays, so it's an excellent defense. I do think what you need to do when you play teams like this is you have to emphasize the importance of being patient, and then you have to emphasize the importance of when we get our opportunity, we have to cash in on it.

I don't see a lot of weaknesses. They're really good on all three levels. They're really good defending the run. They can rush the pass, or they can cover on the back end. They can create turnovers. They're fundamentally sound. They don't give you a lot of big plays, so it's an excellent defense. I do think what you need to do when you play teams like this is you have to emphasize the importance of being patient, and then you have to emphasize the importance of when we get our opportunity, we have to cash in on it.

So we have to be ready. We're gonna get one.

So we have to be ready. We're gonna get one.

Shot here to throw this one on one back shoulder fate like Aaron had today in practice.

Shot here to throw this one on one back shoulder fate like Aaron had today in practice.

We gotta make it. We got to make the throw.

We gotta make it. We got to make the throw.

We got to make the competitive, tough catch against Sauce Gardner. So that's really what you're preaching. They're gonna make you work for it, so let's work for it. We've got to make some short third downs. We're gonna be We're gonna be get ourselves into third manageable. We're gonna get some shots on early downs to make some plays down the field. We got to cash in on them because they're not gonna give us anything. And if you preach that to them and get them ready for that, hopefully they'll have the mindset and mentality go execute for sixty minutes because that's what they're gonna make you do.

We got to make the competitive, tough catch against Sauce Gardner. So that's really what you're preaching. They're gonna make you work for it, so let's work for it. We've got to make some short third downs. We're gonna be We're gonna be get ourselves into third manageable. We're gonna get some shots on early downs to make some plays down the field. We got to cash in on them because they're not gonna give us anything. And if you preach that to them and get them ready for that, hopefully they'll have the mindset and mentality go execute for sixty minutes because that's what they're gonna make you do.

How difficult is that in today's game for maybe a young quarterback when you say, okay, you are facing the Jets, but you can't force it because there's always a thought when I'm watching the Jets defenses that quarterbacks can get impatient. And when he gets impatient, that ain't gonna be in trouble.

How difficult is that in today's game for maybe a young quarterback when you say, okay, you are facing the Jets, but you can't force it because there's always a thought when I'm watching the Jets defenses that quarterbacks can get impatient. And when he gets impatient, that ain't gonna be in trouble.

Yeah, there's no doubt.

Yeah, there's no doubt.

And again we were talking earlier about Aaron with decision making. How does this play fit into the game. Right, there's a lot of plays in the game, typically eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve series in the game. Each play impacts the outcome of that series. So you have to stay locked in and you have to understand again when you have an opportunity, Hey, we're not backing off. We're gonna take advantag we're getting after these guys. But then when they take something away, find the back move on right. If you're the runner, put your foot in the ground and make two more yards going north and south. It's not a real sexy run, but that's going to get us to third manageable. Those kinds of things matter when you play against really good defenses.

And again we were talking earlier about Aaron with decision making. How does this play fit into the game. Right, there's a lot of plays in the game, typically eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve series in the game. Each play impacts the outcome of that series. So you have to stay locked in and you have to understand again when you have an opportunity, Hey, we're not backing off. We're gonna take advantag we're getting after these guys. But then when they take something away, find the back move on right. If you're the runner, put your foot in the ground and make two more yards going north and south. It's not a real sexy run, but that's going to get us to third manageable. Those kinds of things matter when you play against really good defenses.

As an analyst, are you looking forward to actually seeing what this Jets defense looks like if they do have a lead in the second half, because we haven't had an opportunity to see that too much. Now you insert Rogers into the equation, you have some of these young guns. Offensively, you would figure the Jets are gonna be scoring more points and maybe this defense is actually going to be operating with the lead in the second.

As an analyst, are you looking forward to actually seeing what this Jets defense looks like if they do have a lead in the second half, because we haven't had an opportunity to see that too much. Now you insert Rogers into the equation, you have some of these young guns. Offensively, you would figure the Jets are gonna be scoring more points and maybe this defense is actually going to be operating with the lead in the second.

Yeah, I think that's a great point.

Yeah, I think that's a great point.

And and and obviously you know when you are ahead and teams are more inclined to throw the ball to get back into the game. You know, you're allowing your defensive lineman to pin the ears back, You're allowing your your dbs. There's gonna be a lot of tips and overthrows because it's gonna be an uncomfortable environment for the quarterback to throw in, so you can start taking advantage of those situations and and play from ahead and force some turnovers and really and really get after them. And you know, it's hard to do that week in and week out in the NFL. But I do think the Jets have some capability on both sides of the battle. Let them play some of those games.

And and and obviously you know when you are ahead and teams are more inclined to throw the ball to get back into the game. You know, you're allowing your defensive lineman to pin the ears back, You're allowing your your dbs. There's gonna be a lot of tips and overthrows because it's gonna be an uncomfortable environment for the quarterback to throw in, so you can start taking advantage of those situations and and play from ahead and force some turnovers and really and really get after them. And you know, it's hard to do that week in and week out in the NFL. But I do think the Jets have some capability on both sides of the battle. Let them play some of those games.

You talk about every But just from a thirty thousand foot view right now here in August, what do you.

You talk about every But just from a thirty thousand foot view right now here in August, what do you.

Make of the AFS East?

Make of the AFS East?

Oh, I think it'll be interesting. I've been a Buffalo bill fan for a long time. I think they're a good team. I love their coach and what he's done there. All he's done is have success. Now, they haven't broken through gone to the next thing. I get that. I understand that. But it's hard to win the division. It's hard to win that first round of the playoffs, it's hard to get to that divisional It's hard to do these things, and they've done that on a pretty consistent basis. I love their quarterback. They're going through some changes as well, no more digs. They're gonna have some young weapons on the offensive side.

Oh, I think it'll be interesting. I've been a Buffalo bill fan for a long time. I think they're a good team. I love their coach and what he's done there. All he's done is have success. Now, they haven't broken through gone to the next thing. I get that. I understand that. But it's hard to win the division. It's hard to win that first round of the playoffs, it's hard to get to that divisional It's hard to do these things, and they've done that on a pretty consistent basis. I love their quarterback. They're going through some changes as well, no more digs. They're gonna have some young weapons on the offensive side.

Of the ball.

Of the ball.

So we're gonna have to find out about them. But I think they're a good team. New England's certainly in transition now Coach Belichick, the job he did there for so long no longer there. Finding out what their quarterback situation is going to be all about. I do think they'll still be solid on defense. They've put a lot of resources to that defense in recent years. But the question marks, you know, Gerrod Mayo getting his first opportunity, how they're going to be on offense, who they're going to play a quarterback. There's a lot of question marks there and it'll be fun to see that all how that all plays out. You know, Miami is interesting to me if you think about, you know, the kind of offense they had for a lot of last year. I mean it's one of the best offense of the league has seen in the last twenty years. They scored seventy points in a game. I mean it's hard to do that, and they have so much speed, they know how to use it, and they can be really dangerous. You know, you think about three like legit incredibly fast running backs, the wide receivers, the tight end. Everybody can run and Tua at the controls, you know, they can be really impressive. They have to prove that they can go win tough games. They have to be able to go on the road and win late in their division in bad weather, and and can they do that? Can they win different kinds of games when the speed element gets neutralized a little bit by a defense or by conditions. Can they put it into another gear and run the ball a little bit more and play a lowest scoring game and win. I think that's what championship teams do, so I think that's their next step.

So we're gonna have to find out about them. But I think they're a good team. New England's certainly in transition now Coach Belichick, the job he did there for so long no longer there. Finding out what their quarterback situation is going to be all about. I do think they'll still be solid on defense. They've put a lot of resources to that defense in recent years. But the question marks, you know, Gerrod Mayo getting his first opportunity, how they're going to be on offense, who they're going to play a quarterback. There's a lot of question marks there and it'll be fun to see that all how that all plays out. You know, Miami is interesting to me if you think about, you know, the kind of offense they had for a lot of last year. I mean it's one of the best offense of the league has seen in the last twenty years. They scored seventy points in a game. I mean it's hard to do that, and they have so much speed, they know how to use it, and they can be really dangerous. You know, you think about three like legit incredibly fast running backs, the wide receivers, the tight end. Everybody can run and Tua at the controls, you know, they can be really impressive. They have to prove that they can go win tough games. They have to be able to go on the road and win late in their division in bad weather, and and can they do that? Can they win different kinds of games when the speed element gets neutralized a little bit by a defense or by conditions. Can they put it into another gear and run the ball a little bit more and play a lowest scoring game and win. I think that's what championship teams do, so I think that's their next step.

How about the AFC overall, From a quarterback perspective, Mahomes is going first third consecutive championship.

How about the AFC overall, From a quarterback perspective, Mahomes is going first third consecutive championship.

Crazy to talk about.

Crazy to talk about.

You have Herbert, now pair them up with Harbaugh. Then you go to the AFC South. He got Anthony Richardson, You have C. J. Stroud who took the league by storm. You got Trevor Lawrence and come back mode. Then we go to the AFC North and you talk about Joe Burrow coming back. You got Lamar Jackson, a two time NFL MVP Pittsburgh. It looks like they're gonna be rolling with Russell Wilson will have to see actually how that unfolds Cleveland, Deshaun Watson, He's got a very talented roster around him.

You have Herbert, now pair them up with Harbaugh. Then you go to the AFC South. He got Anthony Richardson, You have C. J. Stroud who took the league by storm. You got Trevor Lawrence and come back mode. Then we go to the AFC North and you talk about Joe Burrow coming back. You got Lamar Jackson, a two time NFL MVP Pittsburgh. It looks like they're gonna be rolling with Russell Wilson will have to see actually how that unfolds Cleveland, Deshaun Watson, He's got a very talented roster around him.

You talked about Buffalo, how you're a.

You talked about Buffalo, how you're a.

Fan of Josh Allen of course, and Tua's got so many weapons there and Aaron Rodgers coming back healthy.

Fan of Josh Allen of course, and Tua's got so many weapons there and Aaron Rodgers coming back healthy.

What do you make all these quarterbacks.

What do you make all these quarterbacks.

There's a lot of really good quarterbacks in the AFC, there really are, and they're young guys coming into their prime. I mean, these guys have been good players throughout their career. But I talked about before with Brady. Brady plays till he's forty five and continues to get better and better and better. And a lot of these guys, you know, seems to me have that same kind of passion, that drive to be great, and I think they'll continue to improve.

There's a lot of really good quarterbacks in the AFC, there really are, and they're young guys coming into their prime. I mean, these guys have been good players throughout their career. But I talked about before with Brady. Brady plays till he's forty five and continues to get better and better and better. And a lot of these guys, you know, seems to me have that same kind of passion, that drive to be great, and I think they'll continue to improve.

You know.

You know.

Kansas City, for me, pretty remarkable. You know what they've done over the last four or five years with Mahomes as their quarterback and obviously Andy as their coach. They were so impressive last year because they kind of flopped around on offense for most of the year. They flopped around even till the end of the season. But I was able to do the first playoff game against Miami, the really cold game in Kansas City nine, fourth coldest game in the history of the NFL. And I watched practice the day before and I just kind of said to myself, they're gonna hand the ball to Pacheco, They're gonna throw the ball to Rashi Rice and Travis Kelcey and everybody else is going to be kind of secondary. And it was freezing, it was minus nine. It was I thought my ears were gonna fall off. And Mahomes went out there like it was a spring day and they were chunking it down the field right from the start, and they played in such a decisive way. It's almost like you saw that they got together and said, who are the guys we can count on, who are the guys on offense? We want to get the ball in their hands on a consistent basis and make their these guys are primary focus. And that's what they did. They handed a Pacheck Woh, they were physical in the run game. They threw it to Kelsey, they threw it to Rashi Rice, and and and that, and then when the other guys got their opportunities, they cashed in on them. And they played so decisively after being so inconsistent throughout the year. When it came to nut cutting time, it's like, here we go. And they did that all the way through the playoffs and all the way through the Super Bowl. So you know, for me, it was Andy Reid's best coaching job, and he's had a lot of good ones. I thought it was so impressive to be able to play at that level in the critical moments.

Kansas City, for me, pretty remarkable. You know what they've done over the last four or five years with Mahomes as their quarterback and obviously Andy as their coach. They were so impressive last year because they kind of flopped around on offense for most of the year. They flopped around even till the end of the season. But I was able to do the first playoff game against Miami, the really cold game in Kansas City nine, fourth coldest game in the history of the NFL. And I watched practice the day before and I just kind of said to myself, they're gonna hand the ball to Pacheco, They're gonna throw the ball to Rashi Rice and Travis Kelcey and everybody else is going to be kind of secondary. And it was freezing, it was minus nine. It was I thought my ears were gonna fall off. And Mahomes went out there like it was a spring day and they were chunking it down the field right from the start, and they played in such a decisive way. It's almost like you saw that they got together and said, who are the guys we can count on, who are the guys on offense? We want to get the ball in their hands on a consistent basis and make their these guys are primary focus. And that's what they did. They handed a Pacheck Woh, they were physical in the run game. They threw it to Kelsey, they threw it to Rashi Rice, and and and that, and then when the other guys got their opportunities, they cashed in on them. And they played so decisively after being so inconsistent throughout the year. When it came to nut cutting time, it's like, here we go. And they did that all the way through the playoffs and all the way through the Super Bowl. So you know, for me, it was Andy Reid's best coaching job, and he's had a lot of good ones. I thought it was so impressive to be able to play at that level in the critical moments.

Of the year like they did.

Of the year like they did.

So it starts with them, right, because of the coach, because of the quarterback, because of the young defense, and then everything else you got. You got to prove it to me that you can knock the big boys off, and we'll see if that can happen.

So it starts with them, right, because of the coach, because of the quarterback, because of the young defense, and then everything else you got. You got to prove it to me that you can knock the big boys off, and we'll see if that can happen.

Let's come full circle.

Let's come full circle.

You said, when you grew up in Jersey, you had a Joe Namath poster on your wall.

You said, when you grew up in Jersey, you had a Joe Namath poster on your wall.

I did. I did.

I did. I did.

It's it's from a matter of style. Do you know you remember his book? Yes, and it's an amazing book. And it was this thing that you pulled out and this great throwing sequence, and I was like, huh, your name. It was incredible, and you know he could throw it as well anybody in the history of football. But it's interesting. I told my mom this morning that I was coming up. My mom's eighty eight. My dad was a coach and a scout forever, and so she's grown up with football. And I told her I was coming up here and I was going to interview Aaron Rodgers and talk about this project about how the game has evolved and how Joe Namath threw it fifty years ago and now how Aaron Rodgers throws it. And my mom kind of cut me off. She said, Jason, the.

It's it's from a matter of style. Do you know you remember his book? Yes, and it's an amazing book. And it was this thing that you pulled out and this great throwing sequence, and I was like, huh, your name. It was incredible, and you know he could throw it as well anybody in the history of football. But it's interesting. I told my mom this morning that I was coming up. My mom's eighty eight. My dad was a coach and a scout forever, and so she's grown up with football. And I told her I was coming up here and I was going to interview Aaron Rodgers and talk about this project about how the game has evolved and how Joe Namath threw it fifty years ago and now how Aaron Rodgers throws it. And my mom kind of cut me off. She said, Jason, the.

Game has changed. It's different. It was much slower back then.

Game has changed. It's different. It was much slower back then.

Now it's wide open and fast, and these athletes are incredible, And I'm like, you might be right. So maybe a lot of the evolution of the throwing is a result of the evolution of the game. They weren't bubble screens back then. No, right, it was dropped back.

Now it's wide open and fast, and these athletes are incredible, And I'm like, you might be right. So maybe a lot of the evolution of the throwing is a result of the evolution of the game. They weren't bubble screens back then. No, right, it was dropped back.

He was throwing the ball down a checking it down the field.

He was throwing the ball down a checking it down the field.

We found a clip of Nameath on NFL films taking an eleven step drop. Really, he was fifteen yards behind the line of scrimmage and rifling it down the field.

We found a clip of Nameath on NFL films taking an eleven step drop. Really, he was fifteen yards behind the line of scrimmage and rifling it down the field.

That's funny because everybody looks it nameless numbers now and looks at completion percentage or touchdowns. Oh, they just a different just a completely different game.

That's funny because everybody looks it nameless numbers now and looks at completion percentage or touchdowns. Oh, they just a different just a completely different game.

You gotta throw that stuff.

You gotta throw that stuff.

Out, completely different game. I mean, all all the passer ratings for those guys playing thirty forty fifty years ago, they're so low relatively speaking, because the game was throw the ball down the field. They didn't complete as high a percentage of passes. They threw more interceptions. It just was what the game was all about back then. But I thought it was interesting that my mom made that observation.

Out, completely different game. I mean, all all the passer ratings for those guys playing thirty forty fifty years ago, they're so low relatively speaking, because the game was throw the ball down the field. They didn't complete as high a percentage of passes. They threw more interceptions. It just was what the game was all about back then. But I thought it was interesting that my mom made that observation.

I think that's very cool at eighty eight years old, that you know so succinct.

I think that's very cool at eighty eight years old, that you know so succinct.

So Rogers with this organization specifically just haven't made the playoffs since twenty ten and won the Super Bowl since January nineteen sixty nine.

So Rogers with this organization specifically just haven't made the playoffs since twenty ten and won the Super Bowl since January nineteen sixty nine.

How much do you.

How much do you.

Think that he embraces the role of I got an opportunity here. I'm already cemented in history, but opportunity here to do something that just hasn't been done before.

Think that he embraces the role of I got an opportunity here. I'm already cemented in history, but opportunity here to do something that just hasn't been done before.

Yeah, you know, I think those are all motivating factors for guys, and I think it's important to visualize those goals, have that vision for yourself, and cement that vision in your mind. But then I think it's important to put that in the recesses of your mind.

Yeah, you know, I think those are all motivating factors for guys, and I think it's important to visualize those goals, have that vision for yourself, and cement that vision in your mind. But then I think it's important to put that in the recesses of your mind.

And get to work today. What do we got to do today?

And get to work today. What do we got to do today?

What have we got to do to make Tuesday, August thirteenth the best practice we've ever had, And then we watch it afterwards, We come back tomorrow and make Wednesday better and go down to Carolina this weekend and have great practices with them and then go play well in the preseason. So for me, it's all about a day by day process. It's a play by play process, and I think that's what the best ones are able to do. They keep their focus narrow, and I think that's a big challenge for the Jets this year. There can be a lot of noise around this franchise, and I think it's important for them to block it out embrace what they have. They got a lot of really good players on this team. It's a well coached team. They practice the right way, they go about things the right way. Stay focused on that stuff, and then and then go play on Sundays and have fun playing ball and embrace those opportunities and we'll count them up at the end. But you know, if you get yourself too enamored with oh I'm gonna I'm gonna change history, or oh I'm gonna prove them wrong. You probably won't play your best ball.

What have we got to do to make Tuesday, August thirteenth the best practice we've ever had, And then we watch it afterwards, We come back tomorrow and make Wednesday better and go down to Carolina this weekend and have great practices with them and then go play well in the preseason. So for me, it's all about a day by day process. It's a play by play process, and I think that's what the best ones are able to do. They keep their focus narrow, and I think that's a big challenge for the Jets this year. There can be a lot of noise around this franchise, and I think it's important for them to block it out embrace what they have. They got a lot of really good players on this team. It's a well coached team. They practice the right way, they go about things the right way. Stay focused on that stuff, and then and then go play on Sundays and have fun playing ball and embrace those opportunities and we'll count them up at the end. But you know, if you get yourself too enamored with oh I'm gonna I'm gonna change history, or oh I'm gonna prove them wrong. You probably won't play your best ball.

But the thing that he always talks about is being intentional with everything at.

But the thing that he always talks about is being intentional with everything at.

Practice, and you've talked to him so many times.

Practice, and you've talked to him so many times.

Over the years that that's one thing that always stands out is that he lives in that.

Over the years that that's one thing that always stands out is that he lives in that.

Moment right here, right now. The best ones are able to do that.

Moment right here, right now. The best ones are able to do that.

Well, we are going to be watching your special on NFL Films. We'll be watching Sunday Night Football as well, and the Jets are going to be on there a few times here this season, and also Notre Dame as well, fighting Saturday afternoons. Jason, thank you so much. Great to have a New Jersey native here in the studio.

Well, we are going to be watching your special on NFL Films. We'll be watching Sunday Night Football as well, and the Jets are going to be on there a few times here this season, and also Notre Dame as well, fighting Saturday afternoons. Jason, thank you so much. Great to have a New Jersey native here in the studio.

Yeah, it's great to be with you do a great job.

Yeah, it's great to be with you do a great job.

Thanks, thank you.

Thanks, thank you.

M hmm.

M hmm.