In today's podcast Paul has a conversation with Matt Gunderson, vice president of Farmers National Company. Farmers National was founded October, 1929 right at the start of the depression. The company currently has 12 business lines serving farmers and clients in 40 states with almost 300 employees. The company is employee owned since 2001. We also discuss how having a good team is important for estate and succession planning and how a sale-leaseback of farmland might help some farmers.