Dr Cochav Elkayam-Levy, recipient of Israel's highest civilian honour and founder of the Civil Commission on the October 7 Crimes by Hamas Against Women and Children, takes us inside one of the most confronting investigations of our time. As her team examined thousands of images, videos and survivor testimonies, they discovered something so horrific that existing international law could not adequately describe it. They were forced to coin a new term: Kinocide—the deliberate torture and destruction of families as families.
But this conversation is about far more than a new legal definition. It is about the collapse of compassion, the betrayal of victims, the weaponisation of denial, and the desperate race to preserve truth before it is buried beneath propaganda. This is not an interview about politics. It is about civilisation itself, about whether we are still capable of looking evil in the eye, calling it by its name, and refusing to let history be rewritten.
This conversation will stay with you long after it ends. And as it moves you, share it. Because truth only survives when ordinary people are prepared to bear witness.

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