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Sen. Chris Murphy - Finding Common Ground on Gun Safety

Published Jun 5, 2022, 3:30 AM

Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy shares details from the bipartisan gun reform conversations following the Uvalde shooting, discusses how the once unbreakable gun lobby is now losing steam, and explains why the current Senate rules have restricted action. 

You're listening to Comedy Central, please welcome sending christ Murphy to the day show, Son of Murphy. It it must feel at some point like you you are you know, going up against an immovable force. It must feel at some point like you're engaging in a conversation that seems to go around and around in circles. But it seems like in and around this time there is some movement. There are some Republicans who have said, you know what, maybe there is something we should be doing, even if it is not the perfect solution. Let's let's jump straight into that and talk about what you've seen in terms of a bypasses and move to change what gun safety should be in America. Well, Trevor, thanks for having me on. And it does feel often like deja vu repeating itself. Um ten years I've been at this um. The American public has made up their mind. There's nothing in this kind tree that's as popular is changing the gun laws to make our kids safer. Nine of Americans support things like making sure that everybody has to go through a background check before they buy a gun. But we run up against this brick wall, which is the power of the gun industry. And the gun lobby. But you're right, it does feel different this time. UM. I just got off the phone off a zoom call with UM about uh ten or twelve Republicans and Democrats that are trying to pass something that will save lives, not do everything, but try to break this log jam. And I think it's because of the very unique cataclysmic nature of this last mass shooting, but also because over the last ten years, you know, we've built an anti gun violence movement that is powerful, that has just as many members and just as much money as the n R and the gun lobby has, and that has started to have an impact. So I don't know whether this is going to succeed. I've been, you know, Charlie Brown kicking up football that gets pulled out from under me over and over again enough times to know that maybe this won't turn out differently. But UM, I owe it to the families in Texas, the families in my state, in Sandy Hook, to give it a try. What seems to be the hold up? What are some of the internal conversations that you're having, you know, without betraying anybody's trust, what are the sticking points? Because if if so many Americans. If such a large percentage is in support of many of these common sense measures, why then do their representatives not seem able to put those things into effect? Well, right now, this is a problem only inside the Republican Party. Every single Democrat in the Senate would support things like expanded background checks. And the reason that there's a problem in the Republican Party is that, um to win a Republican primary today, a lot of my colleagues think that you need the endorsement of the gun lobby, not not just because of the money that comes from groups like the n r A, but because, um, you know, associating yourself with the gun industry has become kind of a proxy for a broader set of conservative values. And so we've got to solve that problem for Republicans. We've got to find another way for them to demonstrate how conservative they are without having to do the bidding of a of an industry that is supported by only ten percent of their constituents. But that's starting to change because now a lot of Republicans are starting to see if they vote for things, um, you know, like restrictions on UM assault weapons, they actually we rewarded by larger numbers of their constituents than ever before that support these things. So I think the political calculations of some of my colleagues are beginning to change, but it's slow. You know, for decades they were told you can never ever beat the gun lobby in an election. That's not true anymore, but it takes a little while for that lesson to be learned. Let's talk about some of the concrete steps then you're looking to take. You know, every mess shooting in America is followed very promptly by people saying this wouldn't be solved by that solution. This solution wouldn't solve that problem, and it becomes a chicken in the egg scenario that never seems to end. What are some of the concrete measures that you can take now to change some of the gun laws in America to make the country safer at least, if not perfect. Yeah, and I think it's really important to remember that there's a mass slaughter in this country every single day. I get it, there's good reason why this country pays more attention after a catastrophe like e'valdi, But there's a hundred and ten d twenty people every single day who died from guns. And in fact, since you've aaldi, there's been eighteen mass shootings in the United States. Now it was four people, ten people, twelve people, not enough to get the headlines, but there's a crisis every single day. What are we talking about? Red flag laws? These are the laws that allow you to take guns away temporarily from kids like this guy, and you've all day who is showing signs of doing something disastrous. We're talking about strengthening our background check system. We're not gonna get all the way to universal background checks, but making sure that more gun sales come with these background checks. UM. We're talking about UM money for community anti violence in this ship. It's trying to wrap services around at risk kids, especially in our cities UM where poverty also often leads to violence. UM. That could make a big impact as well. So it's not everything I want, but it would be the most significant set of gun reforms in really thirty years, and we're closer than ever to getting it done. There are many UM people who voted for Democrats who I think would sometimes look enviously at what Republicans are able to do despite despite you know, their setbacks. You know, we've seen what Mitch McConnell has been able to do with the Supreme Court. We've seen what Republicans have been able to do with abortion and restricting it around the country. Um, do do you ever consider these options? Do you ever think to yourself, oh, man, we should also be looking at ways to use the tools and the mechanisms that are present to us in America to get something done or or is there a reason that you don't take that approach. Well, right now, we have a majority in the House the Senate that support or expanding background checks to every gun sale, which would probably save the most lives. We have a president will sign that bill. The problem is the rules of the Senate right now require you to get sixty votes, not fifty votes in order to pass a bill like that. So for the American people, it's frustrating, right because they did their job. They put majorities in the House, the Senate, President of the White House to support where they support expanded protections when it comes to our nation's kids in the safety of our communities. But the rules of the Senate stand in the way. Now. When Mitch McConnell wanted to get conservatives on the Supreme Court to outlaw abortion. He changed the rules of the Senate. But right now we are a few votes shy in the Democratic Caucus of changing the rules now that we're in charge. So yes, I don't think we should deliberately adopt the policies of Mitch McConnell. But I do think that when we have power, um, you know, when the voters have given us power, we should listen to them, um and do what the majority of Americans want us to do. Well, I'm sure most Americans would hope, in fact, all that you're not Charlie Brown. This time the bull doesn't get taken away and something actually gets done. Thank you so much for taking the time to join us, and we hope to see you again. Thanks. Wat's The Daily Show weeknights at eleven tenth Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus. This has been a Comedy Central podcast

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