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Welcome to the Favorites of the Podcast presented by BED three sixty five, part of the Volume Podcast Network. I am Chad Millman of the Action Network. Today is our Tuesday Super Bowl fifty nine preview episode. We will break down the lines for the Big Game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles with our guest doctor Nick Giffen Predictive Analystic Action Network. We'll talk super Bowl bets, his incredible luck rankings.
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How are we doing?
I am so good? You know, I.
Know you feel this way. You've got the Eagles in the Super Bowl. You've got massive futures on the Eagles and the Chiefs. It feels like you've thread the needle beautifully. I am still feeling a little bit relieved because the Chiefs and the Eagles matchup bet paid off for me after a relatively shitty year.
It is amazing to me.
How different I feel in the twenty four to forty eight hours after.
Something wins. I know, it's so stupid.
It's not like I'm betting money that is going to change my life one way or the other. It's only about seeing the opportunity and then over the next twenty four hours, feeling good that I made the right decision regretting decisions I made, regretting decisions I didn't make, regretting decisions I had in front of me that I missed. Like, it's really what it comes down to for me, and I just feel better having gotten the matchup.
Bet. I know it sounds amateurs. I don't know what to tell you it is and it's not.
It's also I think it's because of this show. Right, we know how huge of a show this is and how many people listen, and a lot of pressure comes out. I wouldn't be lying to you to end this season going five zero to one on sides feels pretty fucking good for your boy. So yeah, I get where you're coming from. It's like, that's what we put all the work in for, and you know, when it comes out and works, it's like, God, this is this is the best feeling. But yeah, I agree. The hardest part is you're already onto the next week. So I definitely enjoyed it, was excited for it. When we talked Sunday night and I literally woke up Monday morning, I was just like, well, back to work, and that's just how that's the nature of this job. So I am really excited to dive into this matchup.
Well, let's get to it.
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Batt summer all here with John Matten and all that build up and all of this hoop lage, John, Is it as big as it seems?
I think it's bigger than it seems. And if you're one of these players or one of these coaches, it's the biggest thing in your life. And it's something that there are thirty teams in the league, and there are thirty teams or players and coaches, and every one of them want to be here today. And then you say, well, how big is that. It's even bigger than that, because it's not just getting here today, but it's winning today. And I think that the biggest difference in sports are the biggest gap in sports is a difference between the winner and the loser of the super Bowl. The winner, you're world champion. They can never take it away from you, you'll never forget it. The loser, they just get thrown back in the pile.
The total is forty nine and a half the money line. Since the number is so short, I do want to give that as an option right now. It's anywhere minus one twenty five to minus one thirty. I bet this as soon as it opened at Kansas City minus one and a half and Kansas City on the money line at minus one twenty Simon Simon, I'm making Kansas City on the money line. My exec decision, the choice between the unthinkable and the impossible?
Are you at your honest execute number? Executive decision already diving right in it's available.
Last week, you beat me to the punch, so I felt like to get on a straight away.
Yeah, I don't hate it, obviously. It's been interesting the movement this week, and that's what I can't wait to dive into, because we can do like a mini sharp call here just about the early reads on you know what I'm hearing and what guys are saying. And we talked Sunday night the line was moving to two. I thought we'd be sitting here, he'd be two and a half. I don't know about you.
I did.
I'm actually shocked it's not a two right now.
Yeah, and I told you the hesitation to me was going to be everyone like me that runs a model. I would be shocked if they didn't have the Eagles as a small favorite. And you know, coming into that matchup last week, I had the Chiefs as a favorite, and it really had a lot to do with I thought, you know, Hurts was injured. I really did think that knee was a real thing. You had to throw that out. The clear was no issue on the knee at all. I mean he had three rushing touchdowns. I know two of them were touch pushes, but he had another rushing touchdout was called back on a hold that really didn't affect the play all. So you should have two long rushing touchdowns. He did not look like an issue to me, So definitely a went back and looked break it all down. Do you have egos as a minus one favorite here? So I do understand the respect from the you know, heavy money coming in right now on the Eagles, because you look at most books right now it is Chiefs money, and I know in the action app it it says it's right now it's all Egles money. So I know, I know that could depending on where you're at and what books you use, it could fluctuate. But you know a couple of books I really respect. Right now, it looks like the early money is coming in on this Eagles team. So yeah, it's it's pretty interesting that the professionals are taking this Eagle side, and it looks like when you're looking at the Ticke account, that the public is doing what me and chatter probably ended up doing here and end up on the chief side because it just feels like the safer side. And we understand the Eagles are the better team. And I'm looking forward to diving into all these numbers, but you know, the Eagles to pull this off, Chad, they are going to have to be historical because we've seen my homes now it feels like the book is out, Like if you don't kill them, if you don't if not up double digits, yea, with two minutes to go with the ball, You're somehow going to lose that game. I don't know how he keeps doing it, like he just keeps finding these ways to win and that you know, the calls go their way. Everything we can talk we always talk about at the end of the day, they make the plays when they need to, like Spags makes the right blitz call when he needs to. And you know this Eagles team, then why I dive into it. It is better than that twenty seventeen team that Eagles won the Super Bowl with. And it's pretty easy to realize why Eagles had an all pro quarterback Carson Wentz go down. They have their all pro tackle and Jason Peters go down. Those are two major hits their offense. And then defensively, you know they had they had a bunch of injuries as well. So this Eagles team is healthy, like this is a team that might be getting Brandon Grahan back. So it's it's pretty well. We dive into it the fact that there are things the Eagles can do to beat this team. And I know people talked about, well, it's the Fangs defense, right then matter up, Well, you know it's the defense basically rushes four. We know from the history that's how you beat Mahomes. The only time we've seen him lose in the Super Bowl against Tom Brady was when he got pressured rushing four. That Tampa bead front was just incredible because we talked, I mean you go back with Star our podcast, we knew that game was gonna be won in the trenches from the Tampa side because they're left and right tackle ra out for the Chiefs. So when you look at this, that's the edge to me for the Eagles, right if you're looking for an edge to take here, we know the secondary is incredible. Yet I mean Quannon Mitchell in the playoffs so far twelve targets. He's gonna up four catches for twenty one yards, two interceptions of pass breakup. That's our rookie Quanyon Mitchell. That's incredible. Zach Brown, you know, could easily win Defensive Player of the Year. He's had twenty six tackles, three tackles for a loss, one force fumble, two FuMB was recovered, one interceptions, two pass deflected. That's that's insane that he's been playing dial level. So there are guys in the back end that could be a difference maker. My whole point was to getting that in Fangs defense. He he just rushes before and if you go back historically, he's zero for eight in his career against Patrick Mahomes. He's never beat Mahomes. So it's like, Okay, well maybe he's never had the guys. He's had some pretty good defenses. It's just Mahomes is just Andy Reid and Mahomes are always one step ahead. So yeah, it's it's really interesting breaking this game down with those numbers where it's like the Eagles have the defenders, but you know, Mahomes is gonna have a counter for it. Like we saw, we joked Chad that play I can't get over that rushing touchdown he had to win the game. Even the Bills defenders talk about they've never seen that on tape before. Guess where that game was. Guess where that play was on tape the Bills. They stole it from the Bills offense and ran against their defense. So Josh Allen play, they ran with Patrick Mahomes and made Travis Custer lee blacker. So that was just my long win answer getting through that. I'm trying to find reasons that back this Eagles team because it does come down the defense. But it's tough to find the silver lining here because Andy Reid and Patrickmwans always have a counter. I don't know if you feel the same way about that, chef.
Dude, you're reading my mind, and it's so funny.
Last year at this time, we were looking at the Chiefs as two.
Point underdogs, I think, and.
Struggling with betting the Chiefs because we clearly thought the Niners had a better roster, they were better at top to bottom, right, But we went with the Chiefs because you don't want to bet against Patrick Mahomes because Patrick Mahomes is a dog, and I would emphasize The stats we always talk about on Patrick Mahomes are not just as a dog, They're as a favorite of three or less or as a dog. So this is in that window. But I was thinking about this this morning. The comps are the same. I'm not betting against Patrick Mahomes. I'm not betting against Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo.
This is a Hall.
Of Fame trio who when Andy Reid has had a vehicle, a vessel for his brilliance, like Patrick Mahomes, he has pretty much been unstoppable. When I'm thinking about this game, I'm in the office today and I was just talking to the guy who runs our finance team, who happens to be a huge Buffalo Bills fan, and I said to him, we were talking about the game, obviously from this past weekend, and I was like, look, at the end of the day, over the next two weeks, do I trust Andy Reid to game plan over Nick Sirianni and Kellen Moore?
Yeah?
Do I trust Steve Spagnolo to game plan over Vic Fangio. Maybe it's even, but Spagnolo has done it in the biggest games, in the biggest circumstances, not just in Super Bowls, but that the way he disguised that blitz against Josh Allen on fourth and five was brilliant, had it in his bag the whole game and held it until he needed it.
Right.
Do I trust Patrick Mahomes over Jalen Hurts? Yes, so like I get the roster stuff at the end of the day, the people who need to make the decisions when they matter most that I trust the most.
It's going to be on the Chiefs.
That's fair. And I do want to give flowers though, I mean, I don't want to make this all just love for this Chief side. Obviously, people know I'm a dire Eagles fan, tons of respect to this team. It's incredible what how he's built here, and Chad just said it, like I'm the same view. This is no doubt the best team of football. They have the best roster roster and it all comes down to health. Right. They've been able to stay healthy and that is the key. We talk all the time to getting to this point in the season, and you know, Jalen Hurts and again I love Chad. Chad went for being one of my best men and my future wedding in fifteen years to be not invited. When he left out of his top ten this past summer, I was so mad at Chad. I couldn't believe he did it. I felt portrayal because it just felt like they hate I had gone too far with Hurts and carried over it a little bit to this season because people wanted in to throw up, throw for more yards and score more touchdowns. And you know, we've seen some amazing stats these last twenty four hours on Jailen Hurts, and I'm gonna read off a couple just because I want to put people in perspective of just how high the bar is set for people sometimes and it doesn't really make sense because it's like it feels like you're watching a totally different game. So, last three seasons, including playoffs, Patrick Mahomes Jalen Hurts, let's compare their stats. Patrick Mahomes has forty eight wins, ten losses, pretty good. Jalen Hurts forty two wins, twelve losses. Their total yards per game Mahomes two ninety, pretty impressive, Jalen Hurts two sixty. Okay. Mahomes total touchdowns one to seventeen forty three turnovers. Jalen Hurts one hundred and twenty one touchdowns, thirty nine turnovers, So you did better than that stat. Passer rating Mahomes ninety eight point five, passer rating Hurts ninety seven point five, basically identical stats across the board. One is viewed as the greatest quarterback ever. One is not a top ten quarterback to Chad Moment. So that's what I mean. It's it's tough where I get the hate, but you just go through all these stats and it's incredible. Jalen Hurts is the eighth quarterback in NFL history reached multiple Super Bowls in their first five seasons. He joins Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Kurt Warner, Troy Aikman, John Oway. Okay, maybe Russell Wilson want to make the Hall of Fame. Everyone else I just read on that list is a Hall of Famer. So it's like, I get the hate and the doubt, but there this is the team in the quarterback that I do think could pull it off. But this is a long win away of getting I don't think I'm gonna put my money on it. I think I'm with Chad here and just the fact that it's Mahomes and it's under three in this exact spot, and I was hoping Evan was gonna be here for this little part because I saw a crazy stat that mahomes Is was coming into the season. He was eleven to zero. Don't and true dome games in his career eleven and oh he's now fifteen and oh through this whole season, and don't.
Get Evan to I mean, certainly Evan will be on Thursday and we can we can have yeah.
Because that just blew my mind where it's like I knew how dominant he was in indoor games and how rare was him to play it right, because you know, no one is division as home games. I know people count their chargers. That's actually not considered a true home game. I know, as stupid as that sounds, but the Saints Dome, this is as dome as it gets. It's the super Dome, so it's wild where it's if it's perfect, no wind, no bullshit, people always like, well, how good he is in the cold? Me and Chad loved that stet right sixteen and two, when it's below free degrees the man could be might be fifteen to zero in Dome games. It's just all of his numbers, all this stuff just breaks, all this stuff, all the work I put into it. So yeah, I wanted to find reasons the back to the Sequels team. I want to believe in Jalen Hurts, want to believe in Saquon Barkley, this wrong game after seeing Cooks just do whatever the hell he wanted. Again, it's this Chiefs team last week, Like this is a good matchup for the run game for this Eagles team. But like me and Chad, no, and when it's the fourth quarter, even if the Eagles are up a touchdown, Mahomes is gonna find a way. If you let him live long enough, he will find a way. So yeah, this is a really tough spot to be in. I was really hoping we would come in here and it'd be two and a half. Three this Eagle's number, And to me, same with the Bills. I would have been comfortable taking the three on this dog one and a half. I get the respect from the pros and what their models are telling them, I just can't do it. Once it's crossed that threshold with Mahomes. Once You're getting a great number of mahomes at one and a half, and you can do what Chad's doing. There's no dishonor in taking the money line, like you want to play it as safe as possible, because last week that game could have easily landed on one. Like I know, Chad was just like me doing that crazy math where it's like, oh my god, they missed a two pointer, They're gonna kick a field goal. This is gonna land on one. There's no dishonor in taking the money line there. But to me, I don't have fear and taking the one and a half of mahomes. We've just seen super Bowl in its entire history, it's only had one game landing between three. So we're talking a long history of the Super Bowl and only one time in its history is ever landing between three. So I'm good with taking the risks taking the one and a half. I just I believe in this Chiefs team, believe in the number, and I know I hate to do it. I hate to see my team lose, and I know it's gonna hurt, But you just have to trust Mahmes and Andy Reid and Spags. Like you just said, in the spot. They always find a way. You just gotta throw the numbers out here. People. It's so tough to do. But to me, there's only one side to take, and is the Chiefs.
Is Chiefs minus one and a half yours, Sigmon says, when.
We do, I'll do it. Yeah, let's I mean, we only have so many options, right, there's like two. There's only a side in the total here. So I'm with you, Yes, Simon says, give me, gimme Chiefs minus one and a half.
What's interesting to me about this game? You know, we can talk a little bit about the matchup. I'm excited that we're on the same side, as is customary.
Honestly, I wanted to go against that. I was looking for a reason that bad.
You knew that, you knew that I love thee and I was. I was honestly nervous. Like I thought about it yesterday, I thought about it this morning. I'm like, man, I hope Simon's on my side. I know he's doing a lot of work the past couple of days, Like, I know he's gonna I knew you were gonna have the Eagles probably at minus two in this game. If I had to bet that's where you're number landed right.
No, actually, and it just Eagles minus one so one O. Thankly that is value. That means you're getting two and a half points.
I think you're getting two and a half points of value according to everybody's model, which is why people are betting it.
But guy Sean Shan's got it at Chiefs minus one and a half. So Sean Sean definitely respects the chief side. But yeah, most most pros I've talked to, but which I just said is true, most of them are minus one, minus one and a half on the Eagles, even some have minus two. So a lot of respect on the Eagle side.
Other than my just firm belief in Andy Reid, Steve Spegnolo, Patrick Mahomes and getting them is basically to win the game. A couple things about the matchup that stuck out to me that we're in favor of the Eagles that I think are being underrepresented potentially in the market or when it comes to evaluating the Chiefs. Everyone talks about the Eagles rush and it is dominant.
Jalen Carter is unreal.
Brian Baldinger, who I like to follow, he had a video clip of Jalen Carter some guy trying to undercut him and Jalen Carter flipped like literally just hurtled the guy on the way to the quarterback. It was like, the guy is such a freaking nature. But one thing that I think the Chiefs have done which a lot of people have recognized but not talked enough about. They're not a downfield passing team. And because their offensive line is just not very good right now, like Mahomes worst QBI he's ever had in his career, sacked more than he's ever been in his career. The brilliance of Andy Reid is that he's changed the offense and so there's such a quick passing offense now fifty six percent of their receiving yards came on yards after the catch. So part of me feels like some of the matchup advantages that the Eagles have, both as a coverage unit and as a rush unit are mitigated because of the way the Chiefs play offense.
Now agree or disagree.
Agree, and I do want to give flowers to Nolan Smith Junior, who you know, Jade Daniels is one of the best athletes I've ever seen, and he somehow was able to catch him a few times in that game, and you know he is a difference maker coming off that edge. Like we talked about that Eagles. If there's a defense that can stop him, my homes this is the defense. Like this is in my lifetime, the best defense Eagles I've ever had, Like the how he hit on every rookie pick and then basically got an All Pro for three million, four million dollars in the middle of the field at linebacker and braun So it's it's all come together, like this is the perfect thing. But I think Chad knows where I'm coming from where my life, Like he says, there was hesitation last year in the Super Bowl. As soon as that Ravens game ended. I didn't stop betting that Chiefs number until that that Friday, Like.
Hes that was my hesitation.
Yeah, I would say, like I was like, the fucking numbers don't matter. That was the best Ravens team that was perfectly set up to beat that chief That Chiefs team was not good last year, Like this Chiefs team. People are like, well this team isn't that good. They fucking are. This is a better Chiefs team at any point than they were last year. You know, it's just what we talk about. It's the game within the game that Mahomes plays with Andy Reid, and it's like it's it's so tough because it's like this is this Eagles team is perfectly lined up to beat this team, like they have no weakness honestly, like like we joked about it, their biggest weakness is Hurts. Honestly, when you when you really do break it down, it's like, if Hurts doesn't show up, he's gonna need to make big time thirds in this game. They will lose this game because the running attack, even the receivers, they will be able to get open. I mean Matt Collins was able to get open last week. You think aj or smith A're gonna have issues getting open. No, like they're gonna be able to scheme it open. But yeah, when I really dive into it again, we didn't even talk to the total yet. Like that's another spot. I really love the Total. I love the under This does feel like this is going to be an ugly defensive type of game from both sides, and coming into it, the public is thinking the other way in my opinion, Like to me, I haven't really looked at it, but they're going to be hammering the over because the Eagles just put up fifty five points. Chiefs just had their highest scoring game of the year last week thirty two points. It's really that simple when you break it down, like the public overreacts to what they just saw, where historical data tells us teams that just like went crazy in the conference championship game tend to struggle in the Super Bowl, right because it's like you come off or playing a perfect game and it's going to feel different, right, every little thing. Like we talked about last week and Ochad thought the Eagles left a couple of players in the field. When I go back and watch it, they got so lucky in so many different ways, like even that opening touchdown, you know, Washington getting sucked in and triple you know, Bobby Wagner tripping over his own guy. Yeah, missing the tackle, Saqua, I'm breaking the tackles fluky like no one No one's like model is gonna be like, oh no, that should have been a touchdown. No, it shouldn't have. Like a lot of things need to break their way for all those points scored in that game. So yeah, like we were talking about right now when I feel like it's gonna be a low scoring, ugly, drag it out type of game once again favors Mahomes, Like, that's exactly what the Chiefs want to play. They've been living in that this whole season, just pulling people down in the mud, just making them try to wiggle their way out of it. And the Eagles they have, like I said, they have the team to do it. The one loss that really stuck out to me they had all year was that Josh Allen loss. I mean, I know it was way early in the season, but you saw how they can do it right with a mobile quarterback. That does give the Chiefs fits. Like that element of it is an issue to the Chiefs defense because there's so many different options you can run with it, and we saw it this past week. I mean, it was there for Josh Allen to steal it once again. Why because he's a mobile quarterback and they do struggle with so there are ways to do it. But I mean you can just tell like me and Chad, we just we've been burned, We've learned our lessons. We feel like we're in the moments of history. Don't overthink a right Chad. That's what I keep telling myself. Take chiefs at a great number, Mahomes. I mean, Chad knows these stats. I just want to read it again. I mean we've been talking all week. I know Evans might bring it up to on extended rest, Mahomes is thirty and four straight up in his career on eight plus days of rest. His only losses is one of them is two. Jalen hurts like it hurts, did do it one time? You're asking a lightning to strike twice here because it's only half four times Brady Matt Ryan Jalen hurts in O'Connell Mahomes. In the playoffs, his record Chad seventeen and three eighty five percent straight up. This man, we just it doesn't make sense. The only the only person he's behind. I love the staff from Evan is bart Starr, who's nine on one straight up in the playoffs. That's what we're talking here. People. It's like the greatest quarterback ever though.
They quarterback who's three pete he's chasing.
I love it. Yeah, I don't even think of that. It's so true. So yeah, it's we know we're sitting in history. Chad's embraced it. I'm still fighting it because I am just to my dying breath being like, no, this can't be true. I can't see my favorite team lose two super Bowls in three years. But it does feel like we're living in history and this is Mahomes's moment. So yeah, Chad, I again. I'm trying to find a way people. I'm hoping to come in Thursday next week, on Tuesday and be like, oh, I found this. This is why you should take the egos at this point. But no, the number is gone the other ways. It's a good number on Mahomes at this point. The value is on Mahomes. Let's take Mahomes here together.
Brother, Oh my god, I feel like maybe I'll be your best man again again.
You're back in time you find love.
By the time you find love, you'll have forgotten all about this. You'll have been in like so many stupors.
By then you'll be like, I love Chad. We were on the Chiefs together.
Uh, all right, there's a couple more things that I have, but I feel like they played nicely into Uh. Doctor Nick and some of his regression analysis and.
The luck range and get some.
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We usually go from the two minute warning through halftime and we're just firing off live bets. I have built a proprietary model which takes in and ingests Sean Kerner's pregame projections. Right, we have the most accurate projecting guy on the planet here takes us pregame projections and then translates those into in game projections and we.
Just fire off bets.
Whenever the model shows value, it looks at the current game state, score, different what the money line is, all that stuff, and kind of figures out how things will develop for the rest of the game. The number of expected plays each team's.
Pass run ratio, et cetera.
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Speaking of Super Bowl props, a lot of people have been asking when we're dropping our prop episodes featuring Nick, Sean Kerner, Chris Raybond, Grant Niffer. Because these have hit at an obscene rate these last few Super Bowls, we're doing those as two sets of Wednesday live shows. Try to catch these live as these numbers get crushed as soon as any of these guys talk about them. We go live in the Action Network YouTube channel and on Twitter at Action Network HQ Wednesday the twenty ninth and Wednesday February fifth. Each time we'll do a part one at four pm Eastern with Doctor Nick and Grant, and then part two with Raybound and Kerner at six pm. Marcter Calendars super Bowl Props Live shows next two Wednesdays, four pm, six pm. Action Network YouTube page, Action Network HQ on Twitter. All right, here's my question for you before we get into all your luck ranking stuff, which crushed by the way, like totals, we're twenty one to twelve. You know, over the course of the season, there's a lot of turnover regression that I think is possible in this game. The Eagles have a plus ten turnover margin heading into the Super Bowl through the playoffs. That's the best in I think twenty five years. On Sunday, the Chiefs, while they've won eight games prior without a turnover. They had one turnover, the Bills had none. The Bills, according to Mike count, had six turnover worthy plays, two new interceptions from Josh Allen in the first series, and they had four fumbles they were covered on their own. Do you think there is some turnover regression here that could play a factor in the game.
Yeah, I mean it's certainly possible, right, And one of the things is you do make your own luck. So a lot of what the Eagles did, I think it was every fumble that hit the ground against the Commanders, the Eagles rec So you know, there is an element if you make your own luck. But when the ball hits the ground, it can bounce in funny ways, So there certainly is an element of luck as well that you aren't creating. But look, I mean, if you're forcing fumbles, you're bound to recover.
Some of those fumbles.
So if the Eagles keep forcing fumbles, that'll bode well for them because they're still going to recover, you know, around sixty percent of them or so. I think the team that forces a fumble tends to recover around sixty percent long term. But that said, yeah, certainly Eagles came in over expectation versus the Commanders, Chiefs came in under turnover expectation versus the Bills. But that's also, you know, just each team's most recent game, so you got to kind of look at the longer term statistics and probably a little bit of luck favoring the Eagles, so they've been a little bit more lucky than the Chiefs and the turnover department. But you know, to me, it's not a super major factor in luck specifically for this game.
How did the luck rankings grade this game?
Yeah, this is an interesting one the luck rankings. These two teams are one spot apart in our luck rankings, so there's no luck edge on the side and the luck total and in the playoffs, anything above a one and a quarter below minus one and a quarter would be a luckover or a luck under. Well, this game is minus zero point one, so no.
Luck on either. And here's the funny thing. Two years ago when these teams.
Played, they were one place apart and the luck total was minus zero point one. It is a repeat of twenty twenty two, which is incredible. I couldn't believe it when I saw that.
Well Son and to me, that kind of plays into your theory exactly, like this is a grinded out last team with the ball potentially wins, and we're kind of just betting that the Chiefs will be the last ones with the ball.
I guess yeah.
And it kind of scares of what Nick talking about because that last time they played in the Super Bowl, obviously that was an easy over. That game went way over. So to me, what he talked about, though, touch a litt bit on that I expect from both teams is red zone regression. Right there both have just been scoring a ton of touchdowns in the red zone, where the Eagles are not that team, right, They're usually a team that it does struggle once they get in the red zone. This past season, right this playoffs have been much better. And on the flip side, the Chiefs, it's been insane how that much they've just been scoring in the red zone, right, They've not been taking the threes that they have that they did during the regular season. So to me, the turn of regression is a little scary because that could make for some short fields and we are talking about that, but I think it playcates to both these teams that they're just both quarterbacks are so smart protecting the ball that they know that if they don't turn the ball over, they're probably gonna win the game, right if they just put their team in the best position. So that is kind of the weird part with this Eagles team is that I do think they've been really lucky with the turnovers. But like Nick said, they've been making their own looks right. They've been going after the ball. They've been punching the ball out, not just in that snow game, but in that last game against Washington on the flip side, Washington was trying to punch the ball and they just couldn't do it right. That's the type of thing it is where it's like, you know, when you have an all pro like Saquon, you can punch all you want. The dude is so strong that boy ain't coming out. So I agree they had been lucky, but it's definitely the players that have in the field that make that luck.
One more thing that plays to why I like the Chiefs is I do think if it's a close game and they get the ball with four minutes left, I don't have a ton of confidence the Eagles are getting the ball back to me that plays into the strength of who the Chiefs are and why you want to be on the side of the Chiefs. Nick, I don't know if you have any thoughts yet. I know you're gonna have thoughts on props that I want to get to. But like, have you thought about the side or the total in this game independent of the luck rankings?
Yeah, I mean in terms of satura are total. It's the thing that keeps printing is those Chiefs second half unders.
Even in that high.
Scoring game against the Bills just this last week, if you got your twenty four and a half, if you got the under twenty four and a half, it landed on twenty four, right, And I talked about that. On't convinced me get that twenty four and a half at minus one twenty if you got to pay for it, and it landed on twenty four. But the Eagles they're a possession team, right. They possessed the ball thirty two minutes per game number one in the NFL. And then the Chiefs, like you said, in the second half, if they have the ball, they're gonna make it so the Eagles don't.
Get the ball back.
So I think a second half under if you want to go with you the luck totals minus zero point one. There's no luck on the over or the under, and in the Super Bowl. Since we have started our luck rankings in twenty eighteen, the luck total anytime it's been above or below minus one and a half or plus or sorry one in a quarter or plus one in a quarter has hit. The only one that didn't hit was this minus point one two years ago when it went over. So don't factor in the luck. Just analyze this game on its own merits, because the luck rank can say nothing about it. But those second half unders for the Chiefs just keep printing this year.
And the only reason I didn't make the over under, my Simon says, is just because you can be patient with this total. Like we talked about it, it's heavy over public money right now, and in professional betters are taking the over. So to me, I mean Nick Tuckle the time about key numbers. This could go through a key number of fifty to fifty one and a half, like you might if you're patient, or you might be able to get a really nice number. Obviously, if you want to take it now for nine and a half, I have no issue. That's a great number to get this under on. But I think what Nick's talking about here is that you can afford to be patient. If you like that second half under, you might get another extra point if you keep waiting. The public keeps hamming this over. So it's really interesting. All the money right now, it's just all of it. Any book you look at I'm looking at is on the over, So it's interesting. Cha had to tell it at forty nine and a half. We're two days in. It's just holding.
Yeah, And I'm actually shocked, right it opened at fifty and a half, immediately got that down. Hasn't gone up from the forty nine and a half number. These numbers are all basically painted like everyone's minus in one and a half, everyone's forty nine and a half. Which is why I'm going to be really curious to see if it budges. I don't You're right, Simon. If it's gonna budge, it'll be much closer to the weekend, potentially Sunday afternoon, four o'clock, when half of New Orleans is piling into a legal sports book somewhere or hammering their apps, including bet three sixty five because it's legal in Louisiana, and they are just going bonkers betting the over, you know, and potentially betting the Chiefs, which sets up you know, let's say it does get to three. By the way, let's say it does get to three. At that point, if you've bet the one and a half, we throw a little on the Eagles at plus three and try to get the middle.
Yeah, even if you're trying to play the middle, you can do it at two and a half. Right, the three doesn't matter so much you're around the push. But I think the books have made their move at this point. The only way I can see this going now is flipping. I don't think maybe I'll get to two. I don't think i'll touch two and a half. I could see this either flipping or just staying one a half at this point, just because they found the resistance right when they moved down from two to one and a half. That just shows the resistance of really smart money coming on the Eagles. So I think the books are gonna be happy in their position.
Hi, Nick, you've already identified some props. I know that you're racing through your research. Give me some ideas here what you're looking at so far?
Yeah, well, you know, obviously the game's just finished on Sunday, Yesterdays Monday, so I spent all of yesterday breaking down this Chief's offense. Where are these receivers going to line up? Who are they going to line up against? Things that nature?
But before you do that, before you explain that, I started to interrupt you. But like, I know what that looks like for Simon, and I know what that looks like for me. But you come at this from an entirely different perspective as a mathematician. So what does it mean when you say you were looking at this game trying to see where receivers are going to line up?
Are you watching film? How are you thinking about the process here?
Yeah, not film, a lot of numbers, right, So are you lining up in the slot? Are you lining up out wide, inline, backfield, those kinds of things. So where on the field are you positioning or are the receivers positioning themselves? But then I'm also looking at things like pressure rates. So certain receivers get targeted more when the quarterback is under pressure when Mahomes is under pressure, and certain receivers get targeted less when he's under pressure. Additionally, you look at coverages. So if the opposing defense is playing a too high safety shell versus a single high safety, certain receivers get targeted in different ways. So all those things kind of get factored together and you mold those into a projection, and you know, that's kind of what I'm looking at. So I'm not really looking at the film aspect of things, just a lot of numericality stuff, right that I that I'm looking you know, putting my math PhD to to good work here.
So you're going, that's a lot of what I was doing yesterday.
You're going to like the advanced analytics sites, whether it's NFL next Gen Stats or you know, pro football focused places like that, that are giving you the percentages of where players are lining up.
You're flowing that into a model. You're running your model, et cetera, et cetera.
Okay, exactly, Yeah, that's one hundred percent, right.
And so when you do that, you know one of the things I noticed, which of course everybody knows, these Eagles cornerbacks are amazing, right, You got Quingyan, Mitchell, Darius Slay, Cooper de Gene. These guys allow targets at such a low rate because they produce such awesome coverage that what that does, even though the Eagles don't generate a ton of pressure, they generate the fifth lowest pressure rate in the regular season, it still forces quarterbacks to scramble. We talk about the coverage sack, well, these are the coverage scrambles that the Eagles force.
So they either get coverage sacks.
Because even though they are the fifth lowest pressure rate, they're about mid tier in terms of sack rate, so that means coverage sacks, but they also allow coverage scrambles. And whether it's a coverage sack or coverage scramble, it does two things. It takes away a pass attempt from the quarterback that would have been a pass attempt right and it eats clock because if you're scrambling, the clock's gonna run, or if you get sacked, the clock is going to run. Both of those things help an under so chat. I don't know if you want to give me my favorite player prop, but I'm kind of hitting at it. It's Patrick Mahomes under thirty six and a half passing attempts.
You can get it.
Minus one nineteen I think is the best out there. A lot of minus one twenties. I have Patrick Mahomes projected for between thirty four and a half thirty five as my average number in the model. I went over to Sean Kerner. I was like, are you shown val on this? Because I am, And He's like, yeah, I've got this closer to thirty five. So we're both showing value on this under thirty six and a half pass attempts for Mahomes.
A couple other reasons why I like it. The Eagles, we talked about it.
Number one in possession time of possession thirty two minutes per game right around there. Give her take a little bit. If the Eagles are possessing the ball, Mahomes can't be throwing it and Mahomes is looking to run in the playoff house, right, They protect him in the regular season, and we've seen this even with certain play calls. There's play calls that the Bills didn't even see on film all year that the Chiefs ran in that game versus the Bills. The Chiefs really open things up in the playoffs because they no longer need to protect Mahomes. The goals to win the Super Bowl Mahomes seven and eleven rushing attempts in the two playoff games. Those are his two highest rushing attempt totals of the whole season, So if he's running a few extra times, that's taking away pass attempts. Holmes is average thirty five point one pass attempts on the year, twenty five and a half in the playoffs, and the Eagles only allow thirty one point eight pass attempts per game. So a lot of things pointing to the under thirty six and a half pass attempts for Mahomes.
What do you think of that? Simon?
Love it. I mean, remember I'll not convince me. Anytime I had to do prior props. Almost always went to the quarterback completion because you can find a lot of value on a lot of different quarterbacks. This year, obviously, I was always hanmering Anthony richardson unders. It was really profitable depend on their match. If you knew that the Culture were going to win, it was basically easy money just to set of bedding the spread. You just take his under completions because they just would run the ball anytime they did win. So I love the thinking you're with, Nick, especially the fact that this is going to be bumped up because it's the books taking the season average of Mahomes. Matter of factory what Nick just talked about in the playoffs, Mahomes runs it much more like something that they can't quantify. So to me, I love to play because we know both teams are going to lead the clock, which means less possessions, which means less time throwing the ball. So love this opening one from Nick.
Also, it correlates to what we would like to happen if Patrick Mahomes is throwing it less than chances are the Chiefs are doing. Yeah, okay, uh doctor Nick, what's another one?
Uh?
Well, that's the only prop I've got so far. I did bet yesterday a Xavier Worthy as GP. I took his under five and a half receptions and I parlayed it with his touchdown. So a little anti correlation there. I'm showing value on his under five and a half and I'm showing value as anytime touchdown. So if I'm showing value on both, why not parlay them and get that extra boost and odds because of the negative correlation. Uh So that's the only other bet I have made so far for the Super Bowl. After this podcast, I'm gonna be diving into the Eagles side of the ball. Uh And you know, I'm sure we'll have some Eagles props. Got the prop a Palooza show tomorrow, like you said, So I got to get on those Eagles props as well and have something for that show.
What do you think about this matchup for Travis Kelcey where we've seen the Eagles the one place you get attack. I mean we talked last week. I think everyone action loved Earth's last week and he ended up having what one hundred yards shit done of catches. Week before that, we saw Higbee have a good game against the Eagles. Even the backup number two tight end had a good game against he Go. I think he scored a touchdown against the Eagles. Are you using a ton of value right on Travis kelser Is that market just dead because of who he is and what the betting public does with with Travis kels Because I haven't bet it yet, I'm just wonder you're coming from your numbers, are saying this is a good spot or is this a spot just to avoid Travis Kelceer props?
This is this is interesting because it's Travis Kelcey, right, I mean, he's dating Taylor Swift, you'd think the public's going to be hammering his over, so there wouldn't be value on us over. But last I checked, which admittedly was yesterday, I was showing some value on Travis kelce over on his receptions, which is mind boggling when you think about where the public usually is. So maybe I'll end up joining the public. I haven't bet it yet myself, because it's less than a five percent edge that I have on it, but you're right. I mean, he lines up out wide very little in the playoffs. He's out lined up out wide seven percent on the right, six percent on the left, in the slot thirty three percent, but more than half his snaps come either in line or in other spots on the field that he's going to be avoiding those Eagles top three cornerbacks and so they'll end up targeting Travis Kelcey quite a bunch, and I think this is a very good spot for Travis Kelcey.
Doctor Nick, I like that you mentioned Xavier Worthy. You know that was a big one for convincing me this week that the touchdown projections that you and Kerner have been doing all season have been crushing it. So I like the idea of that Xavier worthy under five and a half receptions plus in any time touchdown. He's getting more and more into the offense, obviously getting more and more target share. Got inches away two weeks ago, got in there last week.
Very good one.
Look, if you're listening to the show, you know that the Luck rankings are a regular reference point for us. I'm glad we could have Doctor nickon to break it down a little bit more from a luck perspective.
Thanks Doctor Nick, of course.
Glad to join you guys, and ready for that twenty twenty two rerunch. By the way, Simon, congrats to your eagles against my commanders. Did feel the pain a little bit, just like our producer for the Buffalo Bill's side of things as well.
You'll always have the hard rock brother.
That's right, that's funny.
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