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What happens when the people reshaping our world don't believe in introspection? This hour, a look at looking inward. And, we explore the spectrum of mental imagery.

GUESTS:
Elizabeth Lopatto: Senior reporter for The Verge
Maja Spener: Associate Professor in Philosophy at the University of Birmingham. She is the author of Introspection: First-Person Access in Science and Agency
Reshanne Reeder: Lecturer in Cognitive and Clinical Neuroscience at the University of Liverpool

Music featured (in order):
Who Knows – Daniel Caesar
What Kind of Fool Am I – Sammy Davis Jr.
Man in the Mirror – Michael Jackson
There’s No Telling – Duncan Sheik
I’m So Lonesome I Could Cry – Cassandra Wilson
Pretty Little Picture – Zero Mostel (Original Broadway Cast)

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What happens when the people reshaping our world don't believe in introspection? This hour, a look at looking inward. And, we explore the spectrum of mental imagery.
GUESTS:
<ul>
<li>Elizabeth Lopatto:&nbsp;Senior reporter for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/authors/elizabeth-lopatto">The Verge</a></li>
<li>Maja Spener:&nbsp;Associate Professor in Philosophy at the University of Birmingham. She is the author of&nbsp;<a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/55721">Introspection: First-Person Access in Science and Agency</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reshannereeder.com/">Reshanne Reeder</a>:&nbsp;Lecturer in Cognitive and Clinical Neuroscience at the University of Liverpool</li>
</ul>
Music featured (in order):
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glscfhJyZHo">Who Knows</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Daniel Caesar</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Hv5Bw-AUc">What Kind of Fool Am I</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Sammy Davis Jr.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps">Man in the Mirror</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Michael Jackson</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZL-XeZvv5k">There&rsquo;s No Telling</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Duncan Sheik</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBvVwgEjRsM">I&rsquo;m So Lonesome I Could Cry</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Cassandra Wilson</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/7qBLJCZZPi4">Pretty Little Picture</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Zero Mostel (Original Broadway Cast)</li>
</ul>

The Colin McEnroe Show is public radio’s most eclectic, eccentric weekday program. The best way to understand us is through the subjects we tackle: Neanderthals, tambourines, handshakes, the Iliad, snacks, ringtones, punk rock, Occam’s razor, Rasputin, houseflies, zippers. Are you sensing a pattern? If so, you should probably be in treatment. On Fridays, we try to stop thinking about what kind of ringtones Neanderthals would want to have and convene a panel called The Nose for an informal roundtable about the week in culture.

<a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/the-colin-mcenroe-show/about">The Colin McEnroe Show</a> is public radio’s most eclectic, eccentric weekday program. The best way to understand us is through the subjects we tackle: Neanderthals, tambourines, handshakes, the Iliad, snacks, ringtones, punk rock, Occam’s razor, Rasputin, houseflies, zippers. Are you sensing a pattern? If so, you should probably be in treatment. On Fridays, we try to stop thinking about what kind of ringtones Neanderthals would want to have and convene a panel called <a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/tags/the-nose">The Nose</a> for an informal roundtable about the week in culture.

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The value of introspection in an outward-looking world

We’ve been doing these shows where we don’t book any guests, where we fill the hour with your calls, calls about anything, everything. These shows are fun for us and they seem to be fun for you. So we’re doing another one. In other words: Give us a call during the 1 p.m. EDT hour. 888-720-9677.

Music featured (in order):
Any Old Fool – Thee Sacred Souls
What You Get – They Might Be Giants
TSOD – Blu & Exile
Dumbest Girl in the World – LØLØ
Blue Money – Van Morrison
CUT FOR TIME I Am Here – Tracy Wong, London Voices
Playground – flipturn
Till Your Mind is Shining (Bright-Side Mix) – Peter Gabriel

We&rsquo;ve been doing these shows where we don&rsquo;t book any guests, where we fill the hour with your calls, calls about anything, everything. These shows are fun for us and they seem to be fun for you. So we&rsquo;re doing another one. In other words: Give us a call during the 1 p.m. EDT hour. 888-720-9677.
Music featured (in order):
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7tPm8CaEQ">Any Old Fool</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Thee Sacred Souls</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r2oeuS3Vv8">What You Get</a>&nbsp;&ndash; They Might Be Giants</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcljqpMLCiY">TSOD</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Blu &amp; Exile</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJjqnXhLeM0">Dumbest Girl in the World</a>&nbsp;&ndash; L&Oslash;L&Oslash;</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dECPWpAlgaU">Blue Money</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Van Morrison</li>
<li>CUT FOR TIME&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbHIFRhZ4XQ">I Am Here</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Tracy Wong, London Voices</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyMHeSHH7wI">Playground</a>&nbsp;&ndash; flipturn</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KMiXJpSpnE">Till Your Mind is Shining (Bright-Side Mix)</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Peter Gabriel</li>
</ul>

All Calls: My mom heard 'Jesus Christ Superstar' and joined a cult

There's a new movie starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson called 'The Drama' that is sparking a lot of discourse around spoilers, movie marketing, and what should be revealed in advance. This hour, we offer a few spoilers about the movie in order to talk about all of that. Plus, a look at plot twists.

GUESTS:
Olivia Montminy: A student at College of the Holy Cross
Aisha Harris: Critic and host of Pop Culture Happy Hour at NPR. She is author of Wannabe: Reckonings with the Pop Culture that Shapes Me
James Hanley: Co-founder of Cinestudio at Trinity College.
Vera Tobin: Associate professor of Cognitive Science at Case Western Reserve University. She is author of Elements of Surprise: Our Mental Limits and the Satisfactions of Plot

Music featured (in order):
Don Giovanni, K. 527: Overture – W.A. Mozart as performed by Claudio Abbado and the Chamber Orchestra of Europe
Unexpected – Jonah Platt
Everybody Knows – Leonard Cohen
Brilliant Disguise – Melissa Black
Always the Last to Know – Del Amitri
If I Knew Then – Johnny Mercer and the Pied Pipers

There's a new movie starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson called 'The Drama' that is sparking a lot of discourse around spoilers, movie marketing, and what should be revealed in advance. This hour, we offer a few spoilers about the movie in order to talk about all of that. Plus, a look at plot twists.
GUESTS:
<ul>
<li>Olivia Montminy:&nbsp;A student at College of the Holy Cross</li>
<li>Aisha Harris:&nbsp;Critic and host of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/series/pop-culture-happy-hour">Pop Culture Happy Hour</a>&nbsp;at NPR. She is author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/wannabe-aisha-harris?variant=43129758548002">Wannabe: Reckonings with the Pop Culture that Shapes Me</a></li>
<li>James Hanley:&nbsp;Co-founder of Cinestudio at Trinity College.</li>
<li>Vera Tobin:&nbsp;Associate professor of Cognitive Science at Case Western Reserve University. She is author of&nbsp;<a href="https://veratobin.org/publications/elements-of-surprise/">Elements of Surprise: Our Mental Limits and the Satisfactions of Plot</a></li>
</ul>
Music featured (in order):
<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/9NSxOsb05LU">Don Giovanni, K. 527: Overture</a>&nbsp;&ndash; W.A. Mozart as performed by Claudio Abbado and the Chamber Orchestra of Europe</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/vUbV5Pwcx58">Unexpected</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Jonah Platt</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxd23UVID7k">Everybody Knows</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Leonard Cohen</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRFjzZhqJp8">Brilliant Disguise</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Melissa Black</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNM0iydkaCk">Always the Last to Know</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Del Amitri</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRoiB6q7uOo">If I Knew Then</a>&nbsp;&ndash; Johnny Mercer and the Pied Pipers</li>
</ul>

How critics and creatives grapple with spoilers and plot twists, like those in 'The Drama'

Headache symptoms can strike sufferers without warning, disabling them for even days at a time.

There have been nearly 4,000 years of documented headache disorders — and virtually everyone has had headaches — yet their underlying neurological cause is still unknown.

This hour, a look at the long history of headaches and the current science around and treatments for headaches. Plus: headaches in our literature and popular culture.

GUESTS:
Kathleen O’Shea: The editor of So Much More Than a Headache: Understanding Migraine Through Literature
Tom Zeller Jr.: The author of The Headache: The Science of a Most Confounding Condition and the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Undark

The Colin McEnroe Show is available as a podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, TuneIn, Listen Notes, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe and never miss an episode!

Subscribe to The Noseletter, an email compendium of merriment, secrets, and ancient wisdom brought to you by The Colin McEnroe Show.

Join the conversation on Facebook and Twitter.

Colin McEnroe and Dylan Reyes contributed to this show, which originally aired July 30, 2025.

Headache symptoms can strike sufferers without warning, disabling them for even days at a time.
There have been nearly 4,000 years of documented headache disorders &mdash; and virtually everyone has had headaches &mdash; yet their underlying neurological cause is still unknown.
This hour, a look at the long history of headaches and the current science around and treatments for headaches. Plus: headaches in our literature and popular culture.
GUESTS:
<ul>
<li>Kathleen O&rsquo;Shea: The editor of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kentstateuniversitypress.com/2019/more-than-headach/">So Much More Than a Headache: Understanding Migraine Through Literature</a></li>
<li>Tom Zeller Jr.: The author of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-headache-tom-zeller-jr">The Headache: The Science of a Most Confounding Condition</a>&nbsp;and the co-founder and editor-in-chief of&nbsp;<a href="https://undark.org/">Undark</a></li>
</ul>
The Colin McEnroe Show is available as a podcast on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-colin-mcenroe-show/id714179884">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0AXtqrzWounIoJyIqz003p">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9b6b3cee-f69b-4729-a78b-181f851d80e8/the-colin-mcenroe-show">Amazon Music</a>, <a href="https://tunein.com/podcasts/News--Politics-Podcasts/The-Colin-McEnroe-Show-p1208473/">TuneIn</a>, <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-colin-mcenroe-show-connecticut-public-lXR08dxQSM5/">Listen Notes</a>, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe and never miss an episode!
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Colin McEnroe and Dylan Reyes contributed to this show, which originally aired July 30, 2025.

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