Ring Ring, Ring Ring. May I please speak with Zoe. Oh hello, Lamarne, let's patch in Hannah. God, I forgot what it was like working with you guys. Hi, Eric, Hi, Hi, thanks for joining us. Oh, thank you for having me. I'm excited. Oh my gosh, dudeen An, I know it's been forever. I know, I know it's been the last time I worked with you. Guys, you were pregnant, Zoe. Oh my god, and I have My youngest is five now, so that's a long time. That's crazy. That's crazy, that's crazy. Um, So what's up. I'm so excited to talk about one of my favorite time episodes of New Girl. Yes, yeah, this is a personal top three. So much truly, I mean, so much awesome stuff going on. So wait, Eric, was this this wasn't the first one you did with us, or was it? Yeah, this was the first one because you did it quite a few Yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, yeah yeah. I did the one in the Bar, I did the flashback episode in the Bar, and then I did the one with Henry Winkler and Julie Haggardy Ar Yeah, oh my god, that was him talking about trains. But but yeah, this was this was my first one. This is my first one, very exciting. Remember do you remember getting the call or did you have fred? Like, how did you get on the New Girl director circuit? Yeah? I mean that was the year. It was kind of like my first year of directing a lot of at work TV episodes. I had done an episode of the Office the year before, and it was like that was like my first network TV thing, and then the following year that the Office episode is very well received, So like all of a sudden, like my dance card was full the following year, and yeah, it was really uh and then you came on over to the greatest show in television lest So yeah, it's it's it's all coming from Lamore inside the most humble you know. Yeah. I remember my first conversation though, when they when when I found out which episode I was doing it, they sat me down and said, so, we have to do a Ford commercial in this episode. You know what's funny. It's I remember actually you know when it came out, it kind of like people kind of saying something at it, but it's like it doesn't matter at all. It was actually nice that we were able to say a brand name because that's so what those things are. They're there to sell, you know. Yeah, And it just happened to be that we had this like kind of forward tie in, and it I think allowed us to have a bigger budget for the episode. Maybe I think so too. I think my question to you is, did you get credit for both directing a television show and also a commercial commercial reel? I did not, unfortunately though at iasted opportunity to my friend because it does it does feel like just it feels like a scene. It's so it's like very well integrated into the episode. Well, also, I get stuck in the car and fall out of the car show. Was that their pitch from Ford like they wanted to do a car show or was that just what the writers kind of came up with it gave to you. I think it's what just what the writers came up with. Like I remember Fox. I think it's that Fox like had this deal with Ford and all the shows like an American Idol. It was easier they just like Ford would do those little music videos that American Idol. And I think like all the Fox shows had to like work forward into something at some point. Yeah, I think that's how it was pitched to me. But it kind of worked too, I don't know better than there was another episode where I remember Lauren, I think you might. It was all the guys had to be like, this is so cool. We could open the trunks. There was there was, there were a few there were Yeah, was that Ford or was that something else? That it was the Foscape. I think that's what Damon called this car the fas Cape, the Ford Escape and then the rebranding courtesy of Damon. Um. Folks, if you're just tuning in, we have a fantastic show. We are recapping episode five of season two Models and you know, obviously you've been listening. We've got writer director Ericappelle. Now obviously he just spoke about all the things that he's done. But where are you now? Obviously because a new girl, we've we've turned your life around, an honest man out of you. Tell us about what you're working on now? Obviously some great things, working with some of my heroes. Yeah, I just um. I did a movie this past year for the Roku channel called Weird the Al Yankovic Story, which is a ya which is a like satirical biopic about Weird Al Yankovic that we co wrote together and I directed, and Daniel Radcliffe is um is stars as as weird Al himself and I actually it did. I just got a I got nominated for a DGA Award, which is funny because we're sort of, um, you know, it's like a satire of Awards movies and now it's like becoming a legit Awards movie, which is really funny for this town. Yeah. Yeah, so folks, Um, what we're gonna do now is we're gonna jump right into We're gonna do things differently, uh from what you've what you probably remember about the show. Um, so we're gonna recap this episode with the fantastic director Eric Cappelle. If you if you don't remember this episode, we encourage you to go watch it. But I'll dive right into it. It's CC's birthday and she's turning a young forty eight years old Forget Held, but our girl is torn between the decades old tradition of clueless and promtal addresses with with Jess and and and and living it up at the club with her model friends. That's right, Nadia's back. Nadia's back, and she's drinking vodka through her butt. What that is. But there's a lot there's a lot of but jugging. But if you folks all the episode, then you know what I'm talking about. I'm not just being weird like a normal lamb um. Now, when she tries to merge her two worlds, just gets her feelings hurt and she gets her boobs punched. Now, meanwhile, Schmidt and Nick, they're also at a crossroads in their relationship. Schmidt gives Nick a box of cookies, and the sincerity it throws Nick throws him way off. He just wants, you know, he just wants a turtle. That's it, and Schmidt is hurt that Nick doesn't think of him. Now, the next morning, Cecy wakes up two hungover to do her modeling gig, and Jess does not want her friend to get in trouble at work, so she offers to do the job you spoke about that earlier. Now, the negative perception of modeling is shattered when miss Day learns firsthand how difficult it is to wear heels at a rotating stage. I mean, come, mom, man, this is modeling t one. It's hard. I know how to do it. Everybody knows how to do it. That Jesse makes a terrible model obviously, but she remains a wonderful friend and it gathers up the courage to be vulnerable with Schmidt. Everyone leaves this episode better friends. And that's what happened in this episode. And also Winston was there. I think yes. Episode two oh five Models directed by the Eric Appella and written by Josh Malmouth his Wheelhouse Models. So what do you remember, Eric about directing this episode, m oh Man, I remember a lot about directing this episode. I actually there's actually a funny story about this episode that is like in a Pell family classic. Oh, we have to hear it. Um. So I don't know if you know this or remember this, but the Model Scout. There's a flashback scene where young Jess and young CC are approached by a model scout and that is my wife. That is that is yes, Oh my gosh. But the reason that it's such a funny story is my my wife at the time was doing a lot of acting, doing a lot of commercials, little bit parts on TV shows and whatnot, and she got the call to come in an audition to play this model scout. Now, no one knew that she was my wife for acting like her last name was different, like as an actress. Yeah, see, I was gonna say this was a whole meppo baby, So your wife now, so she told me. I remember her telling me like, I'm I'm I just got called in for your episode, like thank you, and I'm like, I didn't put you up for this randomly, you got called in to play the model scout. But I'm like, I feel it's weird. I pictured the mode scout to be like older and frumpier for some reason, right, So I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm like it just feels it. I don't know, it kind of feels like I'm like, you're more of a model type, you know, a day long. But anyway, I'm like, I'm not going to tell people. I felt weird about telling people that she was my wife, Like I didn't want to get her hired or anything, but you know, because or not hired, right, yeah, like you don't want to anyway you want didn't want any way. Um, but I did say, I'm like, don't so don't be bummed out if you don't get this, because I you know, I don't know if people like maybe everybody's picturing someone different in this role too. My question to you is do you do you? How do you direct her? Is it fine? Hands on, it's fine. I think it was fine. But but anyway, so I I I'm like, I'm not going to weigh in first, and Liz is the first person to weigh in and give her picks for the role, and she picks my wife first, and I was like, so then I chimed in and I'm like, hey, I didn't want to say anything but that Johannah Parker is actually Johanna Pelle. That's my wife. And I'm so glad that you, like organically, you know, came to this picked her on your own. Well, I actually will say that that's most of the time, Like I know people who like are model agents and stuff like that, and they're usually kind of really like put together and attractive and like, so I think I think that's it was the right thing which I came to, which like I came to realize because I have to. I have a ten year old and an eight year old daughter, and we've been approached at the mall of a couple of times, you know, by people who I think are just trying to get you to sign up for act classes in the By the way, my daughter's like they want me dad. This is like, you know, I actually have a funny story about this. Like in high school, I was like hanging out at them All with my two friends and this super creepy guy came over to us and was like, you guys should be models, and we were like, uh, you know, I was really skeptical because I was always suspicious. And I remember he was like, oh, some of your friends from He said what school do you go to? And we told him and he said, oh, some of your friends have modeled for me. And he had a book full of pictures and he had pictures of some girls from our class and we were like fifteen guys. It was very creepy. And then he gave us his card, and I remember my two friends were kind of like, oh, he thinks we're models. That's so cool. And I took the card and I hit it and I threw it away and my friend was like, oh, do you have that card? And I was like, oh, uh no, I don't have anymore. Because they didn't want anybody to get like catfish into like some kind of like you know, trafficking ring. You find out later that that man was Steven Spielberg. Yeah, that man was not that man was more like Jeffrey up scene. Yeah, but like very creepy. Yeah, like yet you gotta gotta watch out for teenagers hanging out them all by themselves. Wow. Wow. But yeah, So that's my that's like my main That's why this episode is so you know, so special to us at my house. But I remember I remember so much of it, and you know, watching it back, I watched it back last night and and you know, so many memories kind of came flooding back. It's so funny to know, you know, you watch a scene and you're like, that was day one. There's the first scene I shot. Well, it was the first scene that you shot at this episode. The first scene was um, after the cold open. It was the first scene of act one. It was Nick watching the Turtle, the Turtle documentary on tv UM and uh yeah, Jess comes comes in dressed up to go out for the birthday party. Oh yeah, how did you guys pick that outfit? This? What was it like Bellerina turnshop walker. I actually, that's so funny that you say that, Um, that was a dress I had at home. That was my dress? Really? And uh yeah, and it was like a dress that my my friend was a designer. And I love that dress. It's gorgeous, and I like, it's actually really like it's I don't know if it's like it's not like it's it's it's ready to wear, but it's like really it was a really nice dress. But um, I audit in because I knew that it was like a body condress that I felt like looked good at me. So I know they wanted like a body condress. So I was like, all right, I've got one. A body con dress is what is a body con dress? Body con dress is like a really form figure like tight dress. It's like Kim Kardashian. Yeah, it's something that has stretched to it um and is normally really tight. It's like a dress that has has some some some it's like a it's like a box of brief but for all over exactly exactly. But address that's yeah, that's nice. That's nice. That's what says. Yeah, every yeah, yeah exactly. Um And and I feel like, uh, that's kind of like what the Kardashians always wear. They're always in body con. So yes, that that dress. Yeah, and you know what I remember remember I remember so much about shooting this episode. Um like it felt like legendary to me, like our whole you know, like everything about it felt like legendary. But then what I realized watching I was like, oh, but the guys part of this episode was totally legendary too, Like give a cookie, Get a Cookie? Is like is one that a lot of people quote and are always asking, um, you know Jake and Max about all the time they I think someone thought I remember when we talked to Malmouth that a lot of people had thought that that was improvised, that give a cookie, get a cookie, Get a cookie, give a cookie. You know, um, that that was improvised, but it wasn't. Was written. Yeah, it's the cross section of you know, great directing, great writing, and great acting right there. Yeah, that scene, that was a memorable scene. I remember Jake like actually like real tears, like getting emotional moment like I And it was like pretty early in my directing career, and uh, you know I remember just like, wow, this is crazy, this is crazy. I didn't it was unexpected in that moment, but it was like really like I'm like, oh, he's like really going for it. Is amazing. Yeah. Yeah, the girls are flying fists and the boys are just crying, and moments like that when you're working with a guy like Jake Johnson, who we we come to note as a person who probably can't read. So I mean, and I say that in Jess, but he loves to improvise, like he loves it a lot. Now does that throw you off when you come on a show, you know, sort of like you said so early on your directing career, with a cast of people that love to improvise and a crew of writers and showrunner who love to improvise. How did you work with that? How did you deal with that? Yeah? Well, I mean luckily that's sort of so. I I came from the upright Citizens Brigade Theater like I started, Yeah, like I started at UCB in two thousand and two in New York and um, you know, was on like a house improv team there with like Ellie Kemper, and I kind of came up with that whole that that whole generation of you know, um, Adam Paley and Ben Schwartz and Aubrey Plaza and Donald Glover like those were all my you know class and improv class back in the early two thousands. So um, and I honestly, I think that's kind of what got me hot. Like I was sort of the new face in like directing you know, network TV comedy, and there was so much improv across a lot of shows from the office. I did have a lot of happy endings episodes as well, and yeah, um yeah, because I was someone that could just get in there and like roll with the improv and pitch new things and just like I kind of knew how as it's just the world I came from, like a very collaborative, uh comedic world. Were you allowed to pitch a lot of stuff here on our show? You know, there's some certain parts, um, the Russian cartoon, you know, the monkey Cracker thing, like there was an animation to it really does look like me. Really, I really do resemble that. That was so that was so good. Um and like the music that Ludwig wrote for it, and um, yeah, that whole monkey Cracker. You know, it's funny. There's a part in the episode there's like this dance monkey part. I'm like, I wonder if the song dance Monkey. You know that song dance Monkey? Have you ever heard that? Oh, there's there's this like pop song from a couple of years ago called Dance, Monkey and Dogs. Really, I'm like, I wonder if this was somehow influenced by like this episode where she's telling Jess dance. But yeah, the monkey. Were you involved in like directing the animation or did that just come fully packaged to you? No, the animation was like a fun surprise for me when I saw the episode The Circle. I actually remember Josh Mammoth like coming up to me like when we were shooting later, because they were like still working on the animation, like while we were shooting it, but like a few episodes later, was like, do you want to see the monkey cracker thing? Yeah? And I was I'm like, I've never I never knew how much I looked like a Russian monkey. Yes, because I can think, like, how am I? How are they going to make this monkey look like me? And I'll go, oh, okay, I get it. Yeah, it's all the eyes. It's the eyes and the banks. Its eyes and the banks. The monkey really had really good banks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the eyes and the banks do all the heavy lifting. Yeah, truly, Eric, I have to ask you about meeting Rebecca who plays Nadia for the first time. Um, were you surprised by her when she changed from her beautiful British accent into her crazy Nadia accent? Did she improve any of those crazy lines in that cold open Um? Yeah. I mean I can't remember what exactly she she improvised or what was thrown out to her in the in the moment, but the transformation of her getting into that character, yeah, it was pretty amazing. Yeah, and so funny the random things that you know, come out of her character's mouth and and um, yeah, she was so such a blast to work with. There's that really funny moment with the um uh, the Wilmer vild rama. Yes, but I remember her like the accent on saying his name was really funny. It was just like a slight Yeah. Yeah, I can't remember, but it was. What was great about that is that that was a callback from this from one. Oh yeah, that's just mentioned. She mentions him about all the things about America that she likes. I think that was what the bit was, and Wilmer Valderrama was one of them, and it was to see that she meets she meets a guy at a bar who pretends to be Wilmer to go home with her. One thing that I found interesting about this episode was, and I want to question you guys about this, the the relationship between Nick and Schmidt. Nick being uncomfortable, He's uncomfortable and weird it out that Schmidt thinks about him. Is that is that weird to you guys, that your friend would tell you that they think about you often. That's friendship. That's yeah, that we're very thoughtful about each other. We say I love you to our friends all the time, we said think about you, what we said miss you. I mean, it's it's very I think I think it's a guy thing. Maybe the notes all the time. I don't know. You tell us from a male perspective, Yeah, would you think it was weird? Yeah, if your friend was like, I think about you, like, but you're I feel like you have a lot of female friends, Murne. We think about you, We think about you, and we think about yeah you. Yes, I do have a lot of a lot of female friends. But I have a lot of male friends. And you know, I have a list. I have a list of of men that I think about and it's a very it's a very short list. Jesus, and that's that's my brother, Jesus, I think my brother. I think at my brothers all the time, right, Yeah. And then Lebron James, that's your friend, Lebron, my personal, close friend, Lebron personal. Yeah. I think for me, like in my not now that I'm in my early forties, I feel like I'm more maybe in touch with my emotions with male friends and would be able to say things like I think about you. I feel like, you know, younger when I was single, and you know it just yeah, it's I think maybe it would have been weird. I think. I think the dividing line is one you're a dad, you can say I think about you, but before maybe yeah maybe not yeah, not that you can or can't, But I just mean maybe a guy who's a dad has like an emotional perspective that's different from like a single guy. You know. Yeah, sure they're in the struggle and they see someone else in the struggle and they're just reaching out across the divide. Yeah, bets are off once you're a dad. It's funny that, um, but that storyline is so great. I mean I love that. Just kind of the commentary on masculinity and men male friendships and told in such a simple way, Like that entire story takes place in the apartment. It's all metaphor too. It's like a hundred percent like it's like the cookie is the metaphor for thinking of someone, Yeah, and then the turtle or the tortoise is the metaphor were like, you know, friendship or whatever. It's It's it's nice you could definitely um yeah. I mean I felt like both the kind of guy storyline and the girls storyline we're both little like one act plays, I know. But the thing I forgot about it is really the whole episode is answering the question would you still be friends with them if you met them today? And that's what both Naked and Jess are facing, right. I thought I forgot that that that was a thing that joined it together. Would you judge a friend that became a model, right, Like? Would you? Yeah? I'm asking you now, I'm happy if someone is happy. I'm like, I'm happy for you. Yeah. But it's funny, you you you get why. It's like more like Jess's like, it's like you gave from a protective place, a protective because she knew her as a kid, and that's not how she thought of her. I think, you know, that's right. I think that for people. Yeah, I wouldn't judge someone who became a model, but maybe like if you're friends with somebody from when you're you know, seven years old, and you know, you think you're the same, and then one of you ends up becoming a model, and then there are a lot of kind of like surface level things that go into that. But but vot could drink it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of it I think is like the circle that that person exactly. Yeah, yes, we see that, and we see that come to like in this episode when you're trying you're trying to fit in a little bit with her friends. Oh yeah, to see you know. I thought that was a very fun funny, interesting scene. Talk about that a little bit. Even from the creation the standpoint, Eric, there's the dancing, the mocking, it was also funny to me. And then the boob fight, Like, I have so many things to say about this boobfight. Yeah, the boot fight is really great. Do you remember Zoey they offered us um, I don't know if you remember this, Eric, if we needed any protection. Oh yeah, I was like, I think we're okay. Both are like I think we're fine. We're not, but they weren't. You didn't have pads for that. No, but I do remember being offered like, do you need any protection around your boobs in case you I think. I was like, I think we can figure out how to fake this to look real, we're not really fall off. And you know it worked because my friend I watched the episode last night with a buddy of mine. Um, and he and and he knows that I'm you know, like prepping for the recap, and he goes and he goes, Um, he goes, I need to know how bad that hurt. He goes, and I said, the pads on. Guys think that boobs like hurt more than they really. Yeah. Right, don't you think, Hannah, that they get this idea that there's some correlation between like boobs and testicles they're very different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that they're that or they think it's like they're they're junk that like boobs are like that. I think there's that confused sensitive on that level. That's right. But I also think that we have trust that nobody's gonna punch anybody, because I remember seasons later when I had to do the scene um where I kick Nick Ceci kicks Nick in the dick right, and I was like, we're gonna fake it, like there's this or I punched him. I punch him in the deck and in a bar. I remember that. And they asked Jake, They're like, do you want to cup? And I'm like, oh my god, it's just a fake thing. And he was like I want to cup and I was like, bro like in case, oh no, neither Zoe or I wanted patting or protection puts off to post production and the folly artists on this this was like, I I can't say enough how much the um the post production sound had to do with the comedy of the scene. Like it's a super funny scene that works and is written really well, directed really well. It's funny, but it doesn't work unless you have that like slap slap, slap slap. Because there was no sound. It doesn't make a lunch, it doesn't make any sound. Yeah, but the sound makes it just it just makes it funny because I always thought boobs had sound. And my favorite part is it is which which was improvided just kind of came out in the moment was when you start going what you start yelling water at each other. What oh, because that's what guys do right when they're mad. That's right, we brought up in that h what what what? Um? The other weird memory that came flooding back to my mind is that I think they were setting up for the boob fight because we were doing it downtown right in this like weird it was warehouse. Yeah, it was so gross. And I remember Liz was there and Josh was there, and you were and I was we were just hanging out and I feel like Liz just like lit up like a Christmas tree and you were standing there to Zoe, I feel like, and it was we'd just gotten confirmation, um that Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner were going to play your pants. Wow. I remember that moment and I had to sit down. I was like, are you joking? That to me was just like the hugest casting of like these huge You were like, these are the Chist wind chimes. These are the Kist wind chimes. If anybody who gets that gets that and fans, um, yes, I'd call my like, I'd call my parents. I was like, oh my gosh, like our show. I just felt like, which was a great show and it was beloved. But I was like that just like elevated the whole thing, and I was going to be sitting in a room with these two incredible people and maybe they'd come back and keep being the parents, which they did. But I remember that moment setting up for a slat boob fight in a downtown wherehouse and hearing that these two huge, you know, movie people were going to join our show. Rank your level of excitement when you heard about them being cast versus when you heard about me being cast in the show, rank Like, they're different things, and now I know what they are. Kid. I was gonna say, there's some really funny stuff, um that I loved the Pops back with the like models and stuff like Eric talk about that, um like just the flashback because I thought it was so funny. They had the well there's the one who table. Yeah, I like table, table is flat? Yeh, yes, the table is flat. Yeah. I can't I can't remember where we shot that. It's so funny. Little Pops like building a set just for like one little that's apart. Yeah yeah, I remember, yeah, because we shot it on the same day. We just like flipped it a little bit and we shot it on the same day Cold Open. Yeah did that was was that girl that played the model? That was her only episode she was in right or she yeah? But they were all well yeah, and then the other girls who are the models in uh in the warehouse scene and we're really funny and everybody like totally committed to this like model stereotype that yeah, yeah, yeah in a funny way, like really being like the sidekick of sidekicks of Nadia, Yes, and just being terrible to jets. Yes, monkey monkey dance. Yeah. That's always a fun thing to for people to play. Is just like they're being terrible to just but they don't even realize how terrible they're being. Like they're having the time of their lives and Jess is just like absolutely crushed by what they're doing to her. It's like a really fun tone to hit. There's a moment in this which I found it be very very interesting and weird at the same time. Um, well, Jesse, Jess, and ask the guys if you know one of the guys, I know what, I know exactly what you're gonna say. And she asked the guys. She's like, oh my gosh, you guys, did you guys watch porn together again? Yeah, it's always so awkward, it's so it's such a weird thing. I don't I have never done that. I'm gonna just say it now, Eric, haven't done that with guy friend. No, that's a very private experience. No, that would be so weird. But it's so funny. I would love to know what, Like if Josh like, who, Who's who pitched that exactly because it's such a fun I mean it, texts him right now and ask Josh if he's ever watched with a friend the level of weirdness, the level of weirdness that the cookie brings up. Yes, is the level of weirdness that watching porn amongst friends would bring up. And that is a high level of weirdness. Yeah, so I think it's a I think really it's commentary on how weird the cookie made everybody. Well that can't Yeah, I love. And then all the details that also come out about Schmidt, like aside from the cookie, the other things that he does that you never get to see, Like there's a joke about him doing turndown service, like every night, Yeah, he puts a chocolate on his pillow, like you don't like the chocolate. No, I love the chocolate. Oh I guess they just eat themselves then yeah. Um, and then you get to see a flashback. I think Nick, Nick and Schmidt's uh the first time they met, right their origin story? Yeah about that, yeah, all of that talk. Yeah, Nick's got that mustache. He's like he looks like a deadhead. You know, he's like a tie eyed. He's got this weird mustache. I think he has a Fannie pack on as well. Um. I remember what was really fun was their um, you know, their their dorm room that you got to see because it's the same. It was also one of the really really fun things for me about directing the show is like, oh, I'm like the first show I did was The Office, but then this show it was like, oh, everyone's my age, Like I'm making a show, you know, I'm directing a show about yeah, my age. So the college flashback, it's like, oh, this is when I was in college, and this dorm room looks like my dorm room. Yeah, you know, like there was a fight club. Nick had a fight club poster on the wall and you know, yeah things. Yeah, how much did you get to inform like their wardrobe or that whole dynamic that kind of happened or how Schmidt looked or was that all Liz? I think that was all. I think that was a lot of Liz. Like I you know, I had a little bit of input on just yeah, some of the some of the things in the room and what the room looked like. Um, but I remember when we shot the scene, you know, there was there was just a really long like there was so much improv in that's we just kind of let those guys go like once you get you know, Schmitz in that costume and like, yeah, they're just both in these lives. A lot of inspiration, a lot of scope for the imagination there. Yeah. Yeah, Like I can't remember what exactly was scripted and what wasn't. But Schmidt was eating hard ramen, like just the noodles, like crunching on ramen noodles. Um, I've seen people do that. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah, Nick's like throwing them in his mouth, but try to get him to catch them. One. There was like a gag reel or something or does it play during the end credit the body slammed? Yes, yeah, yeah, they the body slam is actually in the episode. But but at the end they're they're like, just there was just like so much gold catch throwing the food out of his mouth. I think that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there was. There was so much, so much gold in that. Do you remember that that cake Dude's part at the end was like a reshoot? Yeah? I did not, I did. I was you were there because I remember actually remember that, like and I will say, I actually believe this to be like a perfect episode, but that that piece they were like trying to figure out how to make the end work exactly, and so they all kind of came together, and that Jake really didn't like the cake dudes part, and that he talked about cake dudes for like years afterwards. He was like, and then it's just cake dudes, Like he was cake dudes as a thing. But I remember we shot it really fast, like you weren't even there, which is crazy. We shot it really fast at the end of some like other episode, like when we were shooting another episode. They were just trying to find, you know, the ending that they could you know, that would fit in you know, twenty one minutes and thirty five. I can't can you remember what the original ending was it was a scene it was everyone around the table. It was around the table maybe or something, and there was cake there. I don't remember, but yeah, it's funny. I don't remember what the original one was, but it probably haven't. You know, they used to send you a DV director's cut. Oh yeah, it was probably too long because like you like, everything lived and died by this, like twenty one minutes and thirty five seconds, and everything was like that. I mean, it's still true and network TV today, but but like now, we watched so many shows that are on streamers and you know, cable and everything. But but it's like it had to be over by then, and and there was no wiggle room. I remember that this one was kind of tough in editing to get it down to time. I betguetop and it gives why Sage advice from over the screen. Um, but there was um yeah, I remember. I want to say that my director's cut was like seven minutes over time or something. Oh wow, really long because I because the so much episode real estate was taken up by that by the car show, which is this big set piece. Yeah, I remember we talked about it, um Zoe being like you're like a real Lucille Ball moment. Yes, And I was so I loved how that, Like I thought it was so much fun to do and to work on. And I also have to give props to Monica Brauner, who's my stunt double. Ye, she's absolutely amazing and like anything that was like unsafe for me to do, Like she just was like so there in game and she would like always like watch me get my body language right and then could be so funny and then do something totally dangerous at the same time. Yeah, but that was such a fun sequence to work on, and I m I actually I also U the two like the car announcer and then I actually know one of those guys who was like the car rob ryness. He's really funny guy. Um but yeah yeah, and another guy who's like announcing I don't remember that actor's name, will have to have to get it, but um they when he's announcing, he's he's like trying so hard to keep it professional, but I'm so unprofessional. My eye is like like, uh yeah, that was such a funny thing that like the eyelashes were too heavy for your own Like Jess is so out of her element as a model that like she can't even handle, like she has weak eyelids, weak eyelids. But it is true because I actually know friends that like don't wear makeup at all, and if you try to put makeup on them, they're so confused. You know, it's like it really throws Stump off their game. But it's also like the heels too. They also put me in the highest possible doesn't make a comment to about it. He's like, what's on your face? Oh? Yeah, that on your face? So I just got Connor actor that played the Okay, yeah, well he was great too. You know a lot of really great people in this episode. I just got a text from Josh. I'm about the watching porn with your uh friend platonically? So I said, who pitched the watching porn together with a platonic friend? Joke? Did this happen to someone? And he goes, I don't remember who pitched it. It's a good point though, um, And I said, did this happen to you ever? You know he's got to ask and he said, no, it has not. But it's funny and I feel like you see it reference in movies. Guys will be like, let's go watch porn and it sounds horrible. Yeah, I can imagine that being an enjoyable experience unless you're friends at porn star and you're just critiquing the work as one does. Yeah, are there porn critics like, yeah, they have the award show. I think they got the award show. I've never heard their peers though. The thing about it is though, like when you you know, if watching porn, like getting turned on or something, is like a vulnerable moment, you know what I mean, like you can't control it, And I think like if that's what the awkwardness is about, it's like, oh I feel too exposed, Like yeah yeah yeah, like music, okay, yeah, it's like a sixth grader getting like a boner in sweatpants. Questions you brought like that just brought back. Yeah, yeah, I know. My daughter's yeah, my daughter is in fifth grade, my eldest daughter, and uh yeah, it's like the year when like the sex aid and stuff starts to happen. Oh no, she's come from in school. She's like, Dad, have you heard of a boner? Do you know what that is? A kid had a boner? In six six? They have like trapper keeper so that they could just down the hull. I'm like, if that sixth grader knew that you were at home telling your dad he had a boat at school, he would never forget it for the rest of his life. Die. Yeah, that's like one of those memories from inside out, like Turns and the core memories. Hey, guys, do you know what time it is? It's mean alert time moments. Maybe once in a while, there is something that will happen in a scene of a movie or a TV show that will shatter the walls of said show, something that will stand out in a project so much so that fans will refer to that scene and not even have seen the show. Now, in this episode, we've stumbled across another iconic moment in New Girl history, and we've already spoken about it. This one is truly a fan favorite. Gave me Cookie, Got you Cookie? Now that that meme is a shorthand for wanting to express fond emotions but being unable to do so in a straightforward manner. So let's talk specifically about the filming of that scene and some of the things that you remember. The type of cookie that was apparently that's a very special cookie, black and white cookie, black and white cookie. I thought maybe he would have given the cookie to me. Yeah, it was a black and white cookie that he bit into a star of David. So it's like the gesture is it's just such so misguided. The sentiment is there, but he went about it the wrong way. Now, I remember, Zoe, you said that it was that that was scripted, That wasn't an improvised moment scripted. Yeah, it was all scripted. And I remember specifically Jake in um because people have asked about that moment a lot in like, you know, I remember Q and As and I remember people saying, like people always asking if that moment was improvised, and always Jake Johnson was like, no, that's Josh Malmouth all the way. Who was by the way, when we started New Girl, he was a junior writer, like he had only I think done been on one other show, and like first I remember it was like I was like, this guy is hilarious and just so fun and like like game, you know, he's just he's a fun He's a fun writer to work with. You know, have you guys seen this meme go around? Have you have you seen this eric at all? I have seen it I've seen it in the wild a couple of times, and I'm always like tickled to see that pop up. Yeah, I mean I think quite a few times i've seen it pop up and yeah, I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that, um the cookie thing at the table read killing, Like I remember everyone Fox and twentieth and I remember everyone just saying, like, no notes, you know, like after the table read, you discuss everything they give notes on on, you know here little things you know, to change in the script or or to plus up and focus on a little bit more. And I remember it was like the gimme cookie, got you cookie, the cookie thing, we no notes, excited to see it, and also like set the foundation so deeply for the rest of this series for the audience to understand how deeply these men love each other, you know, in a spoken way, like Jake had to say it, you know, Nick's character had to say it. And I just feel like that was something that just set up so much comedy then and so much stuff that was just understood by the audience and for the rest of the series, which is why it feels so important to the show. Yeah, to see Nick get vulnerable in a way like that, Like he makes fun of Schmidt for um crying earlier in the episode, and you know, then then then he starts crying. You know, it's like such a great moment aside from being hilarious, it's like just works on an emotional level. Yeah, exactly, such a great scene. Should we dive into a little True American? Yes, we're back and it's time for True American regular listeners. No, we've switched up the game a bit when we have a guest for the show and now we try to get the truth of their experience on the show. Eric, are you ready? In episode one of season two, Schmidt decides to throw a party after he gets his penis cast off to announce he's ready to have a sex again, which just saying that as ridiculous, and the guestless includes a writer from Cranky Anchors. Was that writer you? And would you attend Schmidt's party? That writer was not me? Unfortunately, I'm sure I love a party. I will. Who is the crank Anchers writer? I remember this episode and I watched it recently, but I don't remember them saying I think they he said the right writing staff from crank Anchers. I think. So there were always those like lists that were funny. Yeah, but you would go to Schmidt's Penis m casts cast on Vailly party. I mean would you have to know Schmidt to attend? I mean I would go if I barely knew him. I like putting myself in situations that will yield a story that I can tell me too. Yeah, so funny. A lot of people have this are like, have so much social anxiety, and I'm not. It's not that I don't, but I love an awkward moment, Like I love if I can have an awkward moment, like I'm excited about it. And so if I get invite to a party where I know nobody, I kind of am like, oh yeah, yeah, i'd be I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that party, and you know, sort of yeah in the corner on my phone. Yeah, exactly, exactly, low expectations of you when you're that guy at the party. I can't be at an awkward party. I can't. I hate awkward and uncomfortable situations. Um. I met Julia Louis Dreyfuss once at a party and she was talking to me. We were having a conversation, but because because I was so nervous around her and uncomfortable because I had never met her before that I stopped talking to her and turned around and walked away because I panicked. I panicked. I was like, she's gonna find out that I'm stupid, Like she's gonna know that I'm an idiot. And then I just left and my sister was like this, It was like, why would you watch? What's wrong with you? I don't know. I didn't know what to do. She was talking to me, and you know, that's like a little like a little stagnant part of the conversation and now it's your turn to participate, and your brain's like get out, get out, get out. Your flight or fight started going, Yeah, that's not horrible because it's a great story. Actually, something embarrassing just happened to me. And I was like very kind of actually kind of excited to maybe tell you guys about it. And this feels like a good moment that I was like. In my neighborhood, I walked past a coffee shop and I saw Don Cheetle, who I know and he's like one of my favorite actors ever, and so like I'm still starstruck by him even though I've known him a long time. And I was like I saw him, I got so excited. I was like done, it's so in. He was really nice. And then I walked away. And then next time I was like near a mirror. I like looked in the mirror and I realized that I'd gotten dressed in the ark and I was wearing like a sweatshirt and that i'd take my kids to school. I'd like gote dressed really early in the dark. Jonathan got home like late from New York, and I was like didn't want to wake him up, so I grabbed a sweatshirt and it had like stains all over, and then the kids had like spilled stuff. So then I had to like write it, like write an email to Don Cheeta like um hey, uh so like don't judge me going really well, I'm okay. I felt really good about that like running into but um, I might have had like crazy like coffee stains all over me. So anyway, Um, there you go. When you meet your heroes, sometimes my big I get anxious that people aren't going to remember who I am. Me too, Yeah it's Zoe Hill. Remember, yeah, here's what we here's how we know each other. And it's like, yeah, of course, I like. I've done that a couple of times my son. People are like, yeah, I know, I know who you are. I know talk no. But it is good to remind people out of context because there's so many people people like a lot of times, like people see so many people like I always say it just says my dad used always do that. He'd be like, Caleb, it's Caleb like and it was good. I could tell, like, you know, it's good to you know, remind people because of out of context problems. Yes, yeah, I'm not gonna lie to even people introduced themselves to me, and we've met a million times. I most of the time I do not know their name. I just get names all the time too. I like, yeah, yeah, Mark or Mike, I don't know Britanic. I'm pretty good if I know people you know, like, but but sometimes you just don't know people well enough to know their name, you know. Yeah, all right, Eric got one last little segment here for you. Okay, Nicks Box. Nick's Box is brought to you by Hyundai. When it comes to your journey, Hyundai is thinking of every Mile. So welcome back to this segment where we crawled to the back of Nick's closet and pull out the memories that the cast and crew of New Girl have kept hidden for years. You've done a few episodes of New Girl. What is your favorite all time favorite memory from working on the show? Oh boy, okay, give me a second to think, Give me a second to think about um. You know, I think it's probably the scene in the last after the final episode that I directed. It's this. It's shooting this train, this scene where Darren kill him is rambling on about trains and improvising. That was something where he improvised funny like a ton of of just facts about trains. He's like just a dud of a boyfriend of like a guy that Jess starts dating and and oh yeah, so that's the episode She Loves His parents by Julie Haggarty and Henry Wink Yeah, are like the best loveliest people in the world. And it's just this like awkward dinner where she's like, gotta break it off and it's like and yeah, I remember just uh yeah, him just going on and on and on about trains and and everyone just like so dying dying laughing, He's so funny and asked him if he I said, I said, are those real facts about trains? He said, no, I mean great improviser. Thanks for bringing out Nick's box. Hunday remember from shopping to buying to owning, Hunday has your back. Like our favorite memories, taking a Hyundai on your journey will keep you feeling safe and warm. Learn more at Hyundai USA dot com. Okay, so we do this segment called Where's the Bear? Because, um, there is this big fan rumor that there's a bear in every single episode you have directed multiple episodes. Did Liz or any writer producer ever tell you, Um, we just need to make sure that we have a bear somewhere in an episode, a little toy bear, a bear on the wall. Ever said to you, Oh my gosh, I I'm not sure about the bear thing. I'm I think I've sort of I think there's something some bear reference in in the in like the Latvia scene, and I think there was in a lot for the episode. Because in this episode there's a bear in Winston's room. So that the fan theory checks out for this episode. Okay, it checks out for this I don't know if I was told about the bear and this episode, but see it's a maybe. If it's there, it's there, possible. If it's there, it's there, you can't see. This is a point for me. Is in the pudding. Thank you, Eric, Thank you. That's hilarious. Thank you Eric. We might have to have you back to talk about some of some of your other episodes if you're way, because um, yeah, I would, I would, I would love to. There's I mean, there's so many fun memories. Yeah, the next one I did is like a flashback episode. There's more. There's Schmid and at the Christmas Tree, a lot Winson in Latvia. Yes, yeah, so there's Yeah, there's a lot of really really fun stuff. I would absolutely love to. 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