Gregg Phillips, the current head of the largest division at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, has said that he has teleported multiple times — including at least once to a Waffle House.

We checked, and it’s still true that we don’t have the technology for human teleportation.

At the same time, quantum teleportation is totally a thing!

This hour, a look at teleportation in science, philosophy, pop culture … and politics.

GUESTS:

• Eden Gordon: A writer and editor; she writes the Ink Roads Substack
• Tal M. Klein: A writer and musician and the chief marketing officer at Lakeside Software; he is the author of the novel The Punch Escrow
• Nikki McCann Ramírez: A politics reporter at Rolling Stone
• Eric Schwitzgebel: Distinguished professor of philosophy at the University of California, Riverside; he writes a Substack called The Splintered Mind

Music featured (in order):

• Theme from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine – Dennis McCarthy as performed by Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra
• Once in a Lifetime – Talking Heads
• Waffle House – Jonas Brothers
• Beam Me Up – Pink
• Uncle Walter – Ben Folds Five
• Teleport – Baely

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Colin McEnroe and Dylan Reyes contributed to this show.