The Heart Of ItThe Heart Of It

Win the Argument, Lose the Relationship

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Is your need to be right getting in the way of your relationship?

It's a trait that award-winning public speaker, best-selling author and stubbornness expert, Michael McQueen, has had to unlearn.

Michael and his wife, theatre-maker and lecturer Hailey McQueen, are dropping pearls of wisdom all over the bathroom floor today. They chat to Cam and Ali about negotiating differences in a relationship, navigating loss early into dating, career rough patches, poor fashion decisions, stubborn kids, and the incongruity of driving to Centrelink in a Lexis.

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Cam and Ali Daddo have been partners in life for over 33 years. Through marriage, raising kids, big  
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