The K-Factor With BeomhanKickoff show with Beomhan & Guest Sebastian Garcia (Rufio Hooks)
In the premiere episode, Beomhan dives into the latest K-pop news and gossip, sharing his unfiltered takes on everything happening in the industry. Then, hit songwriter Sebastian Garcia—also known as Rufio Hooks and one of the masterminds behind BTS's chart-topping hit Butter—joins Beomhan for an in-depth interview on The K Factor. They talk about music, the creative process, and what it's like to write for K-pop's biggest names.
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the first episode, the grand opening of The K Factor, Everything k Pop, hosted by Bomhan.
I am your host, Boomhan, and I am excited and a little bit nervous. We have been working on this podcast months now and I'm so happy to be able to bring it to you guys on this huge platform that is iHeartRadio. You guys can listen to this podcast on iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. This podcast The K Factor, Everything k Pop. It's about everything k pop. We're gonna be going behind the scenes. We're gonna be talking to songwriters, choreographers, idols, and artists who kind of just exist in the space. And we're also going to be bringing you K pop news, kpop gossip, album reviews. We're gonna be letting you know who's touring at the moment, the news releases, and just kind of what to be excited for in the world of kpop. This is your one stop shop for everybody who is a lover a fan of kpop. So thank you, and uh, let's get right into it. Actually no, let's not get right into it. I want to shout out you guys. You guys are the ones who kind of made this all happen, and to kind of give back to this idea, we have made you guys a huge part of this show. So you guys can call in when we're doing these exclusive interviews. If we're talking to your favorite idol, there's gonna be a moment where you can come in and call and ask them some questions. We're also gonna be doing live tours around the country, so you guys can come in and kind of participate, be on camera and just do this whole thing live. This show is for you guys, all right. So now let's get into it. K Pop News with Bomhan. What's happening. Let's talk the latest kpop comebacks, tours and gossip. The tours that we're paying attention to right now is TXC that's embarking on their promised world tour twenty twenty five starting from May three. Eighties is also announcing a new world tour and I cannot be more excited. It is called in Your Fantasy and I remember some of my best memories in life ever is going to an eighties concert and going to a BTS concert, and I feel like the energy that they bring with their dances is just so electrifying and I can feel it in like my veins and like in my heart when I go, and I feel like they make music specifically for concerts, you know what I mean.
So I am very excited.
I'm probably gonna find a way to get into these stadiums and I think you should too. Grab your tickets for TXT, grab your tickets for ATS, and these are all happening very very soon, so don't miss out. And speaking of TXT, TXT in the month of April has released their mini album on the first, Baby Monster has made their comeback with their EPA Monster on April first as well, and Boy next Door has made their comeback with their second EP, How on April fifteenth. April is a great month for kpop. May is gonna be even better because TXD is going on tour, So get your tickets and uh now, let's talk some of the trending stories. This has been a crazy month and I think if you guys have been on the internet, you guys have seen the YG leaks. Well that's a little bit of background and context for these YG leaks is that there was a YG employee who was fired and he wasn't happy, so he went and made like a discord, like an anonymous discord account, and he goes to a random discord server and he goes crashing out. He just dropped a bunch of information. He like confirmed some dating rumors and then all this stuff, but none of this is confirmed. You're like, We're like, oh, okay, buddy, right, And then he goes and he releases these training footage, unreleased training footage of girls from Black Pink, girls from two any One and just to all these trainees that are like ten, twenty.
Years old, and we're like, oh my god, wait, this guy's real.
Still none of the other stuff that he sells confirmed, but the video is real, right, And and this has stirred a bunch of controversy because in these videos has these these idols who are very, very crazy successful right now, and now we have footage of them saying and singing the N word.
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, what is going on? Girl? Get up? Girl, get up?
You know.
And then that's not even the craziest part. All these leaks happened one day before Kim Suhun's press conference. Kim Suhun is the highest paid k drama actor in South Korea. He is like Jason Tatum in the NBA. He makes the most money in the NBA. This guy makes the most money acting, Okay, and his has come crashing down because of the controversy where he allegedly allegedly Because none of this is confirmed yet, and I am just simply delivering the information I am I, I am just a messenger, Okay. He allegedly groomed a minor and it has led to her doing something very drastic that I will not kind of describe here. And you guys can look more into it, but be warned of the of it possibly being triggering.
But it is a very serious situation, okay.
And he holds a press conference with a bunch of news outlets and he's crying in this press conference. He's talking about all these serious things and he denies some claims.
It's a whole big thing.
And the league happens one day before this, so people are like, oh, like, is there a correlation? You know?
And this whole kimsu Filon thing is.
It's kind of, I think, in my opinion, deeper than just gossip, just deeper than God than te you know, all these things so if you guys want to look more into it, I'm not going to say too much about the situation. I think it's very sensitive prayers and thoughts to the family of the victims, and everything is still alleged and not confirmed. So I'm like delivering concrete information on this topic.
That's it.
You know, we have we have an Aties tour to look forward to, a TXT tour to look forward to. There's there's brighter things ahead.
Just kidding, Boom, Kiss of Life.
Julie has a birthday party and then they decide to do a fun little life you know, engage with the fans and then do something fun. You know, like they have their company, they produce like a little concept. You know, they're like, oh hey, like you know, like sometimes idols. They go like, oh hey, let's do like a QT concept for this birthday live Kiss of Life. They decide to go, you know what, let's.
Do hip hop.
Yeah, let's do a hip hop two thousands concept, right, and it went so south. They dressed up as a bunch of stereotypes. They had bandanas on, they had they have these oversized T shirts. They were They're playing into a bunch of stereotypes. That were a little distasteful, you know, I say a little, but to me personally, it was very distasteful, right, and it showed that they were very unaware of what these kind of things mean, and they're just kind of playing into that concept. And this is the tea, this is the gossip, this is what has happened this month, and and.
I I hope these concerts are good.
Atis please save please save us, txty, please save us. Moving on for our first episode, we have a very special and decorated guest and who has kind of graced us with his presence and to me, he is so amazing. Please everybody welcome Sebastian Garcia.
Fo foks, what's up man? How's it going? Brother?
What's up man?
I'm so excited to introduce you, and I'm going to tell the people a little bit about what you do because I'm kind of like reading this too, and I did not know you were this freaking awesome dude. So I'm going to read off this crazy list of accomplishments. So. Sebastian Garcia aka Ruphaiel Hooks is a Nashville based top liner that writes lyrics, melodies, and sings. His first major label hit was Butter with Bts, which spent ten weeks at number one on Billboard Hot one hundred charts and has over one billion.
Streams on Spotify.
Sebastian has also worked with artists including Miyabi Atlas, Cravity, Pit Bull, Minho, Bailey, Zimmerman, CRFW, Brelan, Big Time Rush, Stephlan, Don, Chris Brown and Gray and Bowman and Bama.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for joining me today and thank you for gracing us with your time. And I wanted to tell everyone kind of like what it was like to work with you and kind of just bring the behind the scenes to.
The front and kind of just tell everybody your story, you know.
Man, Thank you brother. I mean, I appreciate you having me.
Bro.
It's an awesome experience, you know, to be able to get in the studio with artists and you know, and to be able to like kind of open up with them.
So I appreciate you having me so i'd be able to talk about it a little bit.
You know, how long have you been doing this, man?
I think, like professionally on like the Scape, probably maybe four or five years now. But I mean I think everything I did beforehand is kind of what prepared me for the opportunities that I have now. So I mean that's a tough I would say professionally four or five years, but before that, I mean probably fifteen years, my whole life been chasing it.
I guess you've been writing your whole life.
Yeah, man, I think most most writers and songwriters, they kind of go from being artists to then becoming songwriter as well.
So it's like I've been writing and being an.
Artist and expressing myself creatively probably since I was like ten or twelve.
Mans as beautiful.
I feel like everybody has like their art, everyone has like their passion, and I think for you to be able to kind of like pursue that professionally and like kind of come to like a kind of be able to get to like a level where you can like just do it as such like a grand scale, you know, means awesome.
So yeah, man, I appreciate it, and I mean I'm beyond grateful you know that people have. You know, I've been able to work with so many people and it's like the fact that they want to even open up and share a side of their life that we get to talk about and put into a song is like unrealized.
I pinched myself every day about it.
Yeah, so you right closely with artists, right, Yeah, And I remember when we were in the studio, you were talking something about like, oh, it's like something that something that makes you happy is being able to see an artist like bring their vision to life through you and you kind of assisting in.
That, Like can you tell me about that?
Like like yeah, man, I mean I personally think like you know, like when we were in the studio, Yeah, as I was saying, like when people gravitate towards a song and they kind of like feel a certain type of way as we're building it up, we're creating it from scratch, Like it's really awesome to be able to be just kind of a little bit of a tool for the artists to say, hey, I want to say this, and then maybe I have the opportunity to say, well, what does that mean to you? And then sometimes making the way they see it and then me putting my perspective to it is like it helps them be like oh wow, I never looked at it that way, And that, to me is my favorite part.
Is like we both can look at a chair or a painting.
The painting hits you differently than it hits me, and it's our job in the studio to be able to find a synergy between both of those in order to make like an awesome painting or an awesome song.
You know.
Do you think that's something like uniquely to you or like kind of shared between all songwriters? Oh?
No, that's that's tough, Tokay.
I don't I definitely, I mean it could be, and maybe not. I don't know, maybe everybody else feels the same way. But like, I think people look at songwriting and approach their careers in songwriting all in different ways. You know, some people look at some people look at it as you know, I go in from sometimes if you're in Nashville, maybe eleven o'clock till four o'clock, and then they clock out and you know, and they become someone else.
Some people it is twenty four to seven.
You know, it's going in writing and then leaving and listening to that song five hundred times and being like, dang, this could have been better. So I think sometimes when people approach people approach creativity differently. And I'm and I'm just lucky enough that for me, it's it's I think it's twenty four to seven for me pretty much.
Yeah.
The reason I asked this is because, like I think personally you are super like personable, you know, Like first time I met you, I remember, I felt like I was just hanging out with one of my friends from high school.
You know, we're kicking it.
You know, you're you're like drinking like a red Bull and like all this stuff, Like you were dressed exactly like this in like the studio, and then I remember Damon, he pulled me aside, was like, dude, like this guy is a big deal. Like this guy like like you're You're in the presence of something great right now.
I'm like, oh, the guard drinking the ribble.
And I think, like I probably was definitely drinking the red Bull and probably in a sandwich or something because.
I really normally that food when I'm walking in the studio.
Yeah, So I was like, I was like, I think like that comes through in your art, you know, and I think you're able to show that and like channel that energy through people and like.
The songs and all this stuff. So I think that's awesome.
Thank you, man.
I mean I think again, I kind of go back to, uh, I kind of go back to the fact that like, uh, you know, to me, I'm grateful that I'm doing this every day, and so like when I get to be in the room with somebody, like you're getting one hundred and fifty percent of everything that.
I am when we're there. Wow, but thank you man. I appreciate those words.
Okay, have you had a moment where you felt like starstruck by someone that you've been in the studio with, where you like you haven't been able to be yourself you know?
Well, I mean I would say one was like my homie'es Grey, because they they're they're both two amazing songwriters producers, and I mean they wrote one of my favorite songs of all time called meet Me in the Middle. And I remember like kind of telling them like, hey, like, my starstruckness is not so much in the artist as much as it is in like songwriters and produce.
I really nerd out on that, like.
Oh wow, yeah, I'm like yo, that person wrote freaking one of my favorite songs. That person wrote for Chris Brown, that person wrote for Justin Bieber, And those types of things, to me are the ones that affect me, so probably like Grey, Yeah, because they just wrote Meet Me in the Middle with Maren and Zed and it won Song of the Year for the Grammys, and that's the biggest award you can get as a song right now, you know.
So yeah, going over their house.
Before I went over there, I gave myself a little pep talk in the car and I was just like, hey, why not be nervous And luckily they were such professionals that they helped me also like feel comfortable. And maybe that's why I feel like I always want to try to do that to everybody else, because the more you make people feel comfortable, the more people are willing to try to make mistakes. And I think mistakes always become learning lessons if you approach them that way, you know.
And you know this is a k pop podcast, you know.
And I feel like one of the biggest differences I felt like when I was recording in America here like with you, rather than like recording in Korea and like no knock on Like Korea, like they have like their own standard and their own own culture of like how they do stuff.
But it's very like.
Like like okay, like like like it's very strict you know, yeah, and it's like I think they work hard.
It's just a culture that really really works hard, man, And it's and I honestly like I did a lot of like studying when.
I went to Korea. A buddy of mine named Ryan.
June, he was putting on a camp out there and I was fortunate enough to be a part of it. A shout out to Ryan for you know, having me a part of that, and I got to meet such amazing people. But one thing I really immersed myself was in learning that like the Korean culture, like they really work hard, and it's almost normalized. You know, like six days a week is like normalized. Like that's not hard, that is just standard there. And so that's why I think sometimes it's like I remember going out there and we were working every day. We were like it wasn't some people think like we just go in the studio and just like party or like you know, let loose like what they think it is. But no, man's it was every day all day from morning till till night time. But when it's your passion, it's not really it doesn't feel like work, you know, It's just it feels like dang, like we could be anywhere else in the world, but we're right here magic, you know.
Yeah.
Well, so you went to Korea to like do this camp and all this stuff, Like, can you tell me about that?
Yeah?
Man, it's I feel like a lot of the K pop labels and k pop publishing companies do that a good bit, you know. They they they put on camps out there. You know, some people go out there for a week, some people go out there for two weeks, and you know, it's every day. You're getting to work with new people from all walks of life, from from Norway, from Sweden. Some of the best writers are from Sweden. Some of my favorite writers are from Norway and Sweden, honestly, And so you get to meet all those types of people and then you know, they give you ideas of where these are the labels that are looking, these are the artists that are looking, and you kind of dive in and you hopefully try to write something that they will like and they can start making it into their own magic as well.
You know.
Wow, and you congregate in Korea like yes.
Yes, I think I think that.
South Korea is the mecca brok. Yeah, but yeah, man, we all just uh they normally some of the camps are out there. I mean some of them don't. They all don't have to be in Soul Korea. Like some of the camps they hold them in Germany. I've seen something held in Switzerland. The good thing about music industry right now is it's after after COVID, it's become more It's become more, I guess, socially acceptable to like write with people from across like from from across the pond. You know, you can write with people in Europe while we're out here in Nashville. Before that, I never really ever did that. And now it's kind of normal, like we like it's not a problem. Before it used to feel a little weird. Now it huh, it's it's a little more normal.
I guess so because this, to me, this is so cool, Like I've never like explored this songwriting side, you know, like I'm more in tune with like the dancing stuff, like how people put together like these choreographies and all this stuff. Like so you're telling me, okay, this decision from how I understand it, You're telling me someone gets a camp together, right and they tell you who's looking for music right now? Like for example, like oh, like like maybe a company or like a group, like, oh like let's say NCT is looking for music. Yeah, and you guys are in this camp kind of like workshopping stuff and then trying to be like, okay, uh, let's write this song for n CT and you kind of pitch it to them. If they like it, they'll take it. If they don't like it, they won't take it.
Okay.
Yeah, And it's and and it's almost to the point where it's like if they like it, they'll take it, but they always come back with you know, ediots Okay, they because at the end of the day, when you write a song, you want to you wanted to make it be relatable to them, but if they're not always from the start, if they're not in.
The room, they have to hear.
It and then be like, Okay, now this is the way I would say it, and this is maybe something that is more personable to me. And then that that kind of goes into another rewrite process. Okay, well, let's rewrite it the way you would say it. And that's what becomes very unique and interesting. So the cancer to start the ideas and then the artist gets to put their expression behind it, and then we work back and forth to make sure that it cohesively works together.
How long does this process usually take if it's from like from camp to like like boom, see you hear it on radio?
Oh that see that? Now?
That just depends, man, I mean it can be different many times. I'm I know when it was with Butter and BTS, that was a faster process that one. They also work so ridiculously hard like BTS, Like those guys were in the studio them playing shows, then practicing rehearsal like filming, like filming content like, so they work at a very high face, a fast paced like workflow, but not saying that other people do not.
They also do as well.
So sometimes it can be like a song can take three years to come to life. Sometimes it could take six months.
Oh wow, Okay, So I think like the.
Key is really just trying to write.
At least for me, I try to write quality songs, but as well, like the workflow is like I want to keep writing because you never know. Sometimes the song you think is a hit now, maybe it's in a hit right now, but.
In two years, yes, when it comes out, yeah.
It could be the smash everything the hardest thing to do in this music industry is time things. You just kind of have to let it happen and see if the universe and the world wants to hear it or not.
You know, yeah, wow.
It's kind of like writing ahead of the current time a little bit, because you know it's going to come out later.
One hundred percent.
Man.
So every time I get in the room with like an artist that I've never had like the privilege of working with, I always I don't ever say, hey, play me what you have out. I just say, play me what you think is exciting to.
You right now, okay?
Because whatever if I'm working with somebody, whatever they have out, most times they're already moved on and they want to do something, something new and something fresh. So everything's always about I think, writing ahead of the curve, writing what you.
Think, and also just trusting your gut. You know.
I try a lot to just write what I also believe to be cool, like, and I think that that's very important because a lot of the times people want to write what they think other people will think is cool.
I just try to write what I think would be cool.
And hopefully I can live with that and instead of just chasing trying to be cool, just hopefully, hopefully what I think is cool hopefully resonates with other people.
Uh huh.
I think it's cool how passionate and involved you are in your own art and how seriously you take the art aspect of it and making it feel good, you know. Like for example, like I think there's a like a difference with K pop in that I see K pop as a vessel for all these different creatives to come through, and K pop is the platform that kind of elevates it, you know. Yeah, So like for example, like like uh, like you you mentioned that BTS they work super hard on their promotions, their content and like all these things, and like also their own music, and it's like like they developed this fan base that whereas like oh once once they have like an engine where you guys are the engine, like the songwriters, the choreographers and like all these things. Like once the engine starts running is like it's like a it's like a big it's like a big machine. Like for example, like when you were writing butter right, yes, and then you saw it take off with like the choreography, the big music videos. Uh, like all the streams that were coming in. It's different from working with like a Western artist.
Right, yeah, I mean it definitely is.
I mean, I think the levels, you know, they're there are different styles of music.
The level of choreography is, you know, it depends.
So if you're writing with a pop like a pop like TAKEM create, there's a lot of choreography and her stuff, But the choreo, I mean, to me, I've just found the dancers out there.
The choreography is on it.
It's intense, man, Like they've really they really know how to dance, like.
Really really amazing. And then you know the level of content.
The level of how many people were listening to me was like it blew me away, man, it blew me away. I've never seen anything like that before in my life. So it was definitely on a whole other level.
Honestly, How did it feel seeing like, like seeing that complete project for the first time on that scale.
Very very very emotional.
Oh yeah, beyond grateful, thankful that I was ever like I was able to be like a small piece of such a big journey like to me means something, and yeah, very emotional, you know, just like.
I definitely cried a good bit for sure, because I mean, you just don't know, like you don't know when you're ever gonna get.
An opportunity like that again, and it's very few people on this earth ever get a chance to do that. So for me, it's like maybe some of the overwhelmingness came from like kind of me just wondering.
I always ask this question, like why me? There's millions of people.
On this earth, billions of people on this earth, and I was one of the ones that got the honor and the privilege to experience.
A moment like that. So when I asked why me?
I always wonder how I can give back to the songwriting community that changed my life, and like, so maybe that's where a lot of the emotions came from. It's like now I feel almost a pressure of like how can I help somebody else try to achieve or feel that moment that dream for.
A little bit, like for at least once in their life, you know.
And if I can do that to somebody else, now, that'll probably mean more to me than than this hit could ever mean to me.
Honestly.
Oh wow, That's that's probably where a lot of the passion comes from.
For sure.
Is there is there? Like is there like a like a.
Particular like hardship you remember as like a songwriter like kind of coming up that like kind of like helped shape that mindset.
Yeah, man, uh, one hundred percent.
I think like you know, just growing up in general, and like you're seeing that this is something you want to do, but like there's being a songwriter like it was. It was such a weird like there's no blueprint.
You know.
It's like, hey, yeah, figure it out, you can do this, you can do that, but like nobody knows just sure fire right way to do it, Like and uh, I think it was very scary, and it was very like lonely knowing that you go into these rooms and you're technically in a way like pimping yourself out kind of like it's hopefully I'm.
Cool enough for you to want to write with me again.
And and and then at the same time, you know you're it's also a very vulnerable spot, like you're opening up sometimes writing really deep songs about personal things, and also you're opening yourself up to like you could say a line and people and you could be like, dang, they probably thought that was really stupid, And that's vulnerable to being allowing yourself to be silly or being awkward in the room, but sometimes that's silly.
Awkwardness is the magic that is needed in a song.
And so yeah, like it's you know, growing up, I think I noticed a lot of like sometimes like loneliness of just like dang it. I wish people would understand like how much I want this, And I think a lot of people do want it that bad. And I think that's kind of the driving force. Like I never had a backup plan.
Dude. It was like this or nothing. Nothing. I wasn't gonna take anything else.
And and that's why I'm again grateful that I had this opportunity and I just want to I mean, I want to keep it going and hopefully change other people's lives doing it.
Uh huh.
I s freaking beautiful, dude, Thank you, bro.
I wrote it down, So, like what advice would you give, Like a young songwriter is someone who like looks at this and goes like I want to write songs, but I have no blueprint, Like I don't know what to do. You know, someone who wants to write for K pop or like wants to just be a songwriter like anything, Like maybe you when you were like seventeen.
What would you say to that person?
I would say, keep keep writing, like find people, find people you really want to work with, work on your work on your social skills. I really think social skills is something that songwriters like don't focus on a lot. More like, sure, you can be an amazing songwriter, but I've also been in the room with some amazing songwriters that when I left, I didn't feel like there was a connection to or like I didn't feel like almost even a way like respected in some ways.
And some of those people you don't want to write with.
Again, I've found that it's not just how talented you are, it's how you make people feel in the room when you're done.
Like I think that's more important.
How people remember you is so much more important than talent, And I would tell them.
To focus on that, really focus.
Songwriting should be like brushing your teeth, Like you don't have to think about it, you just do it. That's what you do every day because that is your medicine. That is your drug of choice, you know, like being obsessed with being obsessed with something in some weird way is is almost like not really a drug, but you know, it's something that you need in your body. It's something that you want, and so I think songwriting should that should be natural to you. Now what you need to focus on is in the room, how you can make them feel like be really like be really locked in, Like don't be on your phone, like scrolling through Instagram while you're writing with people, like like, you know, definitely give them everything you got and people will sense that.
As the artist, we sense that if you're scrolling on the phone and you know, I'll like I'll I'm like, oh, like really, you know.
Just think about the message that that portrays, like hey, I'm scrolling through Instagram or I'm scrolling through TikTok while I should really be locked in. And then you know that can throw somebody off, you know, like and be like, oh man, maybe this person doesn't like what we're doing. And that probably isn't the case. Maybe they do like what they're doing. But you know, a d D is a real thing.
You don't got to tell me, yeah, man, yeah, And uh, I remember like you were asking, like when you were kind of like talking about like coming up and all these things you were and though and finding that big hit you were talking about like oh, like why me, or like what did I do to deserve this, like this wonderful grand thing. And I remember after we finished recording go in the studio, Yeah, I drove you home. I drove you back to your hotel, and then you gave me a talk in the car and you're like, oh, hey, this whole thing is about mindset, Like yeah, you have to believe that no matter what you do, you deserve what you're doing, and you have to be to star in every single room that you walk in.
And that's stuck with me. Dude, thank you.
Man.
I'm just like, yeah, that's ads. Like so excited to have this conversation today. I was like, yo, like spassions has some nuggets, you know.
So it's like you're like, man, I mean, I mean, I believe it, Like I really think. I mean, not even just as a songwriter, I mean and more so as an artist, you know, because I really think a lot a lot of songwriters were also artists in their own way, you know, and some of them are just people that like ended up just get having success in songwriting. I mean, Julian Michael is one of the most biggest songwriters to ever live, and she also wrote issues and she she released that song and that song did huge for her, So it was like, was she just a songwriter?
No, she was a creative the whole time.
And so I feel like every time I would say that, like when I did say that to you, like I meant it like, you gotta really believe and trust what you do, because if you don't believe and trust what you do, then why should anybody else do it?
Thank you, man, brother, no problem, Bron.
Appreciate you, man.
This has been an awesome freaking time. I mean, and you know, I'm glad that I got to share time with you in the studio man, And I love the platform that you're getting on, you know, expressing showing people insight into K pop, Like it's such a huge industry and you know the world needs more just love and sharing the way you're doing it.
So I appreciate you for doing that, man.
Thank you.
Man.
This whole podcast is about opening.
The hood of the car and just kind of checking out what's the engine behind K pop?
And thank you for being such a wonderful engine. Thank you for making this whole industry work.
Thank you for everything that you've contributed, and thank you for your art and thank you for being with us here today.
All right, my man, I'll talk to you lady there.
Man.
I love you, Broat love you see it.
Wow, what a first interview, what a first episode. Thank you Sabashian Garcia for your time today and shining light on the artistry that makes up K pop.
And this is what the show is about. I think I always cried.
During this interview, and you know that's what That's what we do around here.
Okay, we get real.
This is the K Factor, everything k pop hosted by Bohan Me And speaking of me, I have a single coming out, dum Dancing under Moonlight coming out this month, so please check it out. And you never know where we might pop out next.
Awsome you guys.
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