Nicholas Cole joins Mark Moss to discuss MSTR’s Bitcoin treasury strategy, STRC, Bitcoin vs MSTR, and Strategy’s potential path to the S&P 500. Cole shares what he learned from a private 2020 call with Michael Saylor, why he believes Strategy has already won its category, and the biggest criticisms of the company.

They also explore AI and the future of work, personal treasury management, building and preserving wealth, and Cole’s decade-long rule: “make money online, buy Bitcoin.”
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Trailer
0:54 - Why AI Won’t Replace Skilled Workers
7:09 - How Entrepreneurs Should Actually Use AI
11:56 - Sponsor: Protect Your Bitcoin Inheritance with Unchained
12:47 - AI, Abundance, and the Rise of High-Agency People
21:33 - Nicholas Cole’s Private 2020 Call with Michael Saylor
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27:03 - Why Cole Became Convinced Saylor Would Win
31:43 - What Strategy Is Actually Building
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40:32 - Is Strategy Just a Giant Ponzi Scheme?
49:58 - The Personal Wealth Lesson Behind Saylor’s Strategy
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54:28 - “Make Money Online, Buy Bitcoin”
56:00 - Why Own Strategy Instead of Bitcoin?
1:02:10 - Nicholas Cole’s Long-Term Strategy Thesis
1:04:49 - The Most Important Lesson About Money
1:07:47 - Where to Follow Nicolas Cole
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