In today's podcast Paul has a conversation with Susan Stroud of No Bull Ag. Susan went out on her own a few years back after working several years for ADM and Continental Grain near St. Louis. We discuss the possible impact of tariffs, the turmoil with Section 45Z and other topics. Susan also puts on an annual conference in St. Louis and just got back from taking several farmers on a tour of the Panama Canal. She plans on a trip to Brazil next February.