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Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Monday, The Jason Smith Show with my bass friend Mike Harmon. What's going on Joe Positivity. For over forty years, tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive. Ship fast and free back by free Road, has protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tirerac dot com. He is the way tire bind should be. Hopefully you had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. Spend some time reflecting on why we have this weekend. Remember, some gave all and it's just one of those things to think about as we enjoy the last few days and why we can and uh, you know, I want to say this because you know the open the Knicks and everything. I want to say, how am I after yesterday? I'm gonna surprise you. I'm good. I'm good because what the Knicks did was they bought a day. They bought a day, they bought a game. Right, they didn't do it. They bought a game. The series could have ended and instead, okay, we bought a game. Now they gotta go get game four because down three to one, you see what happens down three to one coming back from them. Oh, it's fine, but they bought, they bought a day, they bought a game. And I'm happy, but I'm not sitting here with choke gestures with the Pacers blowing at twenty point. I will save that if we win the series. But I'm not. It's they bought a game. They bought a game, they bought a day. It's okay, great, you you found a way back in a game that made absolutely no sense. It made no sense. The Knicks won this game. Karl Anthony Towns has four points through three quarters and then he just hits for twenty in the fourth. Like Brunson doesn't have a big How did they win it? This game? This series makes absolutely no sense. So okay, but that's I'm okay, I'm not insane. I mean, that was insane Jason Nicks fan. But but now I'm like, okay, you know what, we're right on the edge right now. Things things aren't going as we thought. But that's basically what the Knicks did. They bought a game, and now it's all about game four because really you could say, well, they won the one. Yeah, they could go home. No, you don't go home to win three game. You don't go home and then leave it and come back. Oh yeah, we'll just hit fast forward on the button to win three games. Doesn't happen that way, doesn't it? How you go back?

Game one obviously one that was so.

Soul ripping, we don't need to talk about it anymore, all of that, but talk about it.

No Game two, close game you talk about that end psychologically jarring. At times, Karl Anthony Towns was either wearing a cloak of invisibility or he was John Cena and you didn't see it. Game three, for a good chunk of that, he didn't. We saw Shamitt check in and a lot of folks looking at around, going okay, Tibbs has truly lost his mind. Now the synapses aren't firing, and we got some craziness because now the guys are getting extra minutes. Well you get eleven from him, thirteen from right. Josh Hart, who more or less benched himself in all of his comments. Between Game two and Game three, he comes through with some of the biggest rebounds where suddenly he's playing like he's eight feet tall on stilts. Yeah, I rebound after rebound and big play. And for Karl Anthony Town it's like someone activated. You hit the switch on the back. Just be good, Like, how did you get it's bad? You know, kind of a thing. I don't know.

I got four points in the first three quart and all of a sudden taking the heat check threes in the fourth quarter. I'm saying, how the hell did this?

There's like nine memes of him that came out of that fourth quarter, some of the passes, some of the Hey, look at the words that he's mouthing here as he's running up and down the court. He got called for that insane travel And I don't know that I've ever agreed with an announcer more than listening to Stanban Gunny just incredilously going. So that was called here why yeah, like on several foul calls, like yep, I'm with you here, Stan, but all, don't try to break.

This series down because it doesn't make any It doesn't it make sense.

Kalen Brunson sitting on the bench and suddenly there's some activity and the Knicks are playing better. Basketball comes back in, helps to finish things off. Six of eighteen from the field. They're gonna need a better version of him, and he and Kat are gonna have to figure out what their problems are. But you bought a day. You bought a couple of days. And look, the first two games, as much as they may have been jarring, were close games. Right, gave one away? Okay, fine, you rally, you took one back.

What was it The New York Posts back page was chokes on them. It's pretty good.

I mean that's pretty clever. I like that with a giant picture of cat screaming and losing his mind, which is great. But now we get back for game four and let's see what other magic tips can find in terms of lineup switches and juice that you can get. McBride gave them a couple of big shots. He also tried to shoot them out of the game a couple of times.

You don't try to make the day. It makes no sense, It makes absolutely no shallow May showed up, shout him May, shouta May, But you got Frostburg. I totally that went in a different direction than I thought it would be. What what direction you think it was? Your whole take on the Yeah, I tell you they bought. They bought two days.

I thought you were gonna go with you were talking about things that were numbered.

I thought you were gonna go with, I'm enjoying my knicks are numbers. Well, yeah, we gotta win three more games here and then four more in the finals. Not it's I I can't think too much that they bought two days. It's what they did. They bought two days and now. But if they lose game four, that's it. You're gonna go back home and win where you've already lost twice. Then you need to come back to Indiana and win, and then I mean, I know, Caitlin Clark's not playing, but then you're gonna go back in Madison Square Garden. Yeah, I know, I know, but it's yeah, well, clearly, clearly the big panic move by the Pacers bringing Pops Haliburton back, which we'll get to. But no, really, I mean they bought a couple. I'm not lying as I'm not gonna sudden turn the mic off and go yeah like you. But no, they they they bought two days that's what. No.

But I mean we go back to the end of last week. For those joining us for the first time, welcome aboard Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon. Here Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app nearly five hundred affiliates nationwide, uh and ever growing entity that we are globally uh normally riding the lightning and the open would suggest as such, you've been fairly measured. I mean, a little sky is falling towards the end of last week. But oh the sky had fallen after game, but it had already fallen down. It had fallen down and crashed, and we were picking up the on Friday, it became me, well, if they get a game, but you were looking forward to getting swept. We started talking about Tims maybe out sure, putting up pictures of Danny Hurley. Yeah, Giant Heart that said d yes, Nick, how do we get Yannis, how do we get Yannis?

That?

What kind of package can we put together for Yannis? All of these things okay by that kid? So I don't know if you want Hi if he can get beaten off the dribble, that fast.

Towns in anunobi for Janni's the money works, We'll give throwing a throwing a couple.

But I would say this right, we're watching game four now of this Western Conference Finals, and in game three e that series, suddenly he had a re emergence of Julius Randam. Remember he did a disappearing act in game two. Uh, in this series he came back just fine. So Cat did the same in the fourth quarter. Now put on a cape and wrote it out to a victory.

It's funny you say we'll have more on this series. And yes, the return of John Halliburton coming for game four.

I'm in a glass case of emotion.

But where we sit right now, Thunder lead the t Wolves early in the third quarter, sixty eight sixty four. Teal's get a couple of buckets out of the break and again on display is exactly why I picked the Thunder to win this like I picked the Thunder from the beginning of the playoffs, you had the Wolves. You and I are opposite sides of this, But what have I said from the beginning? I have more confidence that SGA is going to be consistently great over the course of this series than I am Anthony Edwards, because ant Edwards still gives you games where you're saying, where the hell is he? Right? Game one was a no show right then suddenly okay, picked up a little bit in game two, Game three, Your blog great, But I told you there's a couple of times a series where Aunt Edwards doesn't show up, and you can't do that again. You can do that when you're playing teams that you have an advantage against that are playing well, but a team like Oklahoma City, you can't have your best player not show up for two of the six or whatever it's going to be. And tonight, An Edwards in the first half took two shots. Man two shots and Edwards two shots, four points in the first half of this game. Okay, there is no world in which it and Edward the next Michael Jordan, the next Lebron James, the next Criptra. There's no world in which which he takes two shots in the first half. What are you doing? Really? I mean, you're lucky you're still in the game. And luckily they were because hey, McDaniel's had a big first half and that was good. And he had points off the bench, now, Alexander, so that's good, right, yeah, And Devincenzo's got a three. You know, you're hitting some threes off the bench. Is what's keeping you in this game? Oh, if you didn't keep turning the.

Dam ball over too, I meant a number of mindless turnovers and sequences. They had twelve in the first half, don't I.

Don't know how. I don't know how the next great player that and Edwards and it's this second game where he's had a big no show the entire game one and now the first half of game two. He does have a bucket early in the second half, but he's taken three shots right now that he's take Hey, take eight shots in the first four minutes. But this is where I mean, really, how do you have to take three shots in the first half. The face of the league doesn't take two shots in the first half of the playoff thing?

Right, It's like I understand the old let the game come to you to a degree. You're in the Western Conference finals, and I can also understan, Hey, you've got a bunch of all NBA defensive players in that Oklahoma City lineup right. We talked a lot about Dort who's getting the tuna run right now. We talked about Alex Cruz, so what he's been able to do. All of those things are fine and exciting, but you need to have a stamp on this game, right You can't say, hey, look what Kat did last night, and I'm gonna do that, but you know, we'll hang around and then all of a sudden, I'll have this offensive explosion because guess what, it may not come.

And you're also not a big guy that can.

Go in and impose your will down low and and force contact, work through contact and make things happen. For Edwards to be this passive, it's maddening. Absolutely, you're a Minnesota fan or you're a member of that staff, You're you're going, what are we doing? Or you want of people that wanted to anoint him as the next Michael Jordan for the last twelve months shaken out of context.

I mean, look when he shoots his jumpers like Jordan does, and he's got the he's got the sweat band up on the sleeve, like Jordan do Dude, George, Well look what Jordan doesn't do that. Jordan doesn't take two shots in the first half of a must win playoff. But look look what he did on on Saturday, right that the first quarter? What was it? Fifteen five and two? Yeah, I just said, this is my game? Yeah great, and this is look and it's not like it's one thing. And I would not rip Aunt Edwards if his first half was he had four points and he was two for twelve from the floor. Take that shot. You know us, You're the superstar, You're support You're trying. He's trying to get into the game. He's trying to affect the game, and my SHOT's not going right. This is where it happens for Shay Gilders Alexander. What does he do. I'm gonna get to the free throw line because it's what I do, and this is how I'm going to affect the game. I'm gonna slow it down for me. If I'm not hitting, I'm gonna play make a little more. But I'm gonna continue to be the score of my teens. I'm gonna get to the line because that's how that's how you do it when your SHOT's not falling. This is Ann Edward's like, like there's there's possessions on offense where I go, Where the hell is he? Like, I'm watching the first half going you wouldn't even know he was on the floor a lot I do it. He's never even in geats, Like he didn't even engage to try to get into the game in the first.

Half, last two possessions down misses a wide open three and now tries to go into the lane and has his money taken from him.

Man, I'll tell you man again, this entire series has played out exactly why SGA is that superstar that comes out and finds a way every It's what the best superstars do. They always find a way to affect the game. And and Edwards had a couple of games in a series where boy really needed more, Boy really needed more, and usually those are ls and that's why you wind up losing the series. Now again, they're lucky it's this close because you are getting a big effort from your bench and and the threes are falling for the most part. But still did I mean, you gotta have this game. You gotta have this game. You're coming out after beating the Thunder by one hundred and fifty on Saturday, where I think the game started out and it was and it was twenty three nothing out of the gate, and now here's a game where it's like, okay, we're doing this again, right, we feel all kinds of confidence.

You know.

The Thunder. The way they talked after game three was, hey, man, this was shocking. We have to do a bunch of things. We have to So you know, they're reeling looking for an answer because they thought we're gonna come in and roll over Tho. It's what we've done the first two games. This way, you come out again, we make sure no no hope for you, and we are gonna send you back now. If your shots aren't falling again, that's one thing, But there's one thing of trying to get in the game and not doing it and then just just hanging out say yeah, I'm good you guys, shoot I'm okay.

But again, most of that first half they shot very well. I mean there was a point where it was, hey, we're at sixty five percent, but we turned the ball over ten times. And so you have a deficit you're looking at. Williams had a huge first half four to six from three point range. Thus far Sga obviously getting his work done. But yeah, we're on the side of the mill cart and for Anthony Edwards and what he has tried to express himself and be part of the action these last couple of possessions. I tasted the milk. It was sour.

Meanwhile, we could see a huge streak coming to an end because my Carolina Hurricanes up to nine over the Panthers shot with thirteen minutes left, they could break that fifteen game Eastern Conference Final. Losing thirteen minutes still a lot of time, Still a lot of time. Yeah, but still it's our first time we led this whole series. No get a picture exit out about a Fresca exit swelling down The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you never miss our very best Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Well, coming up next, we'll keep you post on everything going on in the NBA, Big stuff in the NFL. Jason Lock and for stops by with all the latest on what could be a continued, prolonged, protracted quarterback battle in Cleveland, and more Jason and Mike Fox.

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App Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon Heat. Uh. Just when I say, hey, Carolina could be breaking that fifteen game Eastern coverce fact they took the second goal from the Hurricanes away for offside coaches challenge overturns it so won nothing. Carolina lead over Florida in the period. Meanwhile thundering the te Wolves. This guy, I told you the Nicks and the Pacers make no sense. This game makes no sense, and Edwards has six points. Yet somehow the Tea Wolves and Thunder are tied at seventy nine apiece because the Tea Wolves bench is absolutely going crazy thirty.

Nine points off the bench thus far, including nine to three point boy.

Uh yeah again, trying to make sense the NBA playoffs sometimes is very difficult joining us. Now I'm the hot line, longtime NFL insider man, it was paying a lot of close attention to this game right now. You can check him out on Odyssey one oh five, seven, the Fen in Baltimore, Washington Post, on Twitter at Jason Locke and four it is Jason lock and for what's happening?

Man?

How are you?

What's going on? Gentlemen?

Buddy? First, I want to say sorry about the turfs today, Big Run beat Syracuse. Sorry about the turfs, but uh, you know, hey, big run, Big Run.

I saw a stat the team that plays in the second semi final is four and fourteen in the last eighteen national championship.

Well, I find knowing that I would have gone to Vegas today. How about you? About you? How about swing you a text on that earlier today?

I didn't know it. I didn't know it's collaborates. I know Colasorate. No, I'm never going to forget the hell lacrosse. By the way, I have I have bet college cross. Okay, I won't say like I do bet college lacrosse because that would imply it it's like a fairly regular thing. But has it occurred more than five times in my life.

Yes, okay, all right, very good, four and fourteen.

I'm not great at it. I'm like three and two. I mean I'm not. I'm not I'm not particularly good at it.

Yeah, well, at least it's legal. I didn't know if betting on lacrosse is even legal.

Oh no, I mean I don't know if it's legal everywhere, but like all the apps here because it's big, you know, in Baltimore, like I can get I get lines on pretty much anything, like not even just big conferences like CIA and stuff.

Yeah wow, okay, all right, so what's your big What was your big line tonight for thunder t Walls? What do you have?

My favorite bet in this game was the over to eighteen and a half. I'm also on the thunder money line.

All right, very nice, very nice looks so far.

I don't know.

I mean thunder money line looks. Okay, you're too eighteen, I don't know, but you're your thunder money line looks all right?

Oh no, I would say the opposite. I would say that, well anyway, I don't like talk best.

The Alexander Walker threeball all.

Right, all right, all right, so so all right, football here we go. So today some reports that potentially cur Cousins is the Steelers plan B if things don't work out with Aaron Rodgers. Now, first things first, are things really not going to work out with Aaron Rodgers? And we're going to be talking about this.

He's a weirdo, so you know, I mean, like, yeah, he's sure it could go thru He's sure he could completely change his mind down the road. Sure he could decide he wants to hold out for something different or I don't know, sexy or something closer to a rainforest or a jungle or something like that, you know, where he can get all the get all the medicine man stuff he needs. I mean, I don't know how you could feel good about any sort of business arrangement with him. And yeah, I mean, look the Falcons, we talked about this in the past. The Falcons have to get real about Kirk Cousins and what they're doing. And it's salary dumping out a football trade, and that owner to this point has been unwilling to eat what he'd have to eat to get back real assets. So he's trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's saying, I want some money to take all this off my hands, and I want, you know, I want to get back what, you know, what is commensurate with the contract that we take Kirk Cousins and people are trying to tell him that that that's dead money, that that you're not going to get that. And you know, Sam Donald didn't get what he thought he was going to get, and Matt Stafford didn't get what he thought he was going to get, and you know Field probably didn't get it was kind of did okay, Russ definitely didn't get what Russ thought he was going to get. Aaron Rodgers is not going to get any close to what Aaron Rodgers got. And Cousins is more in that you know, sort of bin of quarterbacks than he is the Purties, you know, and those guys who didn't get what they want. So it's an ownership deal. I mean, they could have traded him before the draft. They should have traded him before the draft. But the owner won't eat salary.

But I gotta I gotta think, though, Jay, that as time goes on and Cousins is around the team, right because now we've had time, but yeah, well we t time when Cousins around the team and they realize, oh, this really isn't going to work. That's what's going to happen. But I think what's killing them now is that, well we're still in the off season where were you know, mini camps over waiting for camp to start. But once that happens, it's, oh, man, where we can't we can't go forward like this. This is a real big distract. This is bad for the team.

Well it's just silly, but I mean, it shouldn't take that having to happen for them to be realist about the situation, you know, Like I I I just think they've look, they've been buffoon's about the quarterback position really since Matt Ryan started going downhill, and now this penis thing might have you know, might have bailed them out. We could also add, you know, they didn't need Psycher comes to draft pic that it was obviously a little weird that owner can't get it right at quarterback. He gave you know, Matt Ryan one more extension than he had to, and it's been crazy since then, you know. I mean, these are the same people that didn't want to make a phone call to Lamar Jackson because they had Desert Rider that's a fact. So yeah, I don't know how to handicap that, because you know, it's when it's a billionaire who doesn't want to cut out, you know, five six, seven, eight million dollars off of a contract to trade it. It's kind of like you're not pregnant until you are. And the fact that they would need to see the dysfunction in their quarterback room with their own eyes to know it exists also seems silly and myopic to me and shortsighted. But you know, look, I don't think he's gonna be there week one, whether that's traded in the next two weeks to Pittsburgh, or traded right on the eve of training camp, or traded when somebody gets hurt somewhere in training camp. It would seem kind of silly to have that dynamic with the backup making twenty times more than the starter sitting on the bench waiting to see if the kid fails. That just doesn't seem to me a lot of sense.

Took me a second to recover from the Desmond Ritter reference there, Jason.

It took me.

It's like a punch of the face, like, yeah, I remember those conversations all right now, let's let's have a little bit of fun, the fun and exciting world of flag football, and now the complaints of hey, we want to get a real shot. Can we get a couple of open tryouts and workouts between NFL players and the would be professional flag footballers.

I mean, I have so less than zero interested in this. I gotta say, like, am I maybe I'm on an is on here and it's just I'm getting home, you know, I'm on the other side of fifty now, and I like this whole thing just seems like the biggest crock of like PRBs I've ever seen in mine. Like the NFL is gonna get enough publicity. Now we want to get up a fake controversy to get even more time spent people bloviating about us to people have used comments as anymore in the old my newspaper background, I guess there's no comments just whenever on the web, which is unlimited web space, like just wasted on this faux controversy, Like, I mean, who the hell else in the world is playing any degree of football in any way, shape or form that like we would have to go out and like through our superiority.

It's gonna look like the Dream Team the first time they played in basketball in ninety two.

I'm gonna be in these brackets like Lebanon. Oh, we're in a bracket with Lebanon, Lebanon and Grenada.

Like what come on, man, hey, they could put they could put us in.

Like sixth country with us in the Group.

Of death with Canada and England. You know they could do that Australia.

Sure, I do like the Dream Team reference, though maybe we get like the Subruter film, like the Dream Team getting beaten by the College All Stars right for the last thirty plus.

Dude, I mean, but this is really stupid, Like we could send a group of high school kids, like not even like the best high school kids in the planet, just the best seven on seven like under fifteen team in the state of Texas. Like it doesn't even have to be nationwide, it doesn't have to be regional. You could pick one of five states instead a bunch of fifteen year olds. Like what are we doing talking about NFL athletes doing this? Like it's just like like, come on, why don't you give them to have a skills competition? Like they turned the damn pro ball into and let's let's play other countries in that. Like I don't, I mean really, I don't know that. Jason, do nothing for me.

Jason locking for our guest to Jason Smiths with Mike Carbon live from the tirec dot Com Studios. I thought you'd like my group of Death thing. Now that's pretty funny.

I mean yeah, yeah, like you how many you couldn't could you even do a twelve team tournament? Like and even the remotely quasi serious about it, Like it's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

I will let let's get back, you know, place in the NFL.

Competition. Well, yeah, I got an Olympics Andy Reid.

No, no, no, we haven't seen that enough. We just keep showing that Andy Reid video over Hey, it's Andrew Reid.

Yeah, you could just send that version of Andylon, that version of five of them over there. Let them take care of business.

We're sending five Andy Reid's five five.

Year old, like nineteen seventy eight. Yes, let's ai that up and then let them take care.

That's the spin off of Mickey seventeen. It's not Pattinson anymore. It's Andrew Reid.

All right, so I didn't know how much I would enjoy this, but I am enjoying it very much because this is the earliest quarterback derby that I could ever remember paying attention to with everything going on in Cleveland and the way that Stefanski says, well, it's going to be Flacco and pick It are going to compete, and it's gonna be Sanders and Gabriel gonna compete in and every day it's here what Sanders does in seven on seven? Like I didn't know how to feel about it, but I can't get enough of it, man, because we have a quarterback derby going on and it's May and that's fantastic.

Yeah, it's it's gonna be a different level of scrutiny now and I and look there is there's They don't get to have these guys on the field unlimited time, Like we all know two a days got done away with a long time ago, and a lot of these drills like they're special teams and there's special situations that's only going to really involve the starter. So like the three other quarterbacks, like there's not that much work to go around, Like you have time constraints, you have things you're trying to accomplish certain sessions and more geared towards the defense, and they're gonna want to be tested by the ones like that. There's a lot that goes in today, so you know, there's only so many snaps, there's only so many reps, there's only so many hours in a day, and there's only so long you can keep them on the field. So yeah, everything will be obsessed about and everything will be picked apart and dissected, and yeah, it's kind of interesting. So I mean, I don't know any of them are any good, but I like, I don't know that i'd want to go to war with any of them. Like Placco to win like one playoff game and he's totally rested and comes in off his couch. Yeah, like Flacco for week one to try to help me navigate an eighteen week gauntlet.

Super Bowl champion Joe Placco, as you were calling, hey, Orioles winners of three straight. Uh, you know, folks starting to get excitable or is it still sky's falling?

Dude? Do you know how the standings work?

I'm a white Sox guy, so yeah, I'm very very well well versed in that.

Yes, yeah, I it's over. They need to sell people and get real about the future and fire the GM like that. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. One today Kelly Martin looked today. I mean, hey, like the pitching starting pitching all of a sudden has come around. I still don't really believe in this lineup. Hope we'll say he's I would say him tomorrow. I would. I would say him tomorrow.

Because they've won too many games. All right, it's gonna come back to us now. We've won too many games in a row. Oh, I hear you. I hear you. Check him out on Twitter at Jason lock and for Washington Post one of five seven the fan in Baltimore. Of all the great lines, all the great points you made in the last few minutes, people are gonna walk away and go second game of the lacrosse Semifinals four and fourteen in the championship game, jayleb awesome. So I'll never forget that one man. I'll put that much remember next next.

Memorial Day, three hundred and sixty days from now, when you can put it to years.

Yeah, I'm gonna set a timer on my phone so I get I'll get it in three hundred and sixty days. We're all good. Yeah, perfect, See you buddy, Finn. Thanks Jason. I mean think about that the last eighteen lacrosse because of course Cornell winning the national championship today in lacrosse, beating Maryland, Maryland and knocked out Syracuse on Saturday. You play this second game on Saturday, four and fourteen in the last eighteen national chip that's like whoa, whoa, that's like gold.

Like you get here in a stat like that, and then you just go find your your local online wagering.

Worst of the way, you go gold, Jeriot's Gold. Speaking of gold, we are into the fourth quarter in Game four of the Western Conference Finals. For an update on this and everything else with what's trending in the wide world of sports, Martin Whites has it for summed up. What do you got my friend.

Arren Shannon at the free throw line, he's now score ninety two to eighty nine. They've got good minutes out of Terren Shannon in Game three and four of Minnesota Timberwolves. He has eight points right now. It's a good thing too, because Anthony Edwards has only taking seven shots. He's got ten points thus far. So far, this is under eleven minutes left in the fourth quarter. Timberwolves also being leaden scoring well being Legen scoring by Dante DiVincenzo, nikiirle An, Alexander Walker, and Jayden McDaniels. It's been the those guys because Anthony Edwards again only seven shots ten points, Julius Randall even less five shots, one for five, Hope for two from three for five points. The MVP of the NBA Ja Gildis Alexander has twenty nine points right now, two for seven from three to eleven for twenty five from the Florid JDub Jayalen Williams with twenty two, chet Holmgren adds fifteen. Everybody else for Oklahoma City in single digits again, the score at ninety five to ninety one, ten eighteen left in the fourth quarter. Minnesota trying to tie this series up two to two in the Western Conference Finals Eastern Conference Finals, Carolina trying to keep their series alive. Florida leads that series three games to none. With two minutes left in the third period, Carolina has a one goal lead.

Oh make it two nothing, Martin Wise, the streak is gonna end for us. We're gonna win the first Eastern Conference Final game since I was in my thirties. There go Carolina two nothing. They're gonna break that streak and it's gonna be three one. But still the streak is over.

Well, Jason Smith took care of that one, so I'll go ahead and move on to baseball.

Hey, let me take care of baseball for you. I love sacrifice flies by the best players on the team. Shut up, I love. I love Francisco Lindora's sacrifice flying the ninth Mets beat the White Sox, and you should be happy for me.

It's about to say Francisco Lindor in the Battle of the Jason Smith and Mike Carmon ball.

Yeah happy, My bullpen continues.

Here's the thing.

Your team is going nowhere. Yeah, you know that you're just a run of the mill bad team. My team has hopes and dreams. You should want your team to lose to mill bad for me to be happy. Right now, we're record holders for futility. It's about to be eclipsed by Colorado. You see what the Rockies are doing right right I was helping Martin now, was helping him.

Out with his updates.

I appreciate it. We got two games in.

Actually right now, Marlins lead the fare three to two, top of the eighthing a bottom.

Of the fourth inning.

Yankees lead the Angels four to one again in the Western Conference Finals, ninety nine to ninety four, but just under nine minutes and thirty seconds left in the fourth quarter. Now you two bicker among yourselves.

Ah, thanks very much, Mark appreciated, Buddy. The Jason Smith Show with Mike coming. Oh it's three nothing now, Oh it's three nothing. Nobody beats us sixteen straight in the Eastern Conference Finals. Nobody, nobody to carry any of these goals over, not at all. But it doesn't matter. It's about because that would be nice. By the way, two emptying head goals. They all count now look just the same like club side top.

Shelf, Jason, Yeah, we got fris What does it mean the Panthers got you right where they want?

Yeah?

Well, hey, I'm just happy to win one. Let's let's end this streak at fifteen street losses in the Eastern Conference Finals, which is going to happen now. The series will go to Game five coming up next. We got the play of the day coming your way, and evidence that one team in the NBA playoffs that you think is really confident seems to be running scared from their opponent. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Funny thing. My wife this weekend went to Hermosapear. She goes with the friends.

Every year.

They have big eighties bands that play hermosa yeah right crazy. She goes down, not happy with the bands this year. Wasn't happy. Wasn't happy. Could have said Hans said and said here, Well, I didn't know you were there. I wasn't there.

I didn't but I'm right down on the street. I would have met you for saying.

Which I was. I said, I wasn't there. I didn't go cold, I didn't go. And so she goes here. They're playing all these songs at stink and she sends me here watching and I watch and they're doing They're doing this song. I'm like, well, yeah, I fell for that. I feel like rickrolled. Yeah.

Yeah.

She rickrolled me. She Rick rolled one hundred percent unbelievad shout.

Out, Pam, nice work, Pam.

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There was Hurricanes Radio Network or Kenny ALBERTNT. Rather. Hurricanes win three nothing, two empty net goals. Thank Covin with a big goal, great shot, short side up, over the shoulder, and Carolina keeps the Eastern Conference Final alive, winning for the first time in this round of the playoffs since two thousand. I thought they were good. They're good. They're okay. Here's the thing, we're good. We're just good enough to get to a point where you think we could be great and then we're not no good.

To great, right, I mean there's there's a both sold millions of copies. Yeah, a lot of people are good.

Not one, not one time? Could could we win one game in the East Finals in June first, two thousand and six? Long time, man, that is a long time. And every time we get there, I'm like, all right, this could be Nope, nope, oh no, no, we're going home and for Okay, all right now, but this time it's good. Oh nope, nope, going home and for but wait wait no, nope, going home and for you.

To be fair, I mean, you know, we talk about my team's futility alongside. I mean the White Sox World Series victory was a few months prior. I mean, it's not a whole lot there, Bob uh So, congratulations, Way to go, Kines. Uh Now, it's they have to win the next three. But let's just do little baby steps, baby steps, right, just like, what about more baby the Knicks, the Knicks, Hurricanes, the next win more?

Really yeah? Oh hey, sure, sure the Knicks win the next three. They win four in the Finals, so they get seven more. Yeah, that's how it goes. Although this is going against when I said, oh, hey, you know, I'm not tiving, but speaking of the Knicks, right, this is of all the stuff today, this is what made me feel the most optimistic about Game four. Okay, okay that today the Pacers lifted the ban of John Halliburton. Right, Tyres Halliburton's dad is now allowed to go to home playoff game. Still gonna stay home on the road, not gonna get to sit on the sideline where he can actually walk on the court and be a nuisance, but he's gonna actually get to be in a suite to watch the Pacers Game four against the Knicks. You know Halliburton, who was the Pacers band after they eliminated the Milwaukee Bucks. Haliburton goes out stands in front of Yanni's trolls him with a towel. Really bad luck, and so the pacaid, okay, we're gonna ban you. But I don't think there's any coincidence that the ban is lifted right after they lose Game three and they blow it twenty point lead. They're running scared. Now, the Pacers are scared. What can we do to flip the momentum. Hey, let's bring Halliburton's dad back. That might get Tyrese Halliburton back in a great frame of mind, get him back to being the unbeatable to Halliburton like he was the first two games in the series. Boy, you talk about losing one game. What can we use? What's the trump card we have that we could play right now? It'll help us forget Oh, this will give us an emotional lift. Let's unban Tyrese Halliburton's dad. Pay, I see if I see this today and the Knicks I go. They're scared. They're looking for some Everything was great, all kinds of confidence, laughing choke jesters. Oh, now they're scared because I again, they could have done this for game three. Why didn't you do it for game three?

Right?

Why didn't do it for game three?

Oh?

We lost and we need that, We need that little bit of edge. So let's bring Halliburton's dad, Becket. I'm the Nicks. I'm saying the Pacers are panicking after losing one game at home.

It's well, you try to find motivation from wherever you can. If you're the Pacers, you're hoping for that emotional lift. You're at home, get some extra juice. Uh, And obviously you've had a lot of celebrity's run to his aid and call for him to be reinstended. Now he'll be in a glass case of emotion up there in the booth, So it's not like he's he's out court side and can really create chaos unless they put him in the mascot outfit and all of a sudden, there he is at center card ah back. Otherwise, I man, that's a temporary thing. But yeah, if you're the Knicks right now, you're looking for every bit of counter that you can. So yeah, that's bulletin board material. Hey they're running scared, we got this back. How much that actually matters versus getting quality minutes again from Landry Shammitt and the like. Eh, you decide what the weight is on that. I'll give bulletin board one percent, because again they're professionals. But for the pacers, if they think this is gonna inject some kind of energy to the crowd or make Halliburton feel better about his life, both junior and senior, then have at it. I always said he should have been a booth anyway away from everybody, and don't make it an.

Issue because I have one idea that might be even better. Because I love your idea, but I got one idea that would be better. I'm afraid to even ask. Nah you sent Haliburton next to shallow May and it's Shalamay and John Halliburt, shallow May, Shallow May. Why is this? Why is this guy getting shadow May, Shadow May and Haliburton Shadow May, shout him May Shadow May? And in is he sandwich between him and Spike?

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Well, Spike, I had to get back from from can and all this stuff. No, no, you put him next to shallow May. This this is this is right now?

Uh No, shallow May is better. Shows go go right to Hanson, Tracy Morgan. I mean we could go on forever.

Well then, and then you can have one of those cool nicknames like when you know, like Bennifer or whatever, and it would be you know, Shalliburton, Shallibert, shalliber Calibert and Shalla Halliburton, Shalla Maliburton, Shalla Mala Haliburt.

Well, you get him very close to Shallamar. That'd be kind of.

Shod dancing in the sheets, dancing. Why are you trying to Shalliburton maybe can sit next to each other. They call it shallibur Patten Penin, sit in jail shadow Hey shatam hey, shatam hey.

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We get back into basketball, coming up next to nine point lead for the Thunder plus a huge devastating injury in basketball that has rocked the world earlier today, We get into that next right here, Jason and Mike, this is Fox Sports Radio, hashtag Shalliburton and Williams who is sitting around going Okay, I'm standing howdy out here, I gotta take a shot, and he hits a three and that pushes the lead back out to seven. One of those demoralizing possessions.

Uh.

Defensively, you know you saw it, You saw it unfolding. As soon as that happened, you said, that's gotta kill them, that's gotta kill them.

But like that had several sequences in a row, the Timberwolves where they're playing great defense, shot clock winding down and then the ball gets knocked away and tapped to a teammate. You had one earlier, chet fighting up towards the just pass the free throw line, has it knocked away, has presence of nine to just slap it back towards the baseline where he's got a teammate waiting for an easy layup, like it's just been a couple of sequences like wow, that is the worst because you committed to playing team defense, You're getting the ball out of the playmaker's hands and it's just finding the right Hotthand I mean Jalen Williams on the night thirteen to twenty four, he's up to thirty four points, six of nine from three point range. You got Gilgess, Alexander thirty five points, only eight free throws in the game, So the free throw merchant chants and everything that are certainly alive and well but not existing here. But just great balance from the rest of the Timberwolves to be keeping a game because both Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall have some explaining to do.

Right now, it's a five point lead for the Thunder. It looked like it was gonna get cut to two, but Chet Holmgren McDaniels goes in for the spinning lefty layup and he pins it to the backboard. Oklahoma City comes out with the basketball. They have it now with thirty five seconds left to go, a five point lead that could have been disastrous for Oklahoma City. But check with an absolutely huge your guy, he'll be the one arm, he'd be the one armed. He'll be the one name Supers. There was a man in my house. He had one arm. He'll be a one named superstar pretty soon. He'll just be chet twenty one to seven for him. And that was his third block of the game. Another big effort from home. Grin, you got a big three working for OKC. So time out on the floor. Right now it is Oklahoma City leading Minnesota now one twenty three to one twenty one. After Anthony Edwards misses a three, the rebound is picked up, a three is hit by Minnesota to make it a two point game. So make it one twenty three to one twenty one. However, now Sga at the free throw line because Minnesota had to foul, let a few more seconds tick off the clock. You expect him to shake Gilders Alexander the free throw line. He is seven for eight for the game. He has a chance to potentially put this away making two, but still in a very subpar game for ann Edwards, Minnesota still has a chance here. With fourteen seconds left.

Jade McDaniels hit that three. He's up to twenty two on the night, three of six from three point range. You've gotten great contributions off the bench. You'll look at a total of sixty two points coming off the bench from Minnesota in this game. Stevencenzo with twenty one, Alexander Walker with twenty three. The two of them combined ten of sixteen from three point range.

So here we go again, fourteen seconds left. SGA makes both free throws, so it's a four point lead. Minnesota timeout with fourteen seconds left to go again. Now time getting a little short, and you see SGA is arguing with the official about something. I mean, I know why they send you the free throw line all the time. I would, I would be very nice for the officials, but this is kind of where we sit.

Well, that's it. Julius Randall, though one of seven from the field, zero for three from three point range, he has hit three of his four free throws, so he got that going for you. But five points, four turnovers, and a big minus three A non factor offensively much of the night. Anthony Edwards, as we talked about last hour, went into halftime with four points. Thanks a lot of standing around. This puts you into the Hey, the Hall of very Good among current players. Right of what am I expecting from you game to game? That's not a good place to be.

Commercial break now, so we'll get back to this game coming up in Definitis again. It's gonna be a little bit to the end. It's probably some free throws going on one eighteen one four or sorry, one twenty five one with fourteen seconds left to go. Meanwhile, the other big story out of basket ball today, Caitlyn Clark is hurt and she's gonna miss the next two weeks with a quad strain that she suffered in the game against the Liberty on Saturday. And and you know, two big takes on this. The first one is that nothing should tell you that she's the biggest star in sports right now more than the reaction when this story first broke today. When when this first broke and it's on social media, well, because nobody knew she was hurt, she finished the game, she was upset about not getting a foul call at the end, and it's like, okay, it's like whoa. People devastated for Caitlyn Clark, devastated for the league, devastated Kitlyn Clark as well. This is a two week quad injury, right, this is not where hey, hey, she's done for the seat, Like you know what reminded me of It reminded me when Brady got hurt and he got knocked out for the year, when he had the when he had the acl tair back in twenty eleven. Right, I want to say in two thousand and eight, it might have been when Matt Castle had to come in he got when he got hit in like week two, right, somebody And I can't who it was. Yeah, oh man, I remember what. Oh no, it was hang on, you said, Jeff. He was holding on to to Tom Brady. It was so whoever it was was somebody that did it a couple of times hurt, a couple of different quarterbacks that came in low and injured. And Brady's out for the year in like week two, and you're like, sorry the Chiefs, Yes, Bernard Paul. So he gets hit and he gets knocked out for the season. It's whoa Brady is. This is the middle of Brady's run. Is the best quarterback on the planet. And the shock and oh my god, we're losing him. It's the whole season Brady is out, Matt Castle comes in. It was actually the last time a team won as many games they did in the regular season didn't make the play I think they won eleven game that didn't make the playoffs. But that was the reaction for Kaitlyn Clark today. What's gonna happen? What games is she missing? Like, we don't do this if Lebron is out, we don't do this when Giannis is out. There's when Brunson or any other big stars out. We don't do it in the NFL when guys. But suddenly it's whoa Caitlyn Clark? If anything, that should tell you how that she's the biggest star in sports right now, not the big star in the WNBA, not the biggest star in basketball. The reaction to her injury should tell you everything. We can talk about TV ratings and what her games are doing compared to NBA playoff game. We could do that till till you're blue in the face, and Kaitlyn Clark is always gonna win. But you want to see just the reaction on the on the street of what people think when this story broke today. That was what I saw all over social media. The reaction for Kaitlyn Clark.

We had all the estimates of what she means to the league, and start going down all of those path Sports Business Journal and all the Supruter film of what play did she get hurt on? There she is at a time out and it looks like she's got you know, a heating pad an apparatus fixed to her leg, going back to the quad injury she had in the preseason.

Say no, no, no, not related other leg.

You know, really as much of a deep dive as you're gonna get, but certainly a lot of people gripping going. It's only two weeks, right, right, Please only be two weeks. When you talk about the number of nationally tell games that you've had with the fever, the number of arenas that have been sold out, right, talk about it with the Atlanta Dream and some of these other games where you're getting massive gait. Now those tickets are sold, those aren't going away, and you've got other stars to sell. But let's call it what it is, what stirs the drink for this league. And you know, when we talk about the pantheon of women athletes right now, she's sitting alone, right even with all the individual sports and greatness that we see across Olympic sports, across tennis and whatever else. Caitlyn Clark rules it all. So any injury that takes her off of the playing field for any length of time, it doesn't necessarily mean that that magnifying glass goes and finds another star. Plenty of great athletes and stars across the WNBA, oh yeah, make no mistake, absolutely, but they're not the same. Come on, Angel Reese is gonna put the league on her backs. Look, man, I saw the graphics someone put on on social media. I want to give for its off to rediscover it. But it was shooting percentage for Angel Reese is thirty five and change, and it said trying to make her shots. And then it had Jontay Porter, who was suspended forever for fixing games, and he had a higher field goal percentage.

If you really want to have a conversation about Caitlyn Clark and best players in the game making, Caitlin Clark and Asia Wilson, Right, there's Kate, Caitlyn Clark and Angel We told you a year ago, and everybody else needs to be jumping on this now. Angel Reese is Dennis Rodman right, she's Dennis Robin. She's a rebounder, and she's a big star, and she's a star off the floor, and she's someone that has a lot of fame. She's not nearly the player. Caitlyn Clark is right, if you want to have that conversation, that's really where it is. But congrats everybody else. It's coming around to this a year before we did. Natalie took it a year.

I mean, what are you gonna do.

The other thing I will tell you is this is that by game I thought it would be earlier, but by game thirty ish in the W, the Fever will be generally considered the best team in the W. Right now, they may not have the best record, but they made a lot of changes to their team. They only brought back five players, right, you have some players they are still trying to figure out their way in.

Right.

You still kind of got to Euston, Natasha Howard and Dwanna Bonner. You have a lot of moving parts.

Right.

And so you saw them play this game Saturday. They should have run away from the liberty, but the liberty of the champs, and they knew how to close a game. And clearly the Fever are still trying to figure that out with their new players, their new situation. I'm not saying, Look, they lost the game. You can't complain about fouls at the end. Not a foul on Kaitlyn Clark on the final play was a steal. The ball was taken, legit. You can't see her playing out Yep, it was, but you could tell, Hey, these are the champs and this early in the season, the Fever were running them out of the building. But again, because you're the champs, you know how to come back in this game. You know how to lock down of what they needed to do, and the Fever are still figuring it out. But once they do, and how Kitlyn Clark will probably miss the next five ish games, So give them another fifteen or so games, get into the the last third of the season, and the Fever be considered the best team in the WNBA. They added so much talent. It's another year of dominance for Caitlin Clark. Now it's gonna be a little bit more because you have the new players just trying to fit in and now Clark's not gonna be on the court for a company. Shouldn't be that long. When she gets back, but yeah, okay, go, so another fifteen to twenty games after she returns, and then you're gonna see the Fever will be the best team in the w

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