With the guys all at The Star and Mickey still at training camp in Oxnard, the talk turned to Tuesday’s scrimmage against the Rams where the defense held its own against the NFL’s No. 1 ranked offense last year. The defense played well against the run for sure, which has been shortcoming in past meetings with the Rams, and then talk turned to facing the world champion Seahawks Saturday in the first preseason game.

Join Mickey Spagnola, Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Hek'ma Harrison for fast-paced Cowboys talk, expert insight, and spirited debate on the latest news and storylines surrounding the Dallas Cowboys.

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The Cowboys Shift: Looking Both Ways

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Almost all back together, Hek’ma and Everson join the show from The Star back in Frisco, with Mickey still here and Bill traveling back to Dallas today, but the guys get a comprehensive report from out here in Oxnard, talking upgraded defensive personnel, new DC Christian Parker, some of the top draft choices, along with the evolving offense, including the progress of guys like Tyler Guyton, Jaydon Blue and for sure No. 1 pick Caleb Downs.

The Cowboys Shift: Switching Gears

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The guys got sidetracked with Bill asking Dak during an interview if he would be in favor of tinting the glass at AT&T Stadium, but quickly turned to Mickey’s personnel changes with the defense, the confidence Dak is exhibiting with the entire team, the retooled defensive coaching staff and Nate on how Norv Turner turned around their offense.

<p>The guys got sidetracked with Bill asking Dak during an interview if he would be in favor of tinting the glass at AT&amp;T Stadium, but quickly turned to Mickey&rsquo;s personnel changes with the defense, the confidence Dak is exhibiting with the entire team, the retooled defensive coaching staff and Nate on how Norv Turner turned around their offense.</p>

Cowboys Shift: What A Sunny Day

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Finally with the pads coming on for the first time in training camp on Monday, some real football, or at least as close to real as it comes in training camp. The guys breaking it down, with the defense showing improvement against run, assignment sound in the secondary, then injury update on TE Princeton Fant and look where WR Ryan Flournoy is now.

Cowboys Shift: Real Football . . . Sorta

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The Cowboys Shift: Looking Both Ways

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