After ambassador is expelled, what next for the US and South Africa?

Published Mar 16, 2025, 5:30 PM

The US declares the South African ambassador 'persona non grata' -- citing his criticism of the Trump administration. South Africa expresses regret at the expulsion of its envoy, but is taking no action in return. Can relations be repaired?

In this episode: 

  • Melanie Verwoerd -- Political analyst and former South African ambassador to Ireland
  • Mark Pfeifle -- President of PR firm Off the Record Strategies and former U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications  
  • Frank Gerits -- Assistant Professor in the History of International Relations department at Utrecht University

Host: Dareen Abughaida

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