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All Right, the saying is nobody's perfect. That was not the case, not the case last night in Major League Baseball.

All Right, the saying is nobody's perfect. That was not the case, not the case last night in Major League Baseball.

Oh it was not.

Oh it was not.

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Hitter up on Twitter at Monty Bolanos. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. I think a lot of people want to rain on the parade of the New York Yankees last night. They've not been playing good baseball since here in Judges been out. Yeah, but it was a banner night in front of a select few last night in Oakland. I'm gonna call him Dom Jerman how.

Hitter up on Twitter at Monty Bolanos. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. I think a lot of people want to rain on the parade of the New York Yankees last night. They've not been playing good baseball since here in Judges been out. Yeah, but it was a banner night in front of a select few last night in Oakland. I'm gonna call him Dom Jerman how.

No, no, no, it is He's not Don Druman.

No, no, no, it is He's not Don Druman.

Don't Mingo Hermann, don't Mingo Like Sunday, don't Mingo Hermann do Mingo Herman.

Don't Mingo Hermann, don't Mingo Like Sunday, don't Mingo Hermann do Mingo Herman.

Perfect game last night, just the twenty fourth and major League Baseball history, And it is an interesting topic for this reason. I think it's all over the map on how you look at what happened last night. We've heard people say this guy is just not a good guy. Is suspended by Major League Baseball for violating their domestic abuse policy. Got caught with the sticky stuff earlier this season. I'll tell you what, you get caught with the sticky stuff and then you throw a perfect game after I actually think it tells you a little bit more about thank you.

Perfect game last night, just the twenty fourth and major League Baseball history, And it is an interesting topic for this reason. I think it's all over the map on how you look at what happened last night. We've heard people say this guy is just not a good guy. Is suspended by Major League Baseball for violating their domestic abuse policy. Got caught with the sticky stuff earlier this season. I'll tell you what, you get caught with the sticky stuff and then you throw a perfect game after I actually think it tells you a little bit more about thank you.

I agree, I one pc agree.

I agree, I one pc agree.

It's like, obviously they're going to be even harder on him at this point. They're probably inspecting his hands three times more than everybody else, and.

It's like, obviously they're going to be even harder on him at this point. They're probably inspecting his hands three times more than everybody else, and.

He still pulled it off.

He still pulled it off.

Ninety nine pitches.

Ninety nine pitches.

Ninety nine pitches not a lot.

Ninety nine pitches not a lot.

No, What's I think? Philip umber through ninety six in his ten years ago, so the fewest pitches since that, Like, there have been a lot of perfect games since then. There were three and twenty twelve and there hasn't been one since. But we get to a point in Major League Baseball, Manzi, where it takes a lot for us to be to grab onto, and I think this year it's been a little different. I think Act League Baseball has been great.

No, What's I think? Philip umber through ninety six in his ten years ago, so the fewest pitches since that, Like, there have been a lot of perfect games since then. There were three and twenty twelve and there hasn't been one since. But we get to a point in Major League Baseball, Manzi, where it takes a lot for us to be to grab onto, and I think this year it's been a little different. I think Act League Baseball has been great.

Yes, I agree.

Yes, I agree.

I think there's been a shift for many reasons, the time clock and making the games a lot shorter. Obviously, Ronald the Kunya Junior is stealing one thousand bases already and we're not even halfway through the season. Because the bases are bigger. The shift, all of that I think has brought in.

I think there's been a shift for many reasons, the time clock and making the games a lot shorter. Obviously, Ronald the Kunya Junior is stealing one thousand bases already and we're not even halfway through the season. Because the bases are bigger. The shift, all of that I think has brought in.

Yeah, Ellie de la Cruz, Elie dela Cruz has run recently. I think there's been a lot of good and I think that last night was good. And I find it when you're trying to compare what happened last night, you try to put it into perspective, and that's the toughest part that I think that people have with a perfect game and why I think it is actually more unique and special than maybe anything else that we see in sports. I can't find it's been fifteen hours since the perfect game occurred. I can't find an equivalent in the National Football League of a record of what you would say that that hangs with the reverence of a perfect game in Major League Baseball. I thought to myself, well, we value quarterbacks so much, what about a five hundred yard passing game? Those are those don't happen very often. Usually what happens in a five hundred yard passing game is the team is losing, and that's why you have to throw for five hundred yards. If you actually look at history and you see the five hundred yard passing games, there are more losers than our actual winners. So that's not something you could do. I thought about the NBA.

Yeah, Ellie de la Cruz, Elie dela Cruz has run recently. I think there's been a lot of good and I think that last night was good. And I find it when you're trying to compare what happened last night, you try to put it into perspective, and that's the toughest part that I think that people have with a perfect game and why I think it is actually more unique and special than maybe anything else that we see in sports. I can't find it's been fifteen hours since the perfect game occurred. I can't find an equivalent in the National Football League of a record of what you would say that that hangs with the reverence of a perfect game in Major League Baseball. I thought to myself, well, we value quarterbacks so much, what about a five hundred yard passing game? Those are those don't happen very often. Usually what happens in a five hundred yard passing game is the team is losing, and that's why you have to throw for five hundred yards. If you actually look at history and you see the five hundred yard passing games, there are more losers than our actual winners. So that's not something you could do. I thought about the NBA.

Yeah, triple double, great.

Yeah, triple double, great.

Triple double, you know, but hey, Russell Westbrook, Oscar Robertson, they averaged a triple.

Triple double, you know, but hey, Russell Westbrook, Oscar Robertson, they averaged a triple.

Double nicolae ogicch yes, what about what about?

Double nicolae ogicch yes, what about what about?

What about the quadruple double? Well that is so rare that it's only happened four times where you would have blocks, rebounds, assists, and then either steals or blocks.

What about the quadruple double? Well that is so rare that it's only happened four times where you would have blocks, rebounds, assists, and then either steals or blocks.

Right.

Right.

But the thing that I think that makes this so unique is if you had a quadruple double, you did it yourself.

But the thing that I think that makes this so unique is if you had a quadruple double, you did it yourself.

Right exactly, Yes, it's exactly it.

Right exactly, Yes, it's exactly it.

Was perfect game? Is not that?

Was perfect game? Is not that?

Not at all?

Not at all?

And even though the Mingo raman.

And even though the Mingo raman.

That's really good.

That's really good.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

That's good.

That's good.

Even though the Mingo raman through the perfect game last night, I think it's it's more about the Yankees, and I think history has shown this that this is the guy gets the label as the perfect game, but there are so many things that have to go right that make it more than the person and make the feat even more rare than we actually think it is.

Even though the Mingo raman through the perfect game last night, I think it's it's more about the Yankees, and I think history has shown this that this is the guy gets the label as the perfect game, but there are so many things that have to go right that make it more than the person and make the feat even more rare than we actually think it is.

Totally agree with you.

Totally agree with you.

I also sat there and I was like, what is equivalent to a perfect game?

I also sat there and I was like, what is equivalent to a perfect game?

Even just in life? What could be equivalent to this? And I was with you. I couldn't think of anything.

Even just in life? What could be equivalent to this? And I was with you. I couldn't think of anything.

I thought of golf in your honor, and I was like, is it like a hole in one? No, because you can get a hole in one, but the game continues. It's just for that moment right there. Nothing that doesn't guarantee you've done it. Luck, it's also, yes, a lot of luck.

I thought of golf in your honor, and I was like, is it like a hole in one? No, because you can get a hole in one, but the game continues. It's just for that moment right there. Nothing that doesn't guarantee you've done it. Luck, it's also, yes, a lot of luck.

You are so right.

You are so right.

So many people have to do their job in order for a perfect game to be done.

So many people have to do their job in order for a perfect game to be done.

And as a.

And as a.

Dodgers fan, you know, I go back Jay Stu. Let's go back to Clayton Kershaw's no hitter twenty fourteen, almost almost a perfect game.

Dodgers fan, you know, I go back Jay Stu. Let's go back to Clayton Kershaw's no hitter twenty fourteen, almost almost a perfect game.

Seventh inning.

Seventh inning.

Hanley Ramirez misthrows the ball to first base, and I think it was Dickerson for the Colorado Rockies gets on first, and there goes the perfect game.

Hanley Ramirez misthrows the ball to first base, and I think it was Dickerson for the Colorado Rockies gets on first, and there goes the perfect game.

Were you at this game, Jaystue, by any chance? Were you? I was not at that game.

Were you at this game, Jaystue, by any chance? Were you? I was not at that game.

But isn't that amazing that a perfect game is a team stat as much as it is a pitcher staff.

But isn't that amazing that a perfect game is a team stat as much as it is a pitcher staff.

And I think it's it's not only it's not only that it's the throw. Look at what Josh Donaldson had last night. Hard grounder hit the third probably as all the time in the world, which is actually probably a negative in this in this scenario, I think. And so you're sitting there saying to yourself, all right, I can't watch this throw like it's to me. You try to stay in rhythm. You don't want to short arm it. That's just the final out right. You mentioned Clayton Kerr Sean twenty fourteen. I think what puts last night in the historical perspective is what happened to Armando Galarraga of the Tigers when Jim Joyce blew the call at first base, and that was so magnified because it was for the perfect game. It was a bad call. They called it the twenty eight out perfect game, but it was such a bad call at the time. Joyce's career has been labeled by it. But that is magnified in the fact that it was going to be the final out of the game and they called them safe in the close play.

And I think it's it's not only it's not only that it's the throw. Look at what Josh Donaldson had last night. Hard grounder hit the third probably as all the time in the world, which is actually probably a negative in this in this scenario, I think. And so you're sitting there saying to yourself, all right, I can't watch this throw like it's to me. You try to stay in rhythm. You don't want to short arm it. That's just the final out right. You mentioned Clayton Kerr Sean twenty fourteen. I think what puts last night in the historical perspective is what happened to Armando Galarraga of the Tigers when Jim Joyce blew the call at first base, and that was so magnified because it was for the perfect game. It was a bad call. They called it the twenty eight out perfect game, but it was such a bad call at the time. Joyce's career has been labeled by it. But that is magnified in the fact that it was going to be the final out of the game and they called them safe in the close play.

At first, Oh yeah, no, I would have lost it lost Galarraga's I think as time went on, it probably sours you a little bit more.

At first, Oh yeah, no, I would have lost it lost Galarraga's I think as time went on, it probably sours you a little bit more.

Of course, I remember like the next day he went out and handed the lineup card and Jim Joyce got tiery. But it also lends to the fact of something else that is that is the umpires have to be good. Yes, if there was a pitch in the second inning of last night's game in Oakland, let's say just missed the outer part of the play and was ball four, Yeah, that ruins the perfect game. That changes history. Now at the time, it's the bottom of the second inning, and who cares, Oakland's got to run around and maybe her mom's got two outs and just has to get the next bat or at that point you don't think of it. But there are so many things that fall in line, and it's why we've seen there have been twenty four perfect games, three hundred and nineteen no hitters in Major League Baseball. Those twenty four perfect games are included in that. But when I hear people trying to downplay what we had last night, it's you mentioned this at the start of how baseball is different bigger bases. It's to allow hitting to happen more often. It's not just the home run or bust sort of thing. And I think that's why we got three perfect games in twenty twelve. It was a different game than it was a decade ago. But I just I don't like it when people are trying to pooh pooh something that is so rare, with so many different factors that could play into it.

Of course, I remember like the next day he went out and handed the lineup card and Jim Joyce got tiery. But it also lends to the fact of something else that is that is the umpires have to be good. Yes, if there was a pitch in the second inning of last night's game in Oakland, let's say just missed the outer part of the play and was ball four, Yeah, that ruins the perfect game. That changes history. Now at the time, it's the bottom of the second inning, and who cares, Oakland's got to run around and maybe her mom's got two outs and just has to get the next bat or at that point you don't think of it. But there are so many things that fall in line, and it's why we've seen there have been twenty four perfect games, three hundred and nineteen no hitters in Major League Baseball. Those twenty four perfect games are included in that. But when I hear people trying to downplay what we had last night, it's you mentioned this at the start of how baseball is different bigger bases. It's to allow hitting to happen more often. It's not just the home run or bust sort of thing. And I think that's why we got three perfect games in twenty twelve. It was a different game than it was a decade ago. But I just I don't like it when people are trying to pooh pooh something that is so rare, with so many different factors that could play into it.

I couldn't agree with you more. It's ridiculous. Honestly, we haven't seen this in over ten years. Not easy to do a total team effort it. I didn't even think about the umpires this year. The umpires haven't been the greatest. I literally want Like last week, I got a screen shot from Bo Benson and it was a screenshoto.

I couldn't agree with you more. It's ridiculous. Honestly, we haven't seen this in over ten years. Not easy to do a total team effort it. I didn't even think about the umpires this year. The umpires haven't been the greatest. I literally want Like last week, I got a screen shot from Bo Benson and it was a screenshoto.

Benson sent me a screen shot.

Benson sent me a screen shot.

I don't know what game it was, but it was the calls of balls and strike that he saw in the ESPN app and he sees it and there's one that's on the line for strike, just the same pitch as before, and.

I don't know what game it was, but it was the calls of balls and strike that he saw in the ESPN app and he sees it and there's one that's on the line for strike, just the same pitch as before, and.

They called it a ball, and it's like, here we are.

They called it a ball, and it's like, here we are.

I didn't even think about how the umpires could have really affected it. And also timing, because you're right, if something happens in the second inning, it's not the same as if it happens in the seventh, eighth or ninth inning, where the nerves for everybody's got to be nervous at that point. If you're going into the seventh eighth inning and you are not Domingo head of mind, but you are playing behind him.

I didn't even think about how the umpires could have really affected it. And also timing, because you're right, if something happens in the second inning, it's not the same as if it happens in the seventh, eighth or ninth inning, where the nerves for everybody's got to be nervous at that point. If you're going into the seventh eighth inning and you are not Domingo head of mind, but you are playing behind him.

You must be so nervous because it's also on you.

You must be so nervous because it's also on you.

That's scary.

That's scary.

I don't know I would handle that pressure.

I don't know I would handle that pressure.

Yeah, Anthony Rizzo and the imperfect games, and in situations like this, there's usually a play that stands out where this is where it could have been lost. Yes, Anthony Rizzo made a great play at first, I believe in the fifth inning with that that happened, and then now it starts to build the Yankees. By the way, we're up eleven nothing. Yes, yeah, there's there's you've got the game won there's no reason really, like I could excuse you to not be locked in in that point, because the Yankees over the last couple of weeks, as we mentioned, have not been good at the plate, and so all of a sudden you get this breakout night. You know, like, all right, maybe this is something that we can build on, we can add to we're up ten to nothing. But you have to stay focused because of what is at stake, and it happened last night for the Yankees. This is this is not something to downplay and majorly but for all the great stuff you may may not like, the minga arman and whats going on in the past, I'm sorry. It's just one of the marks that you just can't touch in Major League Baseball. You're put in the history. I'bout bowling, Like maybe bowling was, yeah, perfect game, three hundred, three Hundred's happened all the time at the local you know lanes, the nine hundred series. But again that is an individual doing it, not like your team around you.

Yeah, Anthony Rizzo and the imperfect games, and in situations like this, there's usually a play that stands out where this is where it could have been lost. Yes, Anthony Rizzo made a great play at first, I believe in the fifth inning with that that happened, and then now it starts to build the Yankees. By the way, we're up eleven nothing. Yes, yeah, there's there's you've got the game won there's no reason really, like I could excuse you to not be locked in in that point, because the Yankees over the last couple of weeks, as we mentioned, have not been good at the plate, and so all of a sudden you get this breakout night. You know, like, all right, maybe this is something that we can build on, we can add to we're up ten to nothing. But you have to stay focused because of what is at stake, and it happened last night for the Yankees. This is this is not something to downplay and majorly but for all the great stuff you may may not like, the minga arman and whats going on in the past, I'm sorry. It's just one of the marks that you just can't touch in Major League Baseball. You're put in the history. I'bout bowling, Like maybe bowling was, yeah, perfect game, three hundred, three Hundred's happened all the time at the local you know lanes, the nine hundred series. But again that is an individual doing it, not like your team around you.

Totally I agree.

Totally I agree.

I couldn't believe it was happening when it was happening, and I was like, really, if I wouldn't have put money that it was Domingo Hermann, who would have been the one that was gonna pitch.

I couldn't believe it was happening when it was happening, and I was like, really, if I wouldn't have put money that it was Domingo Hermann, who would have been the one that was gonna pitch.

A perfect game for the Yankees.

A perfect game for the Yankees.

You know, like if it was like pick one Yankee, that's gonna be like Garrett Cole.

You know, like if it was like pick one Yankee, that's gonna be like Garrett Cole.

Maybe I'm at the point of my life where my perfect game would be sleep till ten. Okay, Popeyes for lunch, you do like that, golf in the afternoon, a nice cold mountain dew after mountain do. Yeah, and then and then afterwards sitting on the of course, of course, the wife and baby boy hanging out with us, you know that that hanging out with me, that would be that would be the case. At night, and watching like four hours of Mike Holmes on on Well it's not HDTV anymore or di Y anymore, it's to make Million network. But yeah, watching a home improvement show hosted by Michael that would be my perfect game of sitting back, sleep till ten, popeyes, golf, a little of my calms at night.

Maybe I'm at the point of my life where my perfect game would be sleep till ten. Okay, Popeyes for lunch, you do like that, golf in the afternoon, a nice cold mountain dew after mountain do. Yeah, and then and then afterwards sitting on the of course, of course, the wife and baby boy hanging out with us, you know that that hanging out with me, that would be that would be the case. At night, and watching like four hours of Mike Holmes on on Well it's not HDTV anymore or di Y anymore, it's to make Million network. But yeah, watching a home improvement show hosted by Michael that would be my perfect game of sitting back, sleep till ten, popeyes, golf, a little of my calms at night.

I mean, that's not even sort of my perfect game in any way, shape or form. But after what happened to me this morning night, I think I got the perfect game today. Yesterday I spent six hours online trying to buy tickets for the Oogie Boogie Bash at Disneyland, no joke, six hours, six six hours. I finally get in and it's like sold out. Oh okay, oh you got jokes. This is two days ago. I lied, not yesterday, two days ago. This morning they went on sale to the general public. And I don't know what the boyfriend did, but he got in there immediately when they opened and got tickets.

I mean, that's not even sort of my perfect game in any way, shape or form. But after what happened to me this morning night, I think I got the perfect game today. Yesterday I spent six hours online trying to buy tickets for the Oogie Boogie Bash at Disneyland, no joke, six hours, six six hours. I finally get in and it's like sold out. Oh okay, oh you got jokes. This is two days ago. I lied, not yesterday, two days ago. This morning they went on sale to the general public. And I don't know what the boyfriend did, but he got in there immediately when they opened and got tickets.

So I'm good.

So I'm good.

I think I got the perfect game.

I think I got the perfect game.

Yeah, that's that's also my perfect game, the Ogi Boogie Bash.

Yeah, that's that's also my perfect game, the Ogi Boogie Bash.

I know, after spending seven hours, you have no idea how d it found.

I know, after spending seven hours, you have no idea how d it found.

I thought it was a concert series that it just is over my head. Yeah.

I thought it was a concert series that it just is over my head. Yeah.

The Ugie Boogie Bash is their Halloween event, so it's a special ticketed event. And Disney does all their special ticket events extra extra great because they limit it so all the rides have no lines. And for this Halloween event, there's candy everywhere, like you go trick or treating throughout California Adventure, and all the villains are out, which you never see all of them. It's it's not I mean, it's spooky, but it's not you know what I mean. So you get to ride all the rides, no Way candy all night, and there's special themed food and cocktails, and you know I feel about cocktails.

The Ugie Boogie Bash is their Halloween event, so it's a special ticketed event. And Disney does all their special ticket events extra extra great because they limit it so all the rides have no lines. And for this Halloween event, there's candy everywhere, like you go trick or treating throughout California Adventure, and all the villains are out, which you never see all of them. It's it's not I mean, it's spooky, but it's not you know what I mean. So you get to ride all the rides, no Way candy all night, and there's special themed food and cocktails, and you know I feel about cocktails.

Could your perfect game be ruined if they shut off the cocktails at a certain time? One Honda There, it is the barking, There is the Jim Joyce of Ogi Boogie Ogi Boogie World? Is that what we've got?

Could your perfect game be ruined if they shut off the cocktails at a certain time? One Honda There, it is the barking, There is the Jim Joyce of Ogi Boogie Ogi Boogie World? Is that what we've got?

Biggie Bash, Geez big Bash.

Biggie Bash, Geez big Bash.

He's firing attending, You're not coming back, You're ruin the perfect game.

He's firing attending, You're not coming back, You're ruin the perfect game.

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Yes, it is live at the tyre Ich dot Com studios. I'm Dan Bayer. That's Mansi Belano sitting in for Doug. On this Thursday, Mark Medina talking NBA Free agency trades and so much more coming up in just a matter of minutes, plus the latest from Isaac lohen Kron. We started off the show talking about the Mingo Herman's Perfect Game. Maybe why some are downplaying it is because it didn't happen by Sho Heo Tani. But I still think we're like riding the high of what happened just a couple of nights ago, two nights ago, when he homeered twice, struck out ten. Now, a perfect game hasn't happened in eleven seasons. That hadn't happened in sixty seasons major League Baseball. So maybe there's maybe there's there's there's the show Heo Tani effect on why some people are wanting to downplay the Mingo Rman last night.

Yes, it is live at the tyre Ich dot Com studios. I'm Dan Bayer. That's Mansi Belano sitting in for Doug. On this Thursday, Mark Medina talking NBA Free agency trades and so much more coming up in just a matter of minutes, plus the latest from Isaac lohen Kron. We started off the show talking about the Mingo Herman's Perfect Game. Maybe why some are downplaying it is because it didn't happen by Sho Heo Tani. But I still think we're like riding the high of what happened just a couple of nights ago, two nights ago, when he homeered twice, struck out ten. Now, a perfect game hasn't happened in eleven seasons. That hadn't happened in sixty seasons major League Baseball. So maybe there's maybe there's there's there's the show Heo Tani effect on why some people are wanting to downplay the Mingo Rman last night.

Maybe I guess no, no, no, But that's ridiculous if that's the logic behind that.

Maybe I guess no, no, no, But that's ridiculous if that's the logic behind that.

No.

No.

I do think though, that we are missing what Sho Heo Tani is really doing. Yeah, people are talking about he really accomplishment.

I do think though, that we are missing what Sho Heo Tani is really doing. Yeah, people are talking about he really accomplishment.

That he did that one game.

That he did that one game.

But I don't understand how we are not talking that this guy in front of our eyes is changing baseball as we speak.

But I don't understand how we are not talking that this guy in front of our eyes is changing baseball as we speak.

For years, kids have been growing up playing baseball and they're like, no, you cannot pitch and hit. You can't do that. You got to pick one or the other. Baseball didn't allow pitchers to.

For years, kids have been growing up playing baseball and they're like, no, you cannot pitch and hit. You can't do that. You got to pick one or the other. Baseball didn't allow pitchers to.

Hit in one of the leagues.

Hit in one of the leagues.

Now nobody hits if you're a pitcher, unless you're show Heyo Tani.

Now nobody hits if you're a pitcher, unless you're show Heyo Tani.

He is changing the game before our eyes, I.

He is changing the game before our eyes, I.

Do think, But even if what we saw the other night, like, I don't I don't hear anybody downplaying what show Heyo Tani is doing. I do not hear that. I feel that that. I feel like the bandwagenis is starting to overflow with Otani. Love that now everybody is man show Heyo Tani in it. I think you're not wrong. I'm not disagreeing with you, but it was like when Russell Westbrook averaged the triple double, we were like, man, look at that, look at what Russ is doing, and then all of a sudden that kind of fell off. I don't think that what Otani is doing is falling off. I just think that we're in the process where everybody is now jumping on like they did with Russell Westbrook in that MVP season. We're like, Wow, this is this is amazing because plus he was off the departure of Kevin Durant. I think a lot of people love show he a Tani.

Do think, But even if what we saw the other night, like, I don't I don't hear anybody downplaying what show Heyo Tani is doing. I do not hear that. I feel that that. I feel like the bandwagenis is starting to overflow with Otani. Love that now everybody is man show Heyo Tani in it. I think you're not wrong. I'm not disagreeing with you, but it was like when Russell Westbrook averaged the triple double, we were like, man, look at that, look at what Russ is doing, and then all of a sudden that kind of fell off. I don't think that what Otani is doing is falling off. I just think that we're in the process where everybody is now jumping on like they did with Russell Westbrook in that MVP season. We're like, Wow, this is this is amazing because plus he was off the departure of Kevin Durant. I think a lot of people love show he a Tani.

I think what I'm seeing is I think people love reading that one liner, that one headline, but.

I think what I'm seeing is I think people love reading that one liner, that one headline, but.

It's like, are people actually realizing what he's doing. I don't think so. And it's the fact that he is about to be a free agent.

It's like, are people actually realizing what he's doing. I don't think so. And it's the fact that he is about to be a free agent.

I think that's what is pressing the conversation, pushing the conversation about show, hey Tani that we don't know what he's gonna do after the season, But that's what people are worried about, And I'm like, how are we missing the fact that he is Steph Curry right now?

I think that's what is pressing the conversation, pushing the conversation about show, hey Tani that we don't know what he's gonna do after the season, But that's what people are worried about, And I'm like, how are we missing the fact that he is Steph Curry right now?

He is Patrick Mahomes right now changing the game, and.

He is Patrick Mahomes right now changing the game, and.

Nobody's giving credit to that that we're gonna we're gonna have kids nowadays, literally trying to hit and pitch when before.

Nobody's giving credit to that that we're gonna we're gonna have kids nowadays, literally trying to hit and pitch when before.

That was a no, no, you're not wrong. I even think that you could even go further for what he has done then, you know, even a Patrick Mahomes because it truly is like with Herman last night, just for example, we could go back eleven years and talk about the perfect game. There's the John Robbinson's not here today. And Jason Stewart love to point out how this is never the only thing you ever hear for shohe Atani is this hasn't happened blank since Babe Ruth. It's the only one that you can really really compare to. And it's funny with free agency, just on that quickly with his value at the trade deadline. I think it makes it what he is doing, makes it impossible to trade him, Yeah, because I don't know what you could give up that would be of appropriate value to the Angels. And then if you're that team, are you risking giving up this enormous boatload of talent for a guy you don't know that you can resign next season. The talk of him being traded and now with the Angels in contention, I don't think it's really there, But I think it would have been impossible to do a deal because of just the the rareness of what he is doing.

That was a no, no, you're not wrong. I even think that you could even go further for what he has done then, you know, even a Patrick Mahomes because it truly is like with Herman last night, just for example, we could go back eleven years and talk about the perfect game. There's the John Robbinson's not here today. And Jason Stewart love to point out how this is never the only thing you ever hear for shohe Atani is this hasn't happened blank since Babe Ruth. It's the only one that you can really really compare to. And it's funny with free agency, just on that quickly with his value at the trade deadline. I think it makes it what he is doing, makes it impossible to trade him, Yeah, because I don't know what you could give up that would be of appropriate value to the Angels. And then if you're that team, are you risking giving up this enormous boatload of talent for a guy you don't know that you can resign next season. The talk of him being traded and now with the Angels in contention, I don't think it's really there, But I think it would have been impossible to do a deal because of just the the rareness of what he is doing.

It is so rare, and it's like, Okay, he's has the most home run so far at twenty eight, leading everybody, is top ten in batting average at three oh nine, he's second in RBIs, he's third in strikeouts.

It is so rare, and it's like, Okay, he's has the most home run so far at twenty eight, leading everybody, is top ten in batting average at three oh nine, he's second in RBIs, he's third in strikeouts.

It's just top a thing.

It's just top a thing.

I love how you can taggle between pitching and hitting. Yeah, that's the whole boy.

I love how you can taggle between pitching and hitting. Yeah, that's the whole boy.

It's like back and forth.

It's like back and forth.

So I said, even before the Angel started, I said, I don't think show is gonna go anywhere. I think he was gonna say with the Angels, especially if they have a good season. So I'm with you, I don't I don't see how you can trade because it's like, how do we value him?

So I said, even before the Angel started, I said, I don't think show is gonna go anywhere. I think he was gonna say with the Angels, especially if they have a good season. So I'm with you, I don't I don't see how you can trade because it's like, how do we value him?

How he's he's a one of one, one of one?

How he's he's a one of one, one of one?

Right, Like, all right, you're gonna I'm gonna give you what half of my team, half of my all all seven All Stars for one.

Right, Like, all right, you're gonna I'm gonna give you what half of my team, half of my all all seven All Stars for one.

Here's every prospect, here's every.

Here's every prospect, here's every.

Prospect, because he is so good in so many different ways. And also, you know, personality matters in the clubhouse, and it seems like he's liked a lot. Like nobody's upset that this guy is doing so well. Did you guys went that night he hit the two homers, he wasn't giving high fives to like preserve arm.

Prospect, because he is so good in so many different ways. And also, you know, personality matters in the clubhouse, and it seems like he's liked a lot. Like nobody's upset that this guy is doing so well. Did you guys went that night he hit the two homers, he wasn't giving high fives to like preserve arm.

Did you see that he was half airing his high fives because he was preserving his arm.

Did you see that he was half airing his high fives because he was preserving his arm.

That sends up, Yeah, that's smart, I know. Mark Medina joins the program our Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider, also of This Sporting Tribune at ninety minutes between now and in ninety minutes, James Harden will have to make a decision, Mark Medina on what he will do with his contract. Is this really just a no decision and just a matter of time before James Harden opts out? Or is there any way that he could opt in and then for surely be back with the Sixers next year.

That sends up, Yeah, that's smart, I know. Mark Medina joins the program our Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider, also of This Sporting Tribune at ninety minutes between now and in ninety minutes, James Harden will have to make a decision, Mark Medina on what he will do with his contract. Is this really just a no decision and just a matter of time before James Harden opts out? Or is there any way that he could opt in and then for surely be back with the Sixers next year.

I think there's very much a pathway that he could opt in and just stay for another year, and that gives them a year to you know, benefit from the cost savings, and then have an extension next summer. But if I had a guest, I think he's going to opt out. He and the Houston Rockets will sport with each other but not reunite, and then the Sixers will resign him to a long term deal. I mean, the reality is the Sixers have a lot of affection for him because of Daryl Morey's history with them in Houston and Philadelphia. You know, they already made a coaching change, partly to improve the offensive system around them, but they also don't want to bit against itself because I really only think that the Sixers are the real serious suitors. I mean, the Rockets, they may express interest, but I think when it comes down to signing on the dotted line, like both parties will conclude, Yeah, let's just keep this the way it is.

I think there's very much a pathway that he could opt in and just stay for another year, and that gives them a year to you know, benefit from the cost savings, and then have an extension next summer. But if I had a guest, I think he's going to opt out. He and the Houston Rockets will sport with each other but not reunite, and then the Sixers will resign him to a long term deal. I mean, the reality is the Sixers have a lot of affection for him because of Daryl Morey's history with them in Houston and Philadelphia. You know, they already made a coaching change, partly to improve the offensive system around them, but they also don't want to bit against itself because I really only think that the Sixers are the real serious suitors. I mean, the Rockets, they may express interest, but I think when it comes down to signing on the dotted line, like both parties will conclude, Yeah, let's just keep this the way it is.

Hey, Mark, how are you hey?

Hey, Mark, how are you hey?

Big time?

Big time?

No?

No?

No, no, just snack size time.

No, no, just snack size time.

With this seventy six Ers and James Harden. Who needs more here?

With this seventy six Ers and James Harden. Who needs more here?

Yeah, that's a great question, because I think it's you. It's mostly mutual beneficial. But if I had a guess, I think that James Harden needs Philadelphia more only because I don't think even if Houston knows how great of a player he is, at the end of the day, his est days are behind him. They do have a young core that they want to develop and they want to have flexibility where you know, when you're looking at the Sixers for whatever frustrations that he had the end of the day, they got to the second round of the playoffs, and I think that that is the only team that's going to still kind of move pieces around James Harden to accommodate him. Like, I don't think that there's much of a robust market for him, but you know, this might just be his last leverage play, so to speak, to suggest that there is a robust market for him.

Yeah, that's a great question, because I think it's you. It's mostly mutual beneficial. But if I had a guess, I think that James Harden needs Philadelphia more only because I don't think even if Houston knows how great of a player he is, at the end of the day, his est days are behind him. They do have a young core that they want to develop and they want to have flexibility where you know, when you're looking at the Sixers for whatever frustrations that he had the end of the day, they got to the second round of the playoffs, and I think that that is the only team that's going to still kind of move pieces around James Harden to accommodate him. Like, I don't think that there's much of a robust market for him, but you know, this might just be his last leverage play, so to speak, to suggest that there is a robust market for him.

Mark Medina joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. She's Monsie Blagno's I'm Dan Byer in for Doug. Who needs Kyrie Irving?

Mark Medina joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. She's Monsie Blagno's I'm Dan Byer in for Doug. Who needs Kyrie Irving?

Yeah, that's one of those things that it's almost the same thing like the Dallas Mavericks are better off keeping them. And if they have question marks, then even if Kyrie wants to gauge the market like he might get meetings, but that doesn't mean anything, right. I saw a hilarious meme when it was reported from Crusanes, which is a real report that you know, he's going to meet with the Phoenix Suns, and there was this meme that cropped up of someone you know, walking around a barbecue trying to insert himself into every conversation and every group was having none of it. That seems to be what Kyrie Irving's faces. But I think in the Dallas Mavericks case, look, they don't have a lot of options, and in fairness to Kyrie, they're the reason why they didn't make the planned tournament. Didn't necessarily have to do with him. He was a positive locker room presence, you know, despite what happened in Brooklyn and Boston. But they just didn't have a lot of depth around him. And so when you look at this summer, I don't know what the legitimate pathways are for the Mavericks to really improve the roster because they don't have a lot of players that other teams want, and so with that, it seems like they have no other choice but to keep Kyrie in. I think really the question now moving forward will be, you know, what does that mean as far as is the length and size of the deal all right?

Yeah, that's one of those things that it's almost the same thing like the Dallas Mavericks are better off keeping them. And if they have question marks, then even if Kyrie wants to gauge the market like he might get meetings, but that doesn't mean anything, right. I saw a hilarious meme when it was reported from Crusanes, which is a real report that you know, he's going to meet with the Phoenix Suns, and there was this meme that cropped up of someone you know, walking around a barbecue trying to insert himself into every conversation and every group was having none of it. That seems to be what Kyrie Irving's faces. But I think in the Dallas Mavericks case, look, they don't have a lot of options, and in fairness to Kyrie, they're the reason why they didn't make the planned tournament. Didn't necessarily have to do with him. He was a positive locker room presence, you know, despite what happened in Brooklyn and Boston. But they just didn't have a lot of depth around him. And so when you look at this summer, I don't know what the legitimate pathways are for the Mavericks to really improve the roster because they don't have a lot of players that other teams want, and so with that, it seems like they have no other choice but to keep Kyrie in. I think really the question now moving forward will be, you know, what does that mean as far as is the length and size of the deal all right?

So they might be stuck with Kyrie, the Clippers might be stuck with Kawhi, Leonard and Paul George.

So they might be stuck with Kyrie, the Clippers might be stuck with Kawhi, Leonard and Paul George.

But that's not what I want to know about my Clippers.

But that's not what I want to know about my Clippers.

I got to know Tyleru by the end of the season, seemed frustrated, seemed not fully there.

I got to know Tyleru by the end of the season, seemed frustrated, seemed not fully there.

What does thay Ty's future look like with the Clippers.

What does thay Ty's future look like with the Clippers.

There's no extension yet on the table that I've heard of.

There's no extension yet on the table that I've heard of.

What does it look like?

What does it look like?

Yeah, I think what it looks like is this is the final year of his potential time with the Clippers, not because Tylu did anything wrong, but he might just be over the whole idea that you never know when you're going to get your star players available. And I think what was telling Monster when I, you know, would ask him last season as well as other reporters about handling kind of the fluid nature of all the different lineup challenges because of Kawhi and Paul George being out of the lineup. He said that in some respects, the season beforehand was a lot easier to manage because even though it was a huge loss that Kawhi Leonard was out for the season while he's recovering for Macyl surgery, he knew, at least on a game to game basis, yeah, I'm not going to have my star player every night. And here it just felt like he was just getting over all the injuries and the load managements, et cetera. And so while certainly things can change of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George get healthier, and you know, obviously if the Clippers have more success than they've had, but I also want to be surprised that, you know, Tie more than the Clippers feel like, you know what, I've had enough of this and I'll see what other options are out there. So it should be an interesting season, to say the leave.

Yeah, I think what it looks like is this is the final year of his potential time with the Clippers, not because Tylu did anything wrong, but he might just be over the whole idea that you never know when you're going to get your star players available. And I think what was telling Monster when I, you know, would ask him last season as well as other reporters about handling kind of the fluid nature of all the different lineup challenges because of Kawhi and Paul George being out of the lineup. He said that in some respects, the season beforehand was a lot easier to manage because even though it was a huge loss that Kawhi Leonard was out for the season while he's recovering for Macyl surgery, he knew, at least on a game to game basis, yeah, I'm not going to have my star player every night. And here it just felt like he was just getting over all the injuries and the load managements, et cetera. And so while certainly things can change of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George get healthier, and you know, obviously if the Clippers have more success than they've had, but I also want to be surprised that, you know, Tie more than the Clippers feel like, you know what, I've had enough of this and I'll see what other options are out there. So it should be an interesting season, to say the leave.

His name was mentioned in vacancies this offseason, like there were coaches that were not employed, but Tyler's name was popping up in spots of oh, you could possibly see TYLERU here, you could possibly see TYLERU there, all while the fact he was still the head coach in LA Mark Medina joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. I feel I am now required to ask a Damian Lillard question. I know that's the rule in NBA off season twenty twenty three.

His name was mentioned in vacancies this offseason, like there were coaches that were not employed, but Tyler's name was popping up in spots of oh, you could possibly see TYLERU here, you could possibly see TYLERU there, all while the fact he was still the head coach in LA Mark Medina joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. I feel I am now required to ask a Damian Lillard question. I know that's the rule in NBA off season twenty twenty three.

Yeah, sure, plays the obligatory Lebron James question. Right, we can do both.

Yeah, sure, plays the obligatory Lebron James question. Right, we can do both.

Oh yeah, don't worry. Yeah, Lebron will figure out his way in this somehow, some way. But with Damian Lillard, does a deal happen after summer league? How is this playing out after the meeting that occurred in Portland earlier this week? It sounded like Joe Cronin had a positive take on their meeting, But how do things shake out after that meeting? Now?

Oh yeah, don't worry. Yeah, Lebron will figure out his way in this somehow, some way. But with Damian Lillard, does a deal happen after summer league? How is this playing out after the meeting that occurred in Portland earlier this week? It sounded like Joe Cronin had a positive take on their meeting, But how do things shake out after that meeting? Now?

Yeah, well, look under the guys that this is all fluid. If I had a guess, I think that the writings on the wall that the Blazers will eventually trade Damian Lillard. I don't know if that means beginning a free agency in the middle of summer league, or heaven forbid, lean into training camp where we have a repeat of the un certain domino of a star flyer once again in the off season. But I know Joe Cronin said what he said, and it's very much in line with what He's told me and others the last year that they just don't have the heart to do a drastic teardown, and they know how special Damian Lillard is. But if I'm reading between the lines here, it's really much felt like it was this thing where the Blazers are going to make efforts to try to make deals outside of Damian Lillard to upgrade the roster during the off season. But I don't see the pathways we're doing that, and so once that fails to happen, then Damien might feel more comfortable with finally asking directly, you know what, this isn't going to work. We got to end this, and then that's when the Blazers start canvasing the landscape to see what they get for them. I don't think that the Blazers are ever going to trade Damian Lillard until he outwardly asked them I want out, and if not, I'm going to continue to shake trees even louder. But it just seems like it's headed down that path because realistically, I don't see how the Blazers fundamentally improve their team unless they make a move and look that then I like Dude Henderson. I like Anthony Simons. I like, if they retain Jeremy Grant. They're all great players. But the crux of it is that's just the recipe for them to be a nice playoff team that could make some noise. But that's what the Blazers' mantra has been before Damian Lillard got hurt, and that's not what they're chasing. They're chasing let's be in the championship contention mix, and frankly, that's just not enough to compete against teams like the Nuggets, the Suns, and I guess you include the Lakers because Lebron James is still there, and then everyone else in the East. But as you guys know, it's the NBA and things can always take erratic turns unexpectedly.

Yeah, well, look under the guys that this is all fluid. If I had a guess, I think that the writings on the wall that the Blazers will eventually trade Damian Lillard. I don't know if that means beginning a free agency in the middle of summer league, or heaven forbid, lean into training camp where we have a repeat of the un certain domino of a star flyer once again in the off season. But I know Joe Cronin said what he said, and it's very much in line with what He's told me and others the last year that they just don't have the heart to do a drastic teardown, and they know how special Damian Lillard is. But if I'm reading between the lines here, it's really much felt like it was this thing where the Blazers are going to make efforts to try to make deals outside of Damian Lillard to upgrade the roster during the off season. But I don't see the pathways we're doing that, and so once that fails to happen, then Damien might feel more comfortable with finally asking directly, you know what, this isn't going to work. We got to end this, and then that's when the Blazers start canvasing the landscape to see what they get for them. I don't think that the Blazers are ever going to trade Damian Lillard until he outwardly asked them I want out, and if not, I'm going to continue to shake trees even louder. But it just seems like it's headed down that path because realistically, I don't see how the Blazers fundamentally improve their team unless they make a move and look that then I like Dude Henderson. I like Anthony Simons. I like, if they retain Jeremy Grant. They're all great players. But the crux of it is that's just the recipe for them to be a nice playoff team that could make some noise. But that's what the Blazers' mantra has been before Damian Lillard got hurt, and that's not what they're chasing. They're chasing let's be in the championship contention mix, and frankly, that's just not enough to compete against teams like the Nuggets, the Suns, and I guess you include the Lakers because Lebron James is still there, and then everyone else in the East. But as you guys know, it's the NBA and things can always take erratic turns unexpectedly.

To the dog Gott Leave show, I am Anti Blanas in with Dan Bayer and we're talking to Mark Medina. Mark, I do have a question about a rookie, and it is not Victor Wembanyama, not when.

To the dog Gott Leave show, I am Anti Blanas in with Dan Bayer and we're talking to Mark Medina. Mark, I do have a question about a rookie, and it is not Victor Wembanyama, not when.

Wow, it is not.

Wow, it is not.

I want to know how rookie Chet Holmgren is doing.

I want to know how rookie Chet Holmgren is doing.

It's an interesting thing because the Thunder are very information secretive about not only all their players, but about rehab progress. But I think ever since that he had his season ended injury last year, the expectation was he would be ready to go the following training camp. So you know, I've got no inndication to suggest otherwise, but I want to expect him to, you know, be trotted out in summer league or things like that.

It's an interesting thing because the Thunder are very information secretive about not only all their players, but about rehab progress. But I think ever since that he had his season ended injury last year, the expectation was he would be ready to go the following training camp. So you know, I've got no inndication to suggest otherwise, but I want to expect him to, you know, be trotted out in summer league or things like that.

Get him on Twitter at Mark g underscore Medina, read him on the Sporting Tribune, and hear them right here as us Fox Sports Radio, NBA in center. Mark, have a great weekend, have a great fourth. We'll doc you man. Thanks right, Thanks Mark. She's Monze Belano. So I'm Dan Bayer. Do you think he was saying like you're the best, like as a duo or do you think he was just talking to you?

Get him on Twitter at Mark g underscore Medina, read him on the Sporting Tribune, and hear them right here as us Fox Sports Radio, NBA in center. Mark, have a great weekend, have a great fourth. We'll doc you man. Thanks right, Thanks Mark. She's Monze Belano. So I'm Dan Bayer. Do you think he was saying like you're the best, like as a duo or do you think he was just talking to you?

I am gonna say that it was a due.

I am gonna say that it was a due.

There you go. All right, We've already got a hashtag of on Airbnb. Yeah, so this this thing is taking off. We are entered Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. It took you a while to say, both of us, but come on.

There you go. All right, We've already got a hashtag of on Airbnb. Yeah, so this this thing is taking off. We are entered Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. It took you a while to say, both of us, but come on.

You know, I yeah.

You know, I yeah.

Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Isaac going kron is here. What's going on? Isaac?

Isaac going kron is here. What's going on? Isaac?

Somebody loved to leave the door open or a window open around here.

Somebody loved to leave the door open or a window open around here.

I feel a draft.

I feel a draft.

Actually it wasn't any of those.

Actually it wasn't any of those.

The thermostat was up on high inside joker right here, all right, the game is I feel a draft. In today's topic, we're going to be drafting the best duos in sports. It's going to be a snake format, so to go Jason, Monsey, Ryan, Dan, myself and then back around against so two rounds, a total of ten picks the topic best duos in sports? For example, one of the best duos in sports Jason Stewart and sarcasm. That's an example, aren't Jason? Speaking of you, You've got.

The thermostat was up on high inside joker right here, all right, the game is I feel a draft. In today's topic, we're going to be drafting the best duos in sports. It's going to be a snake format, so to go Jason, Monsey, Ryan, Dan, myself and then back around against so two rounds, a total of ten picks the topic best duos in sports? For example, one of the best duos in sports Jason Stewart and sarcasm. That's an example, aren't Jason? Speaking of you, You've got.

The first pick speaking of wasn't the wasn't thermostape geared woe if it was colder?

The first pick speaking of wasn't the wasn't thermostape geared woe if it was colder?

Because you said, Hi, that's the that's the joke.

Because you said, Hi, that's the that's the joke.

I'll clean that.

I'll clean that.

I'll clean it.

I'll clean it.

Best sports duo of all time. Jordan and Pippen are the best duo of all time. When you when you first presented this to me, I thought those two guys, but not because they were six for six in World Championships.

Best sports duo of all time. Jordan and Pippen are the best duo of all time. When you when you first presented this to me, I thought those two guys, but not because they were six for six in World Championships.

Necessarily.

Necessarily.

I like the fact that Scottie Pippens's ex wife is having sex with Michael Jordan's son. I mean that that puts a little extra on this and the fact that they hate each other. Yeah, it's amazing.

I like the fact that Scottie Pippens's ex wife is having sex with Michael Jordan's son. I mean that that puts a little extra on this and the fact that they hate each other. Yeah, it's amazing.

So you can make the argument that Pippin's ex wife and Jordan's son are one of the best roues.

So you can make the argument that Pippin's ex wife and Jordan's son are one of the best roues.

I was gonna ask, is it Michael Jordan or is it the son, right, Scotty or Larsa?

I was gonna ask, is it Michael Jordan or is it the son, right, Scotty or Larsa?

All right, Monsike, hard to top that one, by the way.

All right, Monsike, hard to top that one, by the way.

Oh yeah, he took my Marcus and Larsa. But fine, fine, fine, how about my two favorites growing up? I was so sad when they broke up, Derrick Rovinski and Steve.

Oh yeah, he took my Marcus and Larsa. But fine, fine, fine, how about my two favorites growing up? I was so sad when they broke up, Derrick Rovinski and Steve.

Nash a little Mavericks.

Nash a little Mavericks.

Wow second all time for me.

Wow second all time for me.

That was like one of my first heartbreaks.

That was like one of my first heartbreaks.

When Steve Nash was traded, I was like, no, why, why?

When Steve Nash was traded, I was like, no, why, why?

Man?

Man?

I think he could have got done the second round. Monty. I'm gonna be honest, because what.

I think he could have got done the second round. Monty. I'm gonna be honest, because what.

If you would have taken it? Okay, I gotta think ahead of the game.

If you would have taken it? Okay, I gotta think ahead of the game.

Okay, Okay, I got kendricks on the hot one. He has an issue with you having two white people number overall.

Okay, Okay, I got kendricks on the hot one. He has an issue with you having two white people number overall.

Just in general.

Just in general.

Yeah, Kendrick Perkins is gonna have an issue with every one of these.

Yeah, Kendrick Perkins is gonna have an issue with every one of these.

All right.

All right.

Next selection goes to Ryan.

Next selection goes to Ryan.

Ryan Mike up, Yes, how about but sorry about that? Yeah, that's all right. First day anyway. Uh, I'm gonna go with Bill Belichick and cheating. Oh god, I thought it's gonna go different.

Ryan Mike up, Yes, how about but sorry about that? Yeah, that's all right. First day anyway. Uh, I'm gonna go with Bill Belichick and cheating. Oh god, I thought it's gonna go different.

Yeah, different from the top rope. Well, i'll tell you what.

Yeah, different from the top rope. Well, i'll tell you what.

We've had, an unpredictable, an unpredictable top three. Dan Byer at number.

We've had, an unpredictable, an unpredictable top three. Dan Byer at number.

Four, has anyone taken oj and Al Cowlings because I'm going to at number four.

Four, has anyone taken oj and Al Cowlings because I'm going to at number four.

Yes, this is this is like the best game we ever had. It's like game time, the uncensored version. All right, Well, my due, I have the next two picks, so I got him back to back and this is very sanitized the top four picks we got so far. But I'm actually going to have my two picks covered in one SoundBite. Listen to my duos times too.

Yes, this is this is like the best game we ever had. It's like game time, the uncensored version. All right, Well, my due, I have the next two picks, so I got him back to back and this is very sanitized the top four picks we got so far. But I'm actually going to have my two picks covered in one SoundBite. Listen to my duos times too.

I'll get back to throw it.

I'll get back to throw it.

You're right by, Jerry, Rye can look out for this.

You're right by, Jerry, Rye can look out for this.

Or touchdown from sixty one yard. I give what youre doing. I not come it. Pro Bye, Joe Montana.

Or touchdown from sixty one yard. I give what youre doing. I not come it. Pro Bye, Joe Montana.

If you told me today that Joe Montana could throw it out that far, I'm decided.

If you told me today that Joe Montana could throw it out that far, I'm decided.

I know what he's doing.

I know what he's doing.

No way.

No way.

So Dan, my duos are not only is it Montana and Rice, it is Summer all in mad very good.

So Dan, my duos are not only is it Montana and Rice, it is Summer all in mad very good.

I had Summer on Madden fifth, Montana to Rice sixth, and now it's back to you with the seventh.

I had Summer on Madden fifth, Montana to Rice sixth, and now it's back to you with the seventh.

Pick, joamranthon Guns No, I'm kidding, No, No, that's great. Oh listen, I have to just to try to keep this somewhat on the rails. Stock Malone, Okay, yeah, we'll go. Yeah, we'll go stocked in in Malone.

Pick, joamranthon Guns No, I'm kidding, No, No, that's great. Oh listen, I have to just to try to keep this somewhat on the rails. Stock Malone, Okay, yeah, we'll go. Yeah, we'll go stocked in in Malone.

I like your other one better, all right, Ryan Smith, back to you at number eight.

I like your other one better, all right, Ryan Smith, back to you at number eight.

I'll go Lebron James and Dwayne Wade.

I'll go Lebron James and Dwayne Wade.

Okay, and and Monci. As we go back to you for the number nine pick.

Okay, and and Monci. As we go back to you for the number nine pick.

I will note that somehow, some way, Dirk Novitsky and Steve Nash probably would have still been on the board by now given the other selections.

I will note that somehow, some way, Dirk Novitsky and Steve Nash probably would have still been on the board by now given the other selections.

Back you everyone else's answers.

Back you everyone else's answers.

I think mine at least stayed within the game. Okay, okay, okay, let's go with how about Tommy Lasorda and the Philly Fanatics?

I think mine at least stayed within the game. Okay, okay, okay, let's go with how about Tommy Lasorda and the Philly Fanatics?

Oh, I like it. I like it, and they only performed together once, but it was worth it. If you've seen that YouTube.

Oh, I like it. I like it, and they only performed together once, but it was worth it. If you've seen that YouTube.

I thought she was gonna say Lasagna.

I thought she was gonna say Lasagna.

I honestly.

I honestly.

I thought that was going to be the first.

I thought that was going to be the first.

And to wrap it up, to put a bow on this baby, Jason Stewart, I think this is going to be over the heads of at least one person in the studio.

And to wrap it up, to put a bow on this baby, Jason Stewart, I think this is going to be over the heads of at least one person in the studio.

But I'm going to say Rosie Ruiz and the Subway System the best duo in the history of sports?

But I'm going to say Rosie Ruiz and the Subway System the best duo in the history of sports?

All right, are you gonna get that one? Isaac?

All right, are you gonna get that one? Isaac?

The nineteen eighty Boston Marathon.

The nineteen eighty Boston Marathon.

She take the subway to the finish line.

She take the subway to the finish line.

I thought there was that or a cab.

I thought there was that or a cab.

It may have been a cab. Yeah, actually I think it was a I think it wasn't. I know that it wasn't a uber.

It may have been a cab. Yeah, actually I think it was a I think it wasn't. I know that it wasn't a uber.

That's like your favorite, like top five sports moment. It really is.

That's like your favorite, like top five sports moment. It really is.

It's so ridiculous. I want to see an entire three hour documentary on Do you know about this?

It's so ridiculous. I want to see an entire three hour documentary on Do you know about this?

Briefly?

Briefly?

I know what you're talking about, but I don't know the details.

I know what you're talking about, but I don't know the details.

Did you give the cliff Notes version?

Did you give the cliff Notes version?

Yeah? A woman decided to not run the best in marathon. She ran like the first half mile, in the last half mile and just took a subway or a cab for most of it.

Yeah? A woman decided to not run the best in marathon. She ran like the first half mile, in the last half mile and just took a subway or a cab for most of it.

And then she comes out ahead of all the other elite runners and wins the race. They literally put the laurels on her head. The Network TV people are interviewing her saying, well, we missed you and at all our checkpoints, but hey, congratulations you won. Her name was Rosie Ruiz and they finally long a time later, found out that the jig was up. Somebody had to try that again in a marathon these days, and that is an all time edition of game Time.

And then she comes out ahead of all the other elite runners and wins the race. They literally put the laurels on her head. The Network TV people are interviewing her saying, well, we missed you and at all our checkpoints, but hey, congratulations you won. Her name was Rosie Ruiz and they finally long a time later, found out that the jig was up. Somebody had to try that again in a marathon these days, and that is an all time edition of game Time.

Game This is game Time on the Dug Gottlieb Show. At one point they changed the rod at the la Marathon and it finished about three blocks from where I lived in Santa Monica. I could have done the same thing, but I actually would have been sweaty just for running the three blocks, so it probably wouldn't have been as much of a giveaway if she wasn't sweating at all.

Game This is game Time on the Dug Gottlieb Show. At one point they changed the rod at the la Marathon and it finished about three blocks from where I lived in Santa Monica. I could have done the same thing, but I actually would have been sweaty just for running the three blocks, so it probably wouldn't have been as much of a giveaway if she wasn't sweating at all.