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Right.

Right.

Season seventeen of the Clink.

Season seventeen of the Clink.

Wow, it's been a fantastic season and I have enjoyed every guest and I hope you have a big welcome to.

Wow, it's been a fantastic season and I have enjoyed every guest and I hope you have a big welcome to.

All new listeners.

All new listeners.

We are really grateful for everybody that tunes in every week. It's been phenomenal, an informative and absolutely enjoyable season today and today's is no different. I have two young men who are down in Sydney doing great things at the moment. These two young fellas have definitely got a history and a past that they have turned around now to better their future and to help so many through their actions. These young men's business is called the go Getters. Welcome to the Clink boys.

We are really grateful for everybody that tunes in every week. It's been phenomenal, an informative and absolutely enjoyable season today and today's is no different. I have two young men who are down in Sydney doing great things at the moment. These two young fellas have definitely got a history and a past that they have turned around now to better their future and to help so many through their actions. These young men's business is called the go Getters. Welcome to the Clink boys.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks mate.

Thanks mate.

First of all, why don't you both start off just by introducing because this is unusual. Normally I only run one guest and today I'm running two. So this is a little bit different from me here at the Clink. So we're going to have to learn this together and patiently get through it. But we will and I know it's going to be a great episode, one at a time.

First of all, why don't you both start off just by introducing because this is unusual. Normally I only run one guest and today I'm running two. So this is a little bit different from me here at the Clink. So we're going to have to learn this together and patiently get through it. But we will and I know it's going to be a great episode, one at a time.

Introduce yourselves.

Introduce yourselves.

My name is Jed Sewster. I'm the co founder of the Go Getters. I'm twenty five years old from the Central Coast and now I'm just here to help told you, and like he breaches out to youth connections like as a juvenile Justice centers, doc's children at the schools and all that kind of stuff like that, we run a group training session and anything we can do to help the youth for anyone in that fact, Like I'm here to help kind of thing, you know.

My name is Jed Sewster. I'm the co founder of the Go Getters. I'm twenty five years old from the Central Coast and now I'm just here to help told you, and like he breaches out to youth connections like as a juvenile Justice centers, doc's children at the schools and all that kind of stuff like that, we run a group training session and anything we can do to help the youth for anyone in that fact, Like I'm here to help kind of thing, you know.

Me and my name's Jake, and log Big all the boy's name as Milo, same thing, partnering the go Getters, just pretty much trying to change all the stuff pretty much we never had as a kid because we've lived through it. We've done it as a childhood from broken homes all the rest of us. So we just we know exactly what we didn't have and what needs to be done. So now we're just trying to focus all our time on that instead of doing the wrong things and going the wrong way. So it's blown up pretty good for us so far, so we just can get into it.

Me and my name's Jake, and log Big all the boy's name as Milo, same thing, partnering the go Getters, just pretty much trying to change all the stuff pretty much we never had as a kid because we've lived through it. We've done it as a childhood from broken homes all the rest of us. So we just we know exactly what we didn't have and what needs to be done. So now we're just trying to focus all our time on that instead of doing the wrong things and going the wrong way. So it's blown up pretty good for us so far, so we just can get into it.

Look, I really love what you stand for, and I've been following your path now for a little while. And a very dear friend brother of mine, I seen you guys network with Big Dave Walker. Big shout out to Dave, love your mate and everything you stand for, an absolute leader in the industry of health and wellness, and also to you know his passion around networking, connecting with people to better.

Look, I really love what you stand for, and I've been following your path now for a little while. And a very dear friend brother of mine, I seen you guys network with Big Dave Walker. Big shout out to Dave, love your mate and everything you stand for, an absolute leader in the industry of health and wellness, and also to you know his passion around networking, connecting with people to better.

The lives of others.

The lives of others.

I myself have just literally come back from Townsville doing very similar things which I would love to further talk to you guys about in reference to workshops working around our young people. I want to just start with we'll say Jed first, let's hear a bit of background, because obviously our guests out there won't know much about you guys, and I really feel that this platform is here to deliver not only stories of redemption, but giving people inspiration to be able to better themselves through their actions. What we've done with the Clink now is we've tried to incorporate people like yourselves that are successfully doing things off the back of hardships and traumas, that are enabling yourselves to be the best you can be and inspiring others out there to chase their dreams and believe in themselves because it's not easy and everyone's against you. I've just found, you know, like, we had massive meat year impact and connection in Townsville and it was such a positive. But yet on the backside of it, you know, there's a particular media that decided to go backwards and bring up myself and Jeremy's past and you know, run it as a co story to back off the positive and the facts of what's happening up there with the youth to let's say smoke screen.

I myself have just literally come back from Townsville doing very similar things which I would love to further talk to you guys about in reference to workshops working around our young people. I want to just start with we'll say Jed first, let's hear a bit of background, because obviously our guests out there won't know much about you guys, and I really feel that this platform is here to deliver not only stories of redemption, but giving people inspiration to be able to better themselves through their actions. What we've done with the Clink now is we've tried to incorporate people like yourselves that are successfully doing things off the back of hardships and traumas, that are enabling yourselves to be the best you can be and inspiring others out there to chase their dreams and believe in themselves because it's not easy and everyone's against you. I've just found, you know, like, we had massive meat year impact and connection in Townsville and it was such a positive. But yet on the backside of it, you know, there's a particular media that decided to go backwards and bring up myself and Jeremy's past and you know, run it as a co story to back off the positive and the facts of what's happening up there with the youth to let's say smoke screen.

It cover all the bullshit up because we called.

It cover all the bullshit up because we called.

Him out and it's all about now ex convicted fucking criminals and all this sort of shit. It is a tough slog I noticed one of your boys this week. He's a fighter, and you know he's had to experience that again with his license.

Him out and it's all about now ex convicted fucking criminals and all this sort of shit. It is a tough slog I noticed one of your boys this week. He's a fighter, and you know he's had to experience that again with his license.

Unfortunately.

Unfortunately.

I reached out to him and just wanted him to know that hanging in there because this is part of the journey. Everyone's against this Jed, How has it been for you growing up? And take us back to you know what it was like growing up and where.

I reached out to him and just wanted him to know that hanging in there because this is part of the journey. Everyone's against this Jed, How has it been for you growing up? And take us back to you know what it was like growing up and where.

Growing up like I had nothing at all, like bare minimum.

Growing up like I had nothing at all, like bare minimum.

You know, I was living in refugees, homeless since I was about ten years old, kind of thing, really defending on.

You know, I was living in refugees, homeless since I was about ten years old, kind of thing, really defending on.

My own, like since kind of thing.

My own, like since kind of thing.

You know.

You know.

I was gone from Kasha, sleeping on the streets, and my good mate Milo here like he he took me in when I was younger. That's why we've reconnected. He done seven years jail, so as soon as he got out, we kind of reconnected kind of thing, which was a blessing because.

I was gone from Kasha, sleeping on the streets, and my good mate Milo here like he he took me in when I was younger. That's why we've reconnected. He done seven years jail, so as soon as he got out, we kind of reconnected kind of thing, which was a blessing because.

He took me in under his wing when we were younger, and that kind of thing.

He took me in under his wing when we were younger, and that kind of thing.

You know.

You know.

So I never really had the structure all the tools to do life, but I learned by myself how to do that kind of thing, you know.

So I never really had the structure all the tools to do life, but I learned by myself how to do that kind of thing, you know.

So I'm trying to give back to these kids.

So I'm trying to give back to these kids.

Try giving the structure, Try giving the tools, the skills, whatever they need to learn how to live life kind of thing.

Try giving the structure, Try giving the tools, the skills, whatever they need to learn how to live life kind of thing.

You know. I just wanted to touch on something and this is important, just in what you just said. Then you and Mila have been made since you were younger.

You know. I just wanted to touch on something and this is important, just in what you just said. Then you and Mila have been made since you were younger.

Young fellas right, really so babies, Yeah, did you.

Young fellas right, really so babies, Yeah, did you.

Kick this off? Jed?

Kick this off? Jed?

And then Milo's come home and then you've together now worked because they're right there. Inspires me hearing that that's a true brother, a true man. And unfortunately, and I'm going to be very real to everybody listening out.

And then Milo's come home and then you've together now worked because they're right there. Inspires me hearing that that's a true brother, a true man. And unfortunately, and I'm going to be very real to everybody listening out.

There that might be living in a certain way.

There that might be living in a certain way.

I mean, we're not here to tell you how how to live and what you should do, and where need here to try and give you the guidance of from our lived experience of what doesn't work.

I mean, we're not here to tell you how how to live and what you should do, and where need here to try and give you the guidance of from our lived experience of what doesn't work.

We know it doesn't work.

We know it doesn't work.

One thing when you walk out those gates is nine times out of ten, unless you come from a really solid background.

One thing when you walk out those gates is nine times out of ten, unless you come from a really solid background.

Family, you got fucking nothing.

Family, you got fucking nothing.

That's right, have a mate there to actually give you a leg up that is so valuable and min It must be amazing for you to know that you've got that support there to then come into this space and become passionate and have a purpose, have drive, want to make change.

That's right, have a mate there to actually give you a leg up that is so valuable and min It must be amazing for you to know that you've got that support there to then come into this space and become passionate and have a purpose, have drive, want to make change.

That means a lot, you know what I mean, especially getting out for so long. You know exactly how it would be a lot of people go missing, you know what I mean, they just drop off. Plus getting out trying to train and all that, you don't really have much support, especially other people that have been such after a long time, they're all still doing the same shit. So it was sort of hard to make that change because you know, you get a lot of hate from the boys. Whatever. They start to start doing the right thing, but at the end of the day, I just seen the more I focus on myself and not that, the more further I got. So Whi's time to get onto that.

That means a lot, you know what I mean, especially getting out for so long. You know exactly how it would be a lot of people go missing, you know what I mean, they just drop off. Plus getting out trying to train and all that, you don't really have much support, especially other people that have been such after a long time, they're all still doing the same shit. So it was sort of hard to make that change because you know, you get a lot of hate from the boys. Whatever. They start to start doing the right thing, but at the end of the day, I just seen the more I focus on myself and not that, the more further I got. So Whi's time to get onto that.

Well, you talk about hate from the boys, and this is something that will also I think really important to touch on because we all have this assumption that you know, the phone's going to ring, the boys.

Well, you talk about hate from the boys, and this is something that will also I think really important to touch on because we all have this assumption that you know, the phone's going to ring, the boys.

Are going to be there, we're all sweet, and that it's.

Are going to be there, we're all sweet, and that it's.

All good, you know, the brothers, the lads, and it's just as someone who's spent fifteen years plus in by clubs, nearly fourteen years of my life locked up, one thing I learned very quickly is you're on your fucking own and at the end of the day, mate, when you come out and decide you know you want to make change, the phone doesn't ring, No one knocks on your door, there's no invites to lunch's dinner, come and hang out, come out of this whatever, it all stops, and you become alienated. I think that that right there, especially for young people, is such a hard thing to deal with because we all want to we all want to be called up, we all want to be fucking known that, Hey, I'll pick you up, let's go train, let's go a fee, let's go hang out, let's go check.

All good, you know, the brothers, the lads, and it's just as someone who's spent fifteen years plus in by clubs, nearly fourteen years of my life locked up, one thing I learned very quickly is you're on your fucking own and at the end of the day, mate, when you come out and decide you know you want to make change, the phone doesn't ring, No one knocks on your door, there's no invites to lunch's dinner, come and hang out, come out of this whatever, it all stops, and you become alienated. I think that that right there, especially for young people, is such a hard thing to deal with because we all want to we all want to be called up, we all want to be fucking known that, Hey, I'll pick you up, let's go train, let's go a fee, let's go hang out, let's go check.

The chicks, whatever, whatever you do.

The chicks, whatever, whatever you do.

But all of a sudden, it's like you're one out, you know, one out cell lockdown, and you've got nothing.

But all of a sudden, it's like you're one out, you know, one out cell lockdown, and you've got nothing.

You've got jad here.

You've got jad here.

You've come home too, and together now you're thriving, lifting each other up. And this is where I'm really proud to invite you, guys upon here is because you're living it, and I think it's so relevant to be able to give that experience to others out there. And you're young men. You know, like I'm an old boy now I'm nearly fifty, so for me, i'm a husband. You guys are the present, you're the leaders in your generation moving forward in this space. Let's just talk about that loneliness and how you overcome that, because I think.

You've come home too, and together now you're thriving, lifting each other up. And this is where I'm really proud to invite you, guys upon here is because you're living it, and I think it's so relevant to be able to give that experience to others out there. And you're young men. You know, like I'm an old boy now I'm nearly fifty, so for me, i'm a husband. You guys are the present, you're the leaders in your generation moving forward in this space. Let's just talk about that loneliness and how you overcome that, because I think.

It's really relative.

It's really relative.

Well, most of the time, you just need like a lot of support, and you needn't want to make the change to begin with, because a lot of boys they get offered help, whether it's inside, outside, whatever, and they just they don't want to break people's hearts. They just say, yeah, let's go, and most of the time they're not ready for it yet. So you've got to be willing to actually put the work into make the change from the start, because a lot of boys just fuck up opportunities that they get, but after that, like they alienated. You just got to have the support and you have to be just headstrong because a lot of people that's where they break, like that's where they fold when they start getting left on their own and then they start wanting the attention, they start missing the boys, and that's where a lot of that comes into the emotion, and then you end up folding and going back to that same old lifestyle. Pretty much. It takes the hardship to realize. You know, you've got to go through the times where you actually did need someone and no one was there for you to realize, like, I'd rather be on my own because I was left on my own when I was putting in the effort for them people anyway, so I may as well take all that effort I was put it in for them and put it in for myself because the end of the day, I was on my own e rither. So the only one that's going to help you is yourself really at the end of the day. And you just got to yeah, pretty much, take the boys that I've done it, and the people that are just talking about it, and the people that have your best interests at heart, and the end of the day, most people know in their chest who that really is, whether they want to take it on board.

Well, most of the time, you just need like a lot of support, and you needn't want to make the change to begin with, because a lot of boys they get offered help, whether it's inside, outside, whatever, and they just they don't want to break people's hearts. They just say, yeah, let's go, and most of the time they're not ready for it yet. So you've got to be willing to actually put the work into make the change from the start, because a lot of boys just fuck up opportunities that they get, but after that, like they alienated. You just got to have the support and you have to be just headstrong because a lot of people that's where they break, like that's where they fold when they start getting left on their own and then they start wanting the attention, they start missing the boys, and that's where a lot of that comes into the emotion, and then you end up folding and going back to that same old lifestyle. Pretty much. It takes the hardship to realize. You know, you've got to go through the times where you actually did need someone and no one was there for you to realize, like, I'd rather be on my own because I was left on my own when I was putting in the effort for them people anyway, so I may as well take all that effort I was put it in for them and put it in for myself because the end of the day, I was on my own e rither. So the only one that's going to help you is yourself really at the end of the day. And you just got to yeah, pretty much, take the boys that I've done it, and the people that are just talking about it, and the people that have your best interests at heart, and the end of the day, most people know in their chest who that really is, whether they want to take it on board.

Ll night, I think, you know, surrounding ourselves with like minded people. It's a little bit cliche, but it's so true, you know, you guys, And I must say, if the growth that I've seen from the outside looking in has been phenomenal, you know, you should be very very proud of yourselves. And we'll definitely get into the whole business side and what you're achieving, because.

Ll night, I think, you know, surrounding ourselves with like minded people. It's a little bit cliche, but it's so true, you know, you guys, And I must say, if the growth that I've seen from the outside looking in has been phenomenal, you know, you should be very very proud of yourselves. And we'll definitely get into the whole business side and what you're achieving, because.

I think it's phenomenal.

I think it's phenomenal.

But for now, I want to really give our listeners that background story because you know, people often leave little comments, and you know, all these little people worriers and ghosts, and you know, they'll talk shit about the fact that the clink might. You know, are you praising this? We don't praise anybody's criminality. It's just life. This is a podcast that gives people, real people, an ability to connect with people like ourselves, to share our stories and all the other guests that have been here. With that comes a lot of trauma, criminality, jail time, drug addiction. These are things that have to be spoken about because without that backstory, what the fuck does it matter what you're doing today, because no one's going to actually connect and feel relevant to your connection if you truly haven't lived.

But for now, I want to really give our listeners that background story because you know, people often leave little comments, and you know, all these little people worriers and ghosts, and you know, they'll talk shit about the fact that the clink might. You know, are you praising this? We don't praise anybody's criminality. It's just life. This is a podcast that gives people, real people, an ability to connect with people like ourselves, to share our stories and all the other guests that have been here. With that comes a lot of trauma, criminality, jail time, drug addiction. These are things that have to be spoken about because without that backstory, what the fuck does it matter what you're doing today, because no one's going to actually connect and feel relevant to your connection if you truly haven't lived.

It's so empowering.

It's so empowering.

I think seeing what you guys are doing, and as I said, I'll keep going back. You only young men, and I respectfully say that your men, but I'm just speaking. This is your time, this is your generation, and what you're doing you really are leading. And I just want to give you, mate, the utmost respect and credit, because I think it's fantastic. Jed, you obviously had a vision and an idea.

I think seeing what you guys are doing, and as I said, I'll keep going back. You only young men, and I respectfully say that your men, but I'm just speaking. This is your time, this is your generation, and what you're doing you really are leading. And I just want to give you, mate, the utmost respect and credit, because I think it's fantastic. Jed, you obviously had a vision and an idea.

I mean, Milo's come home.

I mean, Milo's come home.

Your partners in this wonderful movement, I'll call it if I can. What made this want to be something that you would have put your passion and join into.

Your partners in this wonderful movement, I'll call it if I can. What made this want to be something that you would have put your passion and join into.

I appreciate your words, just firstly, what you've just said to us. It's just always been my passion, you know. Just bring all the boys together kind of thing. Look, you can call it a brotherhood of any a family community, whatever you want to call it. Well, we're just all one kind of thing. You know, we all gel together.

I appreciate your words, just firstly, what you've just said to us. It's just always been my passion, you know. Just bring all the boys together kind of thing. Look, you can call it a brotherhood of any a family community, whatever you want to call it. Well, we're just all one kind of thing. You know, we all gel together.

Well when you have women, you have Oh you've got everybody there. It's awesome.

Well when you have women, you have Oh you've got everybody there. It's awesome.

We've got mums, dad's kids. Yeah, I noticed even coming along.

We've got mums, dad's kids. Yeah, I noticed even coming along.

You know, animals are all like, we love this stuff kind of thing. You know, that's what we live off. We strive off this stuff. Everyone just bonding together kind of thing.

You know, animals are all like, we love this stuff kind of thing. You know, that's what we live off. We strive off this stuff. Everyone just bonding together kind of thing.

You know.

You know.

Drop but everyone's egos fucked, the egos off at the door. Don't no one brings shit to my like my events kind of thing, you know, just.

Drop but everyone's egos fucked, the egos off at the door. Don't no one brings shit to my like my events kind of thing, you know, just.

So you create a very neutral space where everybody's welcome, no judgment and.

So you create a very neutral space where everybody's welcome, no judgment and.

Bullshit free zone.

Bullshit free zone.

You know, there's no ship there, so everyone's having a laugh, everyone's just having a good time. You know, everyone's trying to help each other, like improving life kind of thing. Gradually, just elevate every single day to attack your goals, attack everything, you know, go against all odds.

You know, there's no ship there, so everyone's having a laugh, everyone's just having a good time. You know, everyone's trying to help each other, like improving life kind of thing. Gradually, just elevate every single day to attack your goals, attack everything, you know, go against all odds.

Because especially like when you have the egos now and they don't get left to the door, a lot of people's self esteem gets affected because of that. So a lot of people that come in with their egos and want to show pony stuff like that, there's a lot of other people in the back end that no one really sees. They lose their motivation, they lose their drive just from someone's little actions. They don't really mean much to anyone else. So we try and.

Because especially like when you have the egos now and they don't get left to the door, a lot of people's self esteem gets affected because of that. So a lot of people that come in with their egos and want to show pony stuff like that, there's a lot of other people in the back end that no one really sees. They lose their motivation, they lose their drive just from someone's little actions. They don't really mean much to anyone else. So we try and.

It's funny, isn't it.

It's funny, isn't it.

Yeah, And I think that's so relevant because we're all so unique, you know, and we all come in all different shapes and sizes, colors and creed. A non judgmental safe place is something that we need, you know. We, as I said, were up in Townsville just recently working with all the community up there, and the diversity within community up there between the ages of twelve and seventeen was just crazy. I've never seen so much diversity in such a small space. And it isn't that it's a beautiful place up there, but it's a very small I basically call it a redneck community and I love the place, but people need to wake the fuck up because you know, their attitudes up there and how they see what's going on up there.

Yeah, And I think that's so relevant because we're all so unique, you know, and we all come in all different shapes and sizes, colors and creed. A non judgmental safe place is something that we need, you know. We, as I said, were up in Townsville just recently working with all the community up there, and the diversity within community up there between the ages of twelve and seventeen was just crazy. I've never seen so much diversity in such a small space. And it isn't that it's a beautiful place up there, but it's a very small I basically call it a redneck community and I love the place, but people need to wake the fuck up because you know, their attitudes up there and how they see what's going on up there.

Is just all politically driven. It's all bullshit.

Is just all politically driven. It's all bullshit.

And I know that New South Wales has you know, very strict laws around consorting and you know people coming together and trying to better themselves as well.

And I know that New South Wales has you know, very strict laws around consorting and you know people coming together and trying to better themselves as well.

So I know that you know the flack you boys would cop and especially.

So I know that you know the flack you boys would cop and especially.

You know, like struggling to get I guess blue cards all the boxes that you've got a tick.

You know, like struggling to get I guess blue cards all the boxes that you've got a tick.

Yeah, you spoke earlier about getting in a jjson.

Yeah, you spoke earlier about getting in a jjson.

You've an our Justice Centers Joey Kwan, who's a great mate, who's done amazing things out there in that space, and the boys have been going in for quite some time now with their organization working with young people through fitness and wellness programs. Is this something that you want to also do but in your own way and delivery anything.

You've an our Justice Centers Joey Kwan, who's a great mate, who's done amazing things out there in that space, and the boys have been going in for quite some time now with their organization working with young people through fitness and wellness programs. Is this something that you want to also do but in your own way and delivery anything.

That branches out to that kind of thing, you know, we're all for it. Anything that's going to help another person, you know, we're all for it.

That branches out to that kind of thing, you know, we're all for it. Anything that's going to help another person, you know, we're all for it.

So what have mean some of the hurdles Jed like, because look, let's be honest, these things don't come easy and it is so easy to go fuck it, it's too hard. Everyone doesn't know. You've got, as I said, you've got to tick boxes. And because of the way the politics are today and the way that the laws are and everything around this space, they're making it harder for anybody with criminal history, especially current. In the last four or five years, I myself have fucking me and dragged through the ringer. You know, my last true conviction was twenty ten, so we're talking fifteen years ago. Flip the coin, and there's still a battle that I'm battling. But it doesn't mean to say I'm fucking guilty of anything. It just means I'm still going through a process from many, many years ago. You boys have to deal with young people coming out obviously on parole, probation from court, suspended sentences.

So what have mean some of the hurdles Jed like, because look, let's be honest, these things don't come easy and it is so easy to go fuck it, it's too hard. Everyone doesn't know. You've got, as I said, you've got to tick boxes. And because of the way the politics are today and the way that the laws are and everything around this space, they're making it harder for anybody with criminal history, especially current. In the last four or five years, I myself have fucking me and dragged through the ringer. You know, my last true conviction was twenty ten, so we're talking fifteen years ago. Flip the coin, and there's still a battle that I'm battling. But it doesn't mean to say I'm fucking guilty of anything. It just means I'm still going through a process from many, many years ago. You boys have to deal with young people coming out obviously on parole, probation from court, suspended sentences.

Whatever it might be.

Whatever it might be.

How does that work and how do you work around these sort of things to bring those people that really need that support into your space.

How does that work and how do you work around these sort of things to bring those people that really need that support into your space.

Yeah, well, look at at the end of the day, no rest, no reward kind of thing. You know, you just got to keep risking it for the biscuit kind of thing. We haven't meet every single day with different communities, different people and all that you get knocked back to a few because of you come on the record, you know, but you might get that other few, you know, so even if you've got the other few, you can still move forward. Like we're not going to stop just because we've got knocked back buying company kind of thing, you know, one hundred percent.

Yeah, well, look at at the end of the day, no rest, no reward kind of thing. You know, you just got to keep risking it for the biscuit kind of thing. We haven't meet every single day with different communities, different people and all that you get knocked back to a few because of you come on the record, you know, but you might get that other few, you know, so even if you've got the other few, you can still move forward. Like we're not going to stop just because we've got knocked back buying company kind of thing, you know, one hundred percent.

Like we even had a little experience not too long ago where they were all sweet about it, invited us to the company all the rest, and then only one or two people had something to say about our pomenal history. So therefore they knocked at back. But like, don't get me wrong, there is them days where we say fuck it and then there's go two three hours by and we go, no, fuck it, start doing it again, like I've been out earlier year now my children Working with Children shacks is still going now still I'm going still hasn't been approved. That's been in the works for about ten months still now, so it won't.

Like we even had a little experience not too long ago where they were all sweet about it, invited us to the company all the rest, and then only one or two people had something to say about our pomenal history. So therefore they knocked at back. But like, don't get me wrong, there is them days where we say fuck it and then there's go two three hours by and we go, no, fuck it, start doing it again, like I've been out earlier year now my children Working with Children shacks is still going now still I'm going still hasn't been approved. That's been in the works for about ten months still now, so it won't.

Come anytime soon either. Brother. That's the problem myl is.

Come anytime soon either. Brother. That's the problem myl is.

Look, there is the loopholes, and use them, you know, as long as you're besides someone.

Look, there is the loopholes, and use them, you know, as long as you're besides someone.

I mean, it's the same as me, you know, Like.

I mean, it's the same as me, you know, Like.

I can't get a blue card obviously at the moment because of my court proceedings and so on. And that doesn't mean to say we're bad people. It just means that's a political side. But because of whatever, you know, the government deems to be unfit. Yet we bring so much value to the table, So help others to put.

I can't get a blue card obviously at the moment because of my court proceedings and so on. And that doesn't mean to say we're bad people. It just means that's a political side. But because of whatever, you know, the government deems to be unfit. Yet we bring so much value to the table, So help others to put.

All people love.

All people love.

Just bringing up the past and just judging to buy who you were kind of thing, you know, not even who you were, just what you've done and what you've been through people are.

Just bringing up the past and just judging to buy who you were kind of thing, you know, not even who you were, just what you've done and what you've been through people are.

I think it's really relevant, Jed, And I think that you know, like when you talk and I'm going to touch on this so you know, for everyone out there, please don't take this for anything than what I'm speaking and the facts, and that is, you know, you've got your scum pedophilia out there that are just so accepted as.

I think it's really relevant, Jed, And I think that you know, like when you talk and I'm going to touch on this so you know, for everyone out there, please don't take this for anything than what I'm speaking and the facts, and that is, you know, you've got your scum pedophilia out there that are just so accepted as.

The fucking norm.

The fucking norm.

You know, all these hideous crimes that just get swept under the carpet. But yet get a couple of knock about blokes, you know what I mean, might have been been involved in some sort of gang activity, club life, okay, you've got done deal and drugs, stolen cars, fucking stick up.

You know, all these hideous crimes that just get swept under the carpet. But yet get a couple of knock about blokes, you know what I mean, might have been been involved in some sort of gang activity, club life, okay, you've got done deal and drugs, stolen cars, fucking stick up.

Whatever it might be.

Whatever it might be.

When I speak and milo, you can relate to this obviously, especially not so long coming out. You know, the mentality of criminal these days has changed. The acceptance of you know, the old school crim has changed, and I don't like to even label us as crims anymore. But this is this is where okay, but this is who we are, This is our past. I don't care. You young fellas today are going through an even tougher period than blokes like myself, where on the back end of something that's really sort of a movement coming forward, which you guys are going to have to live with going into the future, with all these sort of political agendas and so on.

When I speak and milo, you can relate to this obviously, especially not so long coming out. You know, the mentality of criminal these days has changed. The acceptance of you know, the old school crim has changed, and I don't like to even label us as crims anymore. But this is this is where okay, but this is who we are, This is our past. I don't care. You young fellas today are going through an even tougher period than blokes like myself, where on the back end of something that's really sort of a movement coming forward, which you guys are going to have to live with going into the future, with all these sort of political agendas and so on.

I mean, how does it make you feel within yourselves now?

I mean, how does it make you feel within yourselves now?

This day and age is like pretty tough doing what we're kind of doing. Like that's why we started this, because it's just going out of control of the youth.

This day and age is like pretty tough doing what we're kind of doing. Like that's why we started this, because it's just going out of control of the youth.

It's just going crazy.

It's just going crazy.

You know, there's stabbing every single day, Like you hear something on the news every single day happening in your neighborhood kind of thing, you know. So I'm just encouraging, like all the youth just get in the gym, man, come join us. Like I'm even charging for free, like seventeen under, like they're for free. Just come in, come join us, I'll pick you up. I'll do whatever I have to do. Just come along and kind of thing, you know, because you're just getting out of hand, Like every single day there's something happening.

You know, there's stabbing every single day, Like you hear something on the news every single day happening in your neighborhood kind of thing, you know. So I'm just encouraging, like all the youth just get in the gym, man, come join us. Like I'm even charging for free, like seventeen under, like they're for free. Just come in, come join us, I'll pick you up. I'll do whatever I have to do. Just come along and kind of thing, you know, because you're just getting out of hand, Like every single day there's something happening.

There's a big thing that I'm massive on. It's a solution, a solution to the problem. You know, we have to hear, we have to listen to our young people. You guys are a voice for the young people. And your actions are speaking louder than your words. Just hearing you say what you just said, looking at you and when you're speaking the passion within you. I'll pick them up, you know, I'll do it for free. Your time is valuable, Your time is money. Your time you still need to provide for family, You still need to put food on the table, on the roof, over your head. But yet you're willing to sacrifice all that to make change.

There's a big thing that I'm massive on. It's a solution, a solution to the problem. You know, we have to hear, we have to listen to our young people. You guys are a voice for the young people. And your actions are speaking louder than your words. Just hearing you say what you just said, looking at you and when you're speaking the passion within you. I'll pick them up, you know, I'll do it for free. Your time is valuable, Your time is money. Your time you still need to provide for family, You still need to put food on the table, on the roof, over your head. But yet you're willing to sacrifice all that to make change.

I know what it feels like to be in their position and kind of thing, you know, Like I've obviously had nothing there to look forward to kind of things, so I didn't know what was happening in the next minute, Like what's going to happen next, Like what do I do kind of thing, you know. So I'm trying to be not a father figure, but just like someone that can they can come to kind of thing.

I know what it feels like to be in their position and kind of thing, you know, Like I've obviously had nothing there to look forward to kind of things, so I didn't know what was happening in the next minute, Like what's going to happen next, Like what do I do kind of thing, you know. So I'm trying to be not a father figure, but just like someone that can they can come to kind of thing.

You know.

You know.

I'm trying to give something that I don't didn't have, but now I know what it's like not to have it.

I'm trying to give something that I don't didn't have, but now I know what it's like not to have it.

So I'm just I'm here for them kind of thing.

So I'm just I'm here for them kind of thing.

You know. We just want to put their best interests, you know what I mean. We have their best interests at heart, because that's all that matters at the end of the day. We want them to be comfortable, to be able to come to us with their shit, you know what I mean, and then know that we're actually going to give them the right answers, you know what I mean. Not the streets totally different.

You know. We just want to put their best interests, you know what I mean. We have their best interests at heart, because that's all that matters at the end of the day. We want them to be comfortable, to be able to come to us with their shit, you know what I mean, and then know that we're actually going to give them the right answers, you know what I mean. Not the streets totally different.

The streets of what have made us. It's brought us to where we are today. So you know, like when we talk of like people say to me, you know, do you do you live with regret that? And I can't say that.

The streets of what have made us. It's brought us to where we are today. So you know, like when we talk of like people say to me, you know, do you do you live with regret that? And I can't say that.

That's what I really can't.

That's what I really can't.

I don't regret anything that's happened to me in my life because mentally it's just made me invincible kind of thing.

I don't regret anything that's happened to me in my life because mentally it's just made me invincible kind of thing.

You know.

You know.

Nothing, Well, we're.

Nothing, Well, we're.

Here now, we're now having this conversation, taking action, looking for ways of being able to support people who are starting to go through those stages we've already been through. We couldn't do this without having the life that we've lived, whether it be good, bad, or ugly, and we can play the victim and we can sit back and say, fuck with shit.

Here now, we're now having this conversation, taking action, looking for ways of being able to support people who are starting to go through those stages we've already been through. We couldn't do this without having the life that we've lived, whether it be good, bad, or ugly, and we can play the victim and we can sit back and say, fuck with shit.

You know, this happened to me. That happened to me, you know, and it really is.

You know, this happened to me. That happened to me, you know, and it really is.

There's some horrific things that you know, if you go back and listen to any of the episodes through the Clink, out of over two hundred and fourteen episodes, there is some traumatically just heartbreaking stories. But on the back end of it is some amazing people who have really been able to you know, turn that around and basically give their hardship in a positive way to guide others. And you know, you speak of not being able to sort of have family support and living on the streets and so on. What better person to be able then turn around and actually say to someone brother, I gotcha, I'm here to listen, I understand and letting them be heard.

There's some horrific things that you know, if you go back and listen to any of the episodes through the Clink, out of over two hundred and fourteen episodes, there is some traumatically just heartbreaking stories. But on the back end of it is some amazing people who have really been able to you know, turn that around and basically give their hardship in a positive way to guide others. And you know, you speak of not being able to sort of have family support and living on the streets and so on. What better person to be able then turn around and actually say to someone brother, I gotcha, I'm here to listen, I understand and letting them be heard.

Yeah, definitely a blessing for me. I'm grateful for going through it so young.

Yeah, definitely a blessing for me. I'm grateful for going through it so young.

Kind of thing.

Kind of thing.

I feel like I've there's not much I can't go through it, Like right now, I've been through it all, so nothing's going to break me kind of thing, you know. So just keep moving forward and keep attacking every single day.

I feel like I've there's not much I can't go through it, Like right now, I've been through it all, so nothing's going to break me kind of thing, you know. So just keep moving forward and keep attacking every single day.

With yourself. You still struggling with parole or anything like that.

With yourself. You still struggling with parole or anything like that.

Yeah, Like I still got a couple of years, I think a year and a half after parole, but they've just canceled my supervision. That's good. So then because I've been behaved for years, all the drug tests passed, so and so, community service and everything else. So I'm off my supervision now unless they call me in for some reason. But that's all still an issue. But at the end of the day, it's all that comes with it at the end of the day. Just give you a like moreever rewards at the end of the day when you've done it, you know what I mean, Because everyone on any side street tried to stop you, and you still just smash through and got it done. So that's good. But it's like I said before, like you said as well, with the trauma, that's what makes it, you know what I mean. The trauma is what opened our eyes and sort of now give us the opportunity to not let kids go through that trauma because we know what they needed when we can see the early warning science to stop that to begin with. So now we're just trying to stop out of the young age before they have to go through all the shit that we went through ten years plus worth a shit. Stop all that beforehand and just give them the tools they need to just steer the right way and just run their own race, try their own trail.

Yeah, Like I still got a couple of years, I think a year and a half after parole, but they've just canceled my supervision. That's good. So then because I've been behaved for years, all the drug tests passed, so and so, community service and everything else. So I'm off my supervision now unless they call me in for some reason. But that's all still an issue. But at the end of the day, it's all that comes with it at the end of the day. Just give you a like moreever rewards at the end of the day when you've done it, you know what I mean, Because everyone on any side street tried to stop you, and you still just smash through and got it done. So that's good. But it's like I said before, like you said as well, with the trauma, that's what makes it, you know what I mean. The trauma is what opened our eyes and sort of now give us the opportunity to not let kids go through that trauma because we know what they needed when we can see the early warning science to stop that to begin with. So now we're just trying to stop out of the young age before they have to go through all the shit that we went through ten years plus worth a shit. Stop all that beforehand and just give them the tools they need to just steer the right way and just run their own race, try their own trail.

I guess mil I've got a question for you too, and I think it's relevant, and you know, it would be something that a lot of people out there may be questioning. In fact, those that are on parole that are listening to the clink today or going through the court system. Are you finding you're out here, you're working your clean You've just said for over a year you've been able to prove that you're completely staying away from any criminal acts or ways of life. Are you finding that parole is supportive of what you're doing or do you still find that they're trying to be objective and really sort of always trying to ah yeah, yeah, yeah, but in the back of their mind just waiting for you to fuck up.

I guess mil I've got a question for you too, and I think it's relevant, and you know, it would be something that a lot of people out there may be questioning. In fact, those that are on parole that are listening to the clink today or going through the court system. Are you finding you're out here, you're working your clean You've just said for over a year you've been able to prove that you're completely staying away from any criminal acts or ways of life. Are you finding that parole is supportive of what you're doing or do you still find that they're trying to be objective and really sort of always trying to ah yeah, yeah, yeah, but in the back of their mind just waiting for you to fuck up.

To be honest, I reckon it all depends on the officer, you know, it depends on your parole officer whether they've copped enough shit and actually still care about the job or whether they're just doing it for the paycheck. So, like, I've had pretty much shit running process since. I mean I've had four different ones in one year, so they're pretty much no fuck all around me. But there's been two that are really connected. We've been really supportive, always been there, stuff like that. But then there's a couple of other ones that's sort of like would rather play it safe to keep you safe and keep you where you're at, just to know that you're safe, instead of trying to like let you move forward. So then one day no one has to worry about if you're safe and worry about you, you know what I mean. You can just know that you're sweet and then your life's done with that you can move on. So there's some that, like even it was only four months ago, three months ago that I got off the BUBE program because I was on that injection when I got off all the other.

To be honest, I reckon it all depends on the officer, you know, it depends on your parole officer whether they've copped enough shit and actually still care about the job or whether they're just doing it for the paycheck. So, like, I've had pretty much shit running process since. I mean I've had four different ones in one year, so they're pretty much no fuck all around me. But there's been two that are really connected. We've been really supportive, always been there, stuff like that. But then there's a couple of other ones that's sort of like would rather play it safe to keep you safe and keep you where you're at, just to know that you're safe, instead of trying to like let you move forward. So then one day no one has to worry about if you're safe and worry about you, you know what I mean. You can just know that you're sweet and then your life's done with that you can move on. So there's some that, like even it was only four months ago, three months ago that I got off the BUBE program because I was on that injection when I got off all the other.

Drugs, Well done, mate, Yeah, that's huge congrassation.

Drugs, Well done, mate, Yeah, that's huge congrassation.

I never thought I would, to be honest, even when I got out, all my mates are you're going to jump off and now you're out of jail and stuff, and I just said, oh, sort of know, because I sort of thought of that as a safety net, but just all the side effects from it were sort of doing more hard than good. So I just said, nah, fuck it. But I knew the prople off straight at the time, they would have sort of approved of it. They would have said, oh, nah, I think you should drop down your dose. I think you should wean yourself off it, or I think you shouldn't get off it at all, just to keep yourself safe.

I never thought I would, to be honest, even when I got out, all my mates are you're going to jump off and now you're out of jail and stuff, and I just said, oh, sort of know, because I sort of thought of that as a safety net, but just all the side effects from it were sort of doing more hard than good. So I just said, nah, fuck it. But I knew the prople off straight at the time, they would have sort of approved of it. They would have said, oh, nah, I think you should drop down your dose. I think you should wean yourself off it, or I think you shouldn't get off it at all, just to keep yourself safe.

So I'm so sorry, just sorry.

So I'm so sorry, just sorry.

I need to ask this because this is really good. Not a lot of people will understand and know this, So for those that don't understand, the bube is a preventative drug that basically is given to people with addiction to enable them to assist in not using Basically, that's in a nutshell. Now, I get the fact of you wanting to move forward in your life, put that behind you, and as part of that is to let go of that move forward in a healthy and positive way. We used to talk about with method and the liquid handcuffs. That's just what it was called, and it was the way that, yes, the addiction was very real for those that were using, but it also was a controlling thing for parole, jail's government to.

I need to ask this because this is really good. Not a lot of people will understand and know this, So for those that don't understand, the bube is a preventative drug that basically is given to people with addiction to enable them to assist in not using Basically, that's in a nutshell. Now, I get the fact of you wanting to move forward in your life, put that behind you, and as part of that is to let go of that move forward in a healthy and positive way. We used to talk about with method and the liquid handcuffs. That's just what it was called, and it was the way that, yes, the addiction was very real for those that were using, but it also was a controlling thing for parole, jail's government to.

Be able to keep track, know where you were.

Be able to keep track, know where you were.

You knew where you does had to be gotten and how it all worked, and you basically couldn't just step away from the program. If you did, then you were every chance of farure you'll go at the job you just said along the lines parole you could possibly say no that I want you to get off it. This is your body, this is your life, this is you trying to better your life. And this is something that I think is really good to hear from somebody who's lived it. How the fuck does somebody have the right to tell you to stop putting something in your body.

You knew where you does had to be gotten and how it all worked, and you basically couldn't just step away from the program. If you did, then you were every chance of farure you'll go at the job you just said along the lines parole you could possibly say no that I want you to get off it. This is your body, this is your life, this is you trying to better your life. And this is something that I think is really good to hear from somebody who's lived it. How the fuck does somebody have the right to tell you to stop putting something in your body.

I understand it's a temptation. Then that may occur.

I understand it's a temptation. Then that may occur.

I understand that there's going to be a lot of hardship, and you know your body, you mentally, physically. But if you can show that you're genuinely wanting to step away, you've got a network around you, like you do, you're involved in some great, really positive sort of environment. Why the fuck would you not want to see someone off the pube exactly right?

I understand that there's going to be a lot of hardship, and you know your body, you mentally, physically. But if you can show that you're genuinely wanting to step away, you've got a network around you, like you do, you're involved in some great, really positive sort of environment. Why the fuck would you not want to see someone off the pube exactly right?

Like that's where I sort of get it, Like they don't they want to control you with the stuff, like even if I might fail, Like you can see genuinely my heart that I'm willing to have a crack, let me go, you know what I mean? Like, and I knew that, So I just I ran it. I got I got off it. I had messages off the clinic, off the everywhere else trying to say, oh, you get your appointment, your appointment. I just ignored everyone. I just didn't go. I didn't even tell my partner as well. I waited until literally a month after till I was meant to pick up my dos and it breached. You breached you ordered? You know, no, no of none of my court ordered. Mine is just like under their opinion, you know what I mean. So none of my stuff's court ordered. I made that choice in jail myself because I was getting the trouble'll say, grow stuff, but I just say this, don't need to get fuck it all off? So and yeah, so I just waited. I didn't tell my partner even for a month, and she said to me, isn't an injection coming up, and I said, you know, I haven't had it for two months. She said what, And I said, I haven't taken it for two months, and she was sort of horrified. And I knew that. So even when I went in and told Parole, it just proved everything I thought, because even when I said it to her, I said, I jumped off my injection, and she thought that I'd been jumped off recently in the last couple of three or four days, And straight away she jumped down my throat and said, are you sure, like, are you sure you want to jump off it, because then.

Like that's where I sort of get it, Like they don't they want to control you with the stuff, like even if I might fail, Like you can see genuinely my heart that I'm willing to have a crack, let me go, you know what I mean? Like, and I knew that, So I just I ran it. I got I got off it. I had messages off the clinic, off the everywhere else trying to say, oh, you get your appointment, your appointment. I just ignored everyone. I just didn't go. I didn't even tell my partner as well. I waited until literally a month after till I was meant to pick up my dos and it breached. You breached you ordered? You know, no, no of none of my court ordered. Mine is just like under their opinion, you know what I mean. So none of my stuff's court ordered. I made that choice in jail myself because I was getting the trouble'll say, grow stuff, but I just say this, don't need to get fuck it all off? So and yeah, so I just waited. I didn't tell my partner even for a month, and she said to me, isn't an injection coming up, and I said, you know, I haven't had it for two months. She said what, And I said, I haven't taken it for two months, and she was sort of horrified. And I knew that. So even when I went in and told Parole, it just proved everything I thought, because even when I said it to her, I said, I jumped off my injection, and she thought that I'd been jumped off recently in the last couple of three or four days, And straight away she jumped down my throat and said, are you sure, like, are you sure you want to jump off it, because then.

You're then vulnerable. Yeah, you're in this short term space. Will he use? Will he not use? It's going to be too.

You're then vulnerable. Yeah, you're in this short term space. Will he use? Will he not use? It's going to be too.

Hard, exactly right. So I understand her point of view. She's just trying to like cut it short and make sure I'm safe. I understand that. But in that I can't grow, like I can't grow as a person and then actually get rid of that shoot out of my life and fuck it off. So I got rid of all that, and now it's been three or four months off at all, no issue. So but yeah, it's exactly like you said, one hundred percent. That's sometimes it all depends on the officer at the end of the day, whether they actually care about your messages and they want you to succeed or they just want you out of jail. It's as different.

Hard, exactly right. So I understand her point of view. She's just trying to like cut it short and make sure I'm safe. I understand that. But in that I can't grow, like I can't grow as a person and then actually get rid of that shoot out of my life and fuck it off. So I got rid of all that, and now it's been three or four months off at all, no issue. So but yeah, it's exactly like you said, one hundred percent. That's sometimes it all depends on the officer at the end of the day, whether they actually care about your messages and they want you to succeed or they just want you out of jail. It's as different.

Yeah, and thank you for being vulnerable and honest here, brother, because you didn't have to disclose that and it's none of anyone's business, you know what I mean. So that just goes to show how open and transparent you're willing to be to better yourself and sharing your life with others because people judge. It's as simple as that, you know, and someone I know, you know for them today, the Bube, the Dome whatever it was.

Yeah, and thank you for being vulnerable and honest here, brother, because you didn't have to disclose that and it's none of anyone's business, you know what I mean. So that just goes to show how open and transparent you're willing to be to better yourself and sharing your life with others because people judge. It's as simple as that, you know, and someone I know, you know for them today, the Bube, the Dome whatever it was.

Ah, Yeah, they're just a junkie, you know what I mean. That's all there is to it.

Ah, Yeah, they're just a junkie, you know what I mean. That's all there is to it.

That's the distigma attached with it, and you're just basically written off as another piece of shit.

That's the distigma attached with it, and you're just basically written off as another piece of shit.

In the system. So, firstly, I feel that that's.

In the system. So, firstly, I feel that that's.

Massive in growth for you to be able to have this conversation publicly speak openly. Congratulations on your progress, and I pray to God brother, you stay on the path and I can see it in the way you talk, your eyes, your whole body language.

Massive in growth for you to be able to have this conversation publicly speak openly. Congratulations on your progress, and I pray to God brother, you stay on the path and I can see it in the way you talk, your eyes, your whole body language.

You're one million percent committed to the cause, Jed. I'll throw it.

You're one million percent committed to the cause, Jed. I'll throw it.

Back to you, bro, because here you are supporting your brother and I'll call him your brother because it's you that's it in your family and it's rare that we these days have that made or brother since childhood.

Back to you, bro, because here you are supporting your brother and I'll call him your brother because it's you that's it in your family and it's rare that we these days have that made or brother since childhood.

I have one outside of that.

I have one outside of that.

Exactly in need, just one or two lines around here, and you're just set.

Exactly in need, just one or two lines around here, and you're just set.

You know, how has it been for you, Jed?

You know, how has it been for you, Jed?

Though, knowing that your brother has been going through these hardships, you're here trying to support him, uplift him, keep him safe and let him know that he's not alone. But yet, you know, we can't deny that there's politics around all this stuff because one you technically could be consorting. Two is it okay by a parole for her? You know mylow to be involved with ex criminal Jed and others like minded that are in a really beautiful and organic space that's bringing positivity to the community. But let's not you know, step away from their views. You're meant to fail. We're a statistic, We're not meant to see seed.

Though, knowing that your brother has been going through these hardships, you're here trying to support him, uplift him, keep him safe and let him know that he's not alone. But yet, you know, we can't deny that there's politics around all this stuff because one you technically could be consorting. Two is it okay by a parole for her? You know mylow to be involved with ex criminal Jed and others like minded that are in a really beautiful and organic space that's bringing positivity to the community. But let's not you know, step away from their views. You're meant to fail. We're a statistic, We're not meant to see seed.

Now.

Now.

We just show who we are kind of at the end of the day, we show what we can get through. We'll climb out of anything, you know, throw the world at us and we'll get through it kind of thing.

We just show who we are kind of at the end of the day, we show what we can get through. We'll climb out of anything, you know, throw the world at us and we'll get through it kind of thing.

You know, You've got to.

You know, You've got to.

Accept the hatred that's going to come with it, and that's not going to go away ever, So you just got to accept and just eat off it kind of thing and make you fucking want more because of that kind of thing, you.

Accept the hatred that's going to come with it, and that's not going to go away ever, So you just got to accept and just eat off it kind of thing and make you fucking want more because of that kind of thing, you.

Know, So we just eat it hard.

Know, So we just eat it hard.

It is hard, isn't it, because you sort of get to that point and it's like, at what stage will people just fucking appreciate that I'm changing the ways I'm having.

It is hard, isn't it, because you sort of get to that point and it's like, at what stage will people just fucking appreciate that I'm changing the ways I'm having.

And hating until they eventually jump on kind of thing, you know, because they see it's doing good.

And hating until they eventually jump on kind of thing, you know, because they see it's doing good.

They see who we are or who were becoming kind of thing. You know.

They see who we are or who were becoming kind of thing. You know.

We've like me and myself, I've been in jail myself as well, so I've been blessed with good pro officers. I've had some good pro officers that have helped me out. I've had about four as well on ICY at the moment as we speak. So I'm still doing community service, still doing all that shit, but at the same time, I'm still trying to get ahead of life.

We've like me and myself, I've been in jail myself as well, so I've been blessed with good pro officers. I've had some good pro officers that have helped me out. I've had about four as well on ICY at the moment as we speak. So I'm still doing community service, still doing all that shit, but at the same time, I'm still trying to get ahead of life.

If you don't make a move, you're not going to get anywhere. Enoughing changes on this huge change kind of thing.

If you don't make a move, you're not going to get anywhere. Enoughing changes on this huge change kind of thing.

You know, it's a reality in it may like even myself, you know, sixteen years ago and I'm dragged back into something I've been fighting for five years. And you know, do we sit back and do we just go fuck the systems against us and you know we give up? Or do we just say okay, we embrace it and we just go You know what, this is making me stronger, it's making me hungrier, It's making me want to be the best I can be, and a big fuck you to the system in respect, I don't say that in an aggressive way that I'm saying fuck you, I can change, I can be better. I am going to be better, and not anything you do or anything you put in front of me, he's going to take that away from me. And that's not to say that our days are perfect, because we both know all the three of there's no way in the fucking world that every day's a good day.