Author, gardener, and woods-walker Hannah Anderson wrote, “More than a metaphor, the natural world is a living, pulsating experience of truth that surrounds and enfolds us, teaching us deep realities without words.” She puts words to many of those wordless realities in her new book, The Turning of Days: Lessons from Nature, Season, and Spirit.

In this episode, Hannah and Jonathan Rogers talk about observation, repetition, “gardening shame,” and cooperating with forces of a broken world.