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Hedge funds are jumping into the collateralized loan obligation market in pursuit of fat and steady returns, according to Bloomberg News’ Lisa Lee. CLOs are meanwhile menaced by the lingering threat of recession and higher rates — while increasingly repackaging private debt — Lee says. In this episode of the Credit Edge Podcast, Bloomberg News senior editor James Crombie also asks Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Jeroen Julius about the outlook for the AT1 market after the collapse of Credit Suisse. Prices have recovered but for some investors, the market’s just too choppy, Julius says.

Hedge funds are jumping into the collateralized loan obligation market in pursuit of fat and steady returns, according to Bloomberg News’ Lisa Lee. CLOs are meanwhile menaced by the lingering threat of recession and higher rates — while increasingly repackaging private debt — Lee says. In this episode of the Credit Edge Podcast, Bloomberg News senior editor James Crombie also asks Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Jeroen Julius about the outlook for the AT1 market after the collapse of Credit Suisse. Prices have recovered but for some investors, the market’s just too choppy, Julius says.

The Credit Edge reviews the top credit news of the week and looks at the week ahead, with in-depth research of the most important corporate sectors, trends and themes. Analysis of specific corporate bonds and credit default swaps is backed by Bloomberg Intelligence's robust data sets and indexes.

The Credit Edge reviews the top credit news of the week and looks at the week ahead, with in-depth research of the most important corporate sectors, trends and themes. Analysis of specific corporate bonds and credit default swaps is backed by Bloomberg Intelligence's robust data sets and indexes.

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Hedge Funds Are Diving Into CLOs; AT1s Revitalize

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SpaceX bondholders are bolstered by a fat equity cushion, high-grade ratings and a relatively small amount of debt outstanding — but they depend on founder Elon Musk, according to Bloomberg Intelligence. “There’s a huge risk there, and the rating agencies have actually pointed this out in terms of governance,” Robert Schiffman, BI senior technology credit analyst, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie in this special episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “You’re absolutely on an Elon Musk trip — his vision and his ability to raise money is a large portion of this company right now,” adds George Ferguson, BI senior equity analyst for aerospace, defense and airlines. The trio also discuss poor secondary performance in SpaceX bonds, relative value compared with the equity, and credit-market risks if AI flops.

SpaceX bondholders are bolstered by a fat equity cushion, high-grade ratings and a relatively small amount of debt outstanding &mdash; but they depend on founder Elon Musk, according to Bloomberg Intelligence. &ldquo;There&rsquo;s a huge risk there, and the rating agencies have actually pointed this out in terms of governance,&rdquo; Robert Schiffman, BI senior technology credit analyst, tells Bloomberg News&rsquo; James Crombie in this special episode of the Credit Edge podcast. &ldquo;You&rsquo;re absolutely on an Elon Musk trip &mdash; his vision and his ability to raise money is a large portion of this company right now,&rdquo; adds George Ferguson, BI senior equity analyst for aerospace, defense and airlines. The trio also discuss poor secondary performance in SpaceX bonds, relative value compared with the equity, and credit-market risks if AI flops.

SpaceX Bondholders Face Huge Key Person Risk on Their Elon Musk Trip

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Further acceleration in AI debt issuance has the potential to steer demand away from government bonds, according to Amundi, Europe’s largest asset manager. “At some point it could have a crowding effect, but we are not there yet,” Gregoire Pesques, the firm’s chief investment officer for global fixed income, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Tolu Alamutu in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “It’s a risk that we monitor,” says Pesques, whose company has $2.7 trillion under management. They also discuss value in corporate debt relative to government bonds, how G7 countries are behaving more like emerging markets and Amundi’s concerns about central bank independence.

 

Further acceleration in AI debt issuance has the potential to steer demand away from government bonds, according to Amundi, Europe&rsquo;s largest asset manager. &ldquo;At some point it could have a crowding effect, but we are not there yet,&rdquo; Gregoire Pesques, the firm&rsquo;s chief investment officer for global fixed income, tells Bloomberg News&rsquo; James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence&rsquo;s Tolu Alamutu in the latest Credit Edge podcast. &ldquo;It&rsquo;s a risk that we monitor,&rdquo; says Pesques, whose company has $2.7 trillion under management. They also discuss value in corporate debt relative to government bonds, how G7 countries are behaving more like emerging markets and Amundi&rsquo;s concerns about central bank independence.
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Europe's Largest Asset Manager Warns of AI Debt Deluge Crowding Out

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Private credit disarray spells opportunity for housing giant Pretium, which targets high returns by lending to US homebuilders. “Our private credit looks a little bit different than other private credit in the sense that we are secured, we have real good downside protection,” Jon Pruzan, the company’s co-president, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Erica Adelberg in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “We have a lot of people who want capital and not a lot of people providing capital — that puts us in an opportunity to continue to generate attractive returns,” says Pruzan, who was previously chief financial officer at Morgan Stanley. They also discuss housing fundamentals, opportunity by region, how Pretium achieves midteens returns and political risks going into the November US midterm elections.

Private credit disarray spells opportunity for housing giant Pretium, which targets high returns by lending to US homebuilders. &ldquo;Our private credit looks a little bit different than other private credit in the sense that we are secured, we have real good downside protection,&rdquo; Jon Pruzan, the company&rsquo;s co-president, tells Bloomberg News&rsquo; James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence&rsquo;s Erica Adelberg in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. &ldquo;We have a lot of people who want capital and not a lot of people providing capital &mdash; that puts us in an opportunity to continue to generate attractive returns,&rdquo; says Pruzan, who was previously chief financial officer at Morgan Stanley. They also discuss housing fundamentals, opportunity by region, how Pretium achieves midteens returns and political risks going into the November US midterm elections.

Real Estate Is Next Bet for Debt Investors Avoiding Private Credit

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Hedge Funds Are Diving Into CLOs; AT1s Revitalize

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