Ring ring ring ring. May I please speak with Zoe? Oh hello, Lamorne, let's patch in, Hannah. God, I forgot what it was like working with you guys. Hello, friends, Welcome to our show. It's the New Girl Rewatch podcast. I'm Zoe and I'm here with La mourne Um. Hannah's taking the day off today. Our guest is Justin Long. You know him from cult classics like Jeepers, Creepers, Drag Me to Hell, Dodgeball, and Galaxy Quest. And he's Alvin and the Alvin and the Chipmunk series. But mainly you love him most as Paul Genslinger on New Girl. Please welcome the talented writer, director, producer, and actor Justin Long to our show. Welcome Austin. Yes, what's that dude? Yes? Zoe? What are you eating? I'm sorry? I was I like took some pretzels. Are you having grown a lot lentils? You see that? Like it? Like? That was obviously no lentils. It's obviously it's snack time. I'm having lentils. You dum dummy. You don't have pretzels during lentil time, weirdos. But two o'clock we have lentils. Now what is this bracket set up you got there justin That's a pretty cool set up. Oh, thanks, it's um. The company I do my podcast with, Life is Short is Wondering. They give you, They give you your own booth. No, I'm then, Uh. I usually do it out of my home, which is where we did ours Lamorn friend of the show, Lettre and Morris and thanks. I thought I was a friend as well. You your episode doesn't come out yet, it doesn't count yet future friend, Um, your friend of mine, not yet of the show. Where I'm at at the Wondering studio. So I've been shooting this thing in Utah. Um, and I just came back to l A to do this, and they gave you they you're at their office. Is where you have your own boots? Yes, you're hung up on this on the poster. I this actually could be anywhere. I suppose you're right. Um, I'm am in l A. I'm not hung up on the poster. I'm hung up on the fact that they didn't my heart didn't give us one. They didn't give us a poster. We need a boaster. I think he's in there, so I think we could record at that. I heard studios if we wanted. Yeah, Daniel says yes, yes, our engineer says yes, we could record there anytime. We just don't want to drive there. And we have nice microphones here, so yeah, you can comfort you. I would love to, but I sit do my podcast in this raggedy ass else that I have. It's falling apart on me. Okay, Um, I know for a fact you have a beautiful home. Some might call a mansion, raged as mansion, raggedy ass mansion. It's like a haunted mansion. Okay, this place, haunted mansion, built in that, haunted by the ghosts of the men who made it. Oh my goodness, gracious, justin you look good man. Oh thanks. You said that like you're surprised. Well, yeah, because usually you look you know, like, well, no, much like my mansion. Yeah, wouldn't. Usually you're just like chilling, dude. You usually have a surf room. I'm not. You're all professional and stuff. Well, I worried. I thought I'd dress up for you guys, because out of respect. That's awesome, man. I'm excited to be on the show. I'm excited to talk to all of you where I don't see Hannah gosh, Hannah. No, No, she she she's just take. I think she's with her kids. Maybe. Yeah, she did want me to pass along a message to you. What is it? She said, Please don't let this be any type of um negative space between the two of you. But she and her words were and I didn't make I could, I wouldn't say this Justin. But her words were, I don't work with him. That's what she said. Oh, like like like because I'm so hostile, Like, I don't. I don't want to anger him. You're such an angry guy. You're an angry guy. I don't. I don't. I'm now beginning to suspect that maybe had a different experience of you Justin than I did. Yeah, I hope so because you you have. I mean I I worked with you on and I never had that experience. But I wonder what I did to her. No, no, I think she was gonna be on. But then she was like, is it too many people to interview Justin? And then we were kind of all talking about when this is probably stuff to cut, but we're just like, oh, I worked with you the most probably and then a little more. And Hannah didn't work with you as much. So I'm hoping to have episodes off when she interviews like, oh, sometimes we'll interview the people we worked with the most. Oh that makes sense, so I shouldn't. I won't take it personally. Don't take it personally other than she doesn't work with you. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty personal. Okay, yeah, of course, man, thanks for doing that, Zoe. Do you want we want to dive right in this and maybe get this intro out later or you want to oh yeah, oh um, Hi, guys, welcome to Welcome to our show. And you know what, I will say this because because a couple of people were asking why we call it welcome to our show. Well, I'll tell you it's because every time someone came to our loft department, I'd say welcome to our home. And now we're saying welcome to our show. It's a stretch, but we'll take it right. And if you start each show by saying that, welcome to our show. So it's one of the names we could clear with legal. Also, we had we had a lot we went what were some of the finalists? Uh, we had justin Long Gas podcasta like that one. Don't go justin long I think sorry, I believe we can't say the word sorry. You know, I don't know if we can, but I don't say it very much myself, so they don't know that that's not that's against my image. So I've just been quoting Hannah. Okay, okay, that was quote. That was a direct quote, and we don't I've just been quoting Hannah. I was just quoting Lamour and quoting Hannah. So right, um, I think we had what do we have? We had a loft talk or apartment four D year no apartment for D is like, yeah, it's an already established podcast. Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? What's that podcast? Now? Who's that? Girls? What was the one I loved? And they were like that's not going to happen? Do you remember which one that was? Joel? Um? They were like, well true Americans was one. They thought that sounded like too much like military. Yeah, reminiscing about our times in the military. Um. Uh So that didn't Yeah, yeah, that didn't work. What justin to come up? Because you're well it's hard to well, no, thanks, Lamar, it is, but it's I feel you. It's hard to name things. And we had a hard time you know, of course we like I like stupid puns and so life is short with justin long is what we settled on. But we had a lot of um, there were a lot of long puns that we played with, which sounds very arrogant, but it's just me doing it. I mean, I mean for you guys, it's like, I guess you have to have to do something New Girl related and that's I'm struggling to come up with one. Just show your show is is very very much so Jeepers Creepers themed, that is true Creepers watch. We've been dissecting it for two and a half years. It's it is a deep it's deep, so you we need more time to unpack it. Um cheaper s Creepers is It's crazy, Lamarin that it comes up all at the time zone and I we're just talking about things that people will come up to you about and um, and and that is one that just for for this low budget horror movie, it truly comes up all the time. It's been twenties something years. I know of two low budget horror movies that you've done that will never leave my brain, never, never leave my mind. Deeper is one of them. It's it's the first time I was introduced to you as an actor, and I thought, my goodness, this guy at the time, this kid is incredible. And the second time was Tusk and I if you guys haven't seen Tusk, don't it is terrifying. Great plug, what a great plug. Yes, do not see it if you haven't. If you have seen it, don't see it again. Um yeah, that's when you thought. The first one, you thought, who is this kid? The second one you thought, what has this kid done to his career? Man, It's one of the dopest, most insane movies I've ever seen. And I saw it in the theaters and I said, think I sent you a photo of me watching it, going what, yes, you're yeah. Well, well my mom, you know, she I told her not to see it. My grandma was alive at the time, and she she was well into her nineties and they went together, so like she must have been the oldest person who have seen that movie. But for for the few of you who don't know, it is a movie about um, a psychotic older man who turns I play a podcaster. Actually I played like an obnoxious podcasters, such a stretch and um he turns me into a Walrus. Basically, he's fast. He was like fast. This obsession with Walrus is and it was based on this actual thing that happened. Um. A guy in England took out a Craigslist type ad for a roommate. He said the deal was free room and board, um and and the only stipulation was that the person would have to dress like a walrus for like three or four hours during the day. Sounds like a New Girl episode, to be honest, he does. It's very quirky, but it but it um it turned out and he did it as a as a joke, but he got like over four responses people wanting to do that thinking it was a good deal. And um, Kevin Smith heard about this. They talked about it on his podcast and uh, he was so taken by the story that he turned it into this kind of like hammer horror human body mutilation story and play the man. Well, Mike, this great actor, Michael Parks, who has had passed away unfortunately, but he had a real like cult following and one of his like Tarantino, loved him and put him in a bunch of movies and Robbed Rodriguez and these like all tour guys. Um would would cast him a lot, and Johnny Depp was a big fan, and so Johnny played a That's why he played the detective in that movie. So he did it kind of in this Really, I haven't seen this movie. I'm not a big horror movie person, but you sound so interesting. Is it too much for me? Probably begging you, yeah, you do not of all people, we should be talking about this on a New Girl body. We want to get to know you. We want to get to know so, so welcome to Welcome to our show. I already said that we have the incomparable crazy Town Justin Long here today on now a k A. Paul Genslinger. Yes, um, so uh. It was really cool because you came on our show first season and the Thanksgiving episode was your first, your first episode, and they were like, what do you think of Justin Long playing like your love and just I was like, oh my god, that's amazing because I knew you were so talented. But what was cool about working with you was I saw how much work you put into everything behind the scenes. You you write a lot of you write a lot of jokes, like on your own like a lot of all lines, and you're always like your mind is always going, You're always like trying to come up with like the best version of the scene. And the other thing that was really like cool to see about you was that you have an amazing um kind of sense of physical comedy that was like reminded me of of like a John Ritter. And there was this stuff that got cut from that episode, but you did a full on acrobatic tumble over over a couch, yes, and we were I was like, oh my god, this is incredible. This guy is like so funny. Remember when they cut it. I was so mad. I remember somebody gasping when I did that, thinking that I had uh and and and the truth people thought, you really hurt yourself. I do remember, and I have, actually I have hurt myself in the back. I have a thing in my elbow. Um, I have a little bone chip that I can still feel, and every once in a while I hit it the wrong way. And it's from something that something I should stop doing this. This should be a lesson. It's something else that got cut from a movie that wasn't very good that I really and the truth is I'm not trained as a stunt person, but I love doing that kind of stuffs up your elbow. Clearly you're not trained. No, exactly exactly what I say. I worked with Jim Carreen. He did that stuff where he'd just be like, I'm doing this and like he's like like I remember him going like okay, when you hear me say this line, move okay, and I'm like, like he didn't. He just whispered it to me. He didn't tell anybody else. He's like just he's well he It was like I was behind this bar and he was like, just um, move like move to the right, to your right and move the glass. And I was like okay, and I did, and he like full on did a similar thing to you where he leapt over a bar uh and did like a full front flip and surprised everybody because nobody knew he was doing it except I had an inkland because he kind of warned me, but I didn't know what he was going to do. Oh my god, was that yes man, yes man, yes man? Yes um yas now persons. Well, that's so. John Ridder was my favorite. I mean, I've watched I love Three's Company. I loved him so much. And Jason Ritter's a friend of mine and I mean too, I grew up with him, right right, So the craziest thing is that John Ritter would come and be a room parent in our kindergarten class. Yes, And I remember this because for some reason, my parents let me watch threes Company. I was like three years old, like, I don't know why, but it was I mean, look, I'm glad I did, but it was not necessarily like for the little probably missed some of the nuances, some of the especially with the I just thought it was funny, you know. It was like he was funny. He would like you had John Ritter come to your class as Yes, I had Rollo. I had Rollo, a street singing clown that he is a clown who lived on the street and he would show up at our school and lunch breaks and sing to us. And I think he sounds cool, but he was a tricky guy. So so John Ridder would come in and like volunteer as a parent, like, and he would be sitting I remember because he was like a tall guy. And Jason was in my class and he I remember sitting at a little tiny table and little tiny chairs with the construction paper and little baby scissors. And I walked in and I sat down and John Ridder sat next to me, and I was I knew Three Company was in syndication, and so it was on after school like it was like, you know, it was like on at three pm or and I remember being like, what is happening? Like my mind as well, because I still didn't understand like that people like, you know, I was like, did he come out of the tavy? Like what happened? You know? And am I on the show? Now? He was so nice and I didn't know what Yeah, I know, I was like I didn't know what to say. I didn't know what to say. I was just like, huh, like it was very and he was so nice and he was like sitting on this tiny little chair at this time cutting out construction paper with us in garden. Cute, Yes it is. And I'm and I'm imagining his perspective of like little Zoey like being like awestruck with the big eyes looking up. It must have been so so I've heard he was just the sweetest. It makes sense because Jason is just yeah and also so talented. Yeah, so good you guys did you live? No, we did, Mom, for my first movie with Larry Casson. Yeah, um so yeah, Jason, Jason is fantastic. Justin your career has brought you to the highest of heights. You've been all over the world, You've seen a lot of things. Yeah, it brings you all the way here. It's a new girl, right, so here you are. You're on our show. You know, people usually have the traditional um audition process for a show. They go audition, they go get on the show. But what was yours? Like, how did you get on this show? Let's just let's start there. How did it even happen? Well, you know this little more because I know it. I don't know either. I gave him a shot. You it was a forecasting couch situation. You were you claimed to be the casting director. Um, I gotta call it was this is boring, But I I got a call from my manager saying there was this new show and it was just I just knew that Zoe was on it, and I've always been such a fan of hers, and um, I thought she was so talented and sweet and I just wanted to work with her. It was as simple as that. So all I knew about it was it was playing Zoe's love interest. And I was like, yes, man, like the movie. Yes, yes, ma'am. I will say this on the show. You guys have a very interesting romance. So love this couple. This couple is I mean in a way like gener was like the most just like you know, the most, like the exactly like the you know, just as exact like counterpart. Yeah, it was sort of pitched to me that way. I guess, um, yeah, that it should be. And and and Zoe I we're just talking about on my podcast, The wood Quirky Um following us both around. Yeah, yeah, And you know what I think it is, it's like unexpected stuff. And that's what makes me laugh a lot, like when you when you walked in at the beginning of the part of this recording session and and I'm like eating pretzels and then I'm like, what what are you He's like eating pretzels okay, and I'm like what are you eating? I was like granola and he's like, no, lintels. Like that's where those things make me laugh. That's what makes me laugh. And I think that like that's kind of like I'm not it's not on purpose, but it's like I think the things that come out of your mouth are unexpected and probably similarly, yes, don't make a thing out of at moving. I saw you, I saw your face. He was ready to excited. Like. I love that. I love the way your show explored those moments and allowed those moments to breathe and a lot of the awkwardness was was created just from the silences and from the moments in between, and that I always felt like, that's kind of that's definitely rare now. I mean, I feel like shows used to indulge in those moments a little bit more often and more consistently. But I remember one of my favorite scenes was just um riding in a car with Jake and uh, and I would just point out kind of mundane things on the roads like um, you know, and like, oh that I think that's where my get my copies made. Jake, of course, is so over it. But I loved Zoe used this great word um when when we just talked guileless, that that Paul that Genslingers has guileless his chest that he had there's an innocence that is really I loved playing like I really loved um because I kind of aspired to be that present and positive and and and and take people uh in that kind of way, like treat people with that kind of positivity and and so anything any cynicism that that Jake's character had, or any of any of you guys on the show had, I would just completely I just wouldn't wouldn't absorb it at all. Like he's such a in innocent that it just didn't affect him. I don't think he's dumb. I think he heard. He also doesn't know why people don't like him, which is like so sweet too, like he's like it's I know, it's yeah, and and they should like him because he's well I can also see why well. I also like the dynamic of the odd coupling of somebody like Jake who would get like annoyed by him, I mean, who's more cynical, Like, oh really, that's the way you get your copies made? Oh no, no, I'm sorry, it's that place, you know. I loved that. So that was such a funny scene. So a favorite memory of mine working with you was that we had that crazy hilarious like the on the page, It was hilarious. The love scene, um where we're like supposed to be like We're like trying to role play and it's kind of coming out in an awkward way. And I remember we were rehearsing and running lines and we just both started doing really weird voices just like out like just trying them, like just because we were like just running lines and it was just weird. Like it was late at night, and we're like, why don't want to try this one? And then we were doing We ended up doing the weirdest voices, and I remember you were doing a Jimmy sar Um voice, and then I was doing the West voice, and then I did this other like really weird voice, and then you laughed and I was like, I'm gonna try because just long laughed at it. And then and then they were the weirdest. It was the weirdest choices, but people ended up really liking them, and I was like, I was very bolstered by the fact that you were like playing along so well with all that like just weird, Like the experimentation of finding those voices like in that scene is really fun. Yeah, so, Joe, I remember that voice made me laugh so hard that you did. It's like indelible, I can kind of do. Yeah, it was want to hear I re enactment of that scene. I start from the beginning. Well, I've been I mean, Jimmy Stewart had been like working out. I think I want to get a little more comfortable. Yes, oh, but but what you did with that was affection mild. It was it was Harry Carey kind of. It was very much so Harry. I don't even know who Harry carry is, so that is so no no idea who he is. It sounds was trying to do an old lady. But that's all by Ald. Yeah. It was like what happens if you put the voice in your nose and then stick it so far up your nose that you can barely breathe yea, because you know when you're doing something that like is so ridiculous that and this is an exact This was definitely a case in point. You have to, like, you have to commit, or your screwed if you don't. If you don't commit commitments, so we were, if you don't fully commit, yes, so I'm in that. But then if you go too far, if something like if something brings you out of it, um you you immediately realize how absurd the thing is and I think that's what that's what happened when you did that young, because it was like, it's just too much um. And I hate I hate when when when something is funny, which that scene was. It was written really funny. You were being so funny when I'm doing something like that, I feel so lucky that I I hate. I like really don't like breaking. I don't like ruining. Did you especially on a TV show? I don't remember that because you were so funny. It was so fun that was like it's on the outtakes. I I broke when you said it's so funny because I just remember doing that. But I remember it was like a conspiracy, Like it was conspiratorial between us that we had like almost made a pack to make the the weirdest version of that scene. And and it was really nice because you weren't like that was a little you know, maybe don't do that boys, or that was a little too far. It was just nice to have a scene partner who was like fully on board with the weirdest choice. Likewise, God, yeah, well that's what's fun about this again, Like if you don't that's what it's that's the fun I mean. And that was so fun in a scene like that. You know you obviously you're a funny guy and you're bringing your own i mean, both of you together. That scene was one of the funniest things that I've seen on the show. But in real life, Justin on the romantic side, would you stop school? Would you stop? What are you doing? You're going on? No? No, I'm sorry? What I just you know, if you know, are you an old school romantic kind of guy where you might play some Joe to see, you know, do a deep voice? Is tell her sweet things? Is this to Justin Long or are you want to you want to do it? Yeah? Yeah, man, yeah, I kind of do this and I do a whole I'll do the damn justice Justin. That's hot in the morning. Like, let's pretend what Justin stop? So you mentioned mcaulay Culkin. Remember running into him at Don Hills? Do you remember Don Hills on Spring and Greenwich. It was this great in New York great bar where um I was introduced to like a lot of uh you know, great like Pulp and uh you know, like James all these like britpop bands. Yeah, and it was just so funny, like just dancing and cheap beer and and why you students? And but I remember seeing mccullay culk in there and I was introduced to him and and he was and he was in character for a party monster. Oh really, and he was playing Michael I think his name was Michael. Like he was very kind of flamboyant and he was being that. And I never understand that the being like, look, I have all respect for all processes, but what an arduous who. It just seems like so much and in a way like like like you're like, oh, it's kind of collaborative and it kind of can can like interfere with other people's processes sometimes. So I don't know, I'm like whatever, like I've thought about it. I'm like, pass on that for me. I mean I almost think that's the only way I'll get respected as an actor is if I actually committed to the process, to the process without taking it home. I mean, like even Merrit doesn't like go home and you know talking, you know, like her character. Well that was the odd things they weren't even shooting. I mean it was like he was just out. He was he was just and yeah, he was said an audition. But so my impression of him was that I had a years ago. I had a meeting with Kevin Spacey. He was making this movie about What's Bobby Darren, Yes, and he I used to do this cabaret act and he'd come and seen it. And I was like, like they were meeting me about the part of SANDARDINEI and Kate Bosworth did that part, and um, yeah she is um and and I I met him somewhere like um for lunch or something, and I walk in. He's like, hey, hey over here, over here, and I'm like, oh, well, he talked like Bobby Darren the entire time. I mean, he's like, you know, he and I remember, particularly like, not knowing what was going on, he goes, I see two swinging cats doing a cabaret act and I thought, oh yeah, he's like to swinging jazz cat ladies doing a cabarett and I was like, oh what. I was like. I was like, I was like, I had no idea how to react. Like I've probably worked with like my share of actors who like do that. Usually it's like while we're working and I'm like, you know, I kind of yeah, you're on set, and that's that's fine. But it was weird meeting somebody for a movie and he's already in character and he called me a swinging jazz cat. So that's wild. The only time you've ever been called a swinging jazz cat? Did you find yourself like kind of trying to adopt a similar No, I was trying to get out of the meeting At that point. I was like, ket me out of here. This is I want to in this movie. I was like, I get a weird feeling about this guy. Was that what made you say no to the movie? Nobody offered me the movie. I was not chosen, but it was good because it was I was not um I think I was. You know in your nightmare, it would have been we wouldn't. I wouldn't have liked the four months of talking in my Jazz Daddy. Yeah, it'd be funny if now Kevin Spacey was like, Wow, that wasn't me that did that. It was it was Bobby. I was characters, Bobby Darren. I couldn't shake it. Welcome. I got fired from a job an animated movie called Tale of Despero, Uh, which I loved because it was all these great actors, actors I loved. I got to it was an animated movie, but they were recording us some I do wonder if you guys have done this where they like wanted us to be interacting and wanted all together with booms. Yeah yeah, or as together as we could be. We had body mics and stuff and and and they because they wanted us to feel our interactions. You know. Cool. It was really cool. Um I did that. I did that on an animated movie. Oh really, yeah, but they did. We were on a sound stage. Yeah, and we had I guess we were like we had um lavelers and stuff. Yeah, they let you, they let you. Let me go. It was because they I know, I was playing I was playing at a mouse, a kid mouse. Happen baby mouse? Yeah, well well here's what happened. Let me said, because I said, I love that. Gary Ross was the director, And I said, um, I was kind of pitching my voice up a little, like, you know, to play it was a younger and Gary. Gary said, uh no, just do your voice like we just want your We don't. I don't want you to pitch it or do a thing affected at all, And and so I didn't. I and I he They claimed that as they were animating to my voice, it just sounded too low, too rich. Who knows, I may have did they did you get replaced by an actual kid? James Earl Jones. Matthew Broderick replaced me, which I was like so flattered by. I was like, I because I loved Matthew broder and what would be what would be fine? I truly I grew up watching him, And Um, I was weirdly flattered. I was like, Okay, if you're gonna lose to somebody, lose to somebody, really, but who cares? You've done so well? The irony is a couple. Like A month later, I got um the Alvin and the Chipmunks job, which Zone and I were just talking about, and I remember running into Gary I don't know how much later and I said, um, he was like, hey, sorry again about that. I said, well, I ended up being playing a road in after all the computers they did, they enhanced my voice made me sound higher. But yeah, it was a bomber. It was a bomber because it was just such a great cast and Christopher Lloyd wasn't. It was a good I worked with Christopher Lloyd. Well, okay, so we're doing together refresh my memory. It was a little tiny movie called Flakes Aaron Stanford and cheer O'Donnell. Yes, shot in New Orleans. Yes, were you buddies with Kere? Is that right? I love those guys? Yeah, Oh my god, Kre and I like here I haven't seen in so long. But he was such a good friend. Um. Yeah, he's so so hilarious and talented. Um. But so we did this movie with Chrisopher Lloyd and I remember we were rehearsing for it and it was a little movie and like we didn't have anybody, like any runners or anything to like go get lunch. And I was like, I'll go get lunch. So I was like taking everyone's orders and like burritos or whatever we're getting. I was getting Chipotle and shout out Chris Lloyd, like in the most Christopher Lloyd way was like and get some of those ha happen. And I'm like okay, okay um, and He's like get some of those albinio things and I'm like yeah, okay. He said it like four times. I was like, this is like the best. I was like, I wish I'd had like camera glasses he has. We had the funniest. We had a moment where he was playing like a mentor of mine and he gives me my character wants to be a night he um, and he's got this courage the mouse, Yeah, the mouse that I got fired from. Uh and he so Christopher gives me a like a needle that is to be my sword. And his line was every good night needs a sword. And he said, uh so he said, every good night he's a sword. And Gary the director said, that's great, Chris, Uh, we got that one. Bring it down a little bit because it's, you know, kind of an intimate moment and uh so it's it's not so okay, okay, take two howevery good Night and you're just sure you know and kind of the same uh And he he was like, yeah, yeah, just really bring it down, like very intimate, almost to whisper, you know, like it says this moment, okay, okay, every good night. You know, it was not the level that he had. Yeah, you were the one who was like, you're the one. It reminds me of it reminds of a moment that we had. Is one of my favorite moments actually on New Girl when you wouldn't call me by my name. Um uh do you remember that moment you had to leave the scene. It was one of my favorites because I was, I was walk us, walk us through what was happening in the scene. So here's here's here's here's what I remember from my point of view, the director said, just walk out of the just come on in and say hello, And you were like, I think it was Jake Johnson and I or I think you said hey, Nick Harry Winston's and then you added an S to my name, and each time it was slightly different. What do you remember from from that? From that, well, it's funny because I was, I was just talking about this. I remember being in church when I was a kid and trying to make my brother's laugh by standing out in like as subtle a way as possible from the conformity of like like the singing. For example, like if we were to like, um, like you know, if we we had to say, like let us let us pray, I would say, let us praise, and I would just add like a an S sound to it, which stands out, which makes it stand out. Or I try to be like the last, like the first one to rise to stand and the last one to sit, and I do it with my friend Craig Geiling, who was on the opposite side of the church too, and we play like kind of it would be. It was like church chicken to see who would sit the last. You know, it was just the two of us still standing in this whole congregation people sitting UM. So that reminded me of that a little bit. I always found it funny to just get people's names slightly wrong. Um, your name is Winston. I think I called you the reiteration of that will Wimbledon, Wilton, Well Walton, Yeah, justin this is a part of this is this is a part of your performance that has possibly gotten me in trouble in my life. So on New Girl, I had a nickname. I was Porcelain. I would always gets from the most random things. Well, you would like, stuff would happen that didn't seem like an opportunity to get injured, and you would somehow injure yourself, like getting up from the couch, stuff like that. I come up with that nickname, you know, I didn't. Zoe came up. I did not, you know, that was jo Zoe would cut out the magazine like a like a kidnapper and simulated notes. Now said, dear plain, trying to keep it together this episode. Please, no, no, you you did you did get injured, but I think it was just bad luck. Right, well, let me tell you. Let me tell you this part. I injured myself getting off of a couch. And let me explain why. There was a moment where a director once said to you, justin leave the scene, just kind of go quickly, and you would take your time in such a way that was so funny, and you would leave and then it was like, can you just go a little bit faster? And then the next take you bolted out of the door so fast, like you did a full sprint and ran out of the door, and we were in tears. So a director was asking me to get off of the couch for like this is maybe a season or two later, and and so I got up, and Zoe and I were in the scene together, and he said, okay, well she does this, just get up and exit the scene. So I got up and said, okay, let more. Can you do a little bit faster? So I thought I was moving as fast as I humanly could. That made sense to the scene. So I got up and I walked out. He goes, I hate to do this to you, but if you could just move like just a little bit quicker out of the scene. I said, okay, great, I said, I'm gonna pull a justin long. I'm going to push myself off of the couch and leap over the table. That was my plan. I was gonna aggressively push myself down. If you know that couch, the one that we always sat on on the loft, there's a dead spot in the cushion, doesn't quite have that much cushion at it. It was a vintage couch when we got it. And as I pushed myself down, my thumb goes down and I dislocate my thumb and you can hear it in the you can hear it in an old edit. It just goes, Oh my god, is that embarrassing. It was not only embarrassing. I had to go to the emergency room. Dude, No, no, I credit you for that. Well. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you were in earned to hurt yours. I used to do a bit. I'm sure I did it on your show, because I've been doing it since kindergarten that I got from John Ritter, not personally, but um, he would do this great thing with the door. I'm sure he got it from somebody. You know, it probably goes back to chaplain or something, but um, you you stop a door with your foot, I mean you just time it so that it's it hits your shoe perfectly right as it's Jason, Jason Ritter taught that to me, No kidd and yeah, like in high, high school or elementary, I can't remember. It's probably hum. I remember he would do that and then he was like, oh, yeah, did he showed me? And then yeah, No, it's a great it's a great trick. I love that one. Well, I've been getting mileage from it since Kinder, Like I remember, I remember like it was an indelible moment to me, indelible memory getting a laugh from that. Um. And so I do it all the time. I would do it all the time I was doing stuff. One of our sponsor or on the show is bud Light seltzer Um on a podcast, shout out to bud Light seltzer Um. And so I was doing like a bit for Instagram to you know, hitting my running into something and and the key part of it is that you have to be wharing hearing protective footwear because that's what you're hitting, that's really what you're getting is And I was, I was with I was also trying to impress my girl. I was trying to make her laugh because she had never seen me do that, and it's like a sure fire lacks like I go to like ace in the hole and I was wearing crocs and yeah, and so I hit it. So I hit my foot so hard because I really like over committed to the biase. I'm trying to impress her, trying to be funny for this thing on Instagram. And immediately I knew. You know that, you know when you get hurt trying to do something funny like little more than like your couch thing, and you quickly have to do the calculation. You don't want to be You don't want to let on that you're hurt, because it's the most embarrassing thing to like get hurt doing something fun trying to be funny, to get hurt. So I covered it up at first, like I was like, but she must have seen like real pain, like she must have seen me suppressing like genuine pain because I was, I was, I was shot through my leg and shot all this was this was Brooke. This was Kate Brooke, um and and and she was like skate bag and she was like, um uh. She didn't really laugh, I was. She kind of gave me a consolation laugh. And then she goes and I'm sweat. I must have had the weirdest grin plastered on my face because I wanted to cry. You know, it was that bad. It hurt that bad that I wanted to like, And she goes, are you okay? And I tried to play it off like um uh yeah, what do you mean. She's like, you seem like you're in pain, and um, I had to come clean. I mean it was a moment where I was like, well, I have to this person can see um. And so I had to admit that I had hurt myself. And I hurt myself so badly that I went I was hot, I was limping. I was like hobbling. I think I may have broken my toe. And I had to go shoot a movie in Bulgaria the next day. I had to travel so for the first and I was doing and then yeah, correctly, so justin you have this, you have this energy on set that is contagious for and obviously this love for comedy that in a way, even the way you explain it just now, it's almost teacher like. It's almost um like you could teach a class on this type of stuff you're directing. Now, you know what? What is that like? Is this something you've always wanted to do? Is that something uh that you enjoyed doing? Yes? Thanks more and I it's nice to you to say, I think, And that's just along everybody. Uh yeah, I do. I my brother and I with him. I do the podcast. Christian shout out, Christian shout but Selzer Christian long? What up? Krep um we we call I called him Krit when I was growing up because we didn't like as to this day, I'm not crazy about MUTI syllable names. Uh so I he called me jut and my other brother Damian is dame um so Chrit and I do this podcast. So we made a movie with Jason's wife, Melanie Melanie wonderful Melanie Melanie. She is one of my sister's best friends. Yes, that's right, Yes, I think I knew that. Melanie Lynskey. Um, it's so good and she's on this. If you haven't seen Yellow Jackets checking out you so good? Uh. But but Melanie and Judy, Um, it's like an odd couple comedy which which we loved, which were favorite Judy Greer, Judy Greer and Melanie out. Um, yeah it was. But we got so lucky with them. It's called Lady of the Manor and it's out and I don't know, you know, in the stream everywhere. Yeah, platform platforms. Yeah, but we we love doing it. We can't wait to do another one. And those were are always our favorite movies growing up, those buddy Buddy comedies which Um, In fact, I was thinking about what about Bob. I've been thinking about Gensling or knowing that I was going to do the show and the character I played on your show. Um, And I think that's why I loved Bill Murray. And what about Bob so much was that he had a similar a guy it's got it's always great words, guilelessness, like he was just kind of guileless. Uh. And really that movie is so good. I haven't thought about that in a long time. That Baby Stepping to the keeping Miss Miss Misunderstands Baby seven. Yes, yeah, but I but it's the it's the again it's something that could have been very dark, that relationship between Richard Dreyfuss and Bill mur Right that was handled so beautifully by Frank Coz. I just love I love that movie. So that movie is always such a yeah, that movie is so good. Is the little thing? Well, that character the Richard Drivers plays is kind of like the lead character, but then he's a he's like a narcissist character, and then it's like super sweet guy who's like innocent in a lot of ways but also like a stable and he's staking him yeah, yeah, pushes, but he wins over the entire family spoilers. So sorry, Lauren, you gotta see that movie. But it's also you haven't seen it? What you have to see that movie? It nas it's no, it's called what About Bob? What about Bob? What Bill Murray? Oh? Oh, if you like Bill Murray, lam you'll really love it. But it's also although do you ever go back and watch those like eighties comedies and be like, oh that doesn't hold up very I need let me go back and watch have you watched it recently? Like how oh yeah, I watched it all the times. Well, sometimes they don't hold up, but they're also like not okay, problematics. I haven't Oh my god, what is it six sixteen candles? Candles and Pretty and Pink? Yeah, those movies. Oh my god, there's so much problematic stuff. I think it's sixteen candles. Yeah, sixteen candles. Sneaks in the room and hooks up it's someone and she thinks it's someone else or something. So the one guy who's like the lead guy who you're supposed to like, says to Anthony Michael Hall like this was on TV or somehow. I was like, oh, let me watch that movie again. And I was like, oh my god. So he's like he's going out with this girl who's kind of shallow, and then he's like, she gets really drunk. She's passed out in this car. And then um, the lead guy whose name I forgot, Jake Ryan, I think it's like the guy and he says, like the Anthony Michael Hall character, he hands them the keys and it's like you take her, do what you want with her or something like that. Put her to bed and like to give her some water. The next day, they wake up together and then she's like what happened? And he's like like I can't remember, but she's like, I think I liked it or something like that. It's so oh not to problematic, Like movie of that caliber from back in those days. Would to change some of them? Would that be the movie you would remake? Or would you? I mean, I think they're like I think we're due for some good team movies because again, like all the ones from the eighties are racist and problematic in various ways, um like either rap or racist or both. So um, so maybe we're due for some more teen movies that we can feel okay showing Derek. Yeah, wow, I haven't seen those movies in a long time. I hadn't seen The Jerk in Along ever, I didn't I had not seen The Jerk, and um, it had been a movie that people that I really admired were like, you know, strongly recommended, and I so I got to see that a couple of years ago, and I just I fell in love with I mean, there's some like there's racial humor in it, but it's it's at his expense. It feels like, um, you know, some of that stuff seems like if you looked at it through a very macro lens, it should you know, it could be problematic, but I think some of that stuff if it was done properly, and and by that I mean, um, not not in danger of hurting anyone or alienating all. Oh gosh, yes, that my character is probably like it's funny because that was one of the things that has been brought to our you know, not not brought to our attention, but like people are like, how are you guys going to talk about the way Schmidt talks, which is on a episodic basis problematic? Really in that that's a good question. Have there been things on the show that through a new lens you've had to read like kind of explain or apologize for, Well, you had to, you know, there was a lot of even when it happened, a lot of explaining for me on that. There was a Crack episode where his character is he thinks that the best way to get to my heart is to get out of here and get what is it to take me to to find crack? You're I don't remember this. I don't remember. I'm not joking because he's like asking me, like, what was it like living in the hood and all this? The clown was our dealer. Um wait, LaMura, are you seriously and what about how did Schmidt talk? That was like but also a lot of yeah, there's so much. But the thing is we did establish that he's a douche bag, and it was self deprecating. It was self deprecating. It was it was it wasn't offensive to me because it was it happens. People are like that, people like he would talk differently to you. Yeah, and he would like, you know, he wanted me to feel welcome and more included. So he was like, I want you to feel warm around me. So I'm gonna take you to get some crack. Because I don't remember this because what was this in I don't remember, Joel, if we could figure that out, it was the episode it was it was. He forget what it was, but I was, I was messing with him. I was like, yeah, Schmidt, you know, when I was a kid, we used to we used to, you know, huddle up around the fire and like sing songs in a trash barrel, a trash can fire, and we would sing songs and then we would warm up to some nice sweet crack. And he was, let's see, I'm gonna get you some crack, man. But isn't then the joke on on Schmidt, I mean, isn't isn't it his own ignorance? And exactly That's what I was saying. That's why I didn't find it offensive because there are like that. Yeah, every moment that Schmidt had on the show, where it may have been looked at with a cringe, was a teachable moment for him because if you write the show and the way his character evolves, he is not that character in the end. Yeah, totally. And that this was so great about that David Brank character and the Michael Scott character on the Office or Archie Bunker, is that you know, it reveals their own shortcomings, their own judices or biases that that are laughable, you know, if they're examined properly and you know, comedically. So I got I didn't even know, but I know that everything is now being relooked relooked at and rightly. So I think people are kind of doing a Yeah. I mean, it's just it's interesting just to look through a lens and things like would we portray that character that way? Is a comment on people like that? Or would there be you know, I mean, it wasn't up to me because I wasn't writing it, but um or you know, or acting it, but you know, it's it's like there's people like that in the mix, you know. Yeah. And that's the reason why I love All in the Family is because that's one of my favorite is because you know, he's clearly telling on himself and the audience is in on this and their characters around him that are letting him know, Bro, this is not this is not how we behave not what you're supposed to be doing. Like and and I think I hope society is progressing to the point where we like it did during All in the Family time, where whoever is taking that at face value and enjoying it at face value and and doesn't see the irony in those jokes. I'm hoping eventually they'll just they'll, I hate to say it, I they'll just die out. I mean they'll just die, like that way of thinking will die, and that kind of prejudice will That's I guess the hope. I don't know, maybe that's too maybe that's too positive way of like that idea dies out. I hope they just hope they learn. I hope they develop some self awareness. A lot of people don't grow. They don't a lot, especially if you're of a certain age. I mean, you know, I struggle with this sometimes. I'm not saying certainly this is what we're talking about with my parents, but but you know, if people were of a certain age, they're kind of setting their ways. Um to this is this agist? Am I being agists? Yes you are, Yes I am. I'm gonna pull out. I'm gonna bail out of this theory that I had Episode twelve Cabin. That's the episode O cabin I remember because that was um we had Olivia Mann on that one. And um, that's right, David Walton where we all go to a cabin. That's right, go to a cabin and to crack. Welcome justin so, yes, you're on our podcast and and and we're ever so grateful every I've done your podcasts, ever so grateful. Tell us about your podcast, man, how did it come about? Tell us how you liken it, how youve been doing a long time? Yeah, yeah, well it's been m a couple of years now. Well, thank you invented podcast? Right, yes, uh, the first one before Joe even but I came up with the word, um, he said we should call it voice casting, and I said, what about But like when we do it, we're in kind of a pod a little bit and he's a little baby pod and he was like, nah, I'm out. I'm too I'm too tough for that, macho. Um, So I stayed in my little pod to do the show. Uh, we know. But my my brother and I we do it, of course wondering as you can see. Um, but but my brother and I've been doing it mostly out of um just where I live. I mean, we do it. We have a little kind of a closet studio and you guys live together. We lived together. He's getting he's moving out sadly. Um, but we did. We spend the whole Oh it was the best. I mean we're we're you know, best friends and really love each other so and laugh a lot. So it's basically just us getting to hang out and laugh and we he that we do the intro and the outro for for the guests, and then we have a guest on that I I have a conversation with and um, and then Christian kind of brother. Yeah, I didn't meet your brother at all, so he didn't exist. No, No, I know, he's like the voice. I don't even know him, the voice of God. He'll he'll he'll like critique are not You're going to critique me? Not you He'll he's very honest with me. Um, but he's going to judge me. No, okay, he will judge me. And that's kind of part of the fun. And because we're very honest with each other. Um, And we've been doing it for a couple of we just love it's God life is short, and uh, I love it. I've always loved doing podcast because as you can hear, I like to talk and um, I'm curious about people. I like, I like talking to people. And it's been such a blessing during the pandemic, of course, because you know, I just we just weren't going out and so it was a way to Like Lamuren when you were on, it was perfect example of this. I just to catch up with people that you don't normally get to talk to, people that you like, UM from your life. So Jake Max was on Mas Max Max Reinfield, No no worst um we've had we've been really like. So I think now that's always been on and you know, once Hanazon will have the whole will have collected all the cast members. So I'm gonna so one days where we get lazy. All we have to do is just pull from your your podcast on our podcast. Ye well yes, uh and I I love I just love to talking about this show. This was such a that was such a fun job, and it's it's a job your show that keeps coming up justin the episode that makes me laugh so much. I just have to mention this where um we do the musical at the end with Josh gad with Josh. Yeah, that one somebody somebody sent were like it was like in my mentions on Instagram like the other day and I was like this is so I was like, oh I forgot about this is so funny. It was wolf. Remind me it was like something wolf you're a gay wolf. You're a gay wolf food No, but no one understood you. You were misunderstood of right, a gay wolf and wolf is a word that I can't really say properly. So it's always trip tripped me up. And Josh adds doing a show called wolf like me so much. The poster wolf like me. I think maybe is it wasn't you that was the wolf or was it Josh? I don't remember. I was just talking about Josh Dad with at work yesterday because we're talking about Curb Your Enthusiasm episode from this year where Josh plays a guy who wears like tattered underwear. Have you seen have you seen this? And Josh he's playing a doctor. He's really funny. He's playing a doctor or and Larry. He bends over to pick something up and Larry notices that he has like kind of holes tattered underwear. And Josh was the gay wolf. Gay Josh was the gay wolf. Yeah. Anyway, we're talking about because Vince Baon calls it. But I'm working with Vince Vahn now and he um, so he's been his voice has been in my head, has been around. He's just been around. Um and he on the on curb he calls, he refers to the underwear as being um he goes, well, I suppose it was a little rustic. He goes a rustic like the idea of old tattered under thing rustick. Ye, I guess I guess it was a little rustic. Um. So, justin thank you, thank you very much for being a part of this podcast. We're not gonna let you off the hot seat just yet. Oh no, we're not. We're not gonna let you off the hot seat. I don't want to go. I have nothing to do, having too much fun. I know this is fun. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna play a little game. It's a game called Nick's Box. It starts with you slowly taking your shirt off for the fans out there, and then slowly leaving put the shirt and then quickly leaving. Okay, okay, twice you leave twice? Well yeah, because first you have to leave as slowly as possible, they have to leave as okay, alright, and then you have to hit your foot on the door your head. I haven't done that bit since because I'm afraid now and it's my I'm gonna show. I haven't sat on a couch since the Wow only sectionals. Um, welcome back to the segment where we crawl into the back of Nick's closet and we put out the memories that the cast and crew of New Girl have kept hidden for years for obvious reasons. Justin long, what's your favorite memory from your time working on New Girl? Oh? Man, Um, you know it's gotta be, and we talked about it that it's got to be that sex It's it's weird called a sex scene. A lot of erotic love scene. I I just remember laughing so much that day. Uh and and it was so weird and um it was just so weird and fun to like commit to. UM. I love that, you know, there were moments I actually felt bad them. I love playing around Lamaren with you and Max and Jake so much that UM, I remember trying to stretch out scenes that were meant to just be filler scenes, you know, like like Zoe, I remember we had one, right, I basically just go to pick you up. It's like the scene is just like it's meant to get from like you got you in the room to like us on a date or whatever. And it's just me at the door being like let's go, and the three of you Lamor and Max and Jake were behind like there were you were in the background on the couch when you used to sit on couches, Lamar and and I remember kind of like lee around Zoe because because I was like are you ready to go? And you say yeah, and and then just say hi to you guy. You You've made a lot of bits that were like that weren't in the script that that became like recurring bits that you just carried through, like you every time you'd see the guys trying to impress them. It was almost at a certain point like you liked them more than you're like trying to impress them. Yeah, it was great how you'd carry those through. Well, it's real commitment to something that would that is in an unprofessional way because it's something that you knew wouldn't be used as someone who had been doing the show long, well, we knew a lot of it was going to get yes. And and the indulgent part that I do have some regrets about was that I should have known that too. And there's something I'm in a guest star. I'm like, I'm coming in just to like, you know, for a limited time and it's your show and dumb and I but but it was it only because I loved playing around, uh with with you guys so much. But I remember, Zoe us at one point you started kind of like kind of opening the door more. Um, you opening the door less reveal that I couldn't see them to throw lines of them. I was definitely messing with you back so um but um, We always enjoyed having you on the shows. It was so much fun and we knew that we would have a great time. Yeah, when you were around bringing the funny. Oh man, A lot of folks are calling for a reboot and they don't give it. God damn about any of the other characters, but you, I just want to see Paul. Yeah. Well, if if Liz is listening, Mary, whether we should do a spinoff and then you guys could Yeah, and then we're the ones who are going to have to like curb our break. No, it would be our improvisations. Yeah. Yeah, But to get back at me, you won't know. I it's it's a it's a show that comes up all the time. Obviously it's so popular and but but whenever people come up to me about it mentioned it, they always seem so sweet. They seem like good, like nice people, you know. But I know that the New Girls fans are the best bet. Yeah, yeah, I always enjoy them. I enjoy those interactions so much. So if you're listening and you see that, you see the guns out on the town, say what's up? Yeah? I loved it, and you guys were so fun to work with, So it's fun to talk about. And the fans out there love you. They love you so much. Yes, thank you so much for being on our show. You guys, thanks for having me. But I got to do this. Yeah, we appreciate it. So I tell Hannah sorry. I just got a text from Hannah. I just will you read it? Verbade him. Well, it's a photo. It's a do you want me to shall use the photo that hand of just sent? I could shut you right now. Let's just sent this photo. Oh it's a middle it's a mid middle finger. Yeah, I don't know why she did that. I'm calling her, calling her right now. She may have changed her number. Hello, where the f are you? H kind of got really shut out of the podcast today, and then my feelings are a little hurt. Oh well, a lot of hurt feelings because my feelings were hurt that you weren't here, and I I've got paranoid that it may have been something that I did. And then Lamaren made a joke and I didn't know if he was being serious about wasn't a joke. That's whole sense of humor is making people feel like everybody gave them Zoe is wait, we're on Wait can you hear me? She can't hear. Yeah. We asked if you wanted to be on, and you were like, if it's additive, and we're like up to you. And then I thought you were gonna be on, and then you weren't on, and so we're like, Okay, I guess we're doing with that. With Hannah, your feelings were really hurting many cooks. That's the vibe was like, Oh, yes, this is why texting sometimes doesn't work, because then this is why emoji is coming handy to create a tone. Well, listen, you are on the show now, so problem solved. Well I thought I thought it. I thought it would give us the opportunity to have episodes off, like when Hannah interviews Stephen Hmel or whatever. I have to be here, Zoe saying she thought, I give you an opportunity to have you guys could like take episodes off and not all have to be at the same time. I'm gonna um. But Hannah, it's so nice to hear your voice. I missed you in this chat. It was so fun, but it's so fun talking about the show. I missed you. Yeah, Well, maybe I'll come on your podcast and we'll talk about it there, let's do let's do it truly, um, because I was just saying, I've had everyone on uh life a short except for you. So I'm gonna I'm gonna text you and figure out a date perfect. That would be great. Um. Thanks pel okay, all right, voice, okay, thank you, thank you for being here. Hello. Hey, hey, oh my god, just just yeah, you're on You're on the podcast right now. Justin hung up and said, oh my god, I'm not sure. I'm so glad she wasn't a part of this. And I was like, yo, what do you guys have a history or something, because you know, I'm so glad she was a part of this. Oh I thought I heard. Well, you know I have a soft spot for Yeah, I like all Hannah's because my my pet, uh this is quirky. Are like family pet growing up was a rabbit named Hannah. Yes, and even more quirky when Hannah passed away. We had it for for a long time. When Hannah the rabbit passed away, I went to the pet store to get another rabbit and I picked one out like like the smallest one, the runt of the litter, because I identified because I was the shortest and smallest, and and I took it home and it started hopping around in a strange way, like it's front pause were kind of splayed out, and I I picked it up, and I looked underneath it, and I realized it had no hind legs. It just had little nubs, little like little snubs and and and so I took it back to the pet store and the guy, the kind of surly pet store owner was I. I said, sir, there's no yah. I'm twelve years old. I was like, no, this rabbit has no legs and has no feet. And uh. He said, all right, put you pick out another one and he and he took it, and he tossed it in a separate tank than the other one's separa and what's going to happen to that rabbit? And he said, one of the pythons is gonna get lucky. And yeah, so of course, you know, my little animal loving heart was I couldn't let this thing be eaten by and bye. That's so I said, Wow, okay, I'll take it. I said, well, can you knock off? Can I get like a discount or something? He said, I'll take five. I'll take five, but no five bucks, and at the time, I was like a twenty dollar rabbit, and so he gave five dollars off and I had and I called him Nubs And I had that rabbit. I took it to college. I had it like all throughout my freshman year. It lived for quite some time for a rabbit with no feet, um, it lived. So that's kind of a Genslinger story. Yeah, yeah, I love it. She didn't want to be on the podcast. You guys, I have to go. You gotta go, Zoe. Thank you, Thank you so much. I love you, guys. Thank you for being on, and thanks for having me on your show too. Thanks for being on, Thanks for being on, and thanks for having me. I love you, guys. Miss you. Guys. You've been listening to Welcome to Our Show, a New Girl recap podcast. Welcome to Our Show is a production of I Heart Radio, hosted by Zoe Deschanel, Lamuren Morris, and Hannah Simone. Our executive producers Joel Mooney. Our engineer and editor is Daniel Goodman. Welcome to Our Show theme song was written by Zoe Deschanel, performed and produced by Zoey Deschanel and Pierre de Reader. Follow us on Instagram and Welcome to our Show pot. If you have a question you'd like us to answer, you can email us at Welcome to our Show podcast at gmail dot com. Don't forget to rate, subscribe, and share far and wide. Thanks for listening. We'll hear you next week. Two