We all say things in the moment after a few drinks, but have you ever offered to have your someone's baby? Well that's just what Leonie McKinnon did for her friend Rebecca MacDonald. Lee and Beck have put their story to paper in their book Little Ray of Sunshine: An Australian Surrogacy Story and are here in the bathroom to tell Cam and Ali all about their unique relationship.

LINKS
Learn more about Little Ray of Sunshine – https://www.alittlerayofsunshine.net/
Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo. 
Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo. 
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

CREDITS

Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo. 
Guests: Leonie McKinnon and Rebecca MacDonald.
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie. 
Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball. 

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au.

Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present.

We all say things in the moment after a few drinks, but have you ever offered to have your someone's baby? Well that's just what Leonie McKinnon did for her friend Rebecca MacDonald. Lee and Beck have put their story to paper in their book Little Ray of Sunshine: An Australian Surrogacy Story and are here in the bathroom to tell Cam and Ali all about their unique relationship.
LINKS 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Learn more about Little Ray of Sunshine – <a href="https://www.alittlerayofsunshine.net/">https://www.alittlerayofsunshine.net/</a> </li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a>. </li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a>. </li>
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</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>. 
CREDITS 
Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo.  Guests: Leonie McKinnon and Rebecca MacDonald. Managing Producer: Elle Beattie.  Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball. 
Find more great podcasts like this at <a href="http://novapodcasts.com.au/">novapodcasts.com.au</a>. 
Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present.

Cam and Ali Daddo have been partners in life for over 33 years. Through marriage, raising kids, big moves, and the inevitable highs and lows of any long-term relationship, they’ve remained deeply curious about what makes each other tick.

Each week, they sit down with some of Australia’s most fascinating duos to pull back the curtain on their relationships, sharing stories that are humorous, vulnerable, and deeply inspiring. Along the way, they uncover wisdom you might not even realize you need.

Tune in for heartfelt conversations, unexpected insights, and a celebration of the connections that shape our lives.

Cam and Ali Daddo have been partners in life for over 33 years. Through marriage, raising kids, big moves, and the inevitable highs and lows of any long-term relationship, they&rsquo;ve remained deeply curious about what makes each other tick.
Each week, they sit down with some of Australia&rsquo;s most fascinating duos to pull back the curtain on their relationships, sharing stories that are humorous, vulnerable, and deeply inspiring. Along the way, they uncover wisdom you might not even realize you need.
Tune in for heartfelt conversations, unexpected insights, and a celebration of the connections that shape our lives.

Cam and Ali Daddo have been partners in life for over 33 years. Through marriage, raising kids, big moves, and the inevitable highs and lows of any long-term relationship, they’ve remained deeply curious about what makes each other tick.  Each week, they sit down with some of Australia’s most fascinating duos to pull back the curtain on their relationships, sharing stories that are humorous, vulnerable, and deeply inspiring. Along the way, they uncover wisdom you might not even realize you need.

The Heart Of It

How one Woman Helped her Friend to Have a Family

We’ve been sharing this podcast with you all for almost six years now. It all began as Separate Bathrooms, and as it grew, we grew. And it transformed intoThe Heart Of It. The new name felt right, it captured the tone, depth, and connection we share with our incredible guests each week.

It has been an amazing ride, full of laughter, learning, and heartfelt conversations. And now, it feels like the right moment to pause, recharge, and reflect on just how far we’ve come. So, we’re taking a short hiatus into 2026.

This isn’t goodbye. It’s just a little pit stop while life catches up and we take a moment to smell the roses. Thank you for being part of this journey with us, for tuning in every week, and for embracing the stories, guests, and heart that make this podcast what it is. We can’t wait to be back in your ears soon.

LINKS:
Follow Cam @camerondaddo on Instagram
Follow Ali @alidaddo on Instagram
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

CREDITS
Host: Cam & Ali Daddo 
Senior Producer: Xander Cross
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at:
Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au

We&rsquo;ve been sharing this podcast with you all for almost six years now. It all began as Separate Bathrooms, and as it grew, we grew. And it transformed intoThe Heart Of It. The new name felt right, it captured the tone, depth, and connection we share with our incredible guests each week.
It has been an amazing ride, full of laughter, learning, and heartfelt conversations. And now, it feels like the right moment to pause, recharge, and reflect on just how far we&rsquo;ve come. So, we&rsquo;re taking a short hiatus into 2026.
This isn&rsquo;t goodbye. It&rsquo;s just a little pit stop while life catches up and we take a moment to smell the roses. Thank you for being part of this journey with us, for tuning in every week, and for embracing the stories, guests, and heart that make this podcast what it is. We can&rsquo;t wait to be back in your ears soon.
LINKS:
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a>&nbsp;on Instagram</li>
<li>Follow&nbsp;Ali <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>.&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
CREDITS Host: Cam &amp; Ali Daddo&nbsp; Senior Producer:&nbsp;Xander Cross Managing Producer:&nbsp;Elle Beattie&nbsp;
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at: <a href="mailto:Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au">Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au</a>

We Have Something To Tell You

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Wow, what an honest, moving and unforgettable conversation this was. We were joined by brothers James and Nick Van Cuylenburg, the duo behind the podcast You’re a Good Kid, where they invite guests to reflect on how their childhoods shaped them and share powerful letters written to their younger selves. 

James, a clinical psychologist, and Nick, an audio creative, share a bond built on deep respect, admiration, and the unique family foundation they grew up with. It’s a conversation that will leave you thinking about your own story, your family, and the moments that shaped who you’ve become.

LINKS:
Follow Cam @camerondaddo on Instagram
Follow Ali @alidaddo on Instagram
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 
Follow @youreagoodkidpodcast on Instagram
Listen to 'You're A Good Kid'  HERE

CREDITS
Host: Cam & Ali Daddo 
Senior Producer: Xander Cross
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at:
Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au

Wow, what an honest, moving and unforgettable conversation this was. We were joined by brothers James and Nick Van Cuylenburg, the duo behind the podcast You&rsquo;re a Good Kid, where they invite guests to reflect on how their childhoods shaped them and share powerful letters written to their younger selves.&nbsp;
James, a clinical psychologist, and Nick, an audio creative, share a bond built on deep respect, admiration, and the unique family foundation they grew up with. It&rsquo;s a conversation that will leave you thinking about your own story, your family, and the moments that shaped who you&rsquo;ve become.
LINKS:
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a>&nbsp;on Instagram</li>
<li>Follow&nbsp;Ali <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>.&nbsp;</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/youreagoodkidpodcast/?hl=en">@youreagoodkidpodcast </a>on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Listen to 'You're A Good Kid'&nbsp; <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1ZCPGK4gTHhNvo5i1kG511?si=hDLHXGVlSSm5yJ3uv9xhyA&amp;fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAacmwGlhOlIZ_ATtnPAr5tiSDus5m0_T1x_udf9RpEQJytl-dWapmREhFW_DrQ_aem_bWLMF3ZtJ6uJdFf93bBqdw&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=1fc17695c8cd4fec">HERE</a></li>
</ul>
CREDITS Host: Cam &amp; Ali Daddo&nbsp; Senior Producer:&nbsp;Xander Cross Managing Producer:&nbsp;Elle Beattie&nbsp;
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at: <a href="mailto:Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au">Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au</a>

Writing A Letter To Our Younger Selves (With James & Nick Van Cuylenburg)

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This week’s episode was an absolute delight and a barrel of laughs. We were joined by Matt and Michelle (Bella) Baseley, and what a joy it was to dive into their story. You’ll know Matt as part of the Nova family and one half of the Star104.5 breakfast show, and you might recognise the sultry tones of Bella’s  voice from her vocal work on Channel 9.

What unfolded was a true love story built on admiration, resilience, and deep commitment. From meeting in the very building where we recorded this episode, to surviving a life-changing car accident on the Sydney Harbour Bridge, and now raising three beautiful kids together, Matt and Bella are the very definition of soulmates and family.

Their journey is heartfelt, inspiring, and filled with the kind of moments that remind us what really matters most.

LINKS:
Follow Cam @camerondaddo on Instagram
Follow Ali @alidaddo on Instagram
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 
Follow Matt @mattbaseley on Instagram
Follow Bella @bella_baso on Instagram

CREDITS
Host: Cam & Ali Daddo 
Senior Producer: Xander Cross
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at:
Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au

 

This week&rsquo;s episode was an absolute delight and a barrel of laughs. We were joined by Matt and Michelle (Bella) Baseley, and what a joy it was to dive into their story. You&rsquo;ll know Matt as part of the Nova family and one half of the Star104.5 breakfast show, and you might recognise the sultry tones of Bella&rsquo;s&nbsp; voice from her vocal work on Channel 9.
What unfolded was a true love story built on admiration, resilience, and deep commitment. From meeting in the very building where we recorded this episode, to surviving a life-changing car accident on the Sydney Harbour Bridge, and now raising three beautiful kids together, Matt and Bella are the very definition of soulmates and family.
Their journey is heartfelt, inspiring, and filled with the kind of moments that remind us what really matters most.
LINKS:
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a>&nbsp;on Instagram</li>
<li>Follow&nbsp;Ali <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>.&nbsp;</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Matt <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mattbaseley/">@mattbaseley</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Bella <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bella_baso/">@bella_baso</a> on Instagram</li>
</ul>
CREDITS Host: Cam &amp; Ali Daddo&nbsp; Senior Producer:&nbsp;Xander Cross Managing Producer:&nbsp;Elle Beattie&nbsp;
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at: <a href="mailto:Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au">Theheartofit@novapodcasts.com.au</a>
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We Can't Stop Running into Matt & Bella Baseley!!!

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