Mitali Perkins has always thought of herself as an outsider writing for outsiders. And yet she has a remarkable gift for inviting people in. She has two new books out: Hope in the Valley is a middle-grade novel. Holy Night and Little Star is a picture book for Christmas.

Mitali Perkins has always thought of herself as an outsider writing for outsiders. And yet she has a remarkable gift for inviting people in. She has two new books out: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/hope-in-the-valley-mitali-perkins/18643154?ean=9780374388515">Hope in the Valley</a> is a middle-grade novel. <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-night-and-little-star-a-story-for-christmas-mitali-perkins/19574165?ean=9780593578049">Holy Night and Little Star</a> is a picture book for Christmas.

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Jen Pollock Michel is an author, speaker, and mentor in the MFA in creative writing at Whitworth University. She is the author of six books, most recently A Rule for the Rest of Us: An Ancient Practice for Making the Daily Decisions that Shape Faithful Lives, Every Monday she sends out a Substack newsletter, A Habit Called Faith. You can subscribe at jenpollockmichel.substack.com. In this episode, Jen and Jonathan Rogers talk about the Rule of Saint Benedict, and the idea that a “rule for life” has more to do with guideposts or handrails than laws or demands or even catalog of commitments—and certainly not a means of working harder or longer, but a means of simplification and clarification in the midst of of overwhelming choices and the cult of productivity. And we talk about five steps for making your own personal rule.

Jen Pollock Michel is an author, speaker, and mentor in the MFA in creative writing at Whitworth University. She is the author of six books, most recently <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-rule-for-the-rest-of-us-an-ancient-practice-for-clarity-and-courage-commitment-and-the-art-of-care-jen-pollock-michel/253ee3ae8415e462?ean=9798217152285&amp;bkshp-astro=t">A Rule for the Rest of Us: An Ancient Practice for Making the Daily Decisions that Shape Faithful Lives</a>, Every Monday she sends out a Substack newsletter, A Habit Called Faith. You can subscribe at <a href="http://jenpollockmichel.substack.com">jenpollockmichel.substack.com</a>. In this episode, Jen and Jonathan Rogers talk about the Rule of Saint Benedict, and the idea that a &ldquo;rule for life&rdquo; has more to do with guideposts or handrails than laws or demands or even catalog of commitments&mdash;and certainly not a means of working harder or longer, but a means of simplification and clarification in the midst of of overwhelming choices and the cult of productivity. And we talk about five steps for making your own personal rule.

Jen Pollock Michel Has a Rule for the Rest of Us

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J.R. Briggs is the founder of Kairos Partnerships, an organization committed to serving hungry leaders through coaching, consulting, and speaking. He serves on staff with the Ecclesia Network and Fresh Expressions, and as guest instructor for Friends University in the Masters of Spiritual Formation and Leadership program. He is also the author of several books, most recently The Art of Asking Better Questions. In this conversation, J.R. and Jonathan Rogers talk about questions as a way to connect with others, starting a writing project with questions rather than answers, and the humility required to follow a question to which you don’t know the answer. Also, J.R. offers two questions that can create all kinds of opportunities.

<a href="https://www.jrbriggs.com/">J.R. Briggs</a> is the founder of Kairos Partnerships, an organization committed to serving hungry leaders through coaching, consulting, and speaking. He serves on staff with the Ecclesia Network and Fresh Expressions, and as guest instructor for Friends University in the Masters of Spiritual Formation and Leadership program. He is also the author of several books, most recently <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-art-of-asking-better-questions-pursuing-stronger-relationships-healthier-leadership-and-deeper-faith-j-r-briggs/6447c76abb20f34d?ean=9781514011119&amp;bkshp-astro=t">The Art of Asking Better Questions</a>. In this conversation, J.R. and Jonathan Rogers talk about questions as a way to connect with others, starting a writing project with questions rather than answers, and the humility required to follow a question to which you don&rsquo;t know the answer. Also, J.R. offers two questions that can create all kinds of opportunities.

J.R. Briggs Wants You to Ask Better Questions

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Dr. Jason Crawford is a professor of early modern literature and culture at Union University. In his research and teaching he works on both tragedy and suffering and comedy and laughter. His latest book is God's Fools: Saints, Prophets, Martyrs, and the Making of Modern Comedy. In this episode, Dr. Crawford and Jonathan Rogers talk about standup comedy, Saint Francis, Saint Lawrence (the patron saint of comedians), and the surprising connections among martyrs, holy fools, and the comedians of our own era.

Dr. Jason Crawford is a professor of early modern literature and culture at Union University. In his research and teaching he works on both tragedy and suffering and comedy and laughter. His latest book is <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/god-s-fools-saints-prophets-martyrs-and-the-making-of-modern-comedy-jason-crawford-founder-of-the-roots-of-p/2092331c786a6c28?ean=9781493080595&amp;bkshp-astro=t">God's Fools: Saints, Prophets, Martyrs, and the Making of Modern Comedy</a>. In this episode, Dr. Crawford and Jonathan Rogers talk about standup comedy, Saint Francis, Saint Lawrence (the patron saint of comedians), and the surprising connections among martyrs, holy fools, and the comedians of our own era.

Jason Crawford on God's Fools

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/d699cc26-51ff-4875-9bdb-aa4e006494dd/clips/43fa93f4-8ebc-4f46-aefc-b4be00ba67bb/transcript

Mitali Perkins likes being on the margins.

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