In the new episode of The Director’s Chair, the Lowy Institute’s Executive Director Michael Fullilove is joined by US Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell.

They discuss Kurt Campbell’s new role in the State Department, American policy towards China, the relationship between Moscow and Beijing, Xi Jinping’s recent visit to France, Dr Campbell’s aims for the AUKUS pact, and the things that make him optimistic when he looks at the world today.

The Director’s Chair is a podcast by the Lowy Institute: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/

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Host: Michael Fullilove 
Producers: Josh Goding and Andrew Griffits 
Research: David Vallance