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North Carolina shouldn't have been in, they got in, and a lot of conspiracy controversy with North Carolina in. They face San Diego State coming up tonight. North Carolina favored by four and a half. They must win situation. By the way, according to DraftKings odds, to win March Madness, you basically have four teams, four schools. It's Duke, Florida, Auburn, Houston. Then after that it's a big, big jump to Alabama. It's a four team race. Now there will probably be another double digit seed that makes it to the Elite eight, maybe to the Final four. These things happen because of the transfer portal. You're getting schools that have a good team or they can get a player coming in and oh it takes is one or two players, unless you're Rutgers and you can have a great season. The fact that Rutgers is going to have two of the first five players drafted this year and didn't make the tournament is remarkable. But you're finding out that you have a lot of these teams that have stockpiled older players, junior seniors, and those teams are always dangerous come tournament time.

North Carolina shouldn't have been in, they got in, and a lot of conspiracy controversy with North Carolina in. They face San Diego State coming up tonight. North Carolina favored by four and a half. They must win situation. By the way, according to DraftKings odds, to win March Madness, you basically have four teams, four schools. It's Duke, Florida, Auburn, Houston. Then after that it's a big, big jump to Alabama. It's a four team race. Now there will probably be another double digit seed that makes it to the Elite eight, maybe to the Final four. These things happen because of the transfer portal. You're getting schools that have a good team or they can get a player coming in and oh it takes is one or two players, unless you're Rutgers and you can have a great season. The fact that Rutgers is going to have two of the first five players drafted this year and didn't make the tournament is remarkable. But you're finding out that you have a lot of these teams that have stockpiled older players, junior seniors, and those teams are always dangerous come tournament time.

Yes, do you consider that what you just said about Rutgers when you're drafting a player.

Yes, do you consider that what you just said about Rutgers when you're drafting a player.

I would I did that with Ben Simmons.

I would I did that with Ben Simmons.

Now.

Now.

I thought Ben Simmons was shooting with the wrong hand when I first watched him. I went, I think he's right handed? Still possible, Yes, it is. Yes. I saw where Ben Simmons wants to play for Australia in the Olympics. I think Kyrie Irving would like to play for Australia in the Olympics. Also saw where Ben Simmons is. Is he selling his house in Brooklyn? How many houses does he have? Because he's should open up an NBA Airbnb and just hey, if you go to that team, you can have my house here. If you're in Philadelphia, if you're in Brooklyn, if you're in la I got a house for you, yes, Paul.

I thought Ben Simmons was shooting with the wrong hand when I first watched him. I went, I think he's right handed? Still possible, Yes, it is. Yes. I saw where Ben Simmons wants to play for Australia in the Olympics. I think Kyrie Irving would like to play for Australia in the Olympics. Also saw where Ben Simmons is. Is he selling his house in Brooklyn? How many houses does he have? Because he's should open up an NBA Airbnb and just hey, if you go to that team, you can have my house here. If you're in Philadelphia, if you're in Brooklyn, if you're in la I got a house for you, yes, Paul.

Yeah, Ben Simmons condo in the area called Dumbo in Brooklyn. Seventeen million dollars sixteen nine nine nine Damm. It looks fantastic. It's six bedrooms.

Yeah, Ben Simmons condo in the area called Dumbo in Brooklyn. Seventeen million dollars sixteen nine nine nine Damm. It looks fantastic. It's six bedrooms.

Oh, it looks fantastic. You're almost seventeen million. Well, well that's nice.

Oh, it looks fantastic. You're almost seventeen million. Well, well that's nice.

It's not quite as big as you'd think for seventeen million.

It's not quite as big as you'd think for seventeen million.

But it's very nice, Okay, but Ben Simmons couldn't get LSU to the tournament. Markel Folds. That was another one we talked about that where they won what nine games? If you have the number one pick in the draft, you win nine games. I got I got to put a question mark by that, and it turned out to be true. You know. I mean, there's some things that happened to Markel Folts. He forgot how to shoot, and you know, did revitalize his career a little bit there. That was where you know, I came in. I don't know the timeframe of it, but I talked to a source and he thought, this is when Philadelphia and Boston were making the trade. And he says, Philly will take the wrong guy. He goes, the best player in the draft is Jason Tatum, and he said Philadelphia is going to screw this up. And I remember coming in and saying, the best guy in the draft is Jason Tatum. And but you know, you're getting an undersized guard for a team that won what eight or nine games in college and then you're going to take him, Yes, Martin, but.

But it's very nice, Okay, but Ben Simmons couldn't get LSU to the tournament. Markel Folds. That was another one we talked about that where they won what nine games? If you have the number one pick in the draft, you win nine games. I got I got to put a question mark by that, and it turned out to be true. You know. I mean, there's some things that happened to Markel Folts. He forgot how to shoot, and you know, did revitalize his career a little bit there. That was where you know, I came in. I don't know the timeframe of it, but I talked to a source and he thought, this is when Philadelphia and Boston were making the trade. And he says, Philly will take the wrong guy. He goes, the best player in the draft is Jason Tatum, and he said Philadelphia is going to screw this up. And I remember coming in and saying, the best guy in the draft is Jason Tatum. And but you know, you're getting an undersized guard for a team that won what eight or nine games in college and then you're going to take him, Yes, Martin, but.

I think the big difference is on LSU. Besides Ben Simmons, you couldn't name another NBA player Markel Folt's the same thing. You have two not like first round picks, two top five maybe top ten picks. The Rutgers coach is probably on the hot seat.

I think the big difference is on LSU. Besides Ben Simmons, you couldn't name another NBA player Markel Folt's the same thing. You have two not like first round picks, two top five maybe top ten picks. The Rutgers coach is probably on the hot seat.

Well, Rutgers doesn't normally get these players, so nil, somebody spent a lot of money on these two players. Ron Harper's son, and who's at Ace Bailey? Bailey you know, I watched him play and he'll give you a highlight. I don't know if he gives you a full game, but man, does he give you highlights. And then Dylan Harper, Ron Harper's son, he would be dropping dime. I mean you would watch and you go, damn, these guys are really good. Were there teammates that bad that you couldn't make up for, you know, the other three in the starting lineup?

Well, Rutgers doesn't normally get these players, so nil, somebody spent a lot of money on these two players. Ron Harper's son, and who's at Ace Bailey? Bailey you know, I watched him play and he'll give you a highlight. I don't know if he gives you a full game, but man, does he give you highlights. And then Dylan Harper, Ron Harper's son, he would be dropping dime. I mean you would watch and you go, damn, these guys are really good. Were there teammates that bad that you couldn't make up for, you know, the other three in the starting lineup?

Yeah, it could be a situation too where I'm speculating. I have no idea. I haven't really paid attention. But so, who's the guy. Can't both be the star? Ace Bailey's his star Aast Bailey is for sure. However, Dylan Harper probably kind of like I don't know, man, I'm pretty kind of much the guy in my whole life too, So which one of us?

Yeah, it could be a situation too where I'm speculating. I have no idea. I haven't really paid attention. But so, who's the guy. Can't both be the star? Ace Bailey's his star Aast Bailey is for sure. However, Dylan Harper probably kind of like I don't know, man, I'm pretty kind of much the guy in my whole life too, So which one of us?

Is it?

Is it?

Two of the top five guys and there didn't make the NCAA tournament. All right? Some phone calls here eight seven to seven three DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, Thank you. Bill Kuer, Hall of Fame coach will join us coming up, get his thoughts on what his Steelers are doing at the quarterbacking position. We have no word, no update on Aaron Rodgers' situation, which also affects Russell Wilson's situation, whether it's the Giants, the Steelers probably not having him back. But if Aaron Rodgers doesn't go to Minnesota, does he go to Pittsburgh? Does he go to the Giants? Russell Wilson is probably just sitting at home going Any news on Aaron Rodgers Nope, nothing. Poll question for hour two is going to be what Seaton let me.

Two of the top five guys and there didn't make the NCAA tournament. All right? Some phone calls here eight seven to seven three DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, Thank you. Bill Kuer, Hall of Fame coach will join us coming up, get his thoughts on what his Steelers are doing at the quarterbacking position. We have no word, no update on Aaron Rodgers' situation, which also affects Russell Wilson's situation, whether it's the Giants, the Steelers probably not having him back. But if Aaron Rodgers doesn't go to Minnesota, does he go to Pittsburgh? Does he go to the Giants? Russell Wilson is probably just sitting at home going Any news on Aaron Rodgers Nope, nothing. Poll question for hour two is going to be what Seaton let me.

See, let me update you on the first couple that we got there. Right now, Shadur Sander's still holding on to a lead. Who gets drafted first, Shador or Jackson Dart that's still at about sixty five percent.

See, let me update you on the first couple that we got there. Right now, Shadur Sander's still holding on to a lead. Who gets drafted first, Shador or Jackson Dart that's still at about sixty five percent.

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The reason why we brought this up is mel kiper draft expert, just had his latest mock draft and he has Jackson Dart going tenth overall to the New Orleans Saints. That's where the wave of compliments. I guess with Jackson Dart it is Jackson Dart day. It just became Jackson Dark Day. Yes, what else do you have seton?

The reason why we brought this up is mel kiper draft expert, just had his latest mock draft and he has Jackson Dart going tenth overall to the New Orleans Saints. That's where the wave of compliments. I guess with Jackson Dart it is Jackson Dart day. It just became Jackson Dark Day. Yes, what else do you have seton?

And then we also have a best ever quarterback name, obviously Jackson Dark, Joe Montana, Johnny Utah, Cult McCoy right now, Johnny Utah running away with this one.

And then we also have a best ever quarterback name, obviously Jackson Dark, Joe Montana, Johnny Utah, Cult McCoy right now, Johnny Utah running away with this one.

Now second place.

Now second place.

It's a tie, but this person has a slight edge by aboutzero point three percent. That would be Cult McCoy, barely ahead of Joe Montana.

It's a tie, but this person has a slight edge by aboutzero point three percent. That would be Cult McCoy, barely ahead of Joe Montana.

Reggie in Mississippi, Hi, Reggie, what's on your mind today?

Reggie in Mississippi, Hi, Reggie, what's on your mind today?

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Hi?

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About hey?

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Quarterback names? One that sticks to me. I used to like Billy Joe Tolliver. Could be a lot of Billy Joel's around here, but my absolute favorite is former Oklahoma quarterback Joel Booty.

Quarterback names? One that sticks to me. I used to like Billy Joe Tolliver. Could be a lot of Billy Joel's around here, but my absolute favorite is former Oklahoma quarterback Joel Booty.

You know, you know what, when you brought up Billie Joe Tolliver, the first name I thought of was General Booty, just because I mean, how does that go over? Where? You say to your wife and I got it. If it's a boy, I got a name, what is it? Because I think, isn't there a Josh Booty? Like you get to General Booty. I mean that's a big jump. There's certain times when you're in the delivery room and you're talking about names and then all of a sudden you just say what about And then you know your wife goes, okay, let's get out of here. Like we named my daughter because we thought that she was going to be a boy. My wife swore that she was going to be a boy. We didn't have a girl's name. You got to give her a name to get out of the the hospital gave her a name. Six months later she goes, that's she that's not who she She's not an Emily. I said, okay, what's that mean? Well, you got to go down to the courthouse. We're going to change your name to Georgia. Okay. And then that was it. But given what she went through, whatever she said went, let's just get out of the hospital here.

You know, you know what, when you brought up Billie Joe Tolliver, the first name I thought of was General Booty, just because I mean, how does that go over? Where? You say to your wife and I got it. If it's a boy, I got a name, what is it? Because I think, isn't there a Josh Booty? Like you get to General Booty. I mean that's a big jump. There's certain times when you're in the delivery room and you're talking about names and then all of a sudden you just say what about And then you know your wife goes, okay, let's get out of here. Like we named my daughter because we thought that she was going to be a boy. My wife swore that she was going to be a boy. We didn't have a girl's name. You got to give her a name to get out of the the hospital gave her a name. Six months later she goes, that's she that's not who she She's not an Emily. I said, okay, what's that mean? Well, you got to go down to the courthouse. We're going to change your name to Georgia. Okay. And then that was it. But given what she went through, whatever she said went, let's just get out of the hospital here.

Yes, Paul General Booty is the nephew of former NFL quarterback John David Booty.

Yes, Paul General Booty is the nephew of former NFL quarterback John David Booty.

Oh John David.

Oh John David.

Yes, and also form NFL quarterback Josh Booty is given name is General Axel Booty. Wow, I love military designations. Major apple White.

Yes, and also form NFL quarterback Josh Booty is given name is General Axel Booty. Wow, I love military designations. Major apple White.

That was good.

That was good.

Like you say, you know what we're going to go with major, We're not prepared to go with general not corporal?

Like you say, you know what we're going to go with major, We're not prepared to go with general not corporal?

Yes, not staff sergeant, staff sergeant apple White reporting for duty, Sir infinated. All right, so Bill Kauer will join us coming up. I'm wondering about Travis Hunter. Now we know he can play two positions? Is he going to be able to Does he get two salaries if he plays two positions? How many plays do you then say we got to pay him more because he's going to be a full time cornerback, part time wide receiver or vice versa. Jamar Chase is getting paid over forty million dollars. So if you look at the wide receiver position, forty million Derek Stingley Junior, the Texans just got thirty million dollars a year. Even the franchise tach twenty four million for a wide receiver, twenty one for a cornerback. And I'm wondering, if you're Travis Hunter, do you say I think I want to be a wide receiver because that's where there's more money. Stat of Today, brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program, and our bracket challenge. It's live right now on Foxsports Radio dot Com. You can play along with not only us, but also the celebrities, fans of the show, friends of the show at Foxsports Radio dot com. Cody in Texas, Hi, Cody, what's on your mind?

Yes, not staff sergeant, staff sergeant apple White reporting for duty, Sir infinated. All right, so Bill Kauer will join us coming up. I'm wondering about Travis Hunter. Now we know he can play two positions? Is he going to be able to Does he get two salaries if he plays two positions? How many plays do you then say we got to pay him more because he's going to be a full time cornerback, part time wide receiver or vice versa. Jamar Chase is getting paid over forty million dollars. So if you look at the wide receiver position, forty million Derek Stingley Junior, the Texans just got thirty million dollars a year. Even the franchise tach twenty four million for a wide receiver, twenty one for a cornerback. And I'm wondering, if you're Travis Hunter, do you say I think I want to be a wide receiver because that's where there's more money. Stat of Today, brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program, and our bracket challenge. It's live right now on Foxsports Radio dot Com. You can play along with not only us, but also the celebrities, fans of the show, friends of the show at Foxsports Radio dot com. Cody in Texas, Hi, Cody, what's on your mind?

Hey?

Hey?

Good morning.

Good morning.

Dan.

Dan.

Wanted to just comment. You know you had mentioned and I think you and even the governor of West Virginia are all on the same page. You know you had said the you know they should televise the selection committee unless they have something to hide. Yeah, And I think what the Governor's trying to say is there is something to hide. You have a bunch of people in a room who are financially incentivized for their team to make it. And I think what comes out of all of this is not an injunction to stop times game. That's silly. But I think, you know, you might see that these processes start to be televised because of something the governors do.

Wanted to just comment. You know you had mentioned and I think you and even the governor of West Virginia are all on the same page. You know you had said the you know they should televise the selection committee unless they have something to hide. Yeah, And I think what the Governor's trying to say is there is something to hide. You have a bunch of people in a room who are financially incentivized for their team to make it. And I think what comes out of all of this is not an injunction to stop times game. That's silly. But I think, you know, you might see that these processes start to be televised because of something the governors do.

I don't think they'll allow it. I don't think the nc DOUBLEA wants to be told what to do, although the nc DOUBLEA should be told what to do, needs direction, But all they are is they're a traffic comp in a small town. They're not really stopping anybody. It's like Barney Feife and Andy Griffith. You know they're not They're kind of harmless. But you aren't dealing with a lot of money here, and you're making big decisions here. Can you at least let us understand the process here, what goes on, what goes on with the you know, the college football rankings. I'd be curious. And if you're not going to allow us to have this, if you're not going to seek transparency, why, like if you have nothing to hide Now you may say, well, you know, people don't want to attach their name to certain opinions they might have. Okay, I just want the right people making the right decisions. The NCAA has been corrupt for a long, long, long time. There's a lot of things that go on. We don't know why they did, when they did, how long they did, even nil Now like now they're saying, if you're recruiting a kid nil out of high school, now you can offer enticements. Now you weren't allowed to do that and I'm doing this for the radio audience. In quotation marks with you know you weren't allowed to entice or recruit when they were leaving high school. Yeah, of course that never happened. Well, this is what happened. There's no paperwork. Now we've had some situations where kids get to college they didn't sign anything because you weren't allowed to sign something. Then they get there and then the school goes, uh, you didn't sign anything. There's no document, there's no paper trail because you couldn't. Well, now you can. It's just the NCAA gave us the student athlete back in the seventies, bolder buyers student athlete, and I thought, well, you know, it's a great name, a label. You're a student athlete. They're not. It's a full time job. It truly is. And the pressures now you have players getting death threats, you have prop bets, people are betting on you. Like, there's a lot going on right now in college college athletics. And I don't know if there's anybody who can kind of come in and clean it up, you know, you just and that's what is really scary. If you have something that makes billions of dollars and there's no speed limit here. What do you think is going to happen? There could be a lot of accidents, casualties. And that's the unfortunate part of this is there's a lot of march madness. Is wonderful the college football Playoff, it'll expand. These idiots finally realized how much money when I kept saying, you're at four, why don't you double it? And then you double your money, and then all of a sudden they go, you know what, We're gonna double it. And now we're going to go to twelve. Now we're going to go to fourteen. Then we'll go to sixteen. Now we have sixty eight teams. Now we want to go to seventy six. Okay, I'm gonna make money, but I want to make sure that you're smart with your product. And that's the disappointing part. The NC double A has not been smart. They have not been ahead of anything. They've always been oh my god, now what do we do? Like ni Elan the transfer portal, they're like once again, former coach told me, schools aren't going to pay for guys who aren't quarterbacks or wide receivers. I said, Oh, they will. I said, they'll buy an entire offensive line coach And he said, no way, goes what are we going to give them pizza? And I go okay, And once again I do rub it in with him occasionally when I hear that somebody got paid certain, you know, but that's because we didn't. Really, it was a myopic view. We're going to pay for the star. That's the way they used to do it. You paid for a star player. Basketball, you paid for a star player. You didn't pay everybody. You paid for a star player. That's not the case college football. You're paying offensive and defense. Look at Georgia. Look no further than Georgia. Look how they won, and you're able to do it legally. Brought in defensive line, offensive line. I mean, that's that's what's going on. But there's so much money here and they don't understand any of this. Nil. They fought it for years. Transfer portal, Oh, you can't let players do it? Why you let coaches do this? Why don't you have a coach sit out a year when he transfers to another school.

I don't think they'll allow it. I don't think the nc DOUBLEA wants to be told what to do, although the nc DOUBLEA should be told what to do, needs direction, But all they are is they're a traffic comp in a small town. They're not really stopping anybody. It's like Barney Feife and Andy Griffith. You know they're not They're kind of harmless. But you aren't dealing with a lot of money here, and you're making big decisions here. Can you at least let us understand the process here, what goes on, what goes on with the you know, the college football rankings. I'd be curious. And if you're not going to allow us to have this, if you're not going to seek transparency, why, like if you have nothing to hide Now you may say, well, you know, people don't want to attach their name to certain opinions they might have. Okay, I just want the right people making the right decisions. The NCAA has been corrupt for a long, long, long time. There's a lot of things that go on. We don't know why they did, when they did, how long they did, even nil Now like now they're saying, if you're recruiting a kid nil out of high school, now you can offer enticements. Now you weren't allowed to do that and I'm doing this for the radio audience. In quotation marks with you know you weren't allowed to entice or recruit when they were leaving high school. Yeah, of course that never happened. Well, this is what happened. There's no paperwork. Now we've had some situations where kids get to college they didn't sign anything because you weren't allowed to sign something. Then they get there and then the school goes, uh, you didn't sign anything. There's no document, there's no paper trail because you couldn't. Well, now you can. It's just the NCAA gave us the student athlete back in the seventies, bolder buyers student athlete, and I thought, well, you know, it's a great name, a label. You're a student athlete. They're not. It's a full time job. It truly is. And the pressures now you have players getting death threats, you have prop bets, people are betting on you. Like, there's a lot going on right now in college college athletics. And I don't know if there's anybody who can kind of come in and clean it up, you know, you just and that's what is really scary. If you have something that makes billions of dollars and there's no speed limit here. What do you think is going to happen? There could be a lot of accidents, casualties. And that's the unfortunate part of this is there's a lot of march madness. Is wonderful the college football Playoff, it'll expand. These idiots finally realized how much money when I kept saying, you're at four, why don't you double it? And then you double your money, and then all of a sudden they go, you know what, We're gonna double it. And now we're going to go to twelve. Now we're going to go to fourteen. Then we'll go to sixteen. Now we have sixty eight teams. Now we want to go to seventy six. Okay, I'm gonna make money, but I want to make sure that you're smart with your product. And that's the disappointing part. The NC double A has not been smart. They have not been ahead of anything. They've always been oh my god, now what do we do? Like ni Elan the transfer portal, they're like once again, former coach told me, schools aren't going to pay for guys who aren't quarterbacks or wide receivers. I said, Oh, they will. I said, they'll buy an entire offensive line coach And he said, no way, goes what are we going to give them pizza? And I go okay, And once again I do rub it in with him occasionally when I hear that somebody got paid certain, you know, but that's because we didn't. Really, it was a myopic view. We're going to pay for the star. That's the way they used to do it. You paid for a star player. Basketball, you paid for a star player. You didn't pay everybody. You paid for a star player. That's not the case college football. You're paying offensive and defense. Look at Georgia. Look no further than Georgia. Look how they won, and you're able to do it legally. Brought in defensive line, offensive line. I mean, that's that's what's going on. But there's so much money here and they don't understand any of this. Nil. They fought it for years. Transfer portal, Oh, you can't let players do it? Why you let coaches do this? Why don't you have a coach sit out a year when he transfers to another school.

Yes, didn't somebody try to argue with you about them not being able to pay? They didn't want to pay like offensive and defensive lineman. That's crazy to me because to me, it's easier to find fast little guys than fast big guys.

Yes, didn't somebody try to argue with you about them not being able to pay? They didn't want to pay like offensive and defensive lineman. That's crazy to me because to me, it's easier to find fast little guys than fast big guys.

He said, what are we going to pay him? Pizza? And I just said, I said, coach, you got it wrong. But he didn't want to pay. So they, you know, in their mind they don't want to pay. We shouldn't be paying. They should want to play for our school. That's just not the case anymore. And with March madness, can we get transparency? Is that asking a lot? I don't think they would ever allow it. All right, let me take a break. I'll get down off my soapbox. Here. Bill Cower will join us. Coming up next year, Dan Patrick Show.

He said, what are we going to pay him? Pizza? And I just said, I said, coach, you got it wrong. But he didn't want to pay. So they, you know, in their mind they don't want to pay. We shouldn't be paying. They should want to play for our school. That's just not the case anymore. And with March madness, can we get transparency? Is that asking a lot? I don't think they would ever allow it. All right, let me take a break. I'll get down off my soapbox. Here. Bill Cower will join us. Coming up next year, Dan Patrick Show.

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It was a month ago when Bill Kauer was on the program and he said that he expected the Steelers to have dialogue with Aaron Rodgers. Well, they probably had dialogue and we're still waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Coach joins us on the program. What do you think the Steelers are going to do and what do you think the Steelers should do at quarterback?

It was a month ago when Bill Kauer was on the program and he said that he expected the Steelers to have dialogue with Aaron Rodgers. Well, they probably had dialogue and we're still waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Coach joins us on the program. What do you think the Steelers are going to do and what do you think the Steelers should do at quarterback?

All right, well, number one, I've done a very good job of keeping their playing their cards in house and not sharing a lot of the conversations that they've had. I'm sure when you think about it, Dan so Well, I think right now there's really not a deadline. So I'm sure they're sitting back way and what their options are. I don't know exactly how much money has played into this, you know, I think they wanted justin fields. Is my speculation. Again, this is all speculation. I've talked to nobody within the building, but I think they wanted to go with a younger player to see if it can develop. I personally think that Russell Wilson is your best choice. It's the better It's going to be a better offensive line room with Fontano coming back and moving broader to left tackle. I think you're looking at the best receiving core you're going to have in a long time. In terms of they can keep George Pickens or not. They will be in the next conversation that you will have to have remand Wilson was a guy that very common on last year, Kylevin Austin stepped up. So I think the offense and hole and I think, you know, with Arthur Smith in the second year in theory, should should take a step forward. So I think they're sitting back and again I think this is not I like a Pittsburgh way of doing things, of seeing what their options are, not feeling pressed to make any decision based on the fact there's no deadline.

All right, well, number one, I've done a very good job of keeping their playing their cards in house and not sharing a lot of the conversations that they've had. I'm sure when you think about it, Dan so Well, I think right now there's really not a deadline. So I'm sure they're sitting back way and what their options are. I don't know exactly how much money has played into this, you know, I think they wanted justin fields. Is my speculation. Again, this is all speculation. I've talked to nobody within the building, but I think they wanted to go with a younger player to see if it can develop. I personally think that Russell Wilson is your best choice. It's the better It's going to be a better offensive line room with Fontano coming back and moving broader to left tackle. I think you're looking at the best receiving core you're going to have in a long time. In terms of they can keep George Pickens or not. They will be in the next conversation that you will have to have remand Wilson was a guy that very common on last year, Kylevin Austin stepped up. So I think the offense and hole and I think, you know, with Arthur Smith in the second year in theory, should should take a step forward. So I think they're sitting back and again I think this is not I like a Pittsburgh way of doing things, of seeing what their options are, not feeling pressed to make any decision based on the fact there's no deadline.

But also with Aaron at this age, how much how much should you factor age into this the way he plays the position?

But also with Aaron at this age, how much how much should you factor age into this the way he plays the position?

Well, I think the same is the factor wrestlingto it. I think that these are two players that who gives you the best chance to win this year, maybe next year, and then in the meantime bridge yourself to the next quarterback, whoever that may be. You know, I think back then to when we had Neil Donno who was a third round pick, and we ended up having Cordell Stewart who was a second round pick. You know, both those players, you know, as you sat there and you built your team, realize that you know that was a position that you know you had to have a consistent play from it. I think that's what they need to get, is it going to be a guy that's a franchise quarterback. Not everybody has one, but I think the biggest thing you have to do is build around it and not just sit there and wait on one position to say that that's going to be the fate of your football team. You think, to last five losses, this wasn't just on Russell Wilson, this was you know, you played two of the teams were in the Super Bowl, and then you lost three games to to to division teams, to to Baltimore and went to Cincinnati, and those are very much playoff caliber teams. And you know, I think we look at all five of them. You played against five really good quarterbacks, and the defense is not play up up to snuff, to be quite honest with you, and certainly the offense didn't contribute, didn't have your best players at the time. George Pickens was probably hurting at the end of the season, So you really a little handcuff from that position standpoint. But again, I think you go back and as you sit back and reflect, I think, you know, they had a chance to work with Justin, had a chance to work with Russell. You know who they are, and they know the system as well you lost Justin Russell still out there, you have a chance to get Aaron Rodgers and case still throw it. Yes, is he mobile enough? I think so? But does he really want to play? I mean, the longer you wait, you just have to wonder where is his heart? How much does he really want to do? And I said, you know, I just think when so he starts talking about retirement, they've already checked the box. So they've checked out to some degree, and uh, you know, so how much is he modified to want to come here and be a part of trying to win a championship and then consequently consequently bridging a bridge to the next guy. And maybe that next guy's Mason Rudolph. And he's sitting there right there underneath your nose. He played there before. Could he be a leader? Gino Smith? Could this be Sam Darnold who all of a sudden they blossom later in their careers. So I think there's a lot let that has to play out. I think signing Mason Rudolf made a lot of sense.

Well, I think the same is the factor wrestlingto it. I think that these are two players that who gives you the best chance to win this year, maybe next year, and then in the meantime bridge yourself to the next quarterback, whoever that may be. You know, I think back then to when we had Neil Donno who was a third round pick, and we ended up having Cordell Stewart who was a second round pick. You know, both those players, you know, as you sat there and you built your team, realize that you know that was a position that you know you had to have a consistent play from it. I think that's what they need to get, is it going to be a guy that's a franchise quarterback. Not everybody has one, but I think the biggest thing you have to do is build around it and not just sit there and wait on one position to say that that's going to be the fate of your football team. You think, to last five losses, this wasn't just on Russell Wilson, this was you know, you played two of the teams were in the Super Bowl, and then you lost three games to to to division teams, to to Baltimore and went to Cincinnati, and those are very much playoff caliber teams. And you know, I think we look at all five of them. You played against five really good quarterbacks, and the defense is not play up up to snuff, to be quite honest with you, and certainly the offense didn't contribute, didn't have your best players at the time. George Pickens was probably hurting at the end of the season, So you really a little handcuff from that position standpoint. But again, I think you go back and as you sit back and reflect, I think, you know, they had a chance to work with Justin, had a chance to work with Russell. You know who they are, and they know the system as well you lost Justin Russell still out there, you have a chance to get Aaron Rodgers and case still throw it. Yes, is he mobile enough? I think so? But does he really want to play? I mean, the longer you wait, you just have to wonder where is his heart? How much does he really want to do? And I said, you know, I just think when so he starts talking about retirement, they've already checked the box. So they've checked out to some degree, and uh, you know, so how much is he modified to want to come here and be a part of trying to win a championship and then consequently consequently bridging a bridge to the next guy. And maybe that next guy's Mason Rudolph. And he's sitting there right there underneath your nose. He played there before. Could he be a leader? Gino Smith? Could this be Sam Darnold who all of a sudden they blossom later in their careers. So I think there's a lot let that has to play out. I think signing Mason Rudolf made a lot of sense.

If you were still coaching, would you reach out to Aaron Rodgers?

If you were still coaching, would you reach out to Aaron Rodgers?

Yeah? I think I would have reached out to him from the very beginning. I'm sure that they did.

Yeah? I think I would have reached out to him from the very beginning. I'm sure that they did.

Again, Mike Tomlin reached out to him and just to gauge his interest.

Again, Mike Tomlin reached out to him and just to gauge his interest.

I don't think there's any any question about that. And I think, again from Aaron's standpoint, he's a guy that thinks through a lot of these things. This is where he's in his career. I do I think that if he decided to go wherever he goes, he'll be all in. That's just the way he is. I do think that there's a degree. And I said this to you last time I was on the show. I don't think he liked the way he exited, and you look how he played last year. He played all seventeen games determined to do so, but you know, the five wins, that's just not who he wants to go out as being a quarterback on that kind of team. So I think he's motivated to play, and I think at the same time, where does he want to play? But you know, those are conversations that you've got to be convinced that's where his heart is at. And I think that's the thing that you'd have to have is constant communication with HIMMS standpoint, and where's russelling this whole thing? So I mean, you know, that's the thing again. I go back to the same thing. You've worked with him for a year. A lot of good things were done, they weren't healthy at the end of the season. This is a much better receiving room corps DK Metcalf. You have a history with him. Again, the biggest question to me on that offensive side is what are you going to do with George Pickens? Is he going to be motivated to play in the last year of his contract? Are you going to extend him? Where is there going to be any degree of getting something for him from the standpoint of trade. So these are conversations that I think are having, but also there's no deadline to some of these conversations. The biggest deadline you're going to have right now is going to be the draft.

I don't think there's any any question about that. And I think, again from Aaron's standpoint, he's a guy that thinks through a lot of these things. This is where he's in his career. I do I think that if he decided to go wherever he goes, he'll be all in. That's just the way he is. I do think that there's a degree. And I said this to you last time I was on the show. I don't think he liked the way he exited, and you look how he played last year. He played all seventeen games determined to do so, but you know, the five wins, that's just not who he wants to go out as being a quarterback on that kind of team. So I think he's motivated to play, and I think at the same time, where does he want to play? But you know, those are conversations that you've got to be convinced that's where his heart is at. And I think that's the thing that you'd have to have is constant communication with HIMMS standpoint, and where's russelling this whole thing? So I mean, you know, that's the thing again. I go back to the same thing. You've worked with him for a year. A lot of good things were done, they weren't healthy at the end of the season. This is a much better receiving room corps DK Metcalf. You have a history with him. Again, the biggest question to me on that offensive side is what are you going to do with George Pickens? Is he going to be motivated to play in the last year of his contract? Are you going to extend him? Where is there going to be any degree of getting something for him from the standpoint of trade. So these are conversations that I think are having, but also there's no deadline to some of these conversations. The biggest deadline you're going to have right now is going to be the draft.

I'm talking to Bill Couer, Hall of Famer and now with the NFL today on CBS. When it comes to quarterbacks, I always think, you know, if I get together with you, I see your medicals and I do an interview with you. But I got to look at game tape like game tape has to factor in, you know, a really high percentage. I think we get caught up in the combine and we get caught up in pro days and then all of a sudden, I don't know, did you fall in love with somebody at a pro day or the combine and going against maybe kind of that intuitiveness of that guy's my kind of football player.

I'm talking to Bill Couer, Hall of Famer and now with the NFL today on CBS. When it comes to quarterbacks, I always think, you know, if I get together with you, I see your medicals and I do an interview with you. But I got to look at game tape like game tape has to factor in, you know, a really high percentage. I think we get caught up in the combine and we get caught up in pro days and then all of a sudden, I don't know, did you fall in love with somebody at a pro day or the combine and going against maybe kind of that intuitiveness of that guy's my kind of football player.

Yeah, I think you those are metrics that you're looking at that you know, whether it's there's speed, there's size, there's athleticism, the quarterback positions or act receive, the ability to have anticipation and throw with anticipation, the ability how much did you do in colleage and how much do you really how much did you run the offense or how much leeway did you have? Can you set protections, can you make audibles? These are things that to me, when you start to work with the guy, you find out what his strengths are and what is maybe his liabilities may be what you know, certain things that you just don't want to do with the guy ask me to do something he can't do. So I think it takes working with someone sometimes and again, you know, how much is the comfort level of that quarterback? I go back. I think the one thing I've been very much suppressed with it's kind like Kevin O'Connell. I think he can take a quarterback, he can sit in a room with them and realize exactly how much he can get out of this player. Where is this player comfortable? And that says that may be scaling something back, but also maybe an opportunity to open something up where they feel like, let me see it, Let me spread this out and see it and I can process things there. So how quarter of that process is and for me, how you deliver the information, the leeway you give him. What's his strengths athleticism wise, what's his strength reads wise? What's his better throws? Is he more accurate on certain areas and certain throws? These are things that you have to work with someone on a regular basis and you get a better feel for what they can and more importantly, what they can't do.

Yeah, I think you those are metrics that you're looking at that you know, whether it's there's speed, there's size, there's athleticism, the quarterback positions or act receive, the ability to have anticipation and throw with anticipation, the ability how much did you do in colleage and how much do you really how much did you run the offense or how much leeway did you have? Can you set protections, can you make audibles? These are things that to me, when you start to work with the guy, you find out what his strengths are and what is maybe his liabilities may be what you know, certain things that you just don't want to do with the guy ask me to do something he can't do. So I think it takes working with someone sometimes and again, you know, how much is the comfort level of that quarterback? I go back. I think the one thing I've been very much suppressed with it's kind like Kevin O'Connell. I think he can take a quarterback, he can sit in a room with them and realize exactly how much he can get out of this player. Where is this player comfortable? And that says that may be scaling something back, but also maybe an opportunity to open something up where they feel like, let me see it, Let me spread this out and see it and I can process things there. So how quarter of that process is and for me, how you deliver the information, the leeway you give him. What's his strengths athleticism wise, what's his strength reads wise? What's his better throws? Is he more accurate on certain areas and certain throws? These are things that you have to work with someone on a regular basis and you get a better feel for what they can and more importantly, what they can't do.

Okay, but how much I don't know if you were skeptical with Ben Roethlisberger, Like what what was the big concern you had with Roethlisberger when you drafted him?

Okay, but how much I don't know if you were skeptical with Ben Roethlisberger, Like what what was the big concern you had with Roethlisberger when you drafted him?

Probably just the level of play. You know, I watched him play, you know, play many big games. You know you're playing in the back. I get it, and there's you know, it's not bad competition, but you know, it's not the NFL, and you know, but when he did play those big games, he did play well. And so when we got him, I just, you know, I just didn't think it was fair to a young quarterback to throw them in there right away, Dan, because the game is faster, you're processing things more, it's more complex, it's a new system. I just think you want to make sure that quarterback is comfortable, and that's your football team is comfortable with that quarterback, you know. So I didn't want to set our team back by putting someone in there who wasn't ready to go in there. And at the same time, do I stud his growth and development as a quarterback. So I do think there's a lot to be said for not even starting up now. He came in the third game of the season of his Bookie year and started playing. But he didn't have that pressure in the preseason. He had that pressure in training camp. He was doing a lot of like one minute and two minutes, you know, no huddle quarterback, I mean practices, and he was he was running in a no huddle and doing the one minutes and he played in the preseason. Then limited time in the third and fourth quarter, maybe in a backup role, so the pressure of not being to get the week one starter was not on him, and so when he came in, you know, we kind of try to ease him into it in terms of we had a football team around him. And that's why I say before I said building it around him. We had a good offensive line, we had a running game, We had a pretty solid group of receivers. So it was just coming in and making sure that you ran and it did your part in that offense. I didn't ask you to win games. We'll asking you not to lose games. That doesn't mean you're being risk adverse. So this means you're not taking chances of doing the things that allow him to do. And he did come in and he you know, he felt more comfortable out of the pocket and running around and I used to call it playing street ball, where he didn't. He made the game look very simple. It wasn't how we designed it and frustrating at times as a coach, but at the same time, we were winning games and he was doing things that he felt comfortable. So you try to reel them in, but not too much because you kind of let him do his thing because he was having success, but you knew it wasn't sustainable. So what you would really try to do is just get him to grow to develop. While he was very comfortable within this system that he thought was very simple, so you try to keep it simple and then it become more complex and he becomes more comfortable.

Probably just the level of play. You know, I watched him play, you know, play many big games. You know you're playing in the back. I get it, and there's you know, it's not bad competition, but you know, it's not the NFL, and you know, but when he did play those big games, he did play well. And so when we got him, I just, you know, I just didn't think it was fair to a young quarterback to throw them in there right away, Dan, because the game is faster, you're processing things more, it's more complex, it's a new system. I just think you want to make sure that quarterback is comfortable, and that's your football team is comfortable with that quarterback, you know. So I didn't want to set our team back by putting someone in there who wasn't ready to go in there. And at the same time, do I stud his growth and development as a quarterback. So I do think there's a lot to be said for not even starting up now. He came in the third game of the season of his Bookie year and started playing. But he didn't have that pressure in the preseason. He had that pressure in training camp. He was doing a lot of like one minute and two minutes, you know, no huddle quarterback, I mean practices, and he was he was running in a no huddle and doing the one minutes and he played in the preseason. Then limited time in the third and fourth quarter, maybe in a backup role, so the pressure of not being to get the week one starter was not on him, and so when he came in, you know, we kind of try to ease him into it in terms of we had a football team around him. And that's why I say before I said building it around him. We had a good offensive line, we had a running game, We had a pretty solid group of receivers. So it was just coming in and making sure that you ran and it did your part in that offense. I didn't ask you to win games. We'll asking you not to lose games. That doesn't mean you're being risk adverse. So this means you're not taking chances of doing the things that allow him to do. And he did come in and he you know, he felt more comfortable out of the pocket and running around and I used to call it playing street ball, where he didn't. He made the game look very simple. It wasn't how we designed it and frustrating at times as a coach, but at the same time, we were winning games and he was doing things that he felt comfortable. So you try to reel them in, but not too much because you kind of let him do his thing because he was having success, but you knew it wasn't sustainable. So what you would really try to do is just get him to grow to develop. While he was very comfortable within this system that he thought was very simple, so you try to keep it simple and then it become more complex and he becomes more comfortable.

I think you gave us the story that Ben would act like he couldn't hear you.

I think you gave us the story that Ben would act like he couldn't hear you.

Yeah, that's when he got real. He got wall he got too comfortable. So it's like, like, let me just do this. I think I think my headphones are out. No they're not, because I'm got me skip that home And I said, the helmet's fine. Go oh Ben, the helmet's fine. He goes, it just came back on. I go, yeah, I came back on. It's called selective hearing. Selective hearing. So yeah, if we have it with our kids, He was like, I have one of my kids. They have selective hearing.

Yeah, that's when he got real. He got wall he got too comfortable. So it's like, like, let me just do this. I think I think my headphones are out. No they're not, because I'm got me skip that home And I said, the helmet's fine. Go oh Ben, the helmet's fine. He goes, it just came back on. I go, yeah, I came back on. It's called selective hearing. Selective hearing. So yeah, if we have it with our kids, He was like, I have one of my kids. They have selective hearing.

Can you relate it all to Bill Belichick?

Can you relate it all to Bill Belichick?

Yeah, I mean well as a football coach for sure. I mean I think that like, did you.

Yeah, I mean well as a football coach for sure. I mean I think that like, did you.

Ever think like, I mean, that's that's a big change. Could you ever see yourself? I don't think you coached in college as a head coach, but doing something like that. If NC State says, would you like to coach us? Could you see that even right now? I mean you're younger than Belichick.

Ever think like, I mean, that's that's a big change. Could you ever see yourself? I don't think you coached in college as a head coach, but doing something like that. If NC State says, would you like to coach us? Could you see that even right now? I mean you're younger than Belichick.

Yeah, no, I mean the coaching landscape right now in college sports is just I don't know. I always looked at college sports as being a purity of It's it's amateur element to it. You work your way to the professional element. It's a period of time. You know, only one percent of college players are going to play professional football and everyone else is going to move on to their next state stage in life. And so I thought it was the best four years of my life when I played in college.

Yeah, no, I mean the coaching landscape right now in college sports is just I don't know. I always looked at college sports as being a purity of It's it's amateur element to it. You work your way to the professional element. It's a period of time. You know, only one percent of college players are going to play professional football and everyone else is going to move on to their next state stage in life. And so I thought it was the best four years of my life when I played in college.

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And you you're tremendously impacted by your coaches, and I love that part of it. I remember going down when I stepped down, be able to talk to to the NC State football team on sprint print spring practices and just recognize the kind of impact you have as a coach for those people. I remember, you know my coach. I had Lou Holtz my first year of bo Ryan my next three years.

And you you're tremendously impacted by your coaches, and I love that part of it. I remember going down when I stepped down, be able to talk to to the NC State football team on sprint print spring practices and just recognize the kind of impact you have as a coach for those people. I remember, you know my coach. I had Lou Holtz my first year of bo Ryan my next three years.

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Some of the players I played with I still in contact with today, and so you know, it's you know, high school football, college football. I mean that was that was pure and it was it was a part of growing up, and you know, at that point then you have to be ready to move on to the next days of life. And I was fortunate enough to be able to stay in the professional football make it for for five years, and get into coaching. And but I coaching is still it's in your blood. That's Anything I'll say about Bill I do doesn't surprise me, because I do think he does love coaching the game of football. I think he's his core values of how he believes the game should be played, and the respect that he has for the game is something that will be a great benefit to to to the players that he ends up coaching. So I think that from that standpoint as a football coach, he's tremendously insightful. I think he's very good at what he does, you know, have great impact on those people. So I think that if mess standpoint, it doesn't surprise me. It wouldn't be interesting to see how they how it goes with them and the whole college football scene. Dan right now with the NIL and hiring GMS now talking about positions of GMS and college football. It's almost like the wild wild West. I just just doesn't seem like to any guardrails sometimes in terms of what they can and can't do.

Some of the players I played with I still in contact with today, and so you know, it's you know, high school football, college football. I mean that was that was pure and it was it was a part of growing up, and you know, at that point then you have to be ready to move on to the next days of life. And I was fortunate enough to be able to stay in the professional football make it for for five years, and get into coaching. And but I coaching is still it's in your blood. That's Anything I'll say about Bill I do doesn't surprise me, because I do think he does love coaching the game of football. I think he's his core values of how he believes the game should be played, and the respect that he has for the game is something that will be a great benefit to to to the players that he ends up coaching. So I think that from that standpoint as a football coach, he's tremendously insightful. I think he's very good at what he does, you know, have great impact on those people. So I think that if mess standpoint, it doesn't surprise me. It wouldn't be interesting to see how they how it goes with them and the whole college football scene. Dan right now with the NIL and hiring GMS now talking about positions of GMS and college football. It's almost like the wild wild West. I just just doesn't seem like to any guardrails sometimes in terms of what they can and can't do.

How many times do you think you were out coached in your career.

How many times do you think you were out coached in your career.

It happen?

It happen?

I mean, I mean we spend a lot of time talking about coaches and Belichick being maybe the greatest coach of all time, But can you get out coached?

I mean, I mean we spend a lot of time talking about coaches and Belichick being maybe the greatest coach of all time, But can you get out coached?

Yeah? I mean I think when you're not prepared and you don't have the ability to have flexibility to make you know, uh, you know, alterations in terms of what you do in the course of the game, you got to you know, you talk about house game adjustments. That's real. What's real is the fact is you can prepare all week for something and if I can show you something you have prepared for them, it's gonna be your ability to be able to be a good teacher on the men and to be able to do some things on the sideline to make some adjustments in game adjustments. And so that to me is where at times, you know, you feel like you're you're you're a play caller or you're a defensive signal caller. Sometimes you feel like you're just just one play behind. There's there's a step ahead. They you call something and they can beat you with it, or something you are ahead of them, you're dictating the pace play. So I do think coaching is so impactful in the game, and in every game that you win or lose, you can go back to three or four plays that maybe you wish you had back, and three or four plays that you say, wow, you know it was a great call at the right time, or at times it's just the way the ball bounced. And so there are times when you know it's just you know, you can take one or two plays and it's a fifty to fifty ball that you didn't come down with. Is that being out coach. I wouldn't say that is, but I think to a degree, I think every football game that you win and lose, there's a tremendous impact that coaching can have in that game in terms of what you do and also then moving forward. And I do think that sometimes some of the greatest lessons you learned is you watch a football team, you think one thing going in then you come out of it. Is that ability to be able to stay a step ahead all of a sudden, all of a sudden, not be a team that can be all. We know exactly what you're going to do every week. I'm always going to have the better players than you. So I got schematically be able to do something that can give my football team a competitive inage and how I coach them, and my decision making and my ability to adapt and adjust and do some things differently. Because it's just not working. Keep beating my head against the wall. Think Okay, we's gonna keep doing it because that's who we are. We'll know who we are, should be someone you're not sure who we are. If I can make sure you're not sure who we are because we throw a lot of different things. That to me is what great coaching is about. Is to be able to stay a step ahead, to be creative in your thinking, open minded in your thinking, and keep your players kind of excited about what's coming up next, because even they know if there's gonna be something a little bit tweaking, we're gonna tweak something about how we approach every game each week, making it all personal.

Yeah? I mean I think when you're not prepared and you don't have the ability to have flexibility to make you know, uh, you know, alterations in terms of what you do in the course of the game, you got to you know, you talk about house game adjustments. That's real. What's real is the fact is you can prepare all week for something and if I can show you something you have prepared for them, it's gonna be your ability to be able to be a good teacher on the men and to be able to do some things on the sideline to make some adjustments in game adjustments. And so that to me is where at times, you know, you feel like you're you're you're a play caller or you're a defensive signal caller. Sometimes you feel like you're just just one play behind. There's there's a step ahead. They you call something and they can beat you with it, or something you are ahead of them, you're dictating the pace play. So I do think coaching is so impactful in the game, and in every game that you win or lose, you can go back to three or four plays that maybe you wish you had back, and three or four plays that you say, wow, you know it was a great call at the right time, or at times it's just the way the ball bounced. And so there are times when you know it's just you know, you can take one or two plays and it's a fifty to fifty ball that you didn't come down with. Is that being out coach. I wouldn't say that is, but I think to a degree, I think every football game that you win and lose, there's a tremendous impact that coaching can have in that game in terms of what you do and also then moving forward. And I do think that sometimes some of the greatest lessons you learned is you watch a football team, you think one thing going in then you come out of it. Is that ability to be able to stay a step ahead all of a sudden, all of a sudden, not be a team that can be all. We know exactly what you're going to do every week. I'm always going to have the better players than you. So I got schematically be able to do something that can give my football team a competitive inage and how I coach them, and my decision making and my ability to adapt and adjust and do some things differently. Because it's just not working. Keep beating my head against the wall. Think Okay, we's gonna keep doing it because that's who we are. We'll know who we are, should be someone you're not sure who we are. If I can make sure you're not sure who we are because we throw a lot of different things. That to me is what great coaching is about. Is to be able to stay a step ahead, to be creative in your thinking, open minded in your thinking, and keep your players kind of excited about what's coming up next, because even they know if there's gonna be something a little bit tweaking, we're gonna tweak something about how we approach every game each week, making it all personal.

Is there a decision that you made that still haunts you? Ah?

Is there a decision that you made that still haunts you? Ah?

You know? I mean you get fourth and three in the AFC Championship game and you have the three yard line and it's like, that's your game. If you go score a touchdown, you you go to the Super Bowl. If you don't, you go home. Well called the play and Neil Donald passed that was banned by Dennis Gibson. That was intended for Barry Foster. So I guess I just gave you that play, which I was so yeah, so it was incomplete. Would I want that play back? Yeah, maybe I would want that play back. Yeah, no, okay, you had to bring it up. I just told you there was a Neil Donald now by Dennis Gibson, and it was intended for Barry Foster. I thought it was a great play. I actually called the play and it was the nineteen ninety four AFC Championship game against the San Diego Chargers, So yeah, that was ironically enough, the following year, in the same end zone AFC Championship game, last play of the game was a hail Mary from Jim Harball into the end zone and this one was bannedn So this was another incomplete pass in the end zone, but this time it was a good thing. So it was I remember those two plays very vividly. And also the remember the play that we have Ben Roethlisberger block and Antoine Randall well to Hines wardplay. We practiced staff for so long and it was in the fourth quarter and it was kind of sealed the game. So you do remember particular plays that were very impactful in big games, and they're all not always wins.

You know? I mean you get fourth and three in the AFC Championship game and you have the three yard line and it's like, that's your game. If you go score a touchdown, you you go to the Super Bowl. If you don't, you go home. Well called the play and Neil Donald passed that was banned by Dennis Gibson. That was intended for Barry Foster. So I guess I just gave you that play, which I was so yeah, so it was incomplete. Would I want that play back? Yeah, maybe I would want that play back. Yeah, no, okay, you had to bring it up. I just told you there was a Neil Donald now by Dennis Gibson, and it was intended for Barry Foster. I thought it was a great play. I actually called the play and it was the nineteen ninety four AFC Championship game against the San Diego Chargers, So yeah, that was ironically enough, the following year, in the same end zone AFC Championship game, last play of the game was a hail Mary from Jim Harball into the end zone and this one was bannedn So this was another incomplete pass in the end zone, but this time it was a good thing. So it was I remember those two plays very vividly. And also the remember the play that we have Ben Roethlisberger block and Antoine Randall well to Hines wardplay. We practiced staff for so long and it was in the fourth quarter and it was kind of sealed the game. So you do remember particular plays that were very impactful in big games, and they're all not always wins.

Are you glad you called in today?

Are you glad you called in today?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah, I'm glad.

Yeah, I'm glad.

I'm glad you even asked me to come in.

I'm glad you even asked me to come in.

Yeah, okay, I am, okay, I know, I just.

Yeah, okay, I am, okay, I know, I just.

I like this conversation. This is great.

I like this conversation. This is great.

I didn't want to ruin your day where you're you know, you go to lunch and your wife's going, what's wrong? The very Foster throw and.

I didn't want to ruin your day where you're you know, you go to lunch and your wife's going, what's wrong? The very Foster throw and.

I know you started listen. I love the fact this time of year there is free agency going on. They're getting ready for the draft, you know, and free agency really does impact the draft. Say what you want, but like a lot of things that happened between now and then, you know, I go back to up until the very day of the draft, we traded for uh, Jerome Bennis against with the Rams, and consequently we didn't uh, we didn't we were going to take Eddie George if we didn't get very uh, if we didn't get Jerome bettet So uh, there's you know, this time of year, it's funny because everybody's decisions and you have like the musical chairs with the quarterbacks. He's got Russell Aaron. You still have the Giants probably looking for one, but are they going to draft one? You know, is Kevin o'kay going into it with J. J. McCarthy and no other veterans. So you're kind of waiting to see what happens and how that unfolds. And so it's if you wake up and you kind of check the news and see what any news is the other day and we're still still waiting on Aeron and no you I'm sure he's still on the beach walking up and down this morning to see what he wants to do. I don't know, but you know, but it is like I said before, there's no timetable right now. I know we all got in and get anxious about what's going on, what are we going to do here there? But you know, at the same time, I think you're getting ready for some of these pro days, you're getting ready for the draft, and and I think right now you're in a feel for what you want to do and more importantly of where the wad players' mindsets are.

I know you started listen. I love the fact this time of year there is free agency going on. They're getting ready for the draft, you know, and free agency really does impact the draft. Say what you want, but like a lot of things that happened between now and then, you know, I go back to up until the very day of the draft, we traded for uh, Jerome Bennis against with the Rams, and consequently we didn't uh, we didn't we were going to take Eddie George if we didn't get very uh, if we didn't get Jerome bettet So uh, there's you know, this time of year, it's funny because everybody's decisions and you have like the musical chairs with the quarterbacks. He's got Russell Aaron. You still have the Giants probably looking for one, but are they going to draft one? You know, is Kevin o'kay going into it with J. J. McCarthy and no other veterans. So you're kind of waiting to see what happens and how that unfolds. And so it's if you wake up and you kind of check the news and see what any news is the other day and we're still still waiting on Aeron and no you I'm sure he's still on the beach walking up and down this morning to see what he wants to do. I don't know, but you know, but it is like I said before, there's no timetable right now. I know we all got in and get anxious about what's going on, what are we going to do here there? But you know, at the same time, I think you're getting ready for some of these pro days, you're getting ready for the draft, and and I think right now you're in a feel for what you want to do and more importantly of where the wad players' mindsets are.

Great to talk to your coaches always, thanks for joining us.

Great to talk to your coaches always, thanks for joining us.

Thanks Dan.

Thanks Dan.

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