What does it take to turn promising energy technology into real-world projects? In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Andy Beard, Shell's Vice President of Hydrogen, discusses what’s needed to develop large-scale renewable-hydrogen projects.

Hydrogen is already widely used around the world, but most of it is produced using fossil fuels. The conversation explores where renewable hydrogen could make the biggest difference and how customer demand, infrastructure, economics and policy all play a role in its development.

The episode also features Daniëlle Ebentreich, a manager at Shell’s Pernis refinery in Netherlands, who offers a closer look at how renewable hydrogen from Shell’s Holland Hydrogen 1 project will be integrated into day-to-day operations at Pernis.

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Notes:

- The reference in this episode to Shell being one of the world’s leading providers of conventional and low-carbon fuels relates to its status as one of the world’s leading suppliers of conventional and lower-carbon fuels and lubricants to aviation and marine customers.

- The reference in this episode to 9–14 million tonnes per annum relates to the capacity that, according to the Hydrogen Council’s Global Hydrogen Compass 2025, the current project pipeline could support by 2030, after accounting for delays and expected attrition and depending on how much supply secures offtake.

- HH1 is intended primarily to produce hydrogen qualifying as renewable, although there may be limited periods where operational constraints require continued production using electricity that does not meet the applicable requirements for renewable hydrogen.

- In 2025, 80.85% of Shell’s global investments included oil & gas, 9.58% included low-carbon energy solutions and 9.58% non-energy products.

Global Hydrogen Compass 2025: https://compass.hydrogencouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Hydrogen-Council-Global-Hydrogen-Compass-2025.pdf

About The Energy Podcast: https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html

Cautionary note: https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html

What does it take to turn promising energy technology into real-world projects? In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Andy Beard, Shell's Vice President of Hydrogen, discusses what&rsquo;s needed to develop large-scale renewable-hydrogen projects.
Hydrogen is already widely used around the world, but most of it is produced using fossil fuels. The conversation explores where renewable hydrogen could make the biggest difference and how customer demand, infrastructure, economics and policy all play a role in its development.
The episode also features Dani&euml;lle Ebentreich, a manager at Shell&rsquo;s Pernis refinery in Netherlands, who offers a closer look at how renewable hydrogen from Shell&rsquo;s Holland Hydrogen 1 project will be integrated into day-to-day operations at Pernis.
Listen or watch now.
Notes:
- The reference in this episode to Shell being one of the world&rsquo;s leading providers of conventional and low-carbon fuels relates to its status as one of the world&rsquo;s leading suppliers of conventional and lower-carbon fuels and lubricants to aviation and marine customers.
- The reference in this episode to 9&ndash;14 million tonnes per annum relates to the capacity that, according to the Hydrogen Council&rsquo;s Global Hydrogen Compass 2025, the current project pipeline could support by 2030, after accounting for delays and expected attrition and depending on how much supply secures offtake.
- HH1 is intended primarily to produce hydrogen qualifying as renewable, although there may be limited periods where operational constraints require continued production using electricity that does not meet the applicable requirements for renewable hydrogen.
- In 2025, 80.85% of Shell&rsquo;s global investments included oil &amp; gas, 9.58% included low-carbon energy solutions and 9.58% non-energy products.
Global Hydrogen Compass 2025: <a href="https://compass.hydrogencouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Hydrogen-Council-Global-Hydrogen-Compass-2025.pdf">https://compass.hydrogencouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Hydrogen-Council-Global-Hydrogen-Compass-2025.pdf</a>
About The Energy Podcast: <a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html">https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html</a>
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What it takes to scale lower-carbon energy technology

What is driving the growth in energy demand? From transport to industry, how are customer needs changing?

From fuels and lubricants to chemicals, electric-vehicle charging and lower-carbon solutions, customer expectations are evolving and industries are adapting. In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Machteld de Haan, Shell's President of Downstream, Renewables and Energy Solutions, discusses why different sectors require different solutions, what customers need today, and how policy, technology and demand influence whether new energy solutions can scale.

About The Energy Podcast: https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html

Cautionary note: https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html

What is driving the growth in energy demand? From transport to industry, how are customer needs changing?
From fuels and lubricants to chemicals, electric-vehicle charging and lower-carbon solutions, customer expectations are evolving and industries are adapting. In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Machteld de Haan, Shell's President of Downstream, Renewables and Energy Solutions, discusses why different sectors require different solutions, what customers need today, and how policy, technology and demand influence whether new energy solutions can scale.
About The Energy Podcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html">https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html</a>
Cautionary note:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html">https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html</a>

Energy demand: what customers need now

Liquefied natural gas (LNG) provides energy security to many countries around the world. But what is the impact of the conflict in the Middle East, and does it change the outlook for the LNG market in the decades ahead?
 
In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Shell's President of Integrated Gas, Cederic Cremers, and Executive Vice President LNG Marketing and Trading, Tom Summers, discuss how the LNG market responded to the disruption in the Strait of Hormuz, which affected around one-fifth of global LNG trade.
 
The episode examines what the disruption revealed about energy security, supply diversification and global demand for LNG. It also looks at the role of LNG in power generation, industry and transport today and in the future.
 
LNG Outlook 2026: https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/liquefied-natural-gas-lng/lng-outlook-2026.html 
 
LNG: https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/liquefied-natural-gas-lng.html 
 
Additional context: when speakers refer to Shell's reduction of methane emissions, they are referring to a 78% reduction in total methane emissions from assets under Shell operational control, from 138,000 tonnes in 2016 to 31,000 tonnes in 2025. Based on the data published in Shell plc's Annual Report and Accounts for the year ended December 31, 2025. The information reflects Shell's position as reported at that date and may not represent current performance, achievements or progress. 
 
References to LNG as a lower-carbon alternative are application-specific, such as replacing coal in industry and power generation and oil in heavy-duty road transport and shipping, and are not intended as absolute comparisons across all applications and circumstances.
 
Methane emissions: https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/methane-emissions.html 
 
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Liquefied natural gas (LNG) provides energy security to many countries around the world. But what is the impact of the conflict in the Middle East, and does it change the outlook for the LNG market in the decades ahead? &nbsp; In this episode of The Energy Podcast, Shell's President of Integrated Gas, Cederic Cremers, and Executive Vice President LNG Marketing and Trading, Tom Summers, discuss how the LNG market responded to the disruption in the Strait of Hormuz, which affected around one-fifth of global LNG trade. &nbsp; The episode examines what the disruption revealed about energy security, supply diversification and global demand for LNG. It also looks at the role of LNG in power generation, industry and transport today and in the future. &nbsp; LNG Outlook 2026: <a href="https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/liquefied-natural-gas-lng/lng-outlook-2026.html">https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/liquefied-natural-gas-lng/lng-outlook-2026.html</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; LNG: <a href="https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/liquefied-natural-gas-lng.html">https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/liquefied-natural-gas-lng.html</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; Additional context: when speakers refer to Shell's reduction of methane emissions, they are referring to a 78% reduction in total methane emissions from assets under Shell operational control, from 138,000 tonnes in 2016 to 31,000 tonnes in 2025. Based on the data published in Shell plc's Annual Report and Accounts for the year ended December 31, 2025. The information reflects Shell's position as reported at that date and may not represent current performance, achievements or progress.&nbsp; &nbsp; References to LNG as a lower-carbon alternative are application-specific, such as replacing coal in industry and power generation and oil in heavy-duty road transport and shipping, and are not intended as absolute comparisons across all applications and circumstances. &nbsp; Methane emissions: <a href="https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/methane-emissions.html">https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/methane-emissions.html</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; About The Energy Podcast: <a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html">https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; Cautionary note: <a href="https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html">https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html</a>&nbsp;

The future of LNG: demand, growth and energy security

What happens when a global energy chokepoint closes?

In this episode of The Energy Podcast, we go inside Shell's response to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a disruption that put around a fifth of global oil and LNG supplies at risk.
 
Drawing on first-hand experience, Shell's Chief of Staff Tony Nunan and Executive Vice President Shipping and Maritime Karrie Trauth reflect on navigating uncertainty, supporting ships and crews affected by the crisis, and working with governments, partners and customers to help keep energy flowing safely.

From difficult decisions to the complexity of global shipping networks, this is a behind-the-scenes look at navigating a crisis when the world's energy system is under strain.
 
About The Energy Podcast: https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html
 
Cautionary note: https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html

What happens when a global energy chokepoint closes?
In this episode of The Energy Podcast, we go inside Shell's response to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a disruption that put around a fifth of global oil and LNG supplies at risk. &nbsp; Drawing on first-hand experience, Shell's Chief of Staff Tony Nunan and Executive Vice President Shipping and Maritime Karrie Trauth reflect on navigating uncertainty, supporting ships and crews affected by the crisis, and working with governments, partners and customers to help keep energy flowing safely.
From difficult decisions to the complexity of global shipping networks, this is a behind-the-scenes look at navigating a crisis when the world's energy system is under strain. &nbsp; About The Energy Podcast: https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html &nbsp; Cautionary note: https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html

Strait of Hormuz: Inside the response to a global energy crisis

What is the ongoing disruption to global energy supplies revealing about the energy system?

In this first episode of a new season of The Energy Podcast, we step back from the headlines to examine how the system is responding to the shocks prompted by the Middle East conflict, and what it could mean for the energy transition.

With insights from Shell’s Chief Energy Adviser Peter Wood, Chief Economist Mallika Ishwaran, and Chief Climate Change Adviser David Hone, the discussion explores the resilience of global supply, the shifting balance between energy security, affordability and sustainability, and why the energy transition remains complex, uneven and long term.

About The Energy Podcast: https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html

More on Shell Scenarios: https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/scenarios.html

Cautionary note: https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html

What is the ongoing disruption to global energy supplies revealing about the energy system?
In this first episode of a new season of The Energy Podcast, we step back from the headlines to examine how the system is responding to the shocks prompted by the Middle East conflict, and what it could mean for the energy transition.
With insights from Shell&rsquo;s Chief Energy Adviser Peter Wood, Chief Economist Mallika Ishwaran, and Chief Climate Change Adviser David Hone, the discussion explores the resilience of global supply, the shifting balance between energy security, affordability and sustainability, and why the energy transition remains complex, uneven and long term.
About The Energy Podcast: <a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html" data-outlook-id="2e5d8bbb-7195-4c6e-b898-aa7d75e51113">https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html" data-outlook-id="2d501cb3-5858-4603-9b85-3e1d9d01e0fa">https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html</a>
More on Shell Scenarios: <a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/scenarios.html" data-outlook-id="7d6e101d-0b66-4a67-9366-ae46bf9238d3">https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/scenarios.html</a>
Cautionary note: <a href="https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html" data-outlook-id="0c889aed-1e1d-430c-9749-705a2db18426">https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html</a>

What does today’s crisis reveal about the future of energy? | The Energy Podcast

In the season finale of The Energy Podcast, Shell’s CEO Wael Sawan reflects on a year of significant change globally. He discusses navigating through uncertainty, accelerating the energy transition, and embracing AI. He also shares how Shell is transforming into a fitter, more competitive company – one better equipped to navigate whatever lies ahead.

Tune in for insights into the energy system, the outlook for liquefied natural gas (LNG), and leadership through times of change.

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Episode references

References to $20-22 billion of capital or investment per year refer to Shell's cash capital expenditure of $20-22 billion per year between 2025-2028.

References to distributions of 40-50% of our cash flow from operations (CFFO) refers to Shell's shareholder distributions target of 40-50% of CFFO through the cycle.

For more on the reference to $20 billion of capital Shell has employed in power as well as lower-carbon businesses, see Shell's Capital Markets Day 2025 presentation: Delivering more value, with less emissions

For more information on Shell’s energy transition targets and ambition, visit Climate | Shell Global

In 2024, 78.2% of Shell's global investments included oil & gas, 11.37% included low-carbon energy solutions and 10.43% non-energy products. Shell's target is to become a net-zero emissions (NZE) business by 2050. Cautionary note, including NZE target:  Cautionary note | Shell Global

In the season finale of The Energy Podcast, Shell&rsquo;s CEO Wael Sawan reflects on a year of significant change globally. He discusses navigating through uncertainty, accelerating the energy transition, and embracing AI. He also shares how Shell is transforming into a fitter, more competitive company &ndash; one better equipped to navigate whatever lies ahead.
Tune in for insights into the energy system, the outlook for liquefied natural gas (LNG), and leadership through times of change.
<a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html?utm_source=youtube&amp;utm_medium=audio&amp;utm_content=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=energypodcast">Learn more about The Energy Podcast</a>
The Energy Podcast is a Starstruck Media production for Shell.
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Episode references
References to $20-22 billion of capital or investment per year refer to Shell's cash capital expenditure of $20-22 billion per year between 2025-2028.
References to distributions of 40-50% of our cash flow from operations (CFFO) refers to Shell's shareholder distributions target of 40-50% of CFFO through the cycle.
For more on the reference to $20 billion of capital Shell has employed in power as well as lower-carbon businesses, see Shell's Capital Markets Day 2025 presentation:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shell.com/investors/investor-presentations/capital-markets-day-2025/_jcr_content/root/main/section/promo_1962010312_cop/links/item0.stream/1742903162826/67700c87ef4274e68b6eaf4b222101e2f44040aa/cmd-25-slides.pdf">Delivering more value, with less emissions</a>
For more information on Shell&rsquo;s energy transition targets and ambition, visit&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shell.com/sustainability/climate.html">Climate | Shell Global</a>
In 2024, 78.2% of Shell's global investments included oil &amp; gas, 11.37% included low-carbon energy solutions and 10.43% non-energy products. Shell's target is to become a net-zero emissions (NZE) business by 2050. Cautionary note, including NZE target: &nbsp;<a href="https://www.shell.com/investors/disclaimer-and-cautionary-note.html">Cautionary note | Shell Global</a>

Shell’s CEO talks transformation, leadership, and the future of energy

Oil is the source of about 30% of the world's energy today. It’s also the basis of ingredients in many everyday products - from your phone to clothes to medicines. Featuring Shell's President of Upstream, Peter Costello, this episode of The Energy Podcast explores the evolving role of oil in the energy mix.

Peter discusses the future of oil in the energy transition, the impact of growing energy demand, and the need to continue investing in production that’s cost- and carbon-competitive to help provide the energy the world needs today. 

Learn about Shell’s oil and gas activities

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The Energy Podcast is a Starstruck Media production for Shell.

Oil is the source of about 30% of the world's energy today. It&rsquo;s also the basis of ingredients in many everyday products - from your phone to clothes to medicines. Featuring Shell's President of Upstream, Peter Costello, this episode of The Energy Podcast explores the evolving role of oil in the energy mix.
Peter discusses the future of oil in the energy transition, the impact of growing energy demand, and the need to continue investing in production that&rsquo;s cost- and carbon-competitive to help provide the energy the world needs today.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas.html?utm_source=youtube&amp;utm_medium=audio&amp;utm_content=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=energypodcast">Learn about Shell&rsquo;s oil and gas activities</a>
<a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html?utm_source=youtube&amp;utm_medium=audio&amp;utm_content=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=energypodcast">Learn more about The Energy Podcast</a>
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The role of oil in the energy mix: today and in the future

How does the energy that powers lives move across the globe? In this episode, The Energy Podcast sets a course for the world of shipping with Karrie Trauth, Executive Vice President for Shipping and Maritime at Shell. She explains shipping’s vital, non-stop role as the backbone of today’s global energy system, connecting supply with demand across continents.

Discover how much of global trade and energy are moved by sea, the challenges of keeping energy supplies flowing, and how the shipping industry is tackling decarbonisation.

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Cautionary note

For more on green corridors, click here.

The Energy Podcast is a Starstruck Media production for Shell.

How does the energy that powers lives move across the globe? In this episode, The Energy Podcast sets a course for the world of shipping with Karrie Trauth, Executive Vice President for Shipping and Maritime at Shell. She explains shipping&rsquo;s vital, non-stop role as the backbone of today&rsquo;s global energy system, connecting supply with demand across continents.
Discover how much of global trade and energy are moved by sea, the challenges of keeping energy supplies flowing, and how the shipping industry is tackling decarbonisation.
<a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html?utm_source=youtube&amp;utm_medium=audio&amp;utm_content=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=energypodcast">Learn more about The Energy Podcast</a>
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For more on green corridors,&nbsp;<a href="https://globalmaritimeforum.org/green-corridors/">click here</a>.
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Keeping the world moving: shipping’s lead role in the energy system

In this bonus episode of The Energy Podcast, host Eddie is joined by Valeria Loreti, Principal Scientist and Delivery Manager in Motorsports at Shell, to explore the future of sustainable racing fuels for Formula 1 team Scuderia Ferrari HP.

Starting in 2026, all Formula 1 cars will need to run on fuel made from advanced sustainable components – including advanced biofuels derived from non-food biomass or household waste, and renewable fuels of non-biological origin – as part of the sport’s plan to reach net-zero emissions by 2030. A key member of the Shell team developing Scuderia Ferrari HP’s bespoke fuel for 2026, Valeria shares exclusive insights into the science and cutting-edge tools behind fuel development, what happens trackside on an F1 race weekend, and the 75 years of partnership with Ferrari – one of the most iconic collaborations in motorsport.

Whether you're a motorsports fan, a tech enthusiast, or curious about the future of racing, this episode is for you.

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The Energy Podcast is a Starstruck Media production for Shell. 

In this bonus episode of The Energy Podcast, host Eddie is joined by Valeria Loreti, Principal Scientist and Delivery Manager in Motorsports at Shell, to explore the future of sustainable racing fuels for Formula 1 team Scuderia Ferrari HP.
Starting in 2026, all Formula 1 cars will need to run on fuel made from advanced sustainable components &ndash; including advanced biofuels derived from non-food biomass or household waste, and renewable fuels of non-biological origin &ndash; as part of the sport&rsquo;s plan to reach net-zero emissions by 2030. A key member of the Shell team developing Scuderia Ferrari HP&rsquo;s bespoke fuel for 2026, Valeria shares exclusive insights into the science and cutting-edge tools behind fuel development, what happens trackside on an F1 race weekend, and the 75 years of partnership with Ferrari &ndash; one of the most iconic collaborations in motorsport.
Whether you're a motorsports fan, a tech enthusiast, or curious about the future of racing, this episode is for you.
<a href="https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/the-energy-podcast.html?utm_source=youtube&amp;utm_medium=audio&amp;utm_content=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=energypodcast">Learn more about The Energy Podcast</a>&nbsp;
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The Energy Podcast is a Starstruck Media production for Shell.&nbsp;

From lab to F1 track: the science behind Scuderia Ferrari’s sustainable race fuel

The Energy Podcast explores the complex path to decarbonising road transport. From adoption of electric vehicles and biofuels to policy, infrastructure and consumer behaviour, this episode unpacks the challenges of reducing emissions of road travel and what it’ll take to progress further. We are joined by Patrick Carré, a Senior Vice President for Mobility and Convenience at Shell, and Dr. Thomas Becker, Vice President for Government Affairs and Sustainability at BMW Group.

Whether you're a car enthusiast, energy professional or just curious about the future of road transport, this episode offers timely insights into what it really takes to drive change.

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The Energy Podcast explores the complex path to decarbonising road transport. From adoption of electric vehicles and biofuels to policy, infrastructure and consumer behaviour, this episode unpacks the challenges of reducing emissions of road travel and what it&rsquo;ll take to progress further. We are joined by Patrick Carr&eacute;, a Senior Vice President for Mobility and Convenience at Shell, and Dr. Thomas Becker, Vice President for Government Affairs and Sustainability at BMW Group.
Whether you're a car enthusiast, energy professional or just curious about the future of road transport, this episode offers timely insights into what it really takes to drive change.
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The Energy Podcast is a Starstruck Media production for Shell.

The future of road transport: Shell and BMW on emissions, EVs and innovation

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