There's a belief New Zealand's entering the early stages of an export-led recovery.  

Stats NZ data reveals it's at $1.4 billion in April, compared with a $12 million deficit last year. 

The dairy sector's been the big winner, up $601 million to $2.2 billion.  

Former Finance Minister Steven Joyce told Mike Hosking it's promising on the back of a tough three years in the sector.  

He says domestically people aren't spending a lot, so imports aren't coming in, but fortunately the world is buying more from us which is a great point in the cycle.  

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There's a belief New Zealand's entering the early stages of an export-led recovery. &nbsp;
Stats NZ data reveals it's at $1.4 billion in April, compared with a $12 million deficit last year.&nbsp;
The dairy sector's been the big winner, up $601 million to $2.2 billion. &nbsp;
Former Finance Minister Steven Joyce told Mike Hosking it's promising on the back of a tough three years in the sector. &nbsp;
He says domestically people aren't spending a lot, so imports aren't coming in, but fortunately the world is buying more from us which is a great point in the cycle. &nbsp;
LISTEN ABOVE&nbsp;

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Steven Joyce: Former Finance Minister says New Zealand's in the early stages of an export-led recovery

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I don’t blame Hipkins for having a crack, but tell him he's dreaming. 

Having closed, or at least announced they are closing off, the absurd deals between local councils and Māori, once they get the new RMA laws up Hipkins suggests that this will lead to a lot of renegotiation of Treaty settlements. 

It will do no such thing. 

You know why? Because it might just be that this Government has had enough of court interference of Māori issues, and the Mike Smith mess might just have been the final straw. 

I would like to think the interventionist nonsense from the Waitangi Tribunal was the final straw. But the Government seem happy enough to continue to foot that bill, while ignoring pretty much everything they say. 

The really important bit of the Hipkins intervention is that he has not explicitly said they will reinstate said council deals. 

Why would he not have said that? 

Could it possibly be because he too realises that the whole Māorification of this country has gotten wildly out of control, and not even he can bring himself to buy the inevitable fight that would be required in an election campaign if it was him vs Luxon, and one had killed said deals and one was left to defend the indefensible. 

The headache Hipkins doesn’t need of course, is they aren't his deals. It's the councils that should be called out and held to account. It’s the councils who are taking the proverbial. 

That is not to say the Māori caucus won't get to Hipkins. But for now, at least, he takes what most middle-of-the-road New Zealanders would perceive as a moderate, sensible stance. 

And it's exactly those sorts of stances that win elections. Elections are won in the centre and the Māorification of the country is nowhere near the centre, a place the Labour Party once stood fairly solidly and fairly successfully. 

Yes, the original Treaty deals have clauses for renegotiation, but they are more about income than local-level dabbling. 

If any council or iwi want to dabble in a court the court should be ignored. 

You get the sense that like a lot of ideas not well thought through, any original goodwill was well and truly shot to bits as councils and local Māori, to put it bluntly, took the piss. 

Well that game, thank goodness, is up.     

I don’t blame Hipkins for having a crack, but tell him he's dreaming.&nbsp;
Having closed, or at least announced they are closing off, the absurd deals between local councils and Māori, once they get the new RMA laws up Hipkins suggests that this will lead to a lot of renegotiation of Treaty settlements.&nbsp;
It will do no such thing.&nbsp;
You know why? Because it might just be that this Government has had enough of court interference of Māori issues, and the Mike Smith mess might just have been the final straw.&nbsp;
I would like to think the interventionist nonsense from the Waitangi Tribunal was the final straw. But the Government seem happy enough to continue to foot that bill, while ignoring pretty much everything they say.&nbsp;
The really important bit of the Hipkins intervention is that he has not explicitly said they will reinstate said council deals.&nbsp;
Why would he not have said that?&nbsp;
Could it possibly be because he too realises that the whole Māorification of this country has gotten wildly out of control, and not even he can bring himself to buy the inevitable fight that would be required in an election campaign if it was him vs Luxon, and one had killed said deals and one was left to defend the indefensible.&nbsp;
The headache Hipkins doesn’t need of course, is they aren't his deals. It's the councils that should be called out and held to account. It’s the councils who are taking the proverbial.&nbsp;
That is not to say the Māori caucus won't get to Hipkins. But for now, at least, he takes what most middle-of-the-road New Zealanders would perceive as a moderate, sensible stance.&nbsp;
And it's exactly those sorts of stances that win elections. Elections are won in the centre and the Māorification of the country is nowhere near the centre, a place the Labour Party once stood fairly solidly and fairly successfully.&nbsp;
Yes, the original Treaty deals have clauses for renegotiation, but they are more about income than local-level dabbling.&nbsp;
If any council or iwi want to dabble in a court the court should be ignored.&nbsp;
You get the sense that like a lot of ideas not well thought through, any original goodwill was well and truly shot to bits as councils and local Māori, to put it bluntly, took the piss.&nbsp;
Well that game, thank goodness, is up. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;

Mike's Minute: I don't blame Hipkins for having a crack, but tell him he's dreaming

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Labour says the Government's scrapping of iwi-council partnerships will likely cause more friction.   

The newest Resource Management Act reforms aim to throw out any existing deals between councils and iwi, and prevent more from being signed.  

The Government argues these agreements have become out-of-scope – giving unelected officials a position at the decision-making table.  

Labour MP Ginny Andersen told Mike Hosking that wasn't the case, and they encouraged on-the-ground collaboration.  

She says the Government's change will lead to more division and litigation from iwi, calling it a waste of time and money. 

National’s Mark Mitchell says the replacement bills originally would’ve allowed existing agreements to carry over while stopping new ones, but since the bills were introduced, they became aware of a rapid increase in new agreements between councils and iwi. 

He told Hosking this is about stopping scope creep and restoring trust in local government.  

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Labour says the Government's scrapping of iwi-council partnerships will likely cause more friction. &nbsp;&nbsp;
The newest Resource Management Act reforms aim to throw out any existing deals between councils and iwi, and prevent more from being signed. &nbsp;
The Government argues these agreements have become out-of-scope – giving unelected officials a position at the decision-making table. &nbsp;
Labour MP Ginny Andersen told Mike Hosking that wasn't the case, and they encouraged on-the-ground collaboration. &nbsp;
She says the Government's change will lead to more division and litigation from iwi, calling it a waste of time and money.&nbsp;
National’s Mark Mitchell says the replacement bills originally would’ve allowed existing agreements to carry over while stopping new ones, but since the bills were introduced, they became aware of a rapid increase in new agreements between councils and iwi.&nbsp;
He told Hosking this is about stopping scope creep and restoring trust in local government. &nbsp;
LISTEN ABOVE&nbsp;

Pollies: National's Mark Mitchell and Labour's Ginny Andersen talk the Golden Bay Cement bailout, RMA reforms, Question Time

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On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Wednesday 22nd of July, Finance Minister Nicola Willis discusses inflation and the bailout for Golden Bay Cement. 

TVNZ CEO Jodi O'Donnell speaks on their FIFA World Cup streaming numbers and what’s to come in the future, and comments on the decision to put a 16 minute World Cup package at the top of the 6pm news over Ryan Fox's major win. 

Mark Mitchell and Ginny Andersen talk Golden Bay cement, the return of Question Time, and the deals being done between councils and local iwi on Politics Wednesday. 

Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. 

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On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Wednesday 22nd of July, <a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/nicola-willis-finance-minister-on-annual-inflation-hitting-41-driven-by-a-surge-in-fuel-prices-and-rise-in-electricity-bills/">Finance Minister Nicola Willis</a> discusses inflation and the bailout for Golden Bay Cement.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/jodi-odonnell-tvnz-ceo-on-the-success-of-their-2026-fifa-world-cup-coverage-securing-the-2030-broadcast-and-streaming-rights/">TVNZ CEO Jodi O'Donnell</a> speaks on their FIFA World Cup streaming numbers and what’s to come in the future, and comments on the decision to put a 16 minute World Cup package at the top of the 6pm news over Ryan Fox's major win.&nbsp;
Mark Mitchell and Ginny Andersen talk Golden Bay cement, the return of Question Time, and the deals being done between councils and local iwi on Politics Wednesday.&nbsp;
Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.&nbsp;
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Full Show Podcast: 22 July 2026 

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Steven Joyce: Former Finance Minister says New Zealand's in the early stages of an export-led recovery

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