Lately than gentle manner. Welcome to the late debate. Good evening, Welcome to the late debates. I'm killed. Richard's with me on the desk tonight, Evelyn Ray and Lucy Zelig. Now we're supposed to be transitioning towards renewable power. Well are we transitioning or why are we just wobbling in an uncertain direction? Also tonight, when there's a lone wolf kind of terrors, such as the person that we saw in this horrible event in New Orleans killing fifteen people, how safe are we in Australia and could they be activated by what's happening in the Middle East? Those stories coming up. But firstly tonight, what are you going to do in twenty twenty five? Well, I know one thing for certain you'll be doing. You will be voting, possibly in March, but perhaps as early as April, it could be that early. And how are we going to vote? Well, it may depend on whether your twenty third pair of chromosomes are xx or x y. Because we're told men and women are interested in different things. Women more aggrieved about the cost of living than men, and there's a gender split on key election issues. Generally, men apparently more in favor of nuclear power and more concerned about left wing ideology, women more concerned about the cost of living and less inclined to trust governments. So, Lucy, is there a gender split in this election?

Lately than gentle manner. Welcome to the late debate. Good evening, Welcome to the late debates. I'm killed. Richard's with me on the desk tonight, Evelyn Ray and Lucy Zelig. Now we're supposed to be transitioning towards renewable power. Well are we transitioning or why are we just wobbling in an uncertain direction? Also tonight, when there's a lone wolf kind of terrors, such as the person that we saw in this horrible event in New Orleans killing fifteen people, how safe are we in Australia and could they be activated by what's happening in the Middle East? Those stories coming up. But firstly tonight, what are you going to do in twenty twenty five? Well, I know one thing for certain you'll be doing. You will be voting, possibly in March, but perhaps as early as April, it could be that early. And how are we going to vote? Well, it may depend on whether your twenty third pair of chromosomes are xx or x y. Because we're told men and women are interested in different things. Women more aggrieved about the cost of living than men, and there's a gender split on key election issues. Generally, men apparently more in favor of nuclear power and more concerned about left wing ideology, women more concerned about the cost of living and less inclined to trust governments. So, Lucy, is there a gender split in this election?

My gosh, who would have thought men and women are different?

My gosh, who would have thought men and women are different?

Shock me, Kel, this is a revelation.

Shock me, Kel, this is a revelation.

What do we do with it? I mean, look, I was listening to Caroline de Russo talk about this earlier with Danika de Georgio, and I tended to agree with her line of thinking in that you know, I know that we like to argue, and I guess in many respects. Now we're a modern, involved society. The roles have changed in the household. I certainly still adopt a very traditional role in my household. I'm the one doing the groceries, the cooking, the cleaning, and all those sorts of things. And my husband is the hunter gatherer, providing for his family. God bless him. But you know, I'm the one that's seeing the daily costs. I'm the one going and seeing just how much I'm getting for one hundred dollars, which is barely two bags of groceries. I'm the one usually seeing the bills come in and all of those sorts of things. So and I also think to a agree that it's a lot of this fear mongering around nuclear that has very much kind of, I guess potentially scared women off and they've seen the surface level of it, and that's sort of, you know, really gotten to them. And when I speak to most women, and a lot of them very intelligent, a lot of them in the corporate world, et cetera. To be fair to them, a lot of them are as invested in finding out what nuclear is all about, right, and the impacts and you know, the safety issues surrounding it that existed were you know in the days of Fukashima and Chernobyl that we've evolved from that that we do have a plant in Lucas Heights, for example, that's been running without much issue. So I think that those are the key kind of fundamental points where we can see a bit of a divide there. But I'd encourage most women to have a look at nuclear and to really explore a lot around it, and you'll understand why very quickly that countries like the United States, why they have bipartisan support for something like this, and why it is the most reliable and stable form of energy going forward.

What do we do with it? I mean, look, I was listening to Caroline de Russo talk about this earlier with Danika de Georgio, and I tended to agree with her line of thinking in that you know, I know that we like to argue, and I guess in many respects. Now we're a modern, involved society. The roles have changed in the household. I certainly still adopt a very traditional role in my household. I'm the one doing the groceries, the cooking, the cleaning, and all those sorts of things. And my husband is the hunter gatherer, providing for his family. God bless him. But you know, I'm the one that's seeing the daily costs. I'm the one going and seeing just how much I'm getting for one hundred dollars, which is barely two bags of groceries. I'm the one usually seeing the bills come in and all of those sorts of things. So and I also think to a agree that it's a lot of this fear mongering around nuclear that has very much kind of, I guess potentially scared women off and they've seen the surface level of it, and that's sort of, you know, really gotten to them. And when I speak to most women, and a lot of them very intelligent, a lot of them in the corporate world, et cetera. To be fair to them, a lot of them are as invested in finding out what nuclear is all about, right, and the impacts and you know, the safety issues surrounding it that existed were you know in the days of Fukashima and Chernobyl that we've evolved from that that we do have a plant in Lucas Heights, for example, that's been running without much issue. So I think that those are the key kind of fundamental points where we can see a bit of a divide there. But I'd encourage most women to have a look at nuclear and to really explore a lot around it, and you'll understand why very quickly that countries like the United States, why they have bipartisan support for something like this, and why it is the most reliable and stable form of energy going forward.

Research that's been done, Evelyn suggests that the parties neither party has got policies that really appeal to women, that both parties are actually failing to reach women voters.

Research that's been done, Evelyn suggests that the parties neither party has got policies that really appeal to women, that both parties are actually failing to reach women voters.

What do you think, Yeah, it's an interesting one.

What do you think, Yeah, it's an interesting one.

I mean, if you look statistically, women tend to vote more left side of politics, and men tend to vote more right, which is why if you look at American politics, they, you know, the Democratic Party, focus so hardly on things that they think women are going to like, like abortion and those have viv I know that's very true, but you know, I think it comes down to like the nature. You know, you're not allowed to say this, it's taboo, but you know, men and women are different, you know, color it's shocking.

I mean, if you look statistically, women tend to vote more left side of politics, and men tend to vote more right, which is why if you look at American politics, they, you know, the Democratic Party, focus so hardly on things that they think women are going to like, like abortion and those have viv I know that's very true, but you know, I think it comes down to like the nature. You know, you're not allowed to say this, it's taboo, but you know, men and women are different, you know, color it's shocking.

I'm actually great grateful.

I'm actually great grateful.

That we're able to say that live on TV.

That we're able to say that live on TV.

Men and women are different.

Men and women are different.

And I think the reason why perhaps women vote more left is because we.

And I think the reason why perhaps women vote more left is because we.

Are by nature more nurturing, more caring.

Are by nature more nurturing, more caring.

So these socialist policies tend to tug at our heartstrings, you know, these things like well, we want to make everybody not be poor, and that's a noble and moral way for us to think. But I think the anchoring part is when you get like that you know, voice of reason or the reality check that that it doesn't actually work out that way in the end. And perhaps, like, you know, it's good that we're having these discussions so that women can learn more if they perhaps haven't heard about nuclear maybe their circles haven't heard the other side or the other opinion. And now that women are more aggrieved about the cost of living, which has come out of here, they can start having conversations with people outside.

So these socialist policies tend to tug at our heartstrings, you know, these things like well, we want to make everybody not be poor, and that's a noble and moral way for us to think. But I think the anchoring part is when you get like that you know, voice of reason or the reality check that that it doesn't actually work out that way in the end. And perhaps, like, you know, it's good that we're having these discussions so that women can learn more if they perhaps haven't heard about nuclear maybe their circles haven't heard the other side or the other opinion. And now that women are more aggrieved about the cost of living, which has come out of here, they can start having conversations with people outside.

Of you know, their usual talking structures.

Of you know, their usual talking structures.

And here, you know, the other side. It's not scary being right wing. It's not you know, we're not demons, we're not we're not this awful wing all come exactly. And so these conversations are really good because I think the women vote is so important for policies, and I think sadly we've perhaps got it so wrong because we've convinced women for such a long time that you know, anyone the right basically hates them, which is not true. So good, good that this is coming out and hopefully change can happen.

And here, you know, the other side. It's not scary being right wing. It's not you know, we're not demons, we're not we're not this awful wing all come exactly. And so these conversations are really good because I think the women vote is so important for policies, and I think sadly we've perhaps got it so wrong because we've convinced women for such a long time that you know, anyone the right basically hates them, which is not true. So good, good that this is coming out and hopefully change can happen.

Well, the political wonks are very fond of saying the liberal party has got a women problem, but this research is suggesting, Lucy, both parties have got a women problem. Do you think there's a failure of politicians to connect generally with women.

Well, the political wonks are very fond of saying the liberal party has got a women problem, but this research is suggesting, Lucy, both parties have got a women problem. Do you think there's a failure of politicians to connect generally with women.

I think it's a failure on the voter's part to be honest, because, you know, and I asked the.

I think it's a failure on the voter's part to be honest, because, you know, and I asked the.

Women, Yeah, we'll just on voters in general.

Women, Yeah, we'll just on voters in general.

And I remember asking this question the other day on Talkbak radio with two GB and saying, how much do you know about the people you're voting for? And this applies to both men and women, right. I genuinely believe that a lot of people that are going to the polls, and we had this debate very much so last night about whether or not this is going to be a referendum on energy and how much the impacts of inflation, costs of living, et cetera, will wager into how they cast their votes come May, if it is May. But ultimately, for me, I think it's up to voters to really do their research.

And I remember asking this question the other day on Talkbak radio with two GB and saying, how much do you know about the people you're voting for? And this applies to both men and women, right. I genuinely believe that a lot of people that are going to the polls, and we had this debate very much so last night about whether or not this is going to be a referendum on energy and how much the impacts of inflation, costs of living, et cetera, will wager into how they cast their votes come May, if it is May. But ultimately, for me, I think it's up to voters to really do their research.

You know.

You know.

I watched a shocking piece of footage on another program a couple of weeks ago in which they were interviewing people on the streets of Melbourne and asking them who the premiere of the state was oh yeah, and people went, I don't know.

I watched a shocking piece of footage on another program a couple of weeks ago in which they were interviewing people on the streets of Melbourne and asking them who the premiere of the state was oh yeah, and people went, I don't know.

They started showing.

They started showing.

Photographs and the girl that I how old this person?

Photographs and the girl that I how old this person?

We're talking like probably twenties, twenties to thirties, probably late twenties.

We're talking like probably twenties, twenties to thirties, probably late twenties.

And they showed photographs to this young woman and.

And they showed photographs to this young woman and.

Can you recognize this person?

Can you recognize this person?

And you know what she said? She goes, she looks all right, And I went, what And these are people who are going to the polls that are going to decide the future.

And you know what she said? She goes, she looks all right, And I went, what And these are people who are going to the polls that are going to decide the future.

Of our country.

Of our country.

That's why, you know, in America they espoused that view of you know, this is one of the most important and key elections of our lifetime. I very much feel that way about this election for us.

That's why, you know, in America they espoused that view of you know, this is one of the most important and key elections of our lifetime. I very much feel that way about this election for us.

Maybe it's our fault. Maybe it's the media. We are not communicating with the right people. Are we letting down that If young people don't know, right, if the twenty year old don't watch Sky News, if they're somewhere along the line, they must be getting information, and the old news sources seem not to be playing that role.

Maybe it's our fault. Maybe it's the media. We are not communicating with the right people. Are we letting down that If young people don't know, right, if the twenty year old don't watch Sky News, if they're somewhere along the line, they must be getting information, and the old news sources seem not to be playing that role.

I think a lot of younger generations kind of follow what their parents do, and I know, like, you know, my parents not Now I've radicalized.

I think a lot of younger generations kind of follow what their parents do, and I know, like, you know, my parents not Now I've radicalized.

The fifteen year old sode exists to say no, Dad, you're wrong. That's what fifteen year olds do all the time. They don't follow their parents all the time.

The fifteen year old sode exists to say no, Dad, you're wrong. That's what fifteen year olds do all the time. They don't follow their parents all the time.

But I do think and statistics do show, particularly young women, they usually do what their dad does, what their father does. And so what our parents of our generation used to do was just basically do what our parents did and who our parents voted for. And once upon a time, you could trust the ABC, you could trust these mainstream media things. And I think now that there's been a shift, you know, they need to start going outside. I'm not telling to be disrespectful to your parents, but look at other different news sources like Sky and news like listen to us but you and stuff. Yeah, that's right, So that's an important one.

But I do think and statistics do show, particularly young women, they usually do what their dad does, what their father does. And so what our parents of our generation used to do was just basically do what our parents did and who our parents voted for. And once upon a time, you could trust the ABC, you could trust these mainstream media things. And I think now that there's been a shift, you know, they need to start going outside. I'm not telling to be disrespectful to your parents, but look at other different news sources like Sky and news like listen to us but you and stuff. Yeah, that's right, So that's an important one.

Yeah, let's move on to what we will actually be voting on. And one of the issues is, as Lucy said, energy And at the moment, the big switch is meant to be on where there's this transition that is taking us in nice, steady, organized steps from the old coal fired power to renewable power. But is it happening. It's Chris Bowen's baby. He's supposed to be organizing this, and every time he talks, he says very confident things, but the energy bosses disagree. Today, the energy bosses have called for market certainty, that's what they call it, market certainty. As the nation switches towards renewables. Now they're saying they want to know what's going to happen, what the plan is, and what happens next. Why are they feeling uncertain?

Yeah, let's move on to what we will actually be voting on. And one of the issues is, as Lucy said, energy And at the moment, the big switch is meant to be on where there's this transition that is taking us in nice, steady, organized steps from the old coal fired power to renewable power. But is it happening. It's Chris Bowen's baby. He's supposed to be organizing this, and every time he talks, he says very confident things, but the energy bosses disagree. Today, the energy bosses have called for market certainty, that's what they call it, market certainty. As the nation switches towards renewables. Now they're saying they want to know what's going to happen, what the plan is, and what happens next. Why are they feeling uncertain?

They've got every right to feel uncertain, kel because Anthony Albanezi a lah the Voice, hasn't done a very good job of explaining what this path to part of me to renewable energy is. Actually I'm not sure he knows. He doesn't, and it's the issue with it.

They've got every right to feel uncertain, kel because Anthony Albanezi a lah the Voice, hasn't done a very good job of explaining what this path to part of me to renewable energy is. Actually I'm not sure he knows. He doesn't, and it's the issue with it.

Right.

Right.

And the one of the key things that I took from this article that came out via the Australian Tales Great Report in response to the Australian CEO Survey twenty twenty five, the leading executives warned they were seeing investors pull investment from Australia into countries with more stable and supportive policies. So what does that mean? Most of the top perform economies economies in the world have adopted nuclear and very successfully. Right, And what we're seeing here is this petulance and this resistant resistance from the Labor Party side to acknowledge a they need to lift the moratorium, B that we need to have a transparent, educated and honest discussion surrounding what the best pathway forward is. We know that renewables aren't stable, we know that they're not reliable, that they aren't the cheapest form of energy, and that we need to start acknowledging these facts. Right. So there's a lot of issues surrounding this, and I think the Labor Party, unfortunately have been thrust into a situation now where they're being shown for who they are when it comes to this, which is very disorganized and incompetent.

And the one of the key things that I took from this article that came out via the Australian Tales Great Report in response to the Australian CEO Survey twenty twenty five, the leading executives warned they were seeing investors pull investment from Australia into countries with more stable and supportive policies. So what does that mean? Most of the top perform economies economies in the world have adopted nuclear and very successfully. Right, And what we're seeing here is this petulance and this resistant resistance from the Labor Party side to acknowledge a they need to lift the moratorium, B that we need to have a transparent, educated and honest discussion surrounding what the best pathway forward is. We know that renewables aren't stable, we know that they're not reliable, that they aren't the cheapest form of energy, and that we need to start acknowledging these facts. Right. So there's a lot of issues surrounding this, and I think the Labor Party, unfortunately have been thrust into a situation now where they're being shown for who they are when it comes to this, which is very disorganized and incompetent.

And these are the CEOs who sit in the board rooms and make the decisions about the money that will fund the sources of energy that we have. So them being uncertain, them being unhappy is bad news.

And these are the CEOs who sit in the board rooms and make the decisions about the money that will fund the sources of energy that we have. So them being uncertain, them being unhappy is bad news.

It certainly is bad news. It's a massive red flag.

It certainly is bad news. It's a massive red flag.

But you know, if something is cheaper, something's more reliable, and something's more efficient, newsflash, you don't have to force it on people.

But you know, if something is cheaper, something's more reliable, and something's more efficient, newsflash, you don't have to force it on people.

People will willingly go to it.

People will willingly go to it.

But the reality is it isn't cheaper, it isn't more reliable, and it isn't efficient. I don't know about people at home. I've said this example before, but it's a perfect one. We used to have dial up internet and then we went to broadband, and now.

But the reality is it isn't cheaper, it isn't more reliable, and it isn't efficient. I don't know about people at home. I've said this example before, but it's a perfect one. We used to have dial up internet and then we went to broadband, and now.

We have starlink. I have starlink.

We have starlink. I have starlink.

I think it's absolutely fabulous, especially because I live in the bush and I get perfect internet.

I think it's absolutely fabulous, especially because I live in the bush and I get perfect internet.

Long thank you.

Long thank you.

But the thing is, no one had to put a gun to my head, or make legislation in the government, or make my life a living hell.

But the thing is, no one had to put a gun to my head, or make legislation in the government, or make my life a living hell.

To get me to that point.

To get me to that point.

I willingly went to that point because it was better, it was more reliable, more efficient, and it was cheaper.

I willingly went to that point because it was better, it was more reliable, more efficient, and it was cheaper.

It's that simple with this debate.

It's that simple with this debate.

And the force that does that is the market force. You put these things on the market and let the market decide what they want to buy and what they want to pay for. But that's not happening in this case. Because renewables are so heavily subsidized, we can't tell what the market wants, and these CEOs, I assume, can't tell what the market will take because of the huge amount of government subsidies floating in this area.

And the force that does that is the market force. You put these things on the market and let the market decide what they want to buy and what they want to pay for. But that's not happening in this case. Because renewables are so heavily subsidized, we can't tell what the market wants, and these CEOs, I assume, can't tell what the market will take because of the huge amount of government subsidies floating in this area.

But this is why, Kelly, you've hit the nail on the head. But this is why they're demanding more reliable and I guess clearer pathways forward on what this is going to actually look like. And unfortunately in Labour's case, in particular Chris Bowen's case and his insistence on pushing renewables onto the Australian public is that it's putting it's putting politics ahead of progress, right, it's not acknowledging that we do have another viewpoint, another argument in this debate, which is of course nuclear energy. And I guess that a lot of people have looked at it and you know some of their major concerns are around the timeframe, right, so how quickly will we be able to do this? And then it also broadens the scope to the other side, the darker side of the argument, which is depending on who you speak to. I mean I caught up with David little Proud from the leader of the Nationals Party, and when I put to him why it's important for us to remain in that Paris agreement, Why the coalition supports the Paris Agreement, given that we have some of the cleanest coal in the world, for example, and that we know that this time frame, this rush that labor really has a sin in the scare mongering that they have us in is something that isn't required. Right, we can take our time in that transition phase. But he pointed out to me and said, look, if we don't continue our I guess our partnership in our subscription to the Paris Agreement, what we're going to see is an increase in tariffs and that's going to hit Australian taxpayers hard in their pockets. So there's a lot of kind of moving parts to consider in all of this.

But this is why, Kelly, you've hit the nail on the head. But this is why they're demanding more reliable and I guess clearer pathways forward on what this is going to actually look like. And unfortunately in Labour's case, in particular Chris Bowen's case and his insistence on pushing renewables onto the Australian public is that it's putting it's putting politics ahead of progress, right, it's not acknowledging that we do have another viewpoint, another argument in this debate, which is of course nuclear energy. And I guess that a lot of people have looked at it and you know some of their major concerns are around the timeframe, right, so how quickly will we be able to do this? And then it also broadens the scope to the other side, the darker side of the argument, which is depending on who you speak to. I mean I caught up with David little Proud from the leader of the Nationals Party, and when I put to him why it's important for us to remain in that Paris agreement, Why the coalition supports the Paris Agreement, given that we have some of the cleanest coal in the world, for example, and that we know that this time frame, this rush that labor really has a sin in the scare mongering that they have us in is something that isn't required. Right, we can take our time in that transition phase. But he pointed out to me and said, look, if we don't continue our I guess our partnership in our subscription to the Paris Agreement, what we're going to see is an increase in tariffs and that's going to hit Australian taxpayers hard in their pockets. So there's a lot of kind of moving parts to consider in all of this.

It is, in fact that's the problem. We think if we'll just pull out of the Paris Agreement, which is what Trump is quite likely to do, or abandon that zero but the way the rest of the world then reacts may be not good for us. So, as David little Proud was telling Lucy, we have to take our steps seat easily while we're talking about what's happening in Australia is not quite so serious, but it's still happening. There was a Melbourne couple who drove from Melbourne seventeen hundred kilometers to get up to Barren Bay. They went to a beach called Tiagra Tiger was a little bit north of Byron Bay and they'd heard that it was a nude bathing beach, so they went there. They took off their gear, walked onto the beach and people wearing swimmers came up to them and said, that doesn't happen here anymore. So the question is, are we becoming a nation of prudes? Nude beaches shut out in the nanny state? Now, what's actually happened in this particular case. It used to be under Barron Bay, a barren Shire council. They said it was optional, you didn't have to wear any clothing on the beach if you didn't want to. That was challenged, it was renewed, but suddenly New South Wales Parks and Wildlife discovered they controlled the beach. It was their beach, so they immediately said goes back to being a normal beach where your swimmers. So what do we do about nude beaches? Are we being a nation of prudes? Or is this something that we suggest say it's okay these days.

It is, in fact that's the problem. We think if we'll just pull out of the Paris Agreement, which is what Trump is quite likely to do, or abandon that zero but the way the rest of the world then reacts may be not good for us. So, as David little Proud was telling Lucy, we have to take our steps seat easily while we're talking about what's happening in Australia is not quite so serious, but it's still happening. There was a Melbourne couple who drove from Melbourne seventeen hundred kilometers to get up to Barren Bay. They went to a beach called Tiagra Tiger was a little bit north of Byron Bay and they'd heard that it was a nude bathing beach, so they went there. They took off their gear, walked onto the beach and people wearing swimmers came up to them and said, that doesn't happen here anymore. So the question is, are we becoming a nation of prudes? Nude beaches shut out in the nanny state? Now, what's actually happened in this particular case. It used to be under Barron Bay, a barren Shire council. They said it was optional, you didn't have to wear any clothing on the beach if you didn't want to. That was challenged, it was renewed, but suddenly New South Wales Parks and Wildlife discovered they controlled the beach. It was their beach, so they immediately said goes back to being a normal beach where your swimmers. So what do we do about nude beaches? Are we being a nation of prudes? Or is this something that we suggest say it's okay these days.

I'm happy if you want to call me a prude, but I think it should be open to everybody. I don't think that we should have mid beaches. I happen to think that we should have a high public standard. You know, they tell the government to stay out of the bedroom. Well, I would like the bedroom out of public view, thank you very much. If you look at a particular nude beach Enviarron Bay, I don't know if it's the same one as this, but back.

I'm happy if you want to call me a prude, but I think it should be open to everybody. I don't think that we should have mid beaches. I happen to think that we should have a high public standard. You know, they tell the government to stay out of the bedroom. Well, I would like the bedroom out of public view, thank you very much. If you look at a particular nude beach Enviarron Bay, I don't know if it's the same one as this, but back.

In twenty seventeen there were.

In twenty seventeen there were.

Multiple reports about sex pests that were.

Multiple reports about sex pests that were.

Loitering around these places.

Loitering around these places.

There was a woman who saw people performing sexual acts, you know, and then another group in you know, with multiple people, like a group scenario. You had men blocking women on the path. I honestly think that the world will be better if we had high standards. If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. And I think we should as a society have a high standard. And I'm more than happy you call me a prude, but I think nude beats beaches.

There was a woman who saw people performing sexual acts, you know, and then another group in you know, with multiple people, like a group scenario. You had men blocking women on the path. I honestly think that the world will be better if we had high standards. If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. And I think we should as a society have a high standard. And I'm more than happy you call me a prude, but I think nude beats beaches.

Should be gone beach okay.

Should be gone beach okay.

And that's why there was a complaint. There was a complain to lude behavior and so they said, you know, stop it being a nude beach, and Buyern Council said no, no, no, no, it's still going to be a nude beach. But then Parks and While Life said no it won't be. So are we a nation of proof. I mean, as an old family man, I come from a generation that thinks when you make a beach a nude beach, it means families can't go. And so what you're doing is you're not actually creating a beach for people who want to be nudes, you're closing it for families. Am I wrong?

And that's why there was a complaint. There was a complain to lude behavior and so they said, you know, stop it being a nude beach, and Buyern Council said no, no, no, no, it's still going to be a nude beach. But then Parks and While Life said no it won't be. So are we a nation of proof. I mean, as an old family man, I come from a generation that thinks when you make a beach a nude beach, it means families can't go. And so what you're doing is you're not actually creating a beach for people who want to be nudes, you're closing it for families. Am I wrong?

It's an interesting one because you know, I have traveled a lot in Europe and it's really quite commonplace. It hasn't been uncommon to and I go completely nude. I'll just make that clear. But it's very normal to see women kind of walking around topless. I mean, you don't necessarily see men completely nude. But it's interesting how we have completely kind of different cultural views when it comes to this. I completely disagree with any forms of solicitation or issues or sex pests floating around. I think once that becomes an issue, shut it down. And the other school of thought also in this is that you know they're public beach is right, So I guess if you know that it's a nude beach, you know what you're going to be getting when you get there. But is it fair to completely shut down a nude beach?

It's an interesting one because you know, I have traveled a lot in Europe and it's really quite commonplace. It hasn't been uncommon to and I go completely nude. I'll just make that clear. But it's very normal to see women kind of walking around topless. I mean, you don't necessarily see men completely nude. But it's interesting how we have completely kind of different cultural views when it comes to this. I completely disagree with any forms of solicitation or issues or sex pests floating around. I think once that becomes an issue, shut it down. And the other school of thought also in this is that you know they're public beach is right, So I guess if you know that it's a nude beach, you know what you're going to be getting when you get there. But is it fair to completely shut down a nude beach?

Actually also to find around nude that's anywhere else.

Actually also to find around nude that's anywhere else.

Well, that's true, But you know, is it completely fair to shut down a beach and say, well, no, if you don't want to come here nude and be an exhibitionist, then you can't come.

Well, that's true, But you know, is it completely fair to shut down a beach and say, well, no, if you don't want to come here nude and be an exhibitionist, then you can't come.

I mean, that's I have a view that if it's a nudist beach, I'm not going to be going there.

I mean, that's I have a view that if it's a nudist beach, I'm not going to be going there.

I'm not going to be visiting there. You know, I'm not going to be.

I'm not going to be visiting there. You know, I'm not going to be.

Going on gluing myself on the hard walk shut down on the nude beaches.

Going on gluing myself on the hard walk shut down on the nude beaches.

But you want to know ahead of time if that's what you going to be coomed.

But you want to know ahead of time if that's what you going to be coomed.

That's right.

That's right.

But yeah, in a perfect well you're finding very quickly kell.

But yeah, in a perfect well you're finding very quickly kell.

Not hard to get.

Not hard to get.

It doesn't take you long if you go there to work out what's going on. Let's turn to what's happening in the world of employment, which is also changing. We're told that the things that are happening in the world of employment will be different in twenty twenty five, and one of the things that will be different will be diversity, equity and inclusion.

It doesn't take you long if you go there to work out what's going on. Let's turn to what's happening in the world of employment, which is also changing. We're told that the things that are happening in the world of employment will be different in twenty twenty five, and one of the things that will be different will be diversity, equity and inclusion.

That's the de Well my band words we did this week.

That's the de Well my band words we did this week.

Well, they've said that there's a lot of hype about what's changing in workplaces and this will change. Now a lot of companies are now saying they're not so much abandoning diversity, equity inclusion the DEI, but they're going to change the way it operates, some very large companies, so they've announced changes to these programs so you won't be chosen for a job necessarily on the basis that you're the right gender or the right race or whatever. Are they going to really move away from DEI? Do you think, Lucy, or is this just a smoke scheme.

Well, they've said that there's a lot of hype about what's changing in workplaces and this will change. Now a lot of companies are now saying they're not so much abandoning diversity, equity inclusion the DEI, but they're going to change the way it operates, some very large companies, so they've announced changes to these programs so you won't be chosen for a job necessarily on the basis that you're the right gender or the right race or whatever. Are they going to really move away from DEI? Do you think, Lucy, or is this just a smoke scheme.

You're a word smith, and you know all of the wonderful cliches that we have, and we discussed this earlier. If you polish a turn or put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig, and it's still a turd. I don't know that they're necessarily going to move entirely away from this. It's something that they have created as a pillar in an attempt to try and you know, showcase to everybody just how virtuous they are. I want the person for the job that is rewarded with the job based on merit, right, That's who I want for the job. And I think that's really critical and key you know, I speak to someone that specializes in government contracts and she said it's an absolute nightmare for her because she has gotten requests where she said, I look down at the paperents as well, we're looking for an indigenous engineer. Well, I mean, but based on what I mean, there have been job adds that again that I saw this week that are targeting specifically in people from indigenous communities, right, which I think is just it's a total kind of sham of a process then, because what you're saying is is that we're not valuing the quality and the skill sets that someone has in this role, where putting their ethnicity or their race, their heritage above all else. And you know, we saw DEI was a perfect example at the assassination attempt, right, those women in the Secret Service trying to protect Trump. If that wasn't the most glaring and obvious example of why we shouldn't have these things in place. And I don't know what is well.

You're a word smith, and you know all of the wonderful cliches that we have, and we discussed this earlier. If you polish a turn or put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig, and it's still a turd. I don't know that they're necessarily going to move entirely away from this. It's something that they have created as a pillar in an attempt to try and you know, showcase to everybody just how virtuous they are. I want the person for the job that is rewarded with the job based on merit, right, That's who I want for the job. And I think that's really critical and key you know, I speak to someone that specializes in government contracts and she said it's an absolute nightmare for her because she has gotten requests where she said, I look down at the paperents as well, we're looking for an indigenous engineer. Well, I mean, but based on what I mean, there have been job adds that again that I saw this week that are targeting specifically in people from indigenous communities, right, which I think is just it's a total kind of sham of a process then, because what you're saying is is that we're not valuing the quality and the skill sets that someone has in this role, where putting their ethnicity or their race, their heritage above all else. And you know, we saw DEI was a perfect example at the assassination attempt, right, those women in the Secret Service trying to protect Trump. If that wasn't the most glaring and obvious example of why we shouldn't have these things in place. And I don't know what is well.

The d I apparently gave us Kamala Harris work out terribly well for the Democratic Party or necessarily terribly well for America. It is the case, though, that there are big companies Walmart and America as an example Evelyn, where they actually shut down their DEI department. It's gone. It does not exist in Walmart anymore. Might it happen?

The d I apparently gave us Kamala Harris work out terribly well for the Democratic Party or necessarily terribly well for America. It is the case, though, that there are big companies Walmart and America as an example Evelyn, where they actually shut down their DEI department. It's gone. It does not exist in Walmart anymore. Might it happen?

Look, I think that, to be honest, they've done such a number on people that people would be so scared to not do this, especially businesses.

Look, I think that, to be honest, they've done such a number on people that people would be so scared to not do this, especially businesses.

Like it's like a mob attack.

Like it's like a mob attack.

If people don't do Dei HighRes, the mob basically comes with their pitchforks and their little fires, and you're done.

If people don't do Dei HighRes, the mob basically comes with their pitchforks and their little fires, and you're done.

But it's interesting. I think EI has been.

But it's interesting. I think EI has been.

Around a really long time, and I think it's only been getting it so much traction recently because everyone's sick of the woke stuff.

Around a really long time, and I think it's only been getting it so much traction recently because everyone's sick of the woke stuff.

But I witnessed DEI in the police. I probably was a Dei high.

But I witnessed DEI in the police. I probably was a Dei high.

I was my job.

I was my job.

I mean I was eighteen, I had.

I mean I was eighteen, I had.

No life experience, but you know what, I was a female, so.

No life experience, but you know what, I was a female, so.

I probably got in because I'm happy to say that. And that's the thing.

I probably got in because I'm happy to say that. And that's the thing.

I am good at your job too.

I am good at your job too.

It worked out all right. But you know what's funny.

It worked out all right. But you know what's funny.

You know, It's something that I've noticed is that everybody says that DEI hires are fantastic.

You know, It's something that I've noticed is that everybody says that DEI hires are fantastic.

Everybody has to have it.

Everybody has to have it.

But as soon as you say to someone you're a dee I hire.

But as soon as you say to someone you're a dee I hire.

Oh no, I'm not. And they get offended by it. That's very telling.

Oh no, I'm not. And they get offended by it. That's very telling.

They want to say I got it on.

They want to say I got it on.

Merit exactly, and that's because everybody knows within themselves that that's how they should be employed based off that and nothing else.

Merit exactly, and that's because everybody knows within themselves that that's how they should be employed based off that and nothing else.

Let's turn back to the story which has been dominating the news again today, the story of that dreadful attack in New Orleans where fifteen people died in a really horrible incident. Now the FBI now telling us it was a man acting alone, it was not a terror cell around. And the problem with these lone wolf sort of actors, these lone wolf terrorists, they could be terribly hard to find. Mike Puzzulo was the head of the Department of Home Affairs in Australia and he is warning us now that isis will quote exploit Palestinian anger after the New Orleans terror attack, So he's warning us to be careful. The terror rating in Australia at the moment is probable. That means over fifty percent. It is more likely than not we will have one of these attacks. And it's these lone wolf factors that it's so hard for the experts the intelligence experts, the police intelligence to identify it before they strike, isn't it.

Let's turn back to the story which has been dominating the news again today, the story of that dreadful attack in New Orleans where fifteen people died in a really horrible incident. Now the FBI now telling us it was a man acting alone, it was not a terror cell around. And the problem with these lone wolf sort of actors, these lone wolf terrorists, they could be terribly hard to find. Mike Puzzulo was the head of the Department of Home Affairs in Australia and he is warning us now that isis will quote exploit Palestinian anger after the New Orleans terror attack, So he's warning us to be careful. The terror rating in Australia at the moment is probable. That means over fifty percent. It is more likely than not we will have one of these attacks. And it's these lone wolf factors that it's so hard for the experts the intelligence experts, the police intelligence to identify it before they strike, isn't it.

It certainly is. And it goes back to the conversation that we're having on last night's program right about you know, what can we be doing? Have you certainly agree that there's more measures that we could be putting in place to prevent these kinds of attacks. But we've always discussed very openly and honestly about the catalyst for these attacks and what we can attribute them to. And the fact of the matter is is that we've imported terrorism into our countries. Mass migration across the West, especially in Europe for example. I mean, you only have to look at Denmark, for example, who has some of the most toughest immigration policies in the world. Do you know who's scoffed at them? The United Kingdom, Germany and Sweden, by the way, all three of them are now in the grips and the throes of an immigration a migration crisis, right they don't know what to do with the crime. They've got open borders in Germany. I mean, it's an absolute circus. So the sooner we start admitting to ourselves what the root cause of this is and addressing that and recognizing that having strong borders in your country isn't a form of racism, that it is designed to protect your nation against entities that want to enter and espouse hatred for that specific country and submit allegiance to their own values above Australia's, for example.

It certainly is. And it goes back to the conversation that we're having on last night's program right about you know, what can we be doing? Have you certainly agree that there's more measures that we could be putting in place to prevent these kinds of attacks. But we've always discussed very openly and honestly about the catalyst for these attacks and what we can attribute them to. And the fact of the matter is is that we've imported terrorism into our countries. Mass migration across the West, especially in Europe for example. I mean, you only have to look at Denmark, for example, who has some of the most toughest immigration policies in the world. Do you know who's scoffed at them? The United Kingdom, Germany and Sweden, by the way, all three of them are now in the grips and the throes of an immigration a migration crisis, right they don't know what to do with the crime. They've got open borders in Germany. I mean, it's an absolute circus. So the sooner we start admitting to ourselves what the root cause of this is and addressing that and recognizing that having strong borders in your country isn't a form of racism, that it is designed to protect your nation against entities that want to enter and espouse hatred for that specific country and submit allegiance to their own values above Australia's, for example.

Then we'll start to.

Then we'll start to.

Have an honest conversation around it and a more logical conversation around it.

Have an honest conversation around it and a more logical conversation around it.

Mike Pozzulo, is, the head of the Department of Home Affairs, was a man who was an absolute expert on this when he was in that job, very highly regarded. I'd like to share with you a quote of what he said today in that article. He said, we cannot afford to take our eye off al qaeder Isis and their spin off groups. These groups will also look for opportunities to exploit sentiment with large Muslim populations in Western countries. I tell you what, it was one puzzling me when I looked at that Penny Wong has taken a very strong pro Palestinian stance. Does that make us any safer or are we still exposed to these attacks?

Mike Pozzulo, is, the head of the Department of Home Affairs, was a man who was an absolute expert on this when he was in that job, very highly regarded. I'd like to share with you a quote of what he said today in that article. He said, we cannot afford to take our eye off al qaeder Isis and their spin off groups. These groups will also look for opportunities to exploit sentiment with large Muslim populations in Western countries. I tell you what, it was one puzzling me when I looked at that Penny Wong has taken a very strong pro Palestinian stance. Does that make us any safer or are we still exposed to these attacks?

Look, I actually have a fairly different take, and I think what you know he said is one hundred percent. And from my experience in law enforcement, you know, this is an opportunity for a lot of things to potentially come from this. But I think that we can't just blame Isis, and I think it's really important that we remember that this problem would have still existed before these things happened. There are always opportunistic criminals out there. There are always opportunistic people who will, you know, try to influence and sway groups of people.

Look, I actually have a fairly different take, and I think what you know he said is one hundred percent. And from my experience in law enforcement, you know, this is an opportunity for a lot of things to potentially come from this. But I think that we can't just blame Isis, and I think it's really important that we remember that this problem would have still existed before these things happened. There are always opportunistic criminals out there. There are always opportunistic people who will, you know, try to influence and sway groups of people.

But what we have to.

But what we have to.

Remember is when you import somebody from another country, you don't just import you know, exquisite like spices and different cuisines. You import ideas, You import loyalties to their motherland, You import ideologies. So regardless of this, I think the problem would have still existed. And one thing that I'm really worried about is that we're going to get the Palestinian protesters who are there to legitimately protest for the rights of the innocent Palestinian children, which is tens of thousands who are dying in this war.

Remember is when you import somebody from another country, you don't just import you know, exquisite like spices and different cuisines. You import ideas, You import loyalties to their motherland, You import ideologies. So regardless of this, I think the problem would have still existed. And one thing that I'm really worried about is that we're going to get the Palestinian protesters who are there to legitimately protest for the rights of the innocent Palestinian children, which is tens of thousands who are dying in this war.

You're going to I'm worried that we're going to create.

You're going to I'm worried that we're going to create.

A problem where we're going to conflate people who are just legitimately from a Palestinian background, who are there and we're going to assume because of statements like this, or there all must be ISIS terrorists or they all must be you know.

A problem where we're going to conflate people who are just legitimately from a Palestinian background, who are there and we're going to assume because of statements like this, or there all must be ISIS terrorists or they all must be you know.

Sympathetic to ISIS.

Sympathetic to ISIS.

So what we have to be careful of is while this information is true and I've seen it with law enforcement, and there will be opportunistic moments from this, we need to be very careful to separate the two and be very careful not to label everybody who is going to be protesting for Palestine as ISIS sympathizers or they've already got their foot in the door, because I think there is.

So what we have to be careful of is while this information is true and I've seen it with law enforcement, and there will be opportunistic moments from this, we need to be very careful to separate the two and be very careful not to label everybody who is going to be protesting for Palestine as ISIS sympathizers or they've already got their foot in the door, because I think there is.

Loyalty to homeland.

Loyalty to homeland.

If you're Palestinian and you're seeing things, of course you're going to be on the streets for that. If you're from Israel and you're seeing all this stuff, you're going to be doing the same thing.

If you're Palestinian and you're seeing things, of course you're going to be on the streets for that. If you're from Israel and you're seeing all this stuff, you're going to be doing the same thing.

It's it's in us to do that.

It's it's in us to do that.

So the one thing we can take out of this, and sometimes some good comes out of evil, is that we're now more aware, and certainly the authorities, the people in responsible positions in our country are now more aware and will be more alert and will take more care. Let's turn to the question of who owns what In Australia. For a long time, the villains have been the baby Boomers. Baby Boomers born nine forty six to nineteen sixty four were sought to be thought to be the people who bought property cheap, and now they're all millionaires because property has gone up so much in value. They've occupied the positions that have blocked promotion to everyone else. Well, it turns out it's not quite the case anymore. The next generation to come along is Generation Next born nineteen sixty five to nineteen seventy nine. They are now australa His wealthiest people as the boomer started to retire. This is an new report from KPMG, the huge accounting company. They say the wealth is being transferred from one generation to the next generation. I wouldn't be surprised about this. Just seems to me to be a fairly natural progression that happens.

So the one thing we can take out of this, and sometimes some good comes out of evil, is that we're now more aware, and certainly the authorities, the people in responsible positions in our country are now more aware and will be more alert and will take more care. Let's turn to the question of who owns what In Australia. For a long time, the villains have been the baby Boomers. Baby Boomers born nine forty six to nineteen sixty four were sought to be thought to be the people who bought property cheap, and now they're all millionaires because property has gone up so much in value. They've occupied the positions that have blocked promotion to everyone else. Well, it turns out it's not quite the case anymore. The next generation to come along is Generation Next born nineteen sixty five to nineteen seventy nine. They are now australa His wealthiest people as the boomer started to retire. This is an new report from KPMG, the huge accounting company. They say the wealth is being transferred from one generation to the next generation. I wouldn't be surprised about this. Just seems to me to be a fairly natural progression that happens.

I agree, and I don't think it's necessarily an accurate depiction of what's really going on. Whether you have people who are passing away and then leaving that certain property to members of Gen X, you know, I feel that it's not necessarily, as I said, an accurate reflection of what's really happening. So ultimately I missed out from all of this, but I think about six years so I'm not able to share in all of that wealth.

I agree, and I don't think it's necessarily an accurate depiction of what's really going on. Whether you have people who are passing away and then leaving that certain property to members of Gen X, you know, I feel that it's not necessarily, as I said, an accurate reflection of what's really happening. So ultimately I missed out from all of this, but I think about six years so I'm not able to share in all of that wealth.

Share a whole millennial London.

Share a whole millennial London.

I've made this point a million times right about my parents. You know who came to this country. My dad came here with eight dollars in his pocket, was able to create a very successful company. Doesn't have to worry about money. I keep saying to him, Dad, go and spend it. I'm not waiting for them to pass away so that I can live. And I think that a lot of people are kind of relying very heavily, and sometimes by no fault of their own, but relying very heavily on that inheritance because of just how difficult the pressures are in the cost of living and to enter the housing mind.

I've made this point a million times right about my parents. You know who came to this country. My dad came here with eight dollars in his pocket, was able to create a very successful company. Doesn't have to worry about money. I keep saying to him, Dad, go and spend it. I'm not waiting for them to pass away so that I can live. And I think that a lot of people are kind of relying very heavily, and sometimes by no fault of their own, but relying very heavily on that inheritance because of just how difficult the pressures are in the cost of living and to enter the housing mind.

Can I say, if you are a baby boomer, the policy you should adopt his skin ski in spend the kids inheritance. Now, get on with it now. Robbie Williams British entertainer, hugely successful, hugely popular, worth about ninety pounds sterling, so a lot of money. He appeared in Sydney New Year's Eve, he's just given a concert in Federation Square in Melbourne, and he was sad, we say, not entirely polite at that concert. He's accused. He's attacked his critics who accused him of over promoting his new movie during the ABC telecast New Year's e Fireworks, and he did he's got a new movie coming out, so he gave it a mention. He said, I am here to sell my If a movie you twitch, you book Robbie Williams, you get Robbie Williams. And he's in the business of selling his movies and selling his records. You're Robin Williams. A Robbie Williams fan.

Can I say, if you are a baby boomer, the policy you should adopt his skin ski in spend the kids inheritance. Now, get on with it now. Robbie Williams British entertainer, hugely successful, hugely popular, worth about ninety pounds sterling, so a lot of money. He appeared in Sydney New Year's Eve, he's just given a concert in Federation Square in Melbourne, and he was sad, we say, not entirely polite at that concert. He's accused. He's attacked his critics who accused him of over promoting his new movie during the ABC telecast New Year's e Fireworks, and he did he's got a new movie coming out, so he gave it a mention. He said, I am here to sell my If a movie you twitch, you book Robbie Williams, you get Robbie Williams. And he's in the business of selling his movies and selling his records. You're Robin Williams. A Robbie Williams fan.

I don't mind him. I didn't have much issue with his performance. V I don't know about you. I was okay. I thought it was a bit tacky when he was talking about, you know, his film and all the rest of it. But you know, sometimes I don't want to get caught up in and we can be guilty of this at times of just finding fault with everything. We've become grenches, like you know, everyone was hammering in for what he said and his performances. I tended to find it a bit humorous and quite funny, especially his quote where he said the menopausal audience I attract. They are violent efforts. You never know when they're going to go off. I mean, this is a man ev that's got all the money in the world. As Kel mentioned, he can do what he likes and say what he likes, and.

I don't mind him. I didn't have much issue with his performance. V I don't know about you. I was okay. I thought it was a bit tacky when he was talking about, you know, his film and all the rest of it. But you know, sometimes I don't want to get caught up in and we can be guilty of this at times of just finding fault with everything. We've become grenches, like you know, everyone was hammering in for what he said and his performances. I tended to find it a bit humorous and quite funny, especially his quote where he said the menopausal audience I attract. They are violent efforts. You never know when they're going to go off. I mean, this is a man ev that's got all the money in the world. As Kel mentioned, he can do what he likes and say what he likes, and.

We would expect him, nevertheless, to show some respect for the audience, which hep is not to have done. You are Robbie Williams fair evalent.

We would expect him, nevertheless, to show some respect for the audience, which hep is not to have done. You are Robbie Williams fair evalent.

My dad is and he doesn't watch me on the TV, which we'll talk about later. But but my dad, so I grew up listening to him.

My dad is and he doesn't watch me on the TV, which we'll talk about later. But but my dad, so I grew up listening to him.

Not huge fan.

Not huge fan.

To be honest, if I heard him, I probably wouldn't listen. I'd flick the channel or something. But I have no problem with him saying this. You know what, I'd probably react the same way of annoying menstrual women were.

To be honest, if I heard him, I probably wouldn't listen. I'd flick the channel or something. But I have no problem with him saying this. You know what, I'd probably react the same way of annoying menstrual women were.

Snagging at me for something. I go, I don't really care, so no problem from my end.

Snagging at me for something. I go, I don't really care, so no problem from my end.

Look, if he wants to plug something, that's what he does. He's in the business to earn money. So the movie was actually shot in Melbourne. It's a bioo pick that tells the story of his life and if you get if you're in that position and you get an opportunity to plug your movie or your book, or your new CD or your new album, whatever it is, then you do it. I mean, I've had a new book come out and every time I appear in the program, I'm holding up the cover and flogging the book like crazy. It's what do you do?

Look, if he wants to plug something, that's what he does. He's in the business to earn money. So the movie was actually shot in Melbourne. It's a bioo pick that tells the story of his life and if you get if you're in that position and you get an opportunity to plug your movie or your book, or your new CD or your new album, whatever it is, then you do it. I mean, I've had a new book come out and every time I appear in the program, I'm holding up the cover and flogging the book like crazy. It's what do you do?

And again we have to be able to laugh at ourselves. The only thing I will say is don't miss with a woman and her allmans and I know what.

And again we have to be able to laugh at ourselves. The only thing I will say is don't miss with a woman and her allmans and I know what.

It's not safe now as Australia is going to has already been the legislation's past Parliament access to the social media for under sixteen year olds as a model for the world, but the world following talk about that next the social media story at a moment, but first in Britain, there's a call for a national inquiry into child sexual exploitation. The request has been rejected by the Starma Labor government. Despite a long and ugly history of young girls being groomed and raped by gangs of mostly Pakistani Muslim men in cities across the North of England, abuse that was ignored for years by authorities who feared being labeled racist. One estimate says that in Rotherham alone, something like one thousand, four hundred young girls were abused over a sixteen year period. And that's just one of a number of cities, mostly in the North, where the police and the care services are accused of serious failings. Now Evelyn Elon Musk has now brought into this debate. What's he had to say?

It's not safe now as Australia is going to has already been the legislation's past Parliament access to the social media for under sixteen year olds as a model for the world, but the world following talk about that next the social media story at a moment, but first in Britain, there's a call for a national inquiry into child sexual exploitation. The request has been rejected by the Starma Labor government. Despite a long and ugly history of young girls being groomed and raped by gangs of mostly Pakistani Muslim men in cities across the North of England, abuse that was ignored for years by authorities who feared being labeled racist. One estimate says that in Rotherham alone, something like one thousand, four hundred young girls were abused over a sixteen year period. And that's just one of a number of cities, mostly in the North, where the police and the care services are accused of serious failings. Now Evelyn Elon Musk has now brought into this debate. What's he had to say?

Well, it's interesting he actually tweeted free Tommy Robinson and then underneath that tweet he's attached a documentary. Now, this documentary was one that Tommy Robinson released which basically gets into the nuts and bolts of this particular type of crime that is rampant across the UK at the moment.

Well, it's interesting he actually tweeted free Tommy Robinson and then underneath that tweet he's attached a documentary. Now, this documentary was one that Tommy Robinson released which basically gets into the nuts and bolts of this particular type of crime that is rampant across the UK at the moment.

Tommy Robinson is now.

Tommy Robinson is now.

In prison because part of him releasing this documentary was him being in breach of court orders. The police told him to not post this he would be in breach and he posted it. This is kind of what has flared this situation up. So Originally in twenty twenty two, an independent inquiry was made into this type of thing. Now from that there are about twenty recommendations that were given. Now as a result of that, people are saying it's not good enough. Because nothing has happened since this independent inquiry and so they've tried to resurface it again. Now as a result of this, you have absolute online outrage at just the information that is coming ahead. We also have Kemy Badnock, who was called for a national inquiry and she has come out and said that she wants an inquiry into the grooming scandal that took place across the UK towns and cities, arguing that one was long over due. So she's come out and said that, which is massive, which is really good, which hopefully.

In prison because part of him releasing this documentary was him being in breach of court orders. The police told him to not post this he would be in breach and he posted it. This is kind of what has flared this situation up. So Originally in twenty twenty two, an independent inquiry was made into this type of thing. Now from that there are about twenty recommendations that were given. Now as a result of that, people are saying it's not good enough. Because nothing has happened since this independent inquiry and so they've tried to resurface it again. Now as a result of this, you have absolute online outrage at just the information that is coming ahead. We also have Kemy Badnock, who was called for a national inquiry and she has come out and said that she wants an inquiry into the grooming scandal that took place across the UK towns and cities, arguing that one was long over due. So she's come out and said that, which is massive, which is really good, which hopefully.

Will get things happening.

Will get things happening.

But I just wanted to go through some of the information that has come out as a result of this, because it's amazing the CEO what the owner of Twitter can do, because it took someone of that magnitude to just put a comment on this issue for it to go viral across the world and stories have been flooding in. And one story is that it's actually close to over two one hundred and fifty thousand white girls over the last twenty years, and that's what we know of that have been involved in these grooming rape cases. To just let that sink in, over two hundred and fifty thousand that we know of. There is a story of a thirteen year old girl who was arrested for being drunk in an apartment with seven Pakistani adult men. Now how this came about is a neighbor heard a scream. Police have attended and upon attending found a nearly naked thirteen year old girl at the scene who was drunk. She was arrested and she was found guilty in court. But the worst part about this, and what everybody is saying, is that every time this is spoken about, is that their feared being called a racist.

But I just wanted to go through some of the information that has come out as a result of this, because it's amazing the CEO what the owner of Twitter can do, because it took someone of that magnitude to just put a comment on this issue for it to go viral across the world and stories have been flooding in. And one story is that it's actually close to over two one hundred and fifty thousand white girls over the last twenty years, and that's what we know of that have been involved in these grooming rape cases. To just let that sink in, over two hundred and fifty thousand that we know of. There is a story of a thirteen year old girl who was arrested for being drunk in an apartment with seven Pakistani adult men. Now how this came about is a neighbor heard a scream. Police have attended and upon attending found a nearly naked thirteen year old girl at the scene who was drunk. She was arrested and she was found guilty in court. But the worst part about this, and what everybody is saying, is that every time this is spoken about, is that their feared being called a racist.

There was a girl by the name of Samantha Smith. She went on gb.

There was a girl by the name of Samantha Smith. She went on gb.

News okay, and she spoke about the gangs in Telford over there, and the next day police attended her address and knocked on her door and intimidated her.

News okay, and she spoke about the gangs in Telford over there, and the next day police attended her address and knocked on her door and intimidated her.

To stop talking about it.

To stop talking about it.

There was also an MP who shared a tweet basically saying these girls in Rodin should shut up and that they should shut their mouths because of racism.

There was also an MP who shared a tweet basically saying these girls in Rodin should shut up and that they should shut their mouths because of racism.

On the top of all of those stories, the thing that is really staggering, Lucy, is that the Starma government won't act, won't actually say let's have a national inquiry and a child sexual exploitation. That's hard to understand, isn't it?

On the top of all of those stories, the thing that is really staggering, Lucy, is that the Starma government won't act, won't actually say let's have a national inquiry and a child sexual exploitation. That's hard to understand, isn't it?

For what reason?

For what reason?

Kel?

Kel?

I mean, when you hear a story like this, and if this is the first time, apologies viewers, because it is very confronting. But if this is the first time that you're hearing this, it will be incredibly shocking and off the back of that when you put it into the context of the entire story, and then you've got someone like who's very bright, by the way, I love her very much, Chemi badnock and very strong when I host.

I mean, when you hear a story like this, and if this is the first time, apologies viewers, because it is very confronting. But if this is the first time that you're hearing this, it will be incredibly shocking and off the back of that when you put it into the context of the entire story, and then you've got someone like who's very bright, by the way, I love her very much, Chemi badnock and very strong when I host.

Can I just say for people who don't know, she's the leader of the opposition, correct, the leader of the Conservative Party, So that's who we're talking about, that's.

Can I just say for people who don't know, she's the leader of the opposition, correct, the leader of the Conservative Party, So that's who we're talking about, that's.

Right, and she was appointed last year the head of the Tories. You know, when you see issues like this come about and you see government resistance to launching an inquiry into this to get to the root cause of it, to get to the bottom of why there was this systemic failure from authorities to act in this regard. I mean, a thirteen year old girl in an apartment, of.

Right, and she was appointed last year the head of the Tories. You know, when you see issues like this come about and you see government resistance to launching an inquiry into this to get to the root cause of it, to get to the bottom of why there was this systemic failure from authorities to act in this regard. I mean, a thirteen year old girl in an apartment, of.

These Sathers who were arrested, who tried to take their children back, I.

These Sathers who were arrested, who tried to take their children back, I.

Just I feel sick at the thought of this. This is disgusting. Our children are our most vulnerable and they are the most worthy of the greatest protections that we have to offer them. This has been a catastrophic failure. It's a huge scandal. It's probably why they don't want to launch an inquirity into it, because they feel as though it's going to make them look like failures and they are.