on, a storyline going somewhat under the radar for IU/Miami, more fallout from Chris Ballard’s end of season presser, the “do you still have your juju or shimmer?”, Anthony Richardson vs. Riley Leonard, NFL Divisional matchups, Kevin loves Ben Johnson and his hate for the Packers

26:14 – 42:59 – Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle joins us and what he thought of last night’s win over the Celtics, Jay Huff’s versatility, Quenton Jackson’s fearlessness, how All-Star selections among coaches work, no fouls in last night’s fourth quarter, biggest assets in reaching 1,000 career wins, his thoughts on Joe Mazzulla’s postgame comments about an “illegal screen”

43:00 – 56:21 - ACC Network’s Taylor Tannenbaum joins us to discuss IU playing Miami in the national championship, how unbelievable the IU run has been, the reemergence of Miami, mindset heading into their game against the Hoosiers, what the Hurricanes do best and how they can slow down the Hoosiers, Michael Irvin, what she misses most about Indy