218: Tinfinity

Published Aug 13, 2024, 7:00 AM

Hey, Loftmates! This is the episode where Schmidt throws an epic party to celebrate his and Nick's tenth anniversary. Shivrang proposes and Nick's in charge of the portopoties. Hannah and Lamorne plan their lace anniversary. We debate the merits of washing jeans. Lamorne critiques his performance and Hannah promises not to hijack LeBron.  

Hey, babe. Yeah, babe, babe, babe. It's so good to see you. You as well, and you look fantastic, so much. What you've been doing, doing what you've been telling me to do. Yeah, getting it, getting that in.

Yeah, I know you don't mean it's there.

Yeah, I trust you.

It's there.

We're matching today, we are today. Look at this the mess around.

The mess around classic.

Very classic. Everyone's been talking about it.

Yeah.

Every time I walk down the street, I see people wearing it, and I just get so excited and so happy. Yeah, you know how to rep I know. It's a great gift for both young and old grandma's and dying grandpa's. Yes, exactly. Great funeral attire. Oh yeah, I'm gonna wear this in my next funeral. Oh. But how you been. I've been good. It's good. I've truly been good. Yeah, I've been on a healthcake. Nice. Thanks to you. You're very very welcome. We say health is wealth, and you have a lot of houses, so you gotta pay for him. Yes, I want everybody now exactly. So we are. We're just picking up fromhere we left off last week. Folks. We are here with episode two eighteen in infinity.

Infinity equals celebrating friendship. Yes, adults celebrating their friendship, which is basically kind of what this podcast is.

Yesh. It's not something that we do consciously. No, we do it. You know, we go out, we have these little moments where we go, oh, man, you know, I've known you for X amount of years. In this episode, for some reason, these two jack As are making it a bit more formal. Well, one in specific, one in specific is pushing it on the other.

I feel like that's kind of like the me and our relationship a little bit where I'm like, I'm going to schedule this every single week so you have to hang out with me and we can talk about how much we love each other and this is really important to me, and then we're just gonna let the world like watch it.

Yeah, I think so. I mean, I'm busy, you know what I'm saying. It's the ultimate mess around. Trapped you.

I know, I've trapped your ass in this loft.

And now you put me in a studio. That's right, because we used to speak over zoom dreams come true, and now we're here in person. That's right.

Yeah, Wait a minute, get out, all right, break it down, Break it down.

What are we gonna talk about today? Okay, this episode is interesting. So in this episode, Nick and Schmidt they are planning a party to celebrate their ten year anniversary, which is weird, their ten year anniversary of living together. But quickly they start arguing over planning chores. Now, I've never done this. We just spoke about that. This is not something I've ever done. Apparently this is something that thirty year old, like white dudes do I called. I called six black people and I said, do y'all do this? And they were like hell No. Called an Indian guy, the carsh the one Indian guy. You know, I know like three, I know, I know a lot, I know a lot of He said, this ain't what we do. And also in this episode, Winston has become friendly and professional football player Jacks McTavish, which is a funny name played by the magnificent Steve Howie. And instantly Jess is all over that. She is trying to steal him away from Winston. She's trying to get it. Yeah, she's trying to get it in and get over Nick being her last kiss. She's she's way over that now. Meanwhile, see see, she gets a less than stellar surprise from from Chavrang when he gives her this kind of basic and boring wedding proposal, like, you know, let's do this thing, and she's over him. Yeah no, kind of in this moment and all these storylines, they come crashing together at a party called Tinfinity, The Infinity Party, the Tinfinity Party.

I would just like to say it made me think instantly that our ten year friendship anniversary would be August twenty twenty one, and we missed it. This year will be thirteen years, which is our Lace anniversary, and it's coming up in August, and I do think that we should honor it.

Lace. Fuck you think I'm gonna do, Hannah, just show up.

With something lay on the podcast. You all know what's gonna happen.

Every time I do that, people start paying me for things, and I'm done with those days.

Okay, not the most exciting one, Lace, but I'm going to figure something out. I'm going to get you a gift this year.

Thank you.

It's going to be our first ever celebration, formal celebration.

Well, you're rich enough, your show is doing well, Please give me a gift. I am showless.

This episode, by the way, was directed by Max Winkler, who ended up directing.

A few a lot. I think you the second most, I want to say, the second most episodes directed by it. It's by him. I think Trent might have the most, but Max.

Isn't a Yeah clo, Max Winkler, he's the best, amazing, And it was written by Cameras and Sock and Josh Melmoth. Ah, yes, the malmoth.

The malmoth. We love him. Oh yes, he's great. So yeah, here we are, So let's dive right into it. Schmidt and Nick invite everyone to their ten year anniversary of living together. Yes, they do this fun flashback every first of all, every time Nick and Schmidt have a flashback episode, it's I could watch that series. Yes, I will pitch that series.

That's a spin off everybody wants.

One hundred percent. They have the wood flashback, they have the paper flashback.

Just the inherent violence of all of it.

It's a funny part, so stupid, so stupid. When I was watching it, I remember the moment and I didn't. I didn't actually remember filming this, but watching it when I had the wood in my hand and Nick has an acts and he's about to chop it. For some reason, when I rewatched this episode, I must have checked out, because I do not remember that happening, really, not at all.

His swing is so high that you know it's coming for your hand, and I was genuinely concerned.

Yeah, because Jake's be drinking.

And he was having a good time in those early seasons.

Oh yeahbody was having a good time. Oh yeah, it was great. It was great. And so let me get this straight. Yeah, would paper that's a real thing? Yes, this is so when you if I mean, because you've clearly done this, Yes, when it's you say a lace anniversary for example, like, what is the real celebration?

So I've actually never done it where I've celebrated with what the thing is? Because paper, this is not very exciting, don't You got to put in time and work to get to like the good stuff, like the diamond anniversary. Okay, So I've never done it, but I like the idea of it, and I feel like this year I'm going to do it for the first time with you, with me.

Yeah. Lace, they got these lace lebrons that they I think they might have, So I'll take a pair of or lace Ferrari lace seats. Sure. Sure, then I'll celebrate all day. Lego, lego. That's what I'm getting you. It's the thought that counts. So Jess says she needs to date a new guy to get over Nick being her last kiss. She can't stop thinking about his mouth being on her mouth.

Yeah, there's like a big scene where Zoe and I talk about it. Zoe is so funny in that scene because she's just kind of like living through the emotion and trying to just talk it out. And CEC's advice is you need a palate cleanser. Yeah, you need just like a new mouth on your mouth, which is kind of like a fun look. I feel like for the Jest character to just like use a body, yeah, to erase.

A memory and also think in real life that that is something that people tend to do. Yeah, a lot of times it's met with regret, yes, because that that that next mouth you kiss might be a nasty mouth. That's right, And you don't want to just go around mouth and people just to get over somebody, but you know, yeah, it happens. Well.

That's a funny part about this episode too, is that they show shake with the nastiest looking mouth.

Yeah, with the cupcake, with the cupcake, and this is and this makes her feel some type of way or emotional I guess if you will, because I don't know if it's turning her own at all, that's right, but that but she, you know.

Just the worst feeling when you're sitting there going like, why why is my body responding to this? Because my brain can see that this is disgusting, and my body is doing different things.

My body right now only responds like it truly only responds to one woman, and one woman only. I'm not gonna say her name because I've said it a million times and that's it, Zoyd Kravitt.

You can't help yourself enough silence, and you're gonna fit. You're gonna fill the space, that's right.

Okay, So yeah, that'd be the only person I'd be like, come on, I can't get over you. She's gonna calls seriously, but yeah against me. Don't do that. I'm not serious. Okay.

So then she goes to the bar. She's going to just try to find anybody, and then every single person she talks to is an instant turn off. Yes, because of crazy things and this is what I genuinely wanted.

To talk to you about when I was watching it.

Is the guy who says that he's wearing denim and he hasn't washed his jeans in eighteen months. I know lots of people that jeans they don't unless something like falls and stains it. Like they they don't wash their denim because they believe it like changes the fade of it, yeah, or like makes it tight and weird, and they don't wash their jeans.

You know what's interesting For a while, I okay, let me just say I have been that person. But it wasn't like eighteen months. It was more so like because I have a lot of jeans, but they're like two or three pair that I wear all the time. And it wasn't until I remember walking a lot one day and then getting home putting those pants up the next day, going, oh, what do I want to wear? Pick those pants up and realize how awful they smelled, and I was like, man, I don't be washing my jeans. I was like, just because the smell ain't they don't mean it ain't dirty. You know, the smell means there's a surplus of filth. So I started washing my jeans, and it was like a trial and error thing. I would wash them, dry them, then it would come back looking all raggedy and disheveled. So then a wise person once told me, the wise person named Google. They said, you wash them inside out, yes, cold, and then just air dry them, like hang them out to dry.

They feel a little crunchy. They'll never feel the same, is the truth. It is a weird thing. I just thought it. There's like, there's a lot of thought about this. As we're discussing the fact that it was such an instant obvious turn off to whatever, you know, like writer pitch that particular thing. I was like, Wow, they washed their jeans all the time, and I feel like they're the minority controversial, but I think.

That, well, who is it that doesn't wash their legs?

Legs? Yeah, just legs in general, like hips down a thing or mid die down.

Taylor Swift or something like that, she wash her legs.

Somebody was like, somebody, Google, careful, it was just.

White people was a generalization because I remember we did an episode of Woke about that.

You mean, like in the shower, they don't like.

They washed everything else, like it runs down the legs, so they figured they you know, that's this is what we did a bit on Woke about that and and Blake Anderson when he was performing it, the line was how do you how do you wash up in the shower? And he was like, you know, like this and like this, and Ransom and then I get out. He was like, you don't. You don't wash your legs. He's like, no, the soap trickles down and washes my legs for me. And then Taylor Swift and then we posted on You're right. It was Taylor. It was Taylor Swift. It was Taylor Swift. I gotta ask her about.

That genuinely, like, don't think it's that crazy that you're not unless there's like something like you don't have to sit there like scrub your.

Legs, so you don't wash your legs.

I don't think so. I think about it.

Wash your arms, yeah, because it's all kind.

Of like with an easy reach. Taylor Swift and I have so much in common.

Are you half white? Yes?

I am bottom half. That's right, be solved Aasian from the hips down. It all checks out.

It all checks out. The rash guy. That guy is my favorite because she hates him and all he's trying to do was better his health. That's right, that's it.

The fact that it was a prescription lotion. Mind you that, now that I say it out loud, I don't know. If that's the guy, then I just want to like have like a fun makeout at the.

Bar with I mean, you know, everybody got something, but.

Like what if it's there's what if it's just not the visible but.

I don't know, it could be other places.

It could be other places. What if he needs help in the application? Just like not you know, that's like, like that's relationship.

It's good to know you're not a team player.

No, I'm not oil up your own body parts with your medications. I've just met you. Also, too much information.

That is true. That is true. However, however, she has these three guys yes that completely turn her off. Yes, and then, because she is so bent on getting what she wants, she sees the tall, strong, good looking guy, She's like, I'm gonna make out with him. Oh, Annie talks about his feelings. Surprise, he got something too. Yeah, that boy, that boy emotional, very emotional. That boy wear his heart on his sleeve. Both of them.

That was.

Do you remember there was like a Friend's episode that was the Bruce Willis Friends arc.

A friend's episode. I know, I've never seen Friends never. I was busy watching real TV shows like Martin Living Single. Friends is a rip off a Living Single and to be fair, New Girls a rip off of Friends.

What I'm saying, know your history, Know where you came from, Remember where you came from?

Lamar, I've never I've never watched, really never watched.

Okay, so it's not like I'm a die hard Friends fan, but I remember that there was like Bruce Willis was on the show, same thing. Jennifer Andison's character Rachel was just like I need some man who's like in touch with his emotions and he's like strong and big and sexy. Same was this like Steve Howie character and then realizes his feelings and then just can't stop crying.

Is that what Bruce Willis was doing?

Yes, And it's super funny to see him like that when he's you know, big action star at the time and she gets so turned off and then she has to figure out how to moon walk away from Bruce, which is similar to this situation.

Maybe I should watch Friends just watch that one one episode. Yeah, if you're out there, please comment below which episode that is. I refuse to google. I don't want to google. I want my algorithm start sending me weird friends, gifts and quotes.

You want to hear a fun piece of trivia? Sure is that Prince used to email me and ask when, Like the episodes would be honests, like when's a new episode on? And I would email Prince back and be like, google it. And That's what I'm gonna say to you right now. I'm gonna treat you like Prince.

I'm you told Prince.

I'm not here to be like it's Tuesdays at nine, I'm Fox.

No.

I was like, Prince, get it together.

Google it's Prince.

These people are not going to sit there and tell you what when the Bruce episode?

Google?

You know what I do if Prince. If Prince emailed me and said, hey, what time is New Girl episode coming on? I will fly to this man's house and change the channel for him. You're kidding me.

That's why he did not email you. You were too thirsty.

Too thirsty was out there dry mouth.

I'm also okay, I want to talk about the name Jacks mcavat because apparently I read this interview where it was Dave Finkel and Brett Bear and Elizabeth Merriweather and they were talking about this episode and they were saying how Berkeley Johnson was like the name Guy, one of the writers on the show.

Incredible writer.

The name Guy always like just could come up with really cool, fun character names, and they feel like this one it was a swing and a miss. I personally loved it.

I loved it because I thought it was funny. It such a like made up name. That's why I liked it. In fact, back behind the scenes, Jake and Max were always doing these bits they're like because they thought the name was ridiculous too. Yeah, so a lot of outtakes of Jake going Jack's McTavish and then Max would go Jack mccavash from the San Francisco team, and they just kept doing that bit over and over again. So, in fact, every time I think of Jack's McTavish or this episode, or even Steve Howie, yeah, I always go, oh, from the San Francisco team. If I see a forty nine Ers game, I go oh, look it's the San Francisco team, right, just based on this particular just the deleted scenes. Yeah.

I think the fact that they said that they were talking about this episode and how there were so many things they were trying to accomplish and sometimes it would all line up in some episodes.

Yeah, you could see like that is.

Definitely written for TV, which bumped them, I guess bretton Dave and Liz, But I kind of liked it. I like the fact that there were some things that were so obviously written and it just made it out loud funny.

Because at the end of the day, it's still TV. It's supposed to be silly. Yeah, Mike, Mike, my character had shrimp fork hands. Yeah, it's it's it's for fun.

Yeah, it's all right, go with the bit sometimes.

Oh. Also maybe we could talk about that later or now. In that the same interview you're talking about, Liz spoke about how difficult it was to make this episode based off of you know, if you're paying attention to this episode, you notice that Zoe is not in the a story Yeah, which is rare for this I mean, she's the face of the show, so it was difficult for them to piece together something compelling in that particular storyline, and also it was difficult because of weather.

Yeah, apparently there was huge rainstorms that came and rained it out, but the majority of the episode is outside, and so it was all muddy and changing and looking different, and so it just became really tricky to get it all done. I remember in that last scene actually when I run into the tent. There was no tent before, and Winklers like, we got a bit of tentup. They started to rain again and they put me in that black coat that has like kind of like silver studs down the arm, and the coat didn't fit right because it was like a last minute grab and they had put something out. It was freezing. I remember that for some reason that whole episode. I remember that moment because I was like so personally resistant to this coat. Was like, I don't think this is the greatest coat. They're like, well it's freezing and raining and the tents up.

We don't care.

Get the coat on and run in. So I know that that's the part. I remember that the weather was bad and it was weird, and the location was difficult because it was super muddy all over the ground.

Yes, because it typically takes five days to shoot an episode, this one apparently took a month.

Yeah, and it's probably the only one that was like that.

Yeah.

I don't remember another one where we had to.

I remember long days. I remember like a six day shoot here and there. Sure, but a month, Yeah, that's you shoot a whole film in a month. Yeah.

But I think it's because of the location just being like unshootable, so they were just like piecing it back and forth.

I want to buy a house with a big backyard so that I could just tell film productions to just stay there all day and shoot. Yeah, pay me millions of dollars to use my house. It is the real hack. Yeah.

Yeah, but then you have people there all the.

Time, love people in your house. People they give you the cash for it. You're like, okay, right, I love all these people with all a I'll have a merch section right in the front so they can pick up some merch for their work. Yeah, speak of merch. Hey, Hannah, what do you want to do right now?

I want to break and then when we come back, I want to talk about party planning responsibilities that are in the episode between Nick and Schmidt, and then maybe for our place party and honest, hell, let's.

Go to break.

And we are back after you're just tuning in, Hannah, what would you say?

You know what's use? Every time you say and we're back, it makes me think of like the old school, like hypnotists and you're back in the room.

That's right, and you're a chicken. Yeah. I've never been hypnotized by the way me either, and I don't want to be. I don't trust it. Yeah, they're gonna make me do some weird stuff.

It's a weird thing, though, because part of me truly feels like it's all fake. Yeah, everyone's acting and fake and going along with a bit. But then I also would never do it.

I've tried.

Have you really tried.

Yeah, they couldn't get you. They No, they couldn't get me. Nobody can give me these these spiritual mediums, these hypnotists, even magicians don't want to fuck with me. Magicians make me nervous. That's another thing for another day.

You guys, okay, find party planning responsibilities. Schmid gives Nick bodies and balloons.

Yes.

The execution of those two responsibilities also maybe one of my favorite parts of this episode.

What's funny about that one in particular is it's so Nick it is such a nick thing to bring the filthiest toilet.

And buy it. He bought it from the trash yard of the porter partty rental spot still paid for it. It was from trash. They still got sixty bucks out of them.

Same guy. This again, This is but this is right on brand with him. You know, he's the i'll do it myself person, the simple fix, the weird mechanism in the bathroom to get the toilets to the flush. The later episodes you see, you know, his rental schemes with moving vans and all kinds of stuff, real apps, you know, things like that. But this one definitely makes sense. Yeah, Lo, he felt bad. I felt bad for or Schmidt in that moment because why because everybody's got friends that's just not responsible. Yeah, And you're like, man, I feel bad, Like I have friends, for example, that I don't like to invite places sometimes because I'm like they're gonna do something to embarrass me, and then they always do. And then there are moments where you're like, oh, I should invite such and such and then you realize like, no, I'm not going to invite them because they always and you feel bad about it.

Like they're gonna do something out of pocket.

Yeah, because they just can't help it. Nick just can't help but put some bullshit together.

What's funny is that usually then Schmidt has a big reaction to it, like he's so frustrated. And this is the most loving episode because Schmid' says like, all right, man, I we kept saying I'm proud of you. Yeah, good job, and I got this back up and it flipped. It was then Nick that was like so hurt by the fact of like, but I did it. I did a good job, and if it's good enough, this should be good enough. And then he's loitering outside of like the stinky, gross porta potty, which is also like not the not what you want. So I've come in the little box.

Well I've done. I've loaded outside of porta potties for other reasons, but I haven't I'm done with college. But no, no, it makes a lot of sense. But I do think Schmidt. I think the reason Schmidt was kind of like whatever about it because he made backups for everything. Yeah, it was like, I know you're gonna screw this up. Correct, I know you're gonna screw this up.

And I got you yeah. Yeah, and the hot air balloon made me laugh too, because he was like, well I got one, and then he still managed to screw the whole thing up by not getting the propane.

Would you get in a hot air balloon? No?

I don't like them. I don't like the idea of them. I'm not into them. I think it's weird. I feel like because of that, somehow the algorithm has figured out how to send me every hot air balloon death. Not into all. God, it's so weird.

Would you hell? No, I don't get a roller coaster. I don't even like to jump high.

No.

That's why I stop playing basketball. Yeah, because when I get up there sometimes I'm like, OK, how am I going to get there?

Fall flat ability? No, I don't get it at all, Not for me. Roller coaster where you go like upside down and are hanging in some weird contraption that runs over and over and over again.

Hard pass Yeah yeah, Final Destination. That movie is a documentary. All those deaths are have happened and have occurred in real life. So no, no hot air balloon for me.

No, yeah, No, I ain't risking nothing.

Now Jess, she wants to meet this guy she wants to meet Jackson and when Winston is like, it's shocking, how how against this he is because he wants to be friends with him. Two things that were going through my mind when rewatching it. One, this is no not because I think these are the greatest writers. Yes, ever, they just I think that was a shitty I thought it was terrible, Like it was a terrible It was a terrible character arc for Winston. It just was weird. I think I thought the lines were weird and maybe hard to say, and and I felt personally this goes back to something we've spoken about in season one as well, how I was so not there yet with the rest of the cast, with every I think everybody else was clicking. And I was like, as I was watching this episode, I was like, Jesus Lamar, this is a bad performance. Like it just was. It just was. And I even talking about it, I'm like, do I want people to go back and rewatch this episode? No, Yeah, to start from season three and on. That's kind of how I feel about some of my performances in this season.

It's so funny how you see yourself when you watch it back. Because I completely understood the bit because here's the way it went in my brain. And now tell me if it makes more sense to you. You went to meet me at a bar, right and you walked in and you had just met him, okay, at some whatever event, and he was like, cool, I'll come kick with you with Lebron m And now you're about to get to sit down and kick it with Lebron. And I was just like, you haven't said a word to him yet, you're just about to. And he's like there to nerd out about all things basketball, and I'm like, oh, he's cute. I'm gonna go over and see if he wants to like like like, i'd be like, it's baking, and I think you'd be like you need to back up. I would like, this is not what this is about. This is about me, and this like childhood dream happening. Could you just move away?

Yeah? I had You know what, when you put it in that when you put it in that light, I still disagree.

Really, you'd like you'd let me hijack.

No, Brian, Yeah, a little a little bit, a little bit. And here's here's why I understand the idea behind Okay, this is my like I want to be friends with this person. Yeah, but if you're trying to be friends with a professional athlete, yeah, the best way to do it. I've had this happen before. I'm not gonna name names. Maybe I could, actually I know I'm not gonna name names. Friend of mine played for the Clippers. I was at a party once with another friend of mine, an actress. I didn't know him at the time. The player. He comes up to me, and I'm a huge fan of this person. And he comes up to me and he said and he was say, hey, that's your friend, and I am Immediately I went into like, oh, I get tickets mode, right, I went into selfish mode.

You're like, this is transactional, right, but it's a win win win for everybody.

Sure, she gets the man of her dreams. He gets the woman of her dreams. I get the seats of my dreams.

And this is a hijack in this episode. This is a hijack. Yeah, right, You've already got your FaceTime. You're about to now have the conversation you've been waiting for. He's kicking in the bar with you. Yeah, you don't need any in You're in. And I was about to be taken you're about to be out.

Yeah, no, just because this give me. I'm a guy, you know what I mean, I know, I know how it is. I don't want to be sitting up there.

It's a very mature response, actually.

Cuddled up with some six foot five guy making me look like little spoon. You know what I'm saying. I'm the top.

Okay, I got it, all right, Okay, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on.

Nobody, nobody bottoms me by bottom them.

That's not going on the merch.

This is Yeah, that's not a shirt logo.

No, it's not a shirt logo. Yeah, nobody, don't make that into a meme. Don't send this out to anybody. Oh God, iver doing video.

That's when you fucked up. That's right. Video.

We need to talk about this proposal. Yes, it has been making me crazy. I had forgotten because everybody thinks about like the big Taylor Swift wedding, the big season finale. I had genuinely forgotten until I rewatched how CC got proposed to by Hivrang. Yes, and it is the absolute worst thing. Yeah, like if they had to dig the writers for like, what's the worst way you could get proposed to because it's an arranged marriage, so the moms have said we're cool.

Yeah, so like what.

Are we even doing? And I think that's what he was thinking, is just sort of like eh, like it's done.

Have you seen the Gucci Main proposal? No, so Gucci Main rapper is at Atlanta Hawks basketball game and he's sitting on the floor with his fiance at the time, his girlfriend, and the camera goes on to them and he pulls out a ring. She's sitting next to him, and he goes like this. He just kind of goes here, you want this, Like he just answer the ring. It was like, yeah, that that's bad.

On the kiss cam. You don't even get the kiss. You don't even get the engagement on the kiss cam. How did How would she know it's a proposal as opposed to just like jewelry like a gift, like I'm this rich and here's.

She probably asked, Probably knew. You know, women know when y'all getting proposed to you.

I would just be like you didn't say, what do you what I do? Thank you for the for the jow, worry for.

This huge diamond ring? Yeah on the kids camp.

Well you haven't said anything to indicate that this is other than just like a gift. I'd just be like, thank you by unless you ask me for something.

Can we pull that up? Not now, obviously, but can we show a clip of that if we could find it?

Okay, so it's Gucci mane then shivering. I just want to know it's not the worst.

It's not the worst.

It couldn't get worse.

It's not the worst. Because I understand where he's coming from. It was an arranged thing, and he was like, do I propose because someone else has made this decision for me?

It's like the decision has just been made, so everybody's cool, like, so should we like, should we actually do it? And I think that's where her heart like breaks a little bit, because she'd always had this idea of what it would be like and to be like, I know that this proposal is happening, and because Schmid's character is so over the top, so to go from someone with that energy to someone who's just be like, we cool, yeah, is that's like, that's that's the rollercoaster.

Well, the thing is he it's it's it's it's disingenuous if he does some big proposal because you also see it coming. You know it's happening. It's not a shock, it's not do you do you feign surprise that you just go, oh my god, I didn't know if this was happening. You knew what was happening because your parents talked about it.

The truth of relationships is sometimes you do have to fake it.

I don't want to know what's going on in your house.

Sometimes you got to just sit there and put in a little more effort on things. You know what I'm saying. And so I feel like with this proposal, look, it's not the like the most romantic, like you know, path that we have taken. I can see how hard you are resisting to say something inappropriate, and I appreciate it.

I'm not gonna say it.

I know I appreciate it. I will, I can see it, I see it. Your thoughts are allowed.

I just say this. I've never faked it. For all the women out there, I was always real with you when I said I was done.

Okay, all right, we're talking about romantic gestures. Let's just stay on the same page here.

Oh sorry, I get carried away. I sometimes think this is the morning after piscat I know.

I know it's just going to do like a star wipe and then we're going to be in another podcast and then we'll be talking about different things. Yes, I feel like so they're on this thing, and I think she just wants to feel like this is not just going to be like a business arrangement. Is there something there? Can I feel something real that's romantic and whatever? And if there's going to be any moment, it's the decision that we're going to spend the rest of our lives together. And it's a huge nothing burger. Yeah, And I think she's just like devastated. But then the sweet part of this episode is that he sees it and actually then Trice.

He does. He does, and to my surprise, CC was surprised, Yeah, because she actually thought it wasn't gonna happen in the fashion that she had imagined. And this is why Chifrang is such a good guy until later there's the worst guy. Yeah, but then you know we ultimately see like, Okay, he's he's putting in some effort here and given the circumstances, he still really wants this besides it being arranged.

Yeah, but it's one of those moments too. When you see CEC's face at the end, it's like, be careful what you wish for. Now, it's big, it's out there, it's public, it's loud, everyone's seen it. And here's what I really think is that he did that and it's really earnest and she's still.

About nothing exactly, because when you say it's interesting, you say, be careful what you wish for. You ask for something and get it. Same with Jess. She asked for this guy. She asked to get kissed by some strapping young hunk and he comes with a lot of baggage. And then right after Chivrang leaves the stage, he gets on the stage to do another speech. That's and she can't hide her emotions as well as Ceci, and she just runs away while saying no.

Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the part I thought was like a nice parallel that they put in the episode, as both of the female characters has been really specific and asking for what they want from a man and what they want from their relationships, and it was not Nick and not Schmidt. And then in this episode, by the way, where the a story is all about.

Nick and Schmidt.

Yes, these women get what they ask for and it's a nightmare.

It is a nightmare, indeed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, So we are going to go to break in when we come back.

You got something for me? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and I hope we can't prepare it.

See if we've got the bear.

And we are back listeners, if you're just tuning in, Hannah has spotted something I believe, or maybe she hasn't.

Or maybe she hasn't.

Hannah, Yeah, did you found the bear this week? Bears still bear listen?

I looked, I looked, I watched, I rewatched, and then I did what I feel like is a fair bear cheat, which is then I go through reddits. I combed the flogs and it's the one episode that feels like we haven't found a bear. But I will say on this podcast when I say that, someone will then email or d emas and help me out. So this one I can't find it. If you guys find it, please let me know and then I will follow up and let everybody know where it is. And I believe, I believe that bear is there.

In every episode and I found it.

If you say your bear chest, I'll take it.

I have my bear chest out and I'm my bear chest out, but I found the bear is the tattoo on that guy's arm?

What?

Well? The bear who's arm? The guy? One of the guys she was dating a bear a bear tattoo on his own?

Is this true?

No? Absolutely not. I just made that up. But it could be true. It could be true. If you're out there.

Going, I wanted to believe it going. I'm really excited for a second.

Never trust me.

Well, speaking of surprises of watching this episode, the person who I thought was the dj M turns out as the lighting guy. Seeing the credits, is my dear friend Jimmy. What Jimmy who is on Not Dead Yet? Who plays Mason on Not Dead Yet? Is there sitting if the lights of the Redhead? Who says something like let me alone your Wang to Max. So I called Jimmy and I was like, tell me what you remember from booking the lighting guy on New Girl. I'll play for you, all right, So here we go. This is what Jimmy sient of remembering doing his big New Girl booking to play the lighting guy to get yelled at by Max.

So I don't really remember the whole auditioning for New Girl. That was like it went by so fast. I just don't remember the whole process, but it was probably pretty quick, to be honest, which is why I don't remember it. You know, you auditioned so many times and they start to kind of blur together. But I do remember my first day there. I got there and I went to hair and makeup, and the first person that was in hair and makeup was Hannah.

That was the first person that I technically met.

Now, Hannah was so quiet, not rude or anything, but she was just very quiet, kept to herself. You know, we probably said like a quick eye, but she was just kind of keeping to herself, very quiet, which is so funny now knowing her from doing not dead yet, because she couldn't be more outgoing and friendly and funny. So I thought, that's so funny now looking back, you know. So it was so funny.

Yeah. So it did hair and makeup and stuff.

And then I just remember that we were supposed to film at the park across from Fox, but it had rained so they had to push it, and so then when we filmed there was so muddy.

I just remember it being a messy.

But eventually, you know, we did my scene and I thought it went, well, you know, it's my character and the Schmid character interacting. He wants everything to be perfect, and he's being you know, crazy and neurotic with me, and I'm just not having it.

I have no patience for it. My character didn't want to deal with it.

But the funny thing is is that everyone thinks that my character was the DJ on that show, but I was actually a lighting guy. I was in charge of making the lights perfect for his big reveal. But when you watch it back and everyone who watches it, everyone who sees it and says something about it, they always go, you were the DJ.

You were the DJ guy.

And it's so funny because technically I was the lighting guy, which I don't care, like whatever, I'll be whatever guy you want me to be.

But yeah, so it was. It was a fun experience overall.

Yeah, Jimmy, I work with him every week.

He's the greatest. That's dope.

I was super surprised.

That's dope.

And it made me realize that New Girl truly was like the comedy Law and Order, but like of La out of New York, where everybody at some point who's like an awesome.

Rick Glassman was also a New girl. Yes, no, you work with Yeah, Rick, I forget what sees I forgot what episode? But Rick was I think it was Olivia, Mon and Jake were at a dinner or something like that and he was the waiter, or maybe it was Jess. It was like a three It was Nick, Jess and some maybe it was man Fox or during something. I forget something, we'll figure it out.

If you're a bunch of like not dead yet actors, just like embedded into the show.

Yep, I try to get Gina on a New Girl. She said, no, really, I made that up. I would have been great.

Yeh, Jesus was perst straight off from Jane the Virgin. It would have made sense.

So we are towards the end of this episode.

Yeah, celebrating friendship.

Celebrating friendship. We come to this conclusion where the gang is all they're hanging out in the hot air balloon.

Yeah, and she has to just has to out put her mouth on something that Nick has an aleth on and she likes.

It, and she can't do it. She just books it, she just runs it.

Which I kind of understand. Yeah, she tried so hard to do the thing, she couldn't do it. Yeah to Palette Cleanse. So she's still stuck, and Ceci's stuck. Everybody's stuck with the Nick and Schmidt situation.

And we always end up where we begin with this group together together, although you're off with Chevrange in the end.

Yeah, Satiya Baba man.

Yeah, what what a what a g I love Satya. He truly is.

I think he's really like old school friends with Liz. We'll have him on the We'll have him on the podcast and hang and he can tell his story. But they've known each other from time.

Very very nice shout out to Satia Baba. Satya, what are some of your favorite I have some lines in this episode that I think were very funny and irreverent and I think might have I don't know nowadays you might have issues writing these types of lines. But Schmidt all delivered by Schmid of course. Yeah. Uh. The one line where he sees first of all, he sees Jack's he goes, did you think you were Omar Epps? That is here in the uh that it never gets old to me. And every time I think of Omar Epps or see Omar Epps out and about, I always think of that. Yeah, I always think of that. And another line where he says to Chevrang, what is he calling Chevronk?

Yeah, he refuses to pronounce his name correctly.

And he goes, he goes, welcome to our country. Then he says, uh, we're having cow cow meat like beef.

You mean you're having beef tacos cow meat. Disrespect is intentional and blatant on your culture.

Oh my gosh, so funny. But so you know, for some reason you still love him. He's such an asswer.

It's the magic of Max. It truly is the way he delivers it, because he's so highly inappropriate.

Yes, and in real life he's not.

No, not at all.

This man writes children's books. Yeah that's true. Yeah, yeah, look at that. Yeah. Anything else we want to talk about from this one? About this episode?

Anything we should talk about? Oh, at the end where they do their little equals and then they brag about.

The flashback at the end is interesting when Schmidt and Nick are going back and forth because I can't tell if it was written or improvised, But the more I watch it I watched it back a few times, I believe they are improvising because when Jake says, I something about sexually. I get the girls. I know what the girls want, so I let I give it to him or something like that. That's a Jake Johnson for sure. That's a Jake Johnson thing. And watching Max respond to it, Yeah me too. Yeah really Yeah, but no, not really they I think I do believe because a lot of times those tags are improvised. Yeah, a lot of it's just like, just do something. Some moments that may not have made the cut, they add it to the end, some moments that are really funny, and I think I want to say they improvise that. I'm pretty sure. Actually.

The thing I really liked about those flashbacks too in this Tinfinity episode in particular, is this whole thing of like equals right, yeah, which is like they've had through their ten years. Someone's been up, the other one's been down, and it's all equals out. Yeah that's how I felt about it. Yeah, it was real sweet.

I know.

I just when I read that interview with Breton Dave and Is about how this was a trickier one and it felt a little thrown together. It's interesting to see the perspective of it. But I really like this episode. Everybody kind of got a little uncomfortable, but you saw like the core of the friendship and how they're like inescapable from each other. Yeah, which is like the heart of New Curls. Why people like it so much?

Handa, let's go to break Yeah, and when we come back, we got we got a we got a special little treat for everybody out there. And I'm not gonna be shirtless. Oh that's not the tree. And we are back, Hannah, what are we doing the mess around? Baby? We got to mess around. Come on, we got to mess around. So topic is, Yes, wedding proposals. Do you go big or do you do something smaller and more personal?

Big? I feel like you go big.

Let's see.

I think people forget that this is a real big ask, the big ask you're making of the other person, and it's kind of like the you're laying out the foundation of what they can expect romance wise from you for a lifetime. But we're like the high bar, like this is where we're at, this is what I got for you, this is what my heart feels for you.

I say big.

Oh, but here's the deal. But here's the catch.

Only go big if you know you're getting Yes, Yes.

Just just know that this is like a fun formality where you can really just express yourself and do it. Because if it's the tanging in the balance.

Yeah, here's the thing. If you go so big, yeah you you, you set yourself up for failure potential.

That's what I'm saying. You have to know it's a lock you.

I mean no, even if she says yes, because she's like, oh, this is how he is. Oh, this man is romantic. This man had a mariachi band in the bedroom. When we actually go to to do the thing and get married and stuff, now I gotta top that. Then once we get married, I gotta I gotta top all of that. That's right, not realistic. That's why people get divorced. So that's why Gucci just went yeah here, He's like, this is what you can expect for the next fit is sixty years. Take this ring. I'm gonna give you get better. Yeah, I'm you know what I mean. We forget about the fallout of some of these things because she she going there thinking that you you Romeo, and and then you realized that he little Romeo, no knocking, Little Romeo.

Just say a real personal person.

I love Little Romeo. Oh no, I said that. Yeah, low hanging fruit man. Another question, Yeah, ever had to give a bridesmaid speech or witness a really bad one?

Have you?

I feel like you have given one.

I've given many A couple of bad ones. Yeah, a couple of bad ones, intentionally bad. Did you share things that you should not have shared?

Yes? Oh you did not, So let me explain please. Buddy was getting married, but Chris was getting married, and he asked for two of us to give a speech co best men, me and my buddy Alex. So we had the bright idea that we were going to blindly write each other's speeches. So I was going to write his speech, He's going to write my speech. But it wasn't until the moment of speech time that we give the speech to each other.

And we had it like a Japanese game show, and it's you're asked to speak on love at these people's wedding.

Okay, yeah, because honestly, how selfish of you people out there getting married, How how selfish of you to make me put myself through the ringer with all this pressure to give a loving speech because you in love? Damn it, I'm not in love.

You are so you could have said this speech before you said yes, I'm just saying you said that. Then they would have been like cool, noted, I'm as that person.

No, I gotta prove a point point to prove Okay, my speech. I wrote a speech for Alex that was very racist. Wow, it's extreme. It was horrible. I want to take it that Alex is white, Alex Puerto Rican, and so Alex, as a Puerto Rican man, went up there and disrespected every culture and every person in that room. He was making fun of the elderly that were there, a lot of elderly there. And then when I got up there to read the speech that Alex wrote for me, all I did was speak about how I was a pseudo TV star and every other sentence started with you may have seen me and you know, And we didn't explain this to the crowd. We just went up there and did it.

How was the How was the bride's face?

She was a tears. She knows us, so she was in tears.

And okay, okay, okay, my mom was like this, Yeah, she was not raised this boy. So basically, you guys were the comedy act. Yes, you were giving like the loving wedding speeches. Everybody knew what they signed up for.

Yes, obviously, Yeah, for sure, that's fair, for sure.

Okay, except for except for great grandma.

Grandma, she fully insulted she did not survive, that we had rushed her to the hospital. Yeah, funerals that one around. She probably still with us. I don't know, okay, Okay, clearly Jackson this episode wasn't over his most recent breakup. How long after a breakup should you wait to get yourself back out there?

That's a very good question. It depends, Yeah, it depends. Like I feel like just in the episode could have easily made out with a guy and been fine, Yeah, right after her kiss with Nick, because she had a purpose with it. But in a romantic relationship that's ended and you're seeking another romantic relationship, you need to make sure that there's enough clear air. Yeah, And the thing is different for everybody.

Me, I like, we're talking about giving time between a breakup and a new relationship.

Me.

I'm already prepping for my next relationship before I break up with those.

It's what I'm trying to say, though, I think a lot of people they don't they're not leaving when when the relationship dies, they got a cold body in the house for a long time before then they move on.

So it looks like you, Yeah, they already.

Broke up in their breakfast and now you're out with this girl at dinner. That was quick, and it's like, no, I've been over you for like six months.

Yeah, I'll be cheating.

This is not a wedding speech. I don't know why you're getting so romantic with your confessions right now.

I just want y'all to know out there I ain't and if you decide to go down this road with me, be cheating. No, that's not true.

True, you are not a cheater.

That's not true. That's not true. I don't have it in me. I don't have it in me.

It's a lot of work.

It is because I remember names, that's right.

It's a lot of work around it. I'm just like, how much time do you have trust?

Babies cheat? I'm not working out like that. No, my body is old. I will cheat. I will I will hug cheat, I'll give up. I will hug the hell out of somebody else. Huh, because I can hug. You're a very good Yeah, there you go, that's true. Huh. Don't do the e R.

I really would. Is there a video of your wedding speech?

I can find one.

I mean I kind of need to see now if you are telling a bigger story than what happened.

Oh no, it's what happened. It's what happened. It's what happened. Yeah, so uh, there you have it, folks. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Mess Around with and Lamarne. We just reviewed Tinfinity to one eight and stick with us next episode. I'm not sure what we're doing next episode Hardening cock listen.

They're the best named episodes ever.

Am I wrong?

No?

Nineteen quick hardening.

Call?

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