Mitali Perkins has always thought of herself as an outsider writing for outsiders. And yet she has a remarkable gift for inviting people in. She has two new books out: Hope in the Valley is a middle-grade novel. Holy Night and Little Star is a picture book for Christmas.

Mitali Perkins has always thought of herself as an outsider writing for outsiders. And yet she has a remarkable gift for inviting people in. She has two new books out: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/hope-in-the-valley-mitali-perkins/18643154?ean=9780374388515">Hope in the Valley</a> is a middle-grade novel. <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-night-and-little-star-a-story-for-christmas-mitali-perkins/19574165?ean=9780593578049">Holy Night and Little Star</a> is a picture book for Christmas.

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Mitali Perkins likes being on the margins.

Becca Jordan has referred to herself as a wandering songbird. She’s a singer-songwriter, a writer of essays, and a worship leader in Nashville. She is also working on a Masters Degree in Theopoetics. Becca was our guest at The Habit’s 2026 Winter Writer’s Weekend. The theme of that weekend was “Adding to the Glory.” Becca is an artist who has put a lot of glory into the world in a lot of different ways, so she seemed like an obvious fit. This conversation was recorded in front of a roomful of writers. In this episode, Becca and Jonathan Rogers talk about glory, longing, and related topics.

<a href="https://www.beccajordanmusic.com/">Becca Jordan</a> has referred to herself as a wandering songbird. She&rsquo;s a singer-songwriter, <a href="https://beccajordan.substack.com/">a writer of essays</a>, and a worship leader in Nashville. She is also working on a Masters Degree in Theopoetics. Becca was our guest at The Habit&rsquo;s 2026 Winter Writer&rsquo;s Weekend. The theme of that weekend was &ldquo;Adding to the Glory.&rdquo; Becca is an artist who has put a lot of glory into the world in a lot of different ways, so she seemed like an obvious fit. This conversation was recorded in front of a roomful of writers. In this episode, Becca and Jonathan Rogers talk about glory, longing, and related topics.

Becca Jordan Adds Glory to the World

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Curt Thompson is a psychiatrist, a speaker, and the author of several books–most recently, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope. In this episode, Curt and Jonathan Rogers talk about what it means to be hospitable to your own suffering, engaging suffering as the way of redemption, and the role of storytelling in mental and spiritual health.

This episode originally ran in August 2023.

Curt Thompson is a psychiatrist, a speaker, and the author of several books&ndash;most recently, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-deepest-place-suffering-and-the-formation-of-hope-curt-thompson/19235737?ean=9780310366478">The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope</a>. In this episode, Curt and Jonathan Rogers talk about what it means to be hospitable to your own suffering, engaging suffering as the way of redemption, and the role of storytelling in mental and spiritual health.
This episode originally ran in August 2023.

Curt Thompson Goes to the Deepest Place (from the Archives)

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Andrew Roycroft is a freelance editor and writer. He has published poetry in a number of Irish and British literary journals, has produced work for BBC Radio 4, has contributed to Arts Council Northern Ireland projects, and written commissioned work for New Irish Arts. Andrew is also a regular contributor to the Rabbit Room Poetry community. His Substack is New Grub Street. In this episode, Andrew and Jonathan Rogers talk about calling, Substack, and Seamus Heaney.

Andrew Roycroft is a freelance editor and writer. He has published poetry in a number of Irish and British literary journals, has produced work for BBC Radio 4, has contributed to Arts Council Northern Ireland projects, and written commissioned work for New Irish Arts. Andrew is also a regular contributor to the Rabbit Room Poetry community. His Substack is <a href="https://andrewroycroft.substack.com/">New Grub Street</a>. In this episode, Andrew and Jonathan Rogers talk about calling, Substack, and Seamus Heaney.

Andrew Roycroft's Calling Hasn't Changed.

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Mitali Perkins likes being on the margins.

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