Technology reporter Amelia McGuire and Chanticleer columnist Anthony Macdonald on whether Curtis' AI start-up Firmus can live up to the hype.

This podcast is sponsored by Aussie Broadband

Further reading:
Firmus lands $600m-plus annual tech giant deal as it eyes ASX float
The artificial intelligence start-up has already announced a $70 billion plan to work with Nvidia and CDC Data Centres on facilities across the country.
Firmus plans mid-year IPO after sealing $14b Blackstone deal
The AI data centre provider co-founded by Oliver Curtis has secured the huge debt facility to build its so-called AI factories across Australia.
The new iron ore: Can AI ‘tokens’ become Australia’s next great export?
Having exhausted excess power in the US, the tech giants want to have AI factories in Australia. Are we the lucky country again, or is it all a trick?

Technology reporter Amelia McGuire and Chanticleer columnist Anthony Macdonald on whether Curtis' AI start-up Firmus can live up to the hype.
This podcast is sponsored by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.aussiebroadband.com.au/">Aussie Broadband</a>
Further reading: <a href="https://www.afr.com/technology/firmus-lands-600m-plus-tech-giant-deal-as-it-eyes-asx-float-20260301-p5o6f5">Firmus lands $600m-plus annual tech giant deal as it eyes ASX float</a> The artificial intelligence start-up has already announced a $70 billion plan to work with Nvidia and CDC Data Centres on facilities across the country. <a href="https://www.afr.com/technology/firmus-seals-us10bn-blackstone-deal-to-fund-australian-ai-factories-20260209-p5o0o4">Firmus plans mid-year IPO after sealing $14b Blackstone deal</a> The AI data centre provider co-founded by Oliver Curtis has secured the huge debt facility to build its so-called AI factories across Australia. <a href="https://www.afr.com/companies/infrastructure/silicon-valley-wants-australia-for-data-centres-but-canberra-is-afraid-of-the-dark-20251212-p5nn6l">The new iron ore: Can AI &lsquo;tokens&rsquo; become Australia&rsquo;s next great export?</a> Having exhausted excess power in the US, the tech giants want to have AI factories in Australia. Are we the lucky country again, or is it all a trick?

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Oliver Curtis on Firmus: From prison barber to AI billionaire

This week, editor-in-chief James Chessell and Victorian political correspondent Sumeyya Ilanbey on the project that has come to sum up Victoria’s problems, whether it is too big to cancel and how it will play into November’s state election.

This podcast is sponsored by Elston.

Further reading:
The secret tax that says everything about Victorian Labor
The revelation that Labor secretly introduced a tax on public transport users is the latest chapter in a saga in which political momentum has trumped fiscal responsibility. (edited) 
Vic Labor’s secret tax exposes fiscal transparency void
The opposition and leading economists say a charter of budget honesty is needed after the Victorian government introduced a new tax without telling the public. (edited) 
Carroll’s budget scalpel misses the $34b elephant in the room
Premier Ben Carroll is looking to scrape off as many costly, wasteful barnacles he can find before the November 28 state election

This week, editor-in-chief James Chessell and Victorian political correspondent Sumeyya Ilanbey on the project that has come to sum up Victoria&rsquo;s problems, whether it is too big to cancel and how it will play into November&rsquo;s state election.
This podcast is sponsored by <a href="https://www.elston.com.au/?gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=19236343106&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADmBLJWPnwDE0sTFfKnDulKIuI-HZ&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwkt_UBhDMARIsALpnOAwakZIltK4DHLGxRwsVeWhLAHCKGzlSCEOaIWtPRQbPfsYeUJeNWE8aAh-EEALw_wcB">Elston</a>.
Further reading: <a href="https://www.afr.com/politics/the-secret-tax-that-says-everything-about-victorian-labor-20260827-p60s9b?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">The secret tax that says everything about Victorian Labor</a> The revelation that Labor secretly introduced a tax on public transport users is the latest chapter in a saga in which political momentum has trumped fiscal responsibility.&nbsp;(edited)&nbsp; <a href="https://www.afr.com/politics/vic-labor-s-secret-tax-exposes-fiscal-transparency-void-20260831-p60t23?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Vic Labor&rsquo;s secret tax exposes fiscal transparency void</a> The opposition and leading economists say a charter of budget honesty is needed after the Victorian government introduced a new tax without telling the public.&nbsp;(edited)&nbsp; <a href="https://www.afr.com/politics/carroll-reels-in-fishy-andrews-allan-era-scheme-20260901-p60tbr?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Carroll&rsquo;s budget scalpel misses the $34b elephant in the room</a> Premier Ben Carroll is looking to scrape off as many costly, wasteful barnacles he can find before the November 28 state election

Too big to cancel? The project that sums up Victoria’s problems

Associate editor Primrose Riordan and courts correspondent Max Mason on why Jon Adgemis is struggling to keep the details of his $1.8 billion financial collapse secret and what his story tells us about the private credit market.

This podcast is sponsored by Westpac.

Further reading:
Jon Adgemis thought he was winning. Then his CFO took the stand
The failed pub baron has been trying to keep the details of his $1.8 billion financial collapse secret. But a chatty former accountant is making that difficult.
Adgemis’ right-hand man alleges tax con funded ‘exorbitant lifestyle’
The business affairs of the former KPMG deal maker-turned-bankrupt are being scrutinised, with allegations of “sham arrangements” to pay for his spending.
From playboy pub baron to bankruptcy: Inside Jon Adgemis’ $1.8b fall
From KPMG consultant to “glamour banker” with the “Midas touch” to junk-debt-laden bankrupt. It’s been a wild ride for Jon Adgemis and Public Hospitality Group.

Associate editor Primrose Riordan and courts correspondent Max Mason on why Jon Adgemis is struggling to keep the details of his $1.8 billion financial collapse secret and what his story tells us about the private credit market.
This podcast is sponsored by <a href="https://www.westpac.com.au/">Westpac</a>.
Further reading: <a href="https://www.afr.com/companies/retail/jon-adgemis-thought-he-was-winning-then-his-cfo-took-the-stand-20260813-p60o1f?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Jon Adgemis thought he was winning. Then his CFO took the stand</a> The failed pub baron has been trying to keep the details of his $1.8 billion financial collapse secret. But a chatty former accountant is making that difficult. <a href="https://www.afr.com/companies/retail/where-d-the-money-go-adgemis-cfo-flips-on-former-boss-20260812-p60nl5?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Adgemis&rsquo; right-hand man alleges tax con funded &lsquo;exorbitant lifestyle&rsquo;</a> The business affairs of the former KPMG deal maker-turned-bankrupt are being scrutinised, with allegations of &ldquo;sham arrangements&rdquo; to pay for his spending. <a href="https://www.afr.com/property/commercial/from-playboy-pub-baron-to-bankruptcy-inside-jon-adgemis-1-8b-fall-20251002-p5mzgv?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">From playboy pub baron to bankruptcy: Inside Jon Adgemis&rsquo; $1.8b fall</a> From KPMG consultant to &ldquo;glamour banker&rdquo; with the &ldquo;Midas touch&rdquo; to junk-debt-laden bankrupt. It&rsquo;s been a wild ride for Jon Adgemis and Public Hospitality Group.

How to go from pub baron to Australia’s biggest bankrupt in 10 years

Political editor Phillip Coorey on the government’s bet on gambling reform, the problem with "brand Albo" and why there’s nothing funny about the melon incident.

This podcast is sponsored by Westpac.

Further reading:
PM bets on stability pitch as popularity falters
Anthony Albanese celebrated a significant milestone on Friday, but voters have learnt stability and steadiness don’t preclude poor taste.

Migration or superannuation, the spectre of Hanson hangs heavy
Pauline Hanson keeps setting the agenda, whether she means to or not. The government and Coalition are scrambling to follow.

‘Policy capture’: The week that exposed Labor’s gambling ties
An explosive week of public hearings exposed the harms of the gambling industry. So why isn’t the government following its own advice on advertising bans?

Political editor Phillip Coorey on the government&rsquo;s bet on gambling reform, the problem with "brand Albo" and why there&rsquo;s nothing funny about the melon incident.
This podcast is sponsored by <a href="https://www.westpac.com.au/">Westpac</a>.
Further reading: <a href="https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/pm-bets-on-stability-pitch-as-popularity-falters-20260812-p60ns6?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">PM bets on stability pitch as popularity falters</a> Anthony Albanese celebrated a significant milestone on Friday, but voters have learnt stability and steadiness don&rsquo;t preclude poor taste.
<a href="https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/migration-or-superannuation-the-spectre-of-hanson-hangs-heavy-20260817-p60ow9?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Migration or superannuation, the spectre of Hanson hangs heavy</a> Pauline Hanson keeps setting the agenda, whether she means to or not. The government and Coalition are scrambling to follow.
<a href="https://www.afr.com/companies/games-and-wagering/policy-capture-the-week-that-exposed-labor-s-gambling-ties-20260806-p60m1y?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=the_fin&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">&lsquo;Policy capture&rsquo;: The week that exposed Labor&rsquo;s gambling ties</a> An explosive week of public hearings exposed the harms of the gambling industry. So why isn&rsquo;t the government following its own advice on advertising bans?

Oliver Curtis on Firmus: From prison barber to AI billionaire

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