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All Right, it is a Tuesday at Tom Brady in one hour Tuesday Live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Nick Right, Tom Brady, Mark Sanchez, Herd Hierarchy in one hour full show, jam Stack Show. So you know Jimmy Johnson Jmack was on our show, How wat You Go? And one of the things he said, and this is one of his montros, is that you lose a lot more games in the NFL than you win. And that was Jameis Winston and Cleveland last night. First downs Cleveland had more passing, first downs Cleveland. Third down efficiency Cleveland was better. Fourth down Cleveland was better. Passing yards, Cleveland was better. Possession dominate time of possession. Cleveland was better. Yeah, they had those pick six things. You lose a lot more games than you win. And Jameis Winston was exhibit a. Last night, bow Knicks never took a sack. Jamis Winston took a couple of beauties, like really badly time sacks. Bow Knicks had two picks. One was a deflection, one was like a change of possession downfield of punt. Jamis had two or pick six is in one in the end zone. So sometimes a quarterback needs to be boring and manage the game. Jamis Winston is never boring. He's evil Canieval at quarterback. He's a w fucking bachelor party. He's a parachutist who forgets his parachute. Those skydivers don't last long. Bo Knicks, however, as a rookie, had a sense of timing when to let it loose and when not to And last out last night was a shootout, and shootouts happened in the NFL. And Jameis Winston, of his eighty five snaps, you went wow with about a dozen of them, and then you went uugh with about four to five of them. Now bow Knicks had just sixty six snaps. He had a couple of wows, but it was mostly there we go at a quarterback. There you go, slide, get down, get the first down again. Very few wows, but bo Nicks didn't really have a Oh no, and that's Jamis's career. I'd argue, Jamis Winston is arguably the most talented quarterback in this league. I would never build around no, thank you. He would drive you nuts also, And I thought this was really telling. And I've said this before. A coaching staff will tell you what they think of your young quarterback by what they allow him to do. It's almost like with your kids. You will tell me how much you trust your kids by what you allow them to do. Sean Payton multiple times with a lead against Miles Garrett and the Cleveland pass rush, Sean Payton allowed bow Nicks multiple times to drop back deep in his end zone. He trust the kid. That to me was telling Jamis Winston's a quarterback with a ton of talent, size arm, nobody trusts him. Sean Payton's like kid, let her rip go down the field, roll out and Cleveland with a lead. He's a rookie. Yeah it's okay, And to me, that was telling. And everybody keeps asking, well is Denver for folks? Look at the boxes that playoff teams that win games. Check head coach Denver a plus quarterback, capable pass rusher, Nick Benito, elite offensive line, PFF ranks Denver number two weapon, I love Courtland Sutton cornerback best in the league. Every playoff box they check coach, quarterback, pass rusher, weapon, o line, elite corner check, tech check check. I could argue Kansas City didn't have all those boxes checked. Now they've got Mahomes and it's only bow Knicks. But this was a classic example. This game didn't look anything like Denver thought it was gonna look like. And bow Knicks didn't have a lot of wow. But he didn't have six Eh, what was that? Here's Sean Payton.

All Right, it is a Tuesday at Tom Brady in one hour Tuesday Live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Nick Right, Tom Brady, Mark Sanchez, Herd Hierarchy in one hour full show, jam Stack Show. So you know Jimmy Johnson Jmack was on our show, How wat You Go? And one of the things he said, and this is one of his montros, is that you lose a lot more games in the NFL than you win. And that was Jameis Winston and Cleveland last night. First downs Cleveland had more passing, first downs Cleveland. Third down efficiency Cleveland was better. Fourth down Cleveland was better. Passing yards, Cleveland was better. Possession dominate time of possession. Cleveland was better. Yeah, they had those pick six things. You lose a lot more games than you win. And Jameis Winston was exhibit a. Last night, bow Knicks never took a sack. Jamis Winston took a couple of beauties, like really badly time sacks. Bow Knicks had two picks. One was a deflection, one was like a change of possession downfield of punt. Jamis had two or pick six is in one in the end zone. So sometimes a quarterback needs to be boring and manage the game. Jamis Winston is never boring. He's evil Canieval at quarterback. He's a w fucking bachelor party. He's a parachutist who forgets his parachute. Those skydivers don't last long. Bo Knicks, however, as a rookie, had a sense of timing when to let it loose and when not to And last out last night was a shootout, and shootouts happened in the NFL. And Jameis Winston, of his eighty five snaps, you went wow with about a dozen of them, and then you went uugh with about four to five of them. Now bow Knicks had just sixty six snaps. He had a couple of wows, but it was mostly there we go at a quarterback. There you go, slide, get down, get the first down again. Very few wows, but bo Nicks didn't really have a Oh no, and that's Jamis's career. I'd argue, Jamis Winston is arguably the most talented quarterback in this league. I would never build around no, thank you. He would drive you nuts also, And I thought this was really telling. And I've said this before. A coaching staff will tell you what they think of your young quarterback by what they allow him to do. It's almost like with your kids. You will tell me how much you trust your kids by what you allow them to do. Sean Payton multiple times with a lead against Miles Garrett and the Cleveland pass rush, Sean Payton allowed bow Nicks multiple times to drop back deep in his end zone. He trust the kid. That to me was telling Jamis Winston's a quarterback with a ton of talent, size arm, nobody trusts him. Sean Payton's like kid, let her rip go down the field, roll out and Cleveland with a lead. He's a rookie. Yeah it's okay, And to me, that was telling. And everybody keeps asking, well is Denver for folks? Look at the boxes that playoff teams that win games. Check head coach Denver a plus quarterback, capable pass rusher, Nick Benito, elite offensive line, PFF ranks Denver number two weapon, I love Courtland Sutton cornerback best in the league. Every playoff box they check coach, quarterback, pass rusher, weapon, o line, elite corner check, tech check check. I could argue Kansas City didn't have all those boxes checked. Now they've got Mahomes and it's only bow Knicks. But this was a classic example. This game didn't look anything like Denver thought it was gonna look like. And bow Knicks didn't have a lot of wow. But he didn't have six Eh, what was that? Here's Sean Payton.

After some games go maybe in a direction you think they're gonna go. Obviously that one went in a much different direction. It was good to get the win. That's important because we're in this you know, we're at that time of the season into December here where all these things matter, and you know we were able.

After some games go maybe in a direction you think they're gonna go. Obviously that one went in a much different direction. It was good to get the win. That's important because we're in this you know, we're at that time of the season into December here where all these things matter, and you know we were able.

To do that.

To do that.

Okay, So if you look at the playoff picture, the Broncos get a bye, and then they get a host Indianapolis, the closest AFC team to them in the playoff hunt. They'll be favored in that game and should be Denver at eight and five week off, perfect timing off a win, feeling good, hosting an offense that can't throw the ball with any consistency Indianapolis. I think Denver wins goes nine to five. And again, if you ask yourself, are they for real? Do they check the six boxes? They check all of them. Little young at quarterback, but sixty one college starts makes you feel pretty good about that. In the way Peyton Letts bow Nicks run around in the end zone tells me all I need to know. He trusts him in big spots. Okay, so I said this yesterday. I think j Mack brought this up. We were talking about is the Bears a good job? Well, so Kevin Warren the president. They could have hired Jim Harball last year, but Jim Harbor didn't like Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren used to run the Big Ten. They don't like each other, and so that's not gonna happen. And you, you know, so you just kind of retain Matt Eberflus, who you know, came into the season on the hot seat, so hot he's gone. But yesterday Kevin Warren made a pitch that this is a really good job, and he may be right.

Okay, So if you look at the playoff picture, the Broncos get a bye, and then they get a host Indianapolis, the closest AFC team to them in the playoff hunt. They'll be favored in that game and should be Denver at eight and five week off, perfect timing off a win, feeling good, hosting an offense that can't throw the ball with any consistency Indianapolis. I think Denver wins goes nine to five. And again, if you ask yourself, are they for real? Do they check the six boxes? They check all of them. Little young at quarterback, but sixty one college starts makes you feel pretty good about that. In the way Peyton Letts bow Nicks run around in the end zone tells me all I need to know. He trusts him in big spots. Okay, so I said this yesterday. I think j Mack brought this up. We were talking about is the Bears a good job? Well, so Kevin Warren the president. They could have hired Jim Harball last year, but Jim Harbor didn't like Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren used to run the Big Ten. They don't like each other, and so that's not gonna happen. And you, you know, so you just kind of retain Matt Eberflus, who you know, came into the season on the hot seat, so hot he's gone. But yesterday Kevin Warren made a pitch that this is a really good job, and he may be right.

We're going to have plenty of salary cap space, we have a young, talented roster, we have strong draft capital in the upcoming draft, and we have a quarterback in Caleb Williams who's shown he is very special and in the right environment, he can become even more special than he already has shown. You look up all of these elements. As we sit here today, we are in a unique situation. This will be the most coveted job in the National Football League this year.

We're going to have plenty of salary cap space, we have a young, talented roster, we have strong draft capital in the upcoming draft, and we have a quarterback in Caleb Williams who's shown he is very special and in the right environment, he can become even more special than he already has shown. You look up all of these elements. As we sit here today, we are in a unique situation. This will be the most coveted job in the National Football League this year.

Now, at first I thought, give me a break, mccaskey's never had a four thousand yard quarterback. And then I started thinking, well, there were questions about the Chargers, but they had the quarterback right. There were questions for years and years the Spanos family, Uh, they're cheap chargering. I mean, there was a lot of stuff about the Chargers. They moved to La played in a small stadium, Is it right? And all of a sudden You're like, yeah, they got the coaching staff right if they had the quarterback. So I thought about the job opening Chicago, the Jets, the Saints, probably the Jaguars, the Cowboys. I tend to think the Giants in Cincinnati should retain their coaches. Not sure if they will, but I would so. If you're talking about what did Jim Harball what was he attracted to? It's quarterback. And the two best would be Chicago and Jacksonville. Now the Jaguars have the younger, richer ownership. That is something. And also the Jaguars plan a much easier division. Whoever gets that bears job. Good luck against Green Bay and Detroit that have stacked young, ascending rosters, and good luck with Minnesota, who they may have the best coach in the division. But I was thinking about these two jobs in Chicago, if you win, and I think coaches have to have healthy egos. The great ones do the Sean Payton, the Belichicks, the Vraybuls, Andy Reid. You know, I mean the best coach is McVeigh Shanahan. There's a confidence. You know, some will say arrogance, but I think it's a confidence. And here's the thing about Chicago. If you win in Chicago, You're a rock star. Chicago had Oprah and Michael Jordan and Ditka and Mayor Daily and Wrigley Field and Belushi and Farley. Jacksonville, Hey, they're opening a Chipotle next Wednesday. I mean even if you win there, I mean, Jacksonville's where mobsters go to hide. Chicago was the mob like it matters more. Chicago historically, architecturally, politically, it's big. Chicago is big. Yeah, the division is going to be really tough, but I mean Trevor Lawrence or Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence is on what his fourth injury. Even when Jacksonville's been good, the whole country's like, can we get back to the Steelers and Patriots and Manning and Brady and winning games? Like Chicago matters. It's dysfunctional. Their politics and their sports are dysfunctional. Their history's fascinating. I just think there's a rock star quality to it. And if you look at what the best coaches generally look at, and this is why the Jets job is dicey. Not only do you not have a young, ascending quarterback, you've got an old, prickly one and Aaron Rodgers who's increasingly expensive in Dallas. I like Dak. Everybody likes Dak, but as the highest paid player, he's at BB plus quarterback coming off another injury. I think Chicago's the best job for a lot of reasons, and one of it coaches have egos, and if you hit it in Chicago, you're big, and that matters. There are certain franchises the late John Madden used to tell our management all the time, certain games sound big. Green Bay against the Niners. Who knows whose quarterback it sounds big, Ravens Steelers, even when Kenny Pickett played, it sounds big. The Bears can't get quarterback right. If the Bears are playing Green Bay tomorrow, they could be oh, you'd be like, oh, it's a Packers and the Bears playing. And I think that stuff matters. And for that I do think. And Caleb Williams and Montez sweat Jalen Johnson, Keenan Allen col come at DJ Moore, I think it is the best job I've reconsidered. I mean, also, I get Caleb for three more years minimum on a rookie contract. That matters too. I've already paid Trevor Lawrence and he's expensive. And has it lived up to a contract. So I think the Bears is the best job. J Mac.

Now, at first I thought, give me a break, mccaskey's never had a four thousand yard quarterback. And then I started thinking, well, there were questions about the Chargers, but they had the quarterback right. There were questions for years and years the Spanos family, Uh, they're cheap chargering. I mean, there was a lot of stuff about the Chargers. They moved to La played in a small stadium, Is it right? And all of a sudden You're like, yeah, they got the coaching staff right if they had the quarterback. So I thought about the job opening Chicago, the Jets, the Saints, probably the Jaguars, the Cowboys. I tend to think the Giants in Cincinnati should retain their coaches. Not sure if they will, but I would so. If you're talking about what did Jim Harball what was he attracted to? It's quarterback. And the two best would be Chicago and Jacksonville. Now the Jaguars have the younger, richer ownership. That is something. And also the Jaguars plan a much easier division. Whoever gets that bears job. Good luck against Green Bay and Detroit that have stacked young, ascending rosters, and good luck with Minnesota, who they may have the best coach in the division. But I was thinking about these two jobs in Chicago, if you win, and I think coaches have to have healthy egos. The great ones do the Sean Payton, the Belichicks, the Vraybuls, Andy Reid. You know, I mean the best coach is McVeigh Shanahan. There's a confidence. You know, some will say arrogance, but I think it's a confidence. And here's the thing about Chicago. If you win in Chicago, You're a rock star. Chicago had Oprah and Michael Jordan and Ditka and Mayor Daily and Wrigley Field and Belushi and Farley. Jacksonville, Hey, they're opening a Chipotle next Wednesday. I mean even if you win there, I mean, Jacksonville's where mobsters go to hide. Chicago was the mob like it matters more. Chicago historically, architecturally, politically, it's big. Chicago is big. Yeah, the division is going to be really tough, but I mean Trevor Lawrence or Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence is on what his fourth injury. Even when Jacksonville's been good, the whole country's like, can we get back to the Steelers and Patriots and Manning and Brady and winning games? Like Chicago matters. It's dysfunctional. Their politics and their sports are dysfunctional. Their history's fascinating. I just think there's a rock star quality to it. And if you look at what the best coaches generally look at, and this is why the Jets job is dicey. Not only do you not have a young, ascending quarterback, you've got an old, prickly one and Aaron Rodgers who's increasingly expensive in Dallas. I like Dak. Everybody likes Dak, but as the highest paid player, he's at BB plus quarterback coming off another injury. I think Chicago's the best job for a lot of reasons, and one of it coaches have egos, and if you hit it in Chicago, you're big, and that matters. There are certain franchises the late John Madden used to tell our management all the time, certain games sound big. Green Bay against the Niners. Who knows whose quarterback it sounds big, Ravens Steelers, even when Kenny Pickett played, it sounds big. The Bears can't get quarterback right. If the Bears are playing Green Bay tomorrow, they could be oh, you'd be like, oh, it's a Packers and the Bears playing. And I think that stuff matters. And for that I do think. And Caleb Williams and Montez sweat Jalen Johnson, Keenan Allen col come at DJ Moore, I think it is the best job I've reconsidered. I mean, also, I get Caleb for three more years minimum on a rookie contract. That matters too. I've already paid Trevor Lawrence and he's expensive. And has it lived up to a contract. So I think the Bears is the best job. J Mac.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Love when you have a good Reconsider why I slept on it, especially after I present the fact you did, and I was a little dire, and I, you know, it's just been such a mess there.

Love when you have a good Reconsider why I slept on it, especially after I present the fact you did, and I was a little dire, and I, you know, it's just been such a mess there.

And then I went home and I thought about it, and I thought, boom, check check check check. I like their players, we both like their talent. We both like their tight end receivers. We thought a year ago they thought their tackles were good enough. Now they regress badly under a defensive coach. My guest says, if you get the right coach, it's like Denver by the Way two years ago, before Sean Payton got there, we thought the broncos O line was a good left tackle and nonsense, pff has it number two? Well that's Sean Payton. He got at the top ten last year. Now he's got at the top too. Andy Reid, by the way, is constantly rebuilding the online in Kansas City. They always find a solution by the trading deadline or November. So I kind of think it's the best gig.

And then I went home and I thought about it, and I thought, boom, check check check check. I like their players, we both like their talent. We both like their tight end receivers. We thought a year ago they thought their tackles were good enough. Now they regress badly under a defensive coach. My guest says, if you get the right coach, it's like Denver by the Way two years ago, before Sean Payton got there, we thought the broncos O line was a good left tackle and nonsense, pff has it number two? Well that's Sean Payton. He got at the top ten last year. Now he's got at the top too. Andy Reid, by the way, is constantly rebuilding the online in Kansas City. They always find a solution by the trading deadline or November. So I kind of think it's the best gig.

So the New Orleans Saints job is open. You know that division is going to be winnable every year because nobody's good. But is there any talent on the Saints compared to the Bears. It's night and day.

So the New Orleans Saints job is open. You know that division is going to be winnable every year because nobody's good. But is there any talent on the Saints compared to the Bears. It's night and day.

It's not even close. I think the You know, I would rather have a different ownership group in Chicago, but I don't know. I mean, And also, the Bears have again they've got the eleventh pick, and if you look at their schedule, they'll probably end up with the eighth or ninth pick. And this draft is considered very top heavy, so that many people are saying there's only about ten to twelve for first round players this year. The Bears will get another one.

It's not even close. I think the You know, I would rather have a different ownership group in Chicago, but I don't know. I mean, And also, the Bears have again they've got the eleventh pick, and if you look at their schedule, they'll probably end up with the eighth or ninth pick. And this draft is considered very top heavy, so that many people are saying there's only about ten to twelve for first round players this year. The Bears will get another one.

I mean again, Raiders job could be open. I mean, Pierce has got him, he's fighting, they're fighting hard. He seems clueless. Is that a good job compared to the Bears.

I mean again, Raiders job could be open. I mean, Pierce has got him, he's fighting, they're fighting hard. He seems clueless. Is that a good job compared to the Bears.

Well, I get I will the Raiders is interesting. I get Brock Bowers, who is the best young tight end I've ever seen. He's a tight end. I get Max Crosby, an elite pass rusher, and I get Colton Miller left tackles. So there are three boxes. Star weapon, left tackle, pass rusher. Okay, so I have a new GM who has a history oft drafting pretty well. I mean, Harball took over the Chargers. They got some good players, so there's some boxes there. I like. But if you don't have a quarterback. Now, the hit rate for quarterbacks is going up over the last six to seven years. More than more of these guys are not only hitting, but the guys that failed Gino Darnold Baker, they're being reborn with better offensive coaching than ten years ago. So I just think if I have Caleb for four years, I don't have to pay him in this roster. I'm gonna deal with Lions and the Packers excellence. That's a better job.

Well, I get I will the Raiders is interesting. I get Brock Bowers, who is the best young tight end I've ever seen. He's a tight end. I get Max Crosby, an elite pass rusher, and I get Colton Miller left tackles. So there are three boxes. Star weapon, left tackle, pass rusher. Okay, so I have a new GM who has a history oft drafting pretty well. I mean, Harball took over the Chargers. They got some good players, so there's some boxes there. I like. But if you don't have a quarterback. Now, the hit rate for quarterbacks is going up over the last six to seven years. More than more of these guys are not only hitting, but the guys that failed Gino Darnold Baker, they're being reborn with better offensive coaching than ten years ago. So I just think if I have Caleb for four years, I don't have to pay him in this roster. I'm gonna deal with Lions and the Packers excellence. That's a better job.

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Well, Seattle's not gonna win shootouts. They're zero to five if they're asked to score, if they give up more than twenty five points, and Gino Smith has been sacked nineteen times in the last four games. He throws too many picks. But I like the coaching staff. I like their perimeter, talent at wide receiver and corner. Their pass rush better than it was in previous years. They're a top ten team. I don't know if they can win a playoff game maybe, but I'll put Seattle at ten, number nine. I like Denver. I think they have one of the best coaches, maybe the best coach after Andy Reid in the NFL. They've won five of seven games. Their only losses the ball Timore in Kansas City bo Nicks eight and three over his last eleven games, does not make a lot of mistakes. Their offensive line quietly Sean Payton an offensive coaches rebuild it in two years. PFF has it at number two, Denver at nine, number eight, Baltimore. Listen, they're only team in the league averaging four hundred yards. Mark andrews Lamar Jackson's a Flowers, Dereck Henry. There's a lot to like. Special teams. Bit of a liability now, justin Tucker. It's called age mid thirties. In the back end of the defense outside of Kyle Hamilton, worries me. I'm gonna put them there. They're scoring defense is bottom quarter of the league, so that worries me. It's like having a bad bullpen. You can outplay people and lose games. I have Baltimore at eight, number seven, Sammy Darnold. Eventually I was right. He's a baller. Leads the NFL with forty six completions of twenty plus yards. This is not a dink and dunk offense. They will throw the ball down the field. Weavan O'Connell is really a spectacular coach. They are seven and one in one score games. That's not just Darnold, that is coaching. Vikings at seven, number six Pittsburgh Steelers. I think they're ceilings a little bit low, but they're five and oh against teams that are five hundred or better. It's a classic Mike Tomlin recipe. His teams have always played well as underdogs or backed into a corner. Russell Wilson say what you want passer rating in the fourth quarter of one hundred and twenty. He's good when it matters, And to me, that's a team that can win a playoff game. Or two. Number five Green Bay, they're still a tad young. Are they a super Bowl team? Poy does Jordan Love have a whipman. He's got some talent. They become a power run team now. They play at Detroit Thursday. I actually kind of like him in that spot. They're top five and total offense and rushing offense. They become more of a power running team now with Josh Jacobs, and I'm here for it. I do feel there's still a year off Green Bay at five.

Well, Seattle's not gonna win shootouts. They're zero to five if they're asked to score, if they give up more than twenty five points, and Gino Smith has been sacked nineteen times in the last four games. He throws too many picks. But I like the coaching staff. I like their perimeter, talent at wide receiver and corner. Their pass rush better than it was in previous years. They're a top ten team. I don't know if they can win a playoff game maybe, but I'll put Seattle at ten, number nine. I like Denver. I think they have one of the best coaches, maybe the best coach after Andy Reid in the NFL. They've won five of seven games. Their only losses the ball Timore in Kansas City bo Nicks eight and three over his last eleven games, does not make a lot of mistakes. Their offensive line quietly Sean Payton an offensive coaches rebuild it in two years. PFF has it at number two, Denver at nine, number eight, Baltimore. Listen, they're only team in the league averaging four hundred yards. Mark andrews Lamar Jackson's a Flowers, Dereck Henry. There's a lot to like. Special teams. Bit of a liability now, justin Tucker. It's called age mid thirties. In the back end of the defense outside of Kyle Hamilton, worries me. I'm gonna put them there. They're scoring defense is bottom quarter of the league, so that worries me. It's like having a bad bullpen. You can outplay people and lose games. I have Baltimore at eight, number seven, Sammy Darnold. Eventually I was right. He's a baller. Leads the NFL with forty six completions of twenty plus yards. This is not a dink and dunk offense. They will throw the ball down the field. Weavan O'Connell is really a spectacular coach. They are seven and one in one score games. That's not just Darnold, that is coaching. Vikings at seven, number six Pittsburgh Steelers. I think they're ceilings a little bit low, but they're five and oh against teams that are five hundred or better. It's a classic Mike Tomlin recipe. His teams have always played well as underdogs or backed into a corner. Russell Wilson say what you want passer rating in the fourth quarter of one hundred and twenty. He's good when it matters, And to me, that's a team that can win a playoff game. Or two. Number five Green Bay, they're still a tad young. Are they a super Bowl team? Poy does Jordan Love have a whipman. He's got some talent. They become a power run team now. They play at Detroit Thursday. I actually kind of like him in that spot. They're top five and total offense and rushing offense. They become more of a power running team now with Josh Jacobs, and I'm here for it. I do feel there's still a year off Green Bay at five.

Number four.

Number four.

Okay, my final four teams are the teams I think can win a Super Bowl. Kansas City Listen, he's been sacked Patrick Mahomes has five times in back to back games. I don't like the protection right now at offensive tackle. They're getting Isaiah Pacheco back that helps play action. They eleven and one in one score games. Their point differential is the lowest ever for an eleven to one team. I don't love that, but I trust Andy Reid, Mahomes, Kelsey, Chris Jones and Spags. I have him at four, number three. Detroit's getting banged up on the defensive end. That worries me. Third toughest schedule remaining. Will they get knocked out of the perch and will Philadelphia to be a number one seat. They've led by ten plus points in ten of eleven games, so they usually play with a lead probably won't be like that in the playoffs. I think Thursday is fascinating. I have Detroit at three, number two Philadelphia. They figured out Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts twenty touchdowns one pick in his eight game winning streak. I don't want him throwing thirty times. I don't want Brady's and Mannings throwing forty times. They've figured it out. By the way, this team's nine to zero when aj Brown plays. I've never seen a great team led by a receiver, but they don't lose when he plays. I have Philadelphia at two, number one Buffalo. I think it's the best version of Buffalo. I like that they have James Cook Dalton Kincaid. They've missed multiple good players during this stretch. I love Josh Allen, and he's matured. He's not as reckless as he once was. I think they have their best offensive line, their best running game. When Josh first got there, all their best players felt like defensive guys. Now I think many of their best players are offensive guys, and they're getting healthier on the defensive side. Let's put Buffalo at number one again. I generally, in my herd hierarchy think about three to four teams can hoist a trophy. I don't think Green Bay can or Pittsburgh they're darn close at five and six, respectively. And with that, Tom Brady twenty three years, seven rings, most Super Bowl wins, passing yards, touchdowns, you know what. Okay, so you know I'm I'll get to Michigan Ohio State because I won't be able to wipe the smile off you. That was nuts. I want to start with this, the late hit on Trevor Lawrence. So I got mixed emotions. I want my quarterback to have some mobility, but I also think you leave the pocket, Tom, and you're a running back. Where are you on this hit?

Okay, my final four teams are the teams I think can win a Super Bowl. Kansas City Listen, he's been sacked Patrick Mahomes has five times in back to back games. I don't like the protection right now at offensive tackle. They're getting Isaiah Pacheco back that helps play action. They eleven and one in one score games. Their point differential is the lowest ever for an eleven to one team. I don't love that, but I trust Andy Reid, Mahomes, Kelsey, Chris Jones and Spags. I have him at four, number three. Detroit's getting banged up on the defensive end. That worries me. Third toughest schedule remaining. Will they get knocked out of the perch and will Philadelphia to be a number one seat. They've led by ten plus points in ten of eleven games, so they usually play with a lead probably won't be like that in the playoffs. I think Thursday is fascinating. I have Detroit at three, number two Philadelphia. They figured out Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts twenty touchdowns one pick in his eight game winning streak. I don't want him throwing thirty times. I don't want Brady's and Mannings throwing forty times. They've figured it out. By the way, this team's nine to zero when aj Brown plays. I've never seen a great team led by a receiver, but they don't lose when he plays. I have Philadelphia at two, number one Buffalo. I think it's the best version of Buffalo. I like that they have James Cook Dalton Kincaid. They've missed multiple good players during this stretch. I love Josh Allen, and he's matured. He's not as reckless as he once was. I think they have their best offensive line, their best running game. When Josh first got there, all their best players felt like defensive guys. Now I think many of their best players are offensive guys, and they're getting healthier on the defensive side. Let's put Buffalo at number one again. I generally, in my herd hierarchy think about three to four teams can hoist a trophy. I don't think Green Bay can or Pittsburgh they're darn close at five and six, respectively. And with that, Tom Brady twenty three years, seven rings, most Super Bowl wins, passing yards, touchdowns, you know what. Okay, so you know I'm I'll get to Michigan Ohio State because I won't be able to wipe the smile off you. That was nuts. I want to start with this, the late hit on Trevor Lawrence. So I got mixed emotions. I want my quarterback to have some mobility, but I also think you leave the pocket, Tom, and you're a running back. Where are you on this hit?

That's a great question.

That's a great question.

I've watched obviously been a part of the NFL for a long time, and I remember there was an instance there's I'll start by saying there's mixed emotions that I have about it as well. I remember in two thousand and one, I think we played at Buffalo and I slid late and Nate Clements was the corner for the Bills, and he came up out of the secondary and absolutely crushed me. My helmet went flying off and I got back and I ran to the huddle, and I had a lot of teammates that came up to me the next day and said, Dude, these.

I've watched obviously been a part of the NFL for a long time, and I remember there was an instance there's I'll start by saying there's mixed emotions that I have about it as well. I remember in two thousand and one, I think we played at Buffalo and I slid late and Nate Clements was the corner for the Bills, and he came up out of the secondary and absolutely crushed me. My helmet went flying off and I got back and I ran to the huddle, and I had a lot of teammates that came up to me the next day and said, Dude, these.

Guys are coming.

Guys are coming.

You got to get rid of that football, and if you're going to slide, you better get down. These guys are coming to get you. And it was a great kind of learning experience for me because I realized that when I'm out of that pocket, things were moving a lot faster for me. And the defense is trying to be very aggressive, and over time, the NFL has obviously done a lot of things to protect players and player health and safety. It's been on and on and on, and the only aspect that I think is very challenging, and certainly for Trevor Lawrence, nobody wants to see anybody get hurt, but it is also the reality of a very physical sport.

You got to get rid of that football, and if you're going to slide, you better get down. These guys are coming to get you. And it was a great kind of learning experience for me because I realized that when I'm out of that pocket, things were moving a lot faster for me. And the defense is trying to be very aggressive, and over time, the NFL has obviously done a lot of things to protect players and player health and safety. It's been on and on and on, and the only aspect that I think is very challenging, and certainly for Trevor Lawrence, nobody wants to see anybody get hurt, but it is also the reality of a very physical sport.

That we play.

That we play.

But the only way defensive players have to be aggressive. That's their nature. I always tried to be aggressive on offense. We tried to block aggressively, and at the same time, the defense.

But the only way defensive players have to be aggressive. That's their nature. I always tried to be aggressive on offense. We tried to block aggressively, and at the same time, the defense.

Tries to tackle aggressively.

Tries to tackle aggressively.

So I don't know, there's an aspect to me that I think the quarterbacks and the certainly the quarterbacks need to take better care of themselves. I've seen Josh Allen running a lot. I see Lamar Jackson running a lot, and it's a great skill set to have. A lot of times I wish I had that skill set. And at the same time, when you run, you put yourself, oh yeah, in a lot of danger. And when you do that, I don't think the onus of protecting an offensive quarterback who's running should be on a defensive player. I don't think that's really fair to the defense. So if you slide and it's you know, everyone can argue was it black and white or was it just a gray area? Do you slide late? Or is it unnecessary roughness or is it a late hit? You know, to me, a late hit is very late. You know, there's quarterbacks that I see running in tiptoe on the sideline and they're not even out of bounds and they get hit as they're starting to step out of bounds and there's a penalty flag thrown. So the aspect again for a play caller, there's more design runs for quarterbacks ever now than in the history of the NFL. So are we really trying to protect quarterbacks? Because if you are trying to do it through the rules. Then why are the offensive coordinators not protecting their quarterbacks by keeping them under the pocket and not designing as many quarterback runs. So I think there's just it's gone to a point where there's really and everyone would label a certain player as a dirty player.

So I don't know, there's an aspect to me that I think the quarterbacks and the certainly the quarterbacks need to take better care of themselves. I've seen Josh Allen running a lot. I see Lamar Jackson running a lot, and it's a great skill set to have. A lot of times I wish I had that skill set. And at the same time, when you run, you put yourself, oh yeah, in a lot of danger. And when you do that, I don't think the onus of protecting an offensive quarterback who's running should be on a defensive player. I don't think that's really fair to the defense. So if you slide and it's you know, everyone can argue was it black and white or was it just a gray area? Do you slide late? Or is it unnecessary roughness or is it a late hit? You know, to me, a late hit is very late. You know, there's quarterbacks that I see running in tiptoe on the sideline and they're not even out of bounds and they get hit as they're starting to step out of bounds and there's a penalty flag thrown. So the aspect again for a play caller, there's more design runs for quarterbacks ever now than in the history of the NFL. So are we really trying to protect quarterbacks? Because if you are trying to do it through the rules. Then why are the offensive coordinators not protecting their quarterbacks by keeping them under the pocket and not designing as many quarterback runs. So I think there's just it's gone to a point where there's really and everyone would label a certain player as a dirty player.

You know, I don't like that one bit.

You know, I don't like that one bit.

I you know, maybe they find or penalize a quarterback for sliding late, you know, and say, look, if we don't want these hits to take place, we've got to penalize the offense and the defense rather than just penalize the defensive player for every single play that happens when there's a hit on a quarterback.

I you know, maybe they find or penalize a quarterback for sliding late, you know, and say, look, if we don't want these hits to take place, we've got to penalize the offense and the defense rather than just penalize the defensive player for every single play that happens when there's a hit on a quarterback.

So I said this last week. I said, you know, I was thinking about this. Go back to Lombardi. The dynasties in league history are Green Bay with Lombardi, Steelers, Patriots Chiefs Ravens have always been great, and then the Niners in Dallas and as you know, going up in the Bay. I joke that Mark Twain used to say that the coldest winner he ever spent was a summer in the Bay, and Dallas gets ice storms. There's never been a warm weather dynasty and I'm watching the Niners play the Bills, and Tom, the Bills look like when you're eight years old and it snows for the first time and you go with your friends in the backyard. They were having the time of their lives. And I think it matters. I think Buffalo now with James Cook. Tom, did you feel yeah, when you played Peyton scc Dome team, did you feel it was an advantage?

So I said this last week. I said, you know, I was thinking about this. Go back to Lombardi. The dynasties in league history are Green Bay with Lombardi, Steelers, Patriots Chiefs Ravens have always been great, and then the Niners in Dallas and as you know, going up in the Bay. I joke that Mark Twain used to say that the coldest winner he ever spent was a summer in the Bay, and Dallas gets ice storms. There's never been a warm weather dynasty and I'm watching the Niners play the Bills, and Tom, the Bills look like when you're eight years old and it snows for the first time and you go with your friends in the backyard. They were having the time of their lives. And I think it matters. I think Buffalo now with James Cook. Tom, did you feel yeah, when you played Peyton scc Dome team, did you feel it was an advantage?

Absolutely?

Absolutely?

I felt like that was a great advantage that we always had, which is why those regular season games were. If they were in Foxborough, they were obviously advantage for us. But if it was early in the season, the weather wasn't that critical. I think you used the weather to your advantage. And I even when I went to Tampa, I would say there was an advantage being a warm weather team playing against a team that was coming from the north of the Northeast. So you use what you have to an advantage, and that's you because your body acclimates to it. I saw in that Niner Bill game there were a lot of forty nine er players that were slipping on the turf, yeah, and not a lot of Bills players that were slipping on the turf. And the point is is when you're in those environments, you know exactly what shoes to wear, You know how many layers that you have to put on in order to get the job done. So when you have those climates, that's what you try to play too. I knew for me, I knew how many hand warmers I needed in my quarterback pouch per ten degrees. For every ten degrees that the weather dropped below seventy, I'd put one heat pack. So if it was you know, forty degrees, it would be sixty to fifty forty degrees. I'd put three heat packs just to keep a consistent temperature for my hands. So those are all the things you learn over time, through a lot of trial and there through a lot of days in practice. And that's where you get a home field. So if you're Buffalo or the Chiefs and you play in this cold weather year round, you better believe you have an advantage playoff time when a team that comes from a warmer climate comes and plays you at your home stadium.

I felt like that was a great advantage that we always had, which is why those regular season games were. If they were in Foxborough, they were obviously advantage for us. But if it was early in the season, the weather wasn't that critical. I think you used the weather to your advantage. And I even when I went to Tampa, I would say there was an advantage being a warm weather team playing against a team that was coming from the north of the Northeast. So you use what you have to an advantage, and that's you because your body acclimates to it. I saw in that Niner Bill game there were a lot of forty nine er players that were slipping on the turf, yeah, and not a lot of Bills players that were slipping on the turf. And the point is is when you're in those environments, you know exactly what shoes to wear, You know how many layers that you have to put on in order to get the job done. So when you have those climates, that's what you try to play too. I knew for me, I knew how many hand warmers I needed in my quarterback pouch per ten degrees. For every ten degrees that the weather dropped below seventy, I'd put one heat pack. So if it was you know, forty degrees, it would be sixty to fifty forty degrees. I'd put three heat packs just to keep a consistent temperature for my hands. So those are all the things you learn over time, through a lot of trial and there through a lot of days in practice. And that's where you get a home field. So if you're Buffalo or the Chiefs and you play in this cold weather year round, you better believe you have an advantage playoff time when a team that comes from a warmer climate comes and plays you at your home stadium.

So I'm watching bow Nicks last night. Now he had sixty one college start. That helps a lot. You did not have this as an advantage. You had a defensive coach a defensive culture, do your job. There was some rigidity to the culture. You were in offensively until Moss arrived and you broke every record. But I watched bo Nicks and you know what I took from it? Tom last night, my one takeaway Sean Payton with a lead against Miles Garrett, had this kid thrown from the end zone and I'm like, wow, that that there's no babysitting there. That's what you could do. You don't let rookie quarterback. That was my takeaway was Okay, Sean, totally trust this kid. What was your takeaway watching them?

So I'm watching bow Nicks last night. Now he had sixty one college start. That helps a lot. You did not have this as an advantage. You had a defensive coach a defensive culture, do your job. There was some rigidity to the culture. You were in offensively until Moss arrived and you broke every record. But I watched bo Nicks and you know what I took from it? Tom last night, my one takeaway Sean Payton with a lead against Miles Garrett, had this kid thrown from the end zone and I'm like, wow, that that there's no babysitting there. That's what you could do. You don't let rookie quarterback. That was my takeaway was Okay, Sean, totally trust this kid. What was your takeaway watching them?

That's a great point. And it's the trust that a coach has in a player. You can it manifests itself all the time. I can always tell when I watch a play caller try to manage a game from the sideline and he's trying to manage the risk. And when you have a quarterback where you feel like, you know what, I know he's going to make the decisions, well, then you can actually go out there and you don't have to manage. It's hard to manage a quarterback because you're in the eye of the storm. On every play you touched the ball seventy snaps. So when you have a quarterback that you're trusting is making good decisions, well, then you want to give them more opportunities. So and I see that with a lot of play callers as well, when they do trust them. Let's spread, let's be an empty, let me give you five different options, let me get it, get you out there on the perimeter to make good throws. I'm going to have you manage end of game situations. That takes a great developmental coach, and I would say Sean Payton certainly is that. He's a phenomenal coach and a quarterback that wants to embrace that opportunity to learn a skill set of how to manage a game. Not just hey, coach, what's to play? Tell me what to do? Coach, tell me the play? But why are we calling that play? Why are we in this situation? Why don't we understand the why behind what we're doing? How do we beat man coverage, how do we beat zone coverage? Why are we calling this play in this situation? And then okay, I understand why you're doing that. So if we don't get the look we want, I can manage the play as a quarterback and get to the next down while still making a positive play.

That's a great point. And it's the trust that a coach has in a player. You can it manifests itself all the time. I can always tell when I watch a play caller try to manage a game from the sideline and he's trying to manage the risk. And when you have a quarterback where you feel like, you know what, I know he's going to make the decisions, well, then you can actually go out there and you don't have to manage. It's hard to manage a quarterback because you're in the eye of the storm. On every play you touched the ball seventy snaps. So when you have a quarterback that you're trusting is making good decisions, well, then you want to give them more opportunities. So and I see that with a lot of play callers as well, when they do trust them. Let's spread, let's be an empty, let me give you five different options, let me get it, get you out there on the perimeter to make good throws. I'm going to have you manage end of game situations. That takes a great developmental coach, and I would say Sean Payton certainly is that. He's a phenomenal coach and a quarterback that wants to embrace that opportunity to learn a skill set of how to manage a game. Not just hey, coach, what's to play? Tell me what to do? Coach, tell me the play? But why are we calling that play? Why are we in this situation? Why don't we understand the why behind what we're doing? How do we beat man coverage, how do we beat zone coverage? Why are we calling this play in this situation? And then okay, I understand why you're doing that. So if we don't get the look we want, I can manage the play as a quarterback and get to the next down while still making a positive play.

So Michigan has beaten Ohio State four straight times, and I do believe one time last year Michigan just had far better players. They were stacked. But generally I think Ohio State has an edge in personnel. It can be slight, but I do feel they feel more sec than Big ten the way they recruit, But the difference is definitely Michigan's had an identity with Harbaugh early, middle, and late, and he just handed that identity to his new coach. Ohio State's talented, but I don't know what they are. And I think to myself, you've told me this, and so was Edelman that every Patriot team had a different identity. I feel like I've been watching Ohio State for five years. I'm like, yeah, they're talented, what are they? How do you? How did Belichick create it? How do you create Because there's a lot of coaches recruit in college, the great ones urb you know, the Urbans and the Knicks create the identity and recruit. How do you do it?

So Michigan has beaten Ohio State four straight times, and I do believe one time last year Michigan just had far better players. They were stacked. But generally I think Ohio State has an edge in personnel. It can be slight, but I do feel they feel more sec than Big ten the way they recruit, But the difference is definitely Michigan's had an identity with Harbaugh early, middle, and late, and he just handed that identity to his new coach. Ohio State's talented, but I don't know what they are. And I think to myself, you've told me this, and so was Edelman that every Patriot team had a different identity. I feel like I've been watching Ohio State for five years. I'm like, yeah, they're talented, what are they? How do you? How did Belichick create it? How do you create Because there's a lot of coaches recruit in college, the great ones urb you know, the Urbans and the Knicks create the identity and recruit. How do you do it?

I think a lot of is you define the type of player that you want, and you define the type of team you want to build, and then you find players that have those skill sets physically and those values kind of mentally, emotionally. Michigan is a very tough, hard nosed team. They run the ball very well. You know, they haven't been great throwing the ball. But if I looked at Ohio State strengths and we says they have a great seven on sevent team, they got guys that can throw the ball to in the second half, they don't even target their best players. So to me, it's like, I may as well be out there playing receiver for Ohouse State. I can't run, I couldn't catch, but it doesn't matter if you don't throw me the ball, just like they didn't throw a lot of their best players to the ball in the second half of that game. So whenever we got to big games, let's say the Super Bowl, ye, you'd say there's seventy plays left in the game. In our season, the entire six months of work, seven months of work is going to come down to seventy plays. What do we want those seventy plays to look like? And then you reverse engineer it and you say, okay, we're going to want forty passes and thirty runs well, what forty passes do we want? We could design one hundred and fifty of them if you want. Now, there's one hundred and ten of those that won't get called. So why don't we just dial it down and dial it back to the only the specific ones where best players are going to touch the ball doing the best things that they do. And we're going to go out like that. If we lose, we lose. If we win, you great, But we're not going to lose doing things that we don't do well. And I think the coaches, Coach Belichick would always say coaches lose games and players win games. And he didn't mean to say that coaches are not valuable. Coaches need to put their players in a position to win. They do instruct you, they give you this is the plan. It's up to the coach to clearly identify a plan every week about how you're going.

I think a lot of is you define the type of player that you want, and you define the type of team you want to build, and then you find players that have those skill sets physically and those values kind of mentally, emotionally. Michigan is a very tough, hard nosed team. They run the ball very well. You know, they haven't been great throwing the ball. But if I looked at Ohio State strengths and we says they have a great seven on sevent team, they got guys that can throw the ball to in the second half, they don't even target their best players. So to me, it's like, I may as well be out there playing receiver for Ohouse State. I can't run, I couldn't catch, but it doesn't matter if you don't throw me the ball, just like they didn't throw a lot of their best players to the ball in the second half of that game. So whenever we got to big games, let's say the Super Bowl, ye, you'd say there's seventy plays left in the game. In our season, the entire six months of work, seven months of work is going to come down to seventy plays. What do we want those seventy plays to look like? And then you reverse engineer it and you say, okay, we're going to want forty passes and thirty runs well, what forty passes do we want? We could design one hundred and fifty of them if you want. Now, there's one hundred and ten of those that won't get called. So why don't we just dial it down and dial it back to the only the specific ones where best players are going to touch the ball doing the best things that they do. And we're going to go out like that. If we lose, we lose. If we win, you great, But we're not going to lose doing things that we don't do well. And I think the coaches, Coach Belichick would always say coaches lose games and players win games. And he didn't mean to say that coaches are not valuable. Coaches need to put their players in a position to win. They do instruct you, they give you this is the plan. It's up to the coach to clearly identify a plan every week about how you're going.

To win the game.

To win the game.

We would come in on a Wednesday morning. I thought the best thing that Coach Belichick did a lot of them was he would clearly define for offense, defense, and special teams, this is how we're going to win the game this week. Don't worry about last week, don't worry about next week this unique challenge. Yet we have today or excuse me, on a Sunday. We're gonna deal with that based on these three or four areas on each side of the ball and in the kicking game, and if we execute in these areas, we're going to give ourselves a great chance to win. It doesn't mean we're guaranteed to win, and there's times where we can misevaluate what those things are. I'll never forget we played the Chiefs once and we doubled. I think Travis Kelcey a bunch and not Tyreek Hill. Maybe the one of the early times we played Tyreek Hill and he went for like one eighty or two hundred something crazy. He came in the next day and he says, the guys, we're never doing that again.

We would come in on a Wednesday morning. I thought the best thing that Coach Belichick did a lot of them was he would clearly define for offense, defense, and special teams, this is how we're going to win the game this week. Don't worry about last week, don't worry about next week this unique challenge. Yet we have today or excuse me, on a Sunday. We're gonna deal with that based on these three or four areas on each side of the ball and in the kicking game, and if we execute in these areas, we're going to give ourselves a great chance to win. It doesn't mean we're guaranteed to win, and there's times where we can misevaluate what those things are. I'll never forget we played the Chiefs once and we doubled. I think Travis Kelcey a bunch and not Tyreek Hill. Maybe the one of the early times we played Tyreek Hill and he went for like one eighty or two hundred something crazy. He came in the next day and he says, the guys, we're never doing that again.

We screwed that up.

We screwed that up.

If we play these guys again, we know who we're gonna double, and it's going to be Tyreek Hill. So it's just you gotta have some formula for what you're trying to accomplish. What's the bulls eye that we need to hit and we need to get, you know, the coaches to deliver that to the players in all three phases of the game for them to go out there so that they have something to hit. And if they do that and you identify it clearly, I think you give your team a great chance to win.

If we play these guys again, we know who we're gonna double, and it's going to be Tyreek Hill. So it's just you gotta have some formula for what you're trying to accomplish. What's the bulls eye that we need to hit and we need to get, you know, the coaches to deliver that to the players in all three phases of the game for them to go out there so that they have something to hit. And if they do that and you identify it clearly, I think you give your team a great chance to win.

So Nick Wright was on before me and he posed this question. So, Kansas City's eleven and one and they're winning by payper thin margins. So of all your teams, the team that blew people out was the Randy Moss teams. There's no ring. You're three to four team. You were winning close games, and so this Chiefs team is the closest to your team. I want you to take me back. People keep saying, well, the Chiefs are lucky, and I'm like, timeout, that block field goal, that was coaching, third down efficiency, that is coaching. I don't want to hear luck. That's even Rubik's cubes and roulette. There's some strategy to it. Right. Did you feel that three to four team, did you feel like, you know, what close game, we're winning it. We're just better than everybody at it.

So Nick Wright was on before me and he posed this question. So, Kansas City's eleven and one and they're winning by payper thin margins. So of all your teams, the team that blew people out was the Randy Moss teams. There's no ring. You're three to four team. You were winning close games, and so this Chiefs team is the closest to your team. I want you to take me back. People keep saying, well, the Chiefs are lucky, and I'm like, timeout, that block field goal, that was coaching, third down efficiency, that is coaching. I don't want to hear luck. That's even Rubik's cubes and roulette. There's some strategy to it. Right. Did you feel that three to four team, did you feel like, you know, what close game, we're winning it. We're just better than everybody at it.

Definitely I think that, Look, you're gonna have a close games, You're gonna blowouts. To win the close games is always the mark of a really good team to win when you're not playing your best football is the mark of a very good team. I just think the Chiefs are so dangerous because if it's a one score game in the fourth quarter and Patrick has the ball, he just he's incredible. He comes, not that he comes like because he comes to life all day long, but he's so dangerous because then he has four downs late in the game where you got to stop him for four downs, not three. And that's a dangerous aspect for any defense you have to kind of pull away from. And that they're a hard you know, it's a hard team to pull away from because they do such a good job defensively. So I think when they transition from really this great offensive team, and I would say when Patrick first started, they weren't as good on defense. Now they have a tremendous defense. They got Spags as a phenomenal coach. He's got them playing well defensively. Patrick is going to manage the game so well. He's going to throw to the open guy when it's He's got Travis out there that is going to make the right decisions.

Definitely I think that, Look, you're gonna have a close games, You're gonna blowouts. To win the close games is always the mark of a really good team to win when you're not playing your best football is the mark of a very good team. I just think the Chiefs are so dangerous because if it's a one score game in the fourth quarter and Patrick has the ball, he just he's incredible. He comes, not that he comes like because he comes to life all day long, but he's so dangerous because then he has four downs late in the game where you got to stop him for four downs, not three. And that's a dangerous aspect for any defense you have to kind of pull away from. And that they're a hard you know, it's a hard team to pull away from because they do such a good job defensively. So I think when they transition from really this great offensive team, and I would say when Patrick first started, they weren't as good on defense. Now they have a tremendous defense. They got Spags as a phenomenal coach. He's got them playing well defensively. Patrick is going to manage the game so well. He's going to throw to the open guy when it's He's got Travis out there that is going to make the right decisions.

And the big moments like we've seen time and time again.

And the big moments like we've seen time and time again.

So they have a group of players that that organization does so many things the right way. They're going to be tough to beat in the playoffs. I don't care who they play, where they play, it's it's it's a lot like the teams that I played for at the Patriots. If you were going to beat us, man, you had to beat us. We weren't going to beat ourselves.

So they have a group of players that that organization does so many things the right way. They're going to be tough to beat in the playoffs. I don't care who they play, where they play, it's it's it's a lot like the teams that I played for at the Patriots. If you were going to beat us, man, you had to beat us. We weren't going to beat ourselves.

Hey, was vrabel a good sport? When you texted him after the Michigan win? Did he take it?

Hey, was vrabel a good sport? When you texted him after the Michigan win? Did he take it?

Well?

Well?

Bet he didn't, did he?

Bet he didn't, did he?

I have very little comments on that because a lot of the times braves will somehow figure out how to turn it on you and then you're the you know, you're the jerk that texted him, So sometimes I lay back on him. But he's a typical Ohio State guy. Let me say that.

I have very little comments on that because a lot of the times braves will somehow figure out how to turn it on you and then you're the you know, you're the jerk that texted him, So sometimes I lay back on him. But he's a typical Ohio State guy. Let me say that.

Yeah, they're all the same, Tom, believe me, I've worked with him. The Michigan guys bring a different level of the class. I'll just say that.

Yeah, they're all the same, Tom, believe me, I've worked with him. The Michigan guys bring a different level of the class. I'll just say that.

There we go.

There we go.

Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, great seeing you man, hey Colin, Great seeing you buddy, Great being on your show.

Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, great seeing you man, hey Colin, Great seeing you buddy, Great being on your show.

I appreciate it, all right,

I appreciate it, all right,