Cartoonist Butch Hartman—creator of Nickelodeon's *The Fairly OddParents*—sits down with Greg to talk about a career built on drawing, storytelling, and eventually surrender. Butch traces his path from a chaotic Michigan childhood, where cartoons were a refuge, to CalArts, Hanna-Barbera, and the day Ted Turner told the staff they could pitch their own ideas. He explains why limited animation gave Fred Flintstone a five o'clock shadow, why confidence with ink matters more than talent, and why he left Nickelodeon in 2018 to build a studio around *The Garden*—a Christian series he self-funded when no one else would.

Along the way: how tithing broke a stronghold, why he and his wife now pastor a church that started under a tree, and his conviction that if God gives the vision, He gives the provision.

Timestamps

00:00 Prototype plush and the $8,000 Goofy maquette story
01:22 Meeting a fellow artist and Fairly OddParents' 18-year run
03:07 CalArts, Hanna-Barbera and the day Cartoon Network launched
05:16 How limited animation made TV cartoons possible
06:14 Discovering he could draw by tracing Peter Pan on a wall
07:41 Greg's chaotic childhood and the animator with the "magic pencil"
09:04 Butch's Michigan upbringing and retreating into cartoons
10:57 TV dads as father figures — Hugh Beaumont and Mike Brady
12:03 Yellow Dog, brush pens and Mad Magazine influences
16:17 Why caricaturing women is a bad idea
17:34 Drawing fast at Magic Mountain and switching to digital
19:13 First jobs: American Tail, Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls
19:55 Seizing the pitch opportunity that changed everything
21:05 Writing letters to Charles Schulz as a kid
22:38 Getting saved at 35 at Crenshaw Christian Center
24:47 Starting Church in the Park during COVID
25:13 Preaching Esther on a whiteboard
26:24 The Garden: making a Christian cartoon nobody else would
28:52 Giving vs. the culture of self-worship
30:26 Why Nickelodeon won't touch overtly Christian content
31:50 Reaching unexpected people in unexpected places
34:42 Where Butch stands on AI in animation
37:27 Voice acting and playing Dr. Rip Studwell
38:49 Favorite movies and the greatest animated film ever
42:35 Human creativity, arrogance and the last days
44:47 Advice to a younger Butch: don't be afraid
46:13 Go-to Scriptures for anxiety and trust
47:01 An invitation to make Jesus Lord of your life
50:15 If God gives the vision, He'll give the provision
51:32 How Butch wants to be remembered