Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show officially one year anniversary. Many of you on this exact date, one year ago set down and heard Buck and I speak to you for the first time ever on this date. We appreciate that first year and we have got so much more in the days, the weeks, the months and years ahead for you. But thank you to everyone out there who has given us the chance to step into the biggest legacy in the history of radio. And we hope that we have done a good job continuing to advance the fight for the things that Rush would have been fighting for himself. And certainly we are honored to talk with you every single day. I am in Atlanta. Buck is down in the Florida Key, so we are spanning the South Land a bit. Today. Herschel Walker, Senate candidate from the great state of Georgia, will be in studio with me here in Atlanta in about thirty minutes. For those of you who know the Atlanta area well, I am at our affiliate here looking out over the Atlanta Braves Stadium where I took my eleven year old. Last night the Braves won in a walk off bottom of the ninth inning. Hit was phenomenal time. We're here watching games, hanging out doing the dad and son's business. Family is going to be down here, a lot of fun there. Buck is down waiving the flag for Clay and Buck had events that are taking place in the floor to keys. But we wanted to begin with you. We talked about Yuval Day and the school shooting. There a great deal when it happened, the consequences, the details, and it appears that there now is a full vetting that is coming due, and it is that the Uvalde Police at commanders at a minimum, completely dropped the ball in their response here. And we want you to be able to hear this audio that was just released in recent hours. Here, this is Texas Police Commander Steve McCraw letting you know all of the details going on in the investigation surrounding the Uvalde Police response to that shooting. This is going to be chilling, This is going to be tough to hear, but we need an accurate rendition of what truly happened and the police, the police did not do the best at all, even close to it protecting these young kids and those teachers listen to. Law enforcement response to the attack at rob Elementary was an abject failure and anathetical to everything we've learned over the last two decades since the call up Mine massacred three minutes after the subjectender of the West building, there was a sufficient number of armed officers wearing body armor to isolate this tract and neutralize the subject. The only thing stopping the hallway of dedicated officers from any room one eleven and one twelve was the unseen commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children. Buck, you've watched some of this video as they have released, actually the scene video from inside of the school. You've actually trained in some of these situations. You recognize better than most would the type of guns that the police had that they were equipped with, also the protective shields and whatnot. What, based on the videos and the data and the reports coming out now is your take. This was abject failure and catastrophic misapplication of tactical doctrine. So here's the very very fundamental and unfortunately given the stakes here, horrific error that was made. There was a mindset, and this comes across I watched the Senate committee, the Texas Senate Committee to Protect All Texans Live Today, when they went through step by step the latest information, it was illuminating in some ways. Clay for example, why was there all that misreporting in the beginning about the school resource officer confronting the gunman. That seemed like a detail that you couldn't get wrong in good faith, well in this case meaning the press reporting on it. It was because a resource officer was not on scene but responded to the scene and did confront an adult outside the building who he had first thought maybe the shooter but was not was just a teacher who was outside the building. But so that was where there was this initial So there were good faith reporting errors either in the part of law enforcement or Okay, but gett into the much more important component of this. The doctrine post Columbine for active shooter or is stop the threat. It's as straightforward as anybody can imagine. You have someone who is actively trying to kill human beings who are, in the case of the school, unarmed and defenseless. You go until it stops. That means law enforcement officers take risks. That means that police on the scene are going to get shot at and some of them may be hit. That is a doctrine. What the commander on the scene applied to this was this is a barricaded shooter situation. And that then explains why the tactical decisions were made. Remember over an hour of waiting, an hour of children bleeding out in that classroom, an hour of ongoing shooting by the shoot inside. Yes, so this is what. So they applied barricaded shooter doctrine. So that means set up accord in, get a negotiator, see if you can get them to come out without without an exchange of gunfire with law enforce necessarily. This was not a crazy person who had locked himself in an attic and said, if anyone comes in here, I'm going to shoot them. This was a mass murdering psychopath, still on scene, still firing his gun. The fact that there were multiple instances, Clay, as you pointed, out of nine one one calls being made from inside the classroom of gunfire from inside the classroom, I do not understand. Now. I know they want to make this about command, and I know we have a lot of law enforced. And we've got guys, you know, we've got army rangers who saw seven tours listening right now. We've got SWAT team commanders listing right now. They know a heck of a lot more about this than I do. But I don't understand how anybody in that hallway where they had long guns, they had air fifteens too, where they had ballistic shields early on clay, they had four ballistic shields stacked up, they had multiple long guns, they had body armor. Two you got an eighteen year old lunatic in their shooting people, and you don't go in. I don't understand how they don't override command and say, sorry, sir, you can fire us, but we're going in. It sounds like on some level that's what finally happened. But I would love to get calls and we've done this before. As some of the details came out eight hundred two eight two two eight eight eight two, I only want to Buck's point people who have either found themselves in these situations before or have been through so many different training exercises. As all these details are coming out, Buck, I just I can't stop thinking about the nine one one calls. And if you are a police officer and you are aware that there are kids calling from inside of these classrooms, teachers calling from inside of these classrooms, isn't this why you become a police officer? I mean, if you crystallized, I think for the vast majority of people out there who go into law enforcement, it's very rare that you get an opportunity to protect the young and innocent from a heinous madman. This is I would think, why you become a police officer. Because there are children in danger, because there are female teachers in danger, Because there are people who are not as strong as you are that are in danger, and you are there as their shield, You are there as their protector. I cannot imagine sitting outside of that classroom. And frankly, you know what, neither could those parents. Those parents were willing to go in unarmed, some of them, and try to take their chances to protect their kids. And I'm afraid of the details that are going to come out, the number of kids that were shot and the number of teachers that were shot that could have survived if they had gone in that first two or three minutes and actually could front of this gunman It makes me sick to my stomach, and I bet it makes a huge number of people out there listening to us right now who are in law enforcement absolutely sick to their stomach. So here's the question I have, Buck, what happens now? Are there consequences for this police officer, this commander on the scene, who made such disastrous decisions, as you pointed out, treated this like a hostage barricade situation as opposed to an active shooter. And how was he not overruled? I think is a question that is echoing through many of our listeners right now. There's going to be a lot of continued, I think, debate and analysis over this from within the immediate law enforcement community that was on the scene there. But also I think that this will be studied in a very similar way to Columbine. Right Columbine was they applied the training they had and that training was absolutely wrong for the situation. Now that's a different thing, but we have here is the misapplication of training doctrine to the specific situation at hand. It's not that law enforcement hadn't had the training and what and would not have been able to respond differently based on their training in this case, it's you know, we think we have a barricaded shooter and are going to treat it as such when it's really an active shooter. That's a huge But then to your other point, Clay, not only all of the law enforcement community members listening to this right now, I honestly believe all the parents listening to this right now who have a you know, look, some people, yeah, have a comfort and a familiarity with firearms, know how to handle themselves with a firearm. And I just know right now their parents across the country listening is saying, forget about being a law enforcement officer, tactics and training. They're nine one one calls being made and they're still shooting from inside of a school building and I'm on the scene. Give me my twelve gauge, man, I'm going in that they and I believe they would do it. I don't think that that's bravado. I believe that and I know that. And so when you think about it in that context, you wonder, I guess, just command and control in that hallway for those officers, because I also believe that those officers, I maybe I want to believe that it's not that they were scared they were going to get shot. It's that they didn't want to be the one that broke orders and made it worse. So I, you know, I think it's tactical misapplication. I want to believe that instead of oh I don't want to get shot trying to save these kids. But I also leave some of this to you know, our law enforce and community that's listening and what do they think. And we also don't know what those later arriving officers were told on the scene. Some of those guys may have gotten there and they may have said, man, it's awful. All the kids in the classroom are dead and this guy's barricaded himself in. Now that's right if they like, if they told the board tack team that, for example, then they're doing If they're told everyone of the room is dead, we you know, we're waiting to see if we can get in and get this guy, then there's no urgency. The problem is when you hear gunfire, there's urgency. So we have to know when you hear that gunfire. And oh, by the way, I just think and again we don't know exactly, but the nine one one calls when you've got twelve or fourteen nine one one calls being made from inside of that classroom. I have to believe that the vast majority of those police officers did not know about exactly what was taking place there. But you know who should have is the guy who was in command, and there are going to be an awful lot of questions about what should happen to him. And also, think about this, Much of the discussion has surrounded laws that need to be changed, and that debate is still ongoing. But the story of Uvalde to me is the police were there within two or three minutes of the guy in entering into the classroom. How much different of a story is this if in four minutes they go in and they take this guy out, how many more people are still alive? How much different is the discussion because then, by the way, one guy with a gun, a couple of guys with guns were able to confront him, as opposed to hear where they say, oh, the police didn't do their job. They set outside, we got to have less guns to wait. When you have four trained law enforcement officers with ballistic shields and bullet resistant vests kevlar vests on and long guns, is inexcusable. It's just inexcusable. I mean, there's the basis for this. I mean, this guy. They weren't going up against some kind of a cyborg. He's an eighteen year old kid who's murdering defenseless children. The parents, somehow Clay knew on the perimeter, They knew that not enough was being done, which I think is also a haunting part of this. There were parents, some of whom broke through the police perimeter to say when and got their kids to get this, I'm saving my kids. So this is the this is the this is going to go down, I think unfortunately, along with some of the other failures of law enforce and doctrine and application, some of the very haunting ones from recent decades. That's that's where I think this unfortunately belongs right now. One eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. Again, people who are experts in this, hearing these details, your reactions, that's who we want. I know there's a lot of people who want to react, but in particular, I want the experts out there if we're going to take some calls on this. In the meantime, varies and at and T T Mobile They've gotten a way with charging you a premium fee every month for data you don't likely use. 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We just have a short, short segment here and then we have herschel Walker Senate candidate in studio with Clay in a couple of minutes, so back of this hour. So please, if you're on hold, then you want we do want to discuss that topic and if we have some calls with expertise. We'll get to that, So that's going to be coming up back of this hour, and then also herschel Walker here in just a few minutes, we'll be joining us. Clay, I'll just say this from our friends, you know, we we we view the right and being sane as a team, and we want as many we hold up our fellow host we hold We appreciate those folks, Glenn Jesse, everybody who's been supporting us for this whole year, and there's many of them, by the way, I just those two just spoke and we should mention too. Yes, they were phenomenal. More of that uval Day news. By the way, Also, we talked about this yesterday. The door was not locked. That was testified to by Stephen McCraw during this Texas Committee hearing this morning. So there was a lot of discussion about, oh, they couldn't go in because the shooter had locked the door. The door was un locked. All the failure, failure at so many levels, Clay, that I mean, and I know it's it's hard, especially for those of us who have so much respect for law enforcement, and we always want to we always want to believe the best of our law enforcement because ninety nine percent of the time they are the best. But this is unfortunately not one of This is one of those one of those moments where you have to look long and hard at what happened herschel walker with us in just a couple of minutes here, Folks, look, I know aches and pains are a problem for a lot of people. My dad has had aches and pains for years, and he's a maniac out there on the golf course. I mean, he'll do thirty six holes in a day sometimes. But you know what, he's better than he's been in a long time when it comes to pain. 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I mean, I wouldn't want to do it because the comparison is always there. But you guys have prospered, and I think that it is an amazing media achievement. So I was getting congrats on your first anniversary. Many more fantastic to hear from so many of the friends of the program. For those of you just tuning in, we are officially at one year of existence on the Clay and Buck Show. I am in Atlanta, GA. Buck is down in the Florida Keys, and joining me here in the studio is the next senator from the great state of Georgia. He is Herschel Walker and Herschel I want to start kind of here. You obviously won a national championship playing football at Georgia You're used to being liked in the state of Georgia. But man, it's amazing how when you decided to become a Republican Senate candidate, suddenly the media is coming after you like crazy. How do you think they'd be treating you if you were running? Exact same person obviously, but you're a Democrat running for the Senate in Georgia. How much different would you treat money. I think they would absolutely love me if I was running. If I was a Democrat running, they would love me. And I have all the great articles written about Man, I'll be going around like just waving at crowds like I'm a pageant model in seven. It'd be awesome. But you know, but I think being a Republican running, I'm good with that as well. What are you seeing here as you go around and here, I know there's talk of the federal gas tax getting repealed. Reverend Raphael Warnox trying to pretend that he hasn't voted for everything. Joe Biden wants. What are the people of Georgia saying when you're going out around and seeing them all over the place, you know it doesn't doubt the gas is a big, big, problem this economy is really making me. Everyone stand up and take notice, you know, when you're not just got to afford gas. But I think the problem you have is, you know, people live paycheck to paycheck where I'm from, and now they got to pay hundred dollars for gas. They can only tell them part of the week. And then you got to buy groceries, try to save money for your rent, got to save money for your car. No, that really really get expensive. So people are worried about that. And with them coming at all these gimmicks, you know, these are gimmicks trying to get a vote, trying to pretend that they care. If Biden cared. If we're not cared, they go ahead and give us energy independence again. That's one thing they gotta tell the people, if they really care about what's happening to this country, they'll make us energy independent again. And they remove some of the restrictions from these leases that he say he's give them to everyone that they can drill on. But he do not tell people these leases have so many restricts his own, they decay in madrill. So he's not telling the whole truth. And I think if they care, they'd do something like that. Hey, Herschultz, Buck, thanks obviously for being with us. Really appreciated the reality of crime nationwide has gotten a lot more attention in recent months, I think, because not only did we go through a thirty percent one year increase in homicides nationwide recently, but this year in a number of major cities, it's actually up over the twenty to twenty one period, right, so it's it's continuing and even exceeding the previous records. There was a whole narrative here of defund the police from Democrats. There was a narrative that was pushed by the Black Lives Matter movement that ending mass incarceration, which means that's the phrase they use, less prosecution, more criminals let out sooner, or not prosecuted at all. That somehow this was going to achieve justice. What it has achieved is a lot of disorder, crime, and anarchy on the streets. Think that the sentiment in your homestate of Georgia has changed on that, And do you think there's anything that as a senator, I mean, just even from the perspective of speaking the truth about this and having a counter narrative, you would want to do in the Senate on the issue of crime. Well, you know, one thing I want to do is I want to hold us to our constitution. I think the problem we have we've come so far and people forget about this. We have a rule of law. And I was thinking about something, y'all. Was at a Juneteenth celebration last night, and I said, you know, Martin Luther King brought us to a certain point and nice up to our leaders who we have elected to office that are black, to take us even farther. But yet they've done absolutely nothing but at least looked out for themselves. So we need leaders to advance us, not to take us back. Not look in the review mirror because that seemed to be all new thing they're looking at in this country. Here we have a rule of law, and we're not standing by that rule of law. We put judges, we put DA's in office that are they're letting criminals out. And then there's some people that don't deserve to walk them on decent people. They just can't get along with people like that. And when you see crime the way picked up right now. We gotta not fund the police. We gotta have their backs. You know, that's one of the things I think they decided to do. Oh, we made a big mistake by defunding the police, so now we're gonna fund them. But you still got it wrong. You gotta have their backs meeting when they arrest someone, you gotta keep them in jail. They're letting people out of jail as soon as the officer arrest them, so you don't even have that back. So you know, why would you want to become an officer? And I think that's the problem we're having Herschel. One of the great things about sports is whether you're black, white, Asian or Hispanic, everybody comes together to try to find the best way for a team to succeed. I would bet in Georgia that you're meeting a lot of black, white, Asian and Hispanic people who don't really consider themselves to be political, but they just know things aren't working right. Are you seeing that a lot when you're going around the state. Well, you know what's so fun to anyone in Americas? You'll see things not working right. And if they want to be blind, you can be blind if you want to. But when you see the gas prices of the the way they are right now, you know it's not right. You can try to lie to yourself or try to make excuses. And that's what it's so good about this here. It's got nothing to do with color. You got to do with these policies that they've released on the state of Georgia, they released on this country, and you're the policy of Joe Biden. Policy that policies that want not voted on. You know, he can try to escape that as much as he want, but nine a seven percent of the time he voted along with Biden. So it tells you is he looking at the policy, doesn't care, or he's just going along with whatever somebody tell them to do. Because when you look at these policies, they do not work. I don't care what color you are, they do not work. And you know, as I was saying early on, I said, you look at what's going on. The people that are hurt, of people that are from my little area. People that they can't afford to buy a sixty thousand dollars electric car, They can't afford to go out and pay a hundred dollars for gas that can only take him part. They can't afford to do some of the things they're doing right now speaking of Herschel Walker, he's a Senate candidate in the state of Georgia and obviously also one of the greatest running backs of all time. Herschel to anybody in the state of Georgia, we got a big Georgia listening audience. Who is an independent or maybe even a disaffected Democrat. We'd love to get as many of those as possible. What do you tell them is going to be different from what they what they've been getting in terms of their representation as Georgians at the federal government. From Raphael Warnock, Well, think what they're gonna get different, and I will then know that don't think that they've been in their party by voting for me because they're part of abandoned them. They're not abandoned that party because they're voting for me. Whether they're doing it, voted for someone that care about this country. And I care about them because they're my family. I don't care what color you are. You my family, and I was taught from my parents to take care of your family. Right now, my family has heard and they heard him from the crime on the street, They're heard him from this border band wide, They're heard them from the gas prices. They're heard them from the grocery prices. But those are things I want to fight because you know, I'm not here to get put another fail in my cap. I'm not here to try to get a pad on the back. I'm not here to make friends in the sending and be walking around eating dinners. What I want to do is get this country fixed. And that's what I told people when I was going to run. There's other things I could be doing right now, but I know I can beat senator who are not He knows it as well. If he didn't know that, it wouldn't be going out for me like they're going out for me, because then they'll be worried about fixing what's going on. But yeah, that wanted to continue to talk about me rather than talking about the gas prices. Continue to talk about me rather than talking about you can't eat, Continue to talk about me rather than fixing the border. There are so many things that they have to do that they can get done. It's simple. That's what's so funny. This is simple. Like, if you want to get the gas prices right, let's start drilling in our own country. Let's take care of ourselves. You want to get this border right, at least go down there and look at the laws on the book. You know, you know, I think the Vice President was sposed be down there fixing the border. Where is she to day? You know she's not even trying. And I said, that's what makesing it so angry. They're not even trying to make it better, and they're making excuses that they're not doing it. Herschel, I know you're not running against Stacy abrahams Brian Kemp. Is I love the state of Georgia. I spent a lot of time down here. Obviously, I live in Tennessee. I wish my volunteers would win a few more games against your bulldogs. We'll see if that ever happens. It may not happen soon, but that's okay. But she said Georgia was the worst state in the United States, and Warnuck is running alongside of Stacy Abraham. Is there a team just like you and Brian Kemp are a team right now running this fall? What did you think, as somebody who grew up in Georgia and has spent much of your life here when she said Georgia was the worst state and it was totally insulting. It's insulting because you says the worst state and that you know, and yet you're running for office here. And then you said a senator, we're not running right along with him. And I was at a police at a police equip I was at a police banquet. And what was so fun about that? They invited Miss Abrams and invited h senator or not neither one of them showed up. Yea, they didn't even show it. To support the police. We got to support our men and women in blue like or not. They they've worked for so much little yet they do so much and you don't want to support them. And I said, that is a problem. I want people of Georgia. Did know that if you want to get this Georgia back together, you want to get this country back together, you got a vote for people that believes in this country. And if you don't believe in the country, leaving go somewhales. If it's the worst state, why are you? Why are you here? Why don't you leave? Go to another That's what fifty one more of the states you didn't go to. You don't have to be here. We're talking to herschel Walker he is running for the Senate in Georgia and he would help to flip the power in the Senate. Get to fifty one votes in the Senate, it could make a big difference. Like you said, Stacy Abrams, a lot of other states. She could choose to live in forty nine of them and maybe the district or Columbia. The Democrats want to make DC and Porto Rico states, so before they've done fifty one fifty two, who knows need herschel Walker in there in the Senate. Good luck. I appreciate the time. I know how busy you are. Appreciate you coming in studio with us here in Atlanta today. Thank you and thank you guys. Then, happy anniversary, thank you. First birthday, Yeah, happy first birthday. It's anniversary too, I don't I think it counts both. Thank you. I want to tell you if your business has five or more employees you managed to navigate through the pandemic, you're eligible to receive a payroll tax rebate of twenty six thousand dollars per employee, not alone, no payback, it's a refund of your taxes. The challenge getting your hands on it. So how do you get started. Go to get Refunds dot Com. Their tax attorneys are specialist little known payroll tax refund program. They do all the work with no charges up front. Simply share a percentage of the cash they can get for you. Businesses of all types can qualify, including those who took PPP, nonprofits, even those that had increases in sales. Average client gets four hundred thousand dollars back. 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I'm friends with both of you. I'm so happy for both of you. Continued success. God blessings all the time, and we'll be we'll be talking soon. Our friend Sean Hannity there with really very kind words and mis Sean is such a generous, decent, great, great all around guide everybody who knows him, and saying some things there that you know, really going above and beyond. So thank you very much to the great Sean Hannity. And we did say we're going to take a bunch of calls here. We've got so many lined up. Let's go with Randy in South Carolina. He's a retired police officer in hostage negotiator. Randy, thanks for calling in, Thank you for having me on your show. So what do you think about what happened? Randy? Well, the situation in Texas. You don't want to point the fingers or calling anybody out because you don't know the level of training these officers had, but it doesn't seem like there was a that they had been to any standardized type of training like I had experienced when I was in North Carolina, and Randy, my understanding is that those officers had just finished active shooter training earlier this year. We'll see. I don't understand in what happened, having been on both sides of the coin, so to speak, as a negotiator and having taught negotiation tactics, but also I was subject to active shooter training. I know that there is a difference. The active shooter training is basically put in place because when you have a situation unfold, you always have officers from different agencies and jurisdictions arrived, and they may not know one another. But the general consensus, Randy, sorry, is if there's an active shooter, you go in as aggressively as you possibly can. You draw the fire, you may get hit, but you want the active shooter in a school situation, especially focused on you as opposed to focus on the kids. Right. Well, I would say that's partially correct. As I was to say the active shooter training is you have the same type of training, almost like a SWAT team does in the close quarter combat drilling. But then when I might say I thought I might the scene, and you arrived at the scene, and you and I have had the same training, and we get one or two more, four is the optimum number, then we're going to go in. Even though we've never trained together, even though we don't know each other, we know the tactics we're going to employ. We're going to go That's right, Randy. They had thanks. I want to keep moving as fast as we can. They had dozens of officers eventually on scene before they even went in. We got Jeffrey and Miami, Florida former Miami cop and also Hasha's negotiator, Jeffrey, thank you. Yes, I'd like to park point out the Florida Parkland school shooting. We're absually arrested the school resource officer or neglect of duty and child neglect. To me, he was a scapegoat. He didn't know exactly where that assailant was. The ones that should have been arrested was the commander showing up on the scene and the other officers that we had knowledge that they stood by and waited to go in. Also want to point out George Floyd. The officers that stood by, well, this officer killed George Floyd with his knee on his neck. They were arrested for manslaughter charges and neglect. To me, there's no difference than that than these officers standing by while a commanding officer that is not competent is standing by giving these claims to standing down. There wasn't under a unified command. There was not enough time for that. You had multiple agencies that responded. Those officers needed to take actions and should be held accountable. You look at the female officer that was arrested or pulling her gun out instead of her taser. To me, the far lefty to get off their asks. The message that they're sending is if you're out there doing your job and you fucked up or screw up, what's going to happen is we're going off to you. The message that they the send is if you're a police officer and you're not doing your job, we're going to go after you. This was a complete neglect that these officers should each be held accountable for their actions. Are we're going to come in a minute here, Thank you. We're gonna come in a minute here and talk more about the law enforcement situation in a more general sense, which is in response to the continuing why a wave of crime across the country. We'll be discussing that here in just a few moments plus. Elon Musk gets approved by the Twitter board. Clay. Pretty exciting stuff there for those those who believe in free speech. As a shareholder, I hope that this thing ends up going through because we definitely need a free speech universe. Will continue to take your calls react to everything that's going on there. We deeply thank all of you for the support of the Clay and Buck Show as we are rolling into year two now, lots of great events still to come. The red wave is rising, and we're going to be leading that charge here on playing Buck Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show officially one year anniversary. Many of you on this exact date, one year ago set down and heard Buck and I speak to you for the first time ever on this date. We appreciate that first year and we have got so much more in the days, the weeks, the months and years ahead for you. But thank you to everyone out there who has given us the chance to step into the biggest legacy in the history of radio. And we hope that we have done a good job continuing to advance the fight for the things that Rush would have been fighting for himself. And certainly we are honored to talk with you every single day. I am in Atlanta. Buck is down in the Florida Key, so we are spanning the South Land a bit. Today. Herschel Walker, Senate candidate from the great state of Georgia, will be in studio with me here in Atlanta in about thirty minutes. For those of you who know the Atlanta area well, I am at our affiliate here looking out over the Atlanta Braves Stadium where I took my eleven year old. Last night the Braves won in a walk off bottom of the ninth inning. Hit was phenomenal time. We're here watching games, hanging out doing the dad and son's business. Family is going to be down here, a lot of fun there. Buck is down waiving the flag for Clay and Buck had events that are taking place in the floor to keys. But we wanted to begin with you. We talked about Yuval Day and the school shooting. There a great deal when it happened, the consequences, the details, and it appears that there now is a full vetting that is coming due, and it is that the Uvalde Police at commanders at a minimum, completely dropped the ball in their response here. And we want you to be able to hear this audio that was just released in recent hours. Here, this is Texas Police Commander Steve McCraw letting you know all of the details going on in the investigation surrounding the Uvalde Police response to that shooting. This is going to be chilling, This is going to be tough to hear, but we need an accurate rendition of what truly happened and the police, the police did not do the best at all, even close to it protecting these young kids and those teachers listen to. Law enforcement response to the attack at rob Elementary was an abject failure and anathetical to everything we've learned over the last two decades since the call up Mine massacred three minutes after the subjectender of the West building, there was a sufficient number of armed officers wearing body armor to isolate this tract and neutralize the subject. The only thing stopping the hallway of dedicated officers from any room one eleven and one twelve was the unseen commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children. Buck, you've watched some of this video as they have released, actually the scene video from inside of the school. You've actually trained in some of these situations. You recognize better than most would the type of guns that the police had that they were equipped with, also the protective shields and whatnot. What, based on the videos and the data and the reports coming out now is your take. This was abject failure and catastrophic misapplication of tactical doctrine. So here's the very very fundamental and unfortunately given the stakes here, horrific error that was made. There was a mindset, and this comes across I watched the Senate committee, the Texas Senate Committee to Protect All Texans Live Today, when they went through step by step the latest information, it was illuminating in some ways. Clay for example, why was there all that misreporting in the beginning about the school resource officer confronting the gunman. That seemed like a detail that you couldn't get wrong in good faith, well in this case meaning the press reporting on it. It was because a resource officer was not on scene but responded to the scene and did confront an adult outside the building who he had first thought maybe the shooter but was not was just a teacher who was outside the building. But so that was where there was this initial So there were good faith reporting errors either in the part of law enforcement or Okay, but gett into the much more important component of this. The doctrine post Columbine for active shooter or is stop the threat. It's as straightforward as anybody can imagine. You have someone who is actively trying to kill human beings who are, in the case of the school, unarmed and defenseless. You go until it stops. That means law enforcement officers take risks. That means that police on the scene are going to get shot at and some of them may be hit. That is a doctrine. What the commander on the scene applied to this was this is a barricaded shooter situation. And that then explains why the tactical decisions were made. Remember over an hour of waiting, an hour of children bleeding out in that classroom, an hour of ongoing shooting by the shoot inside. Yes, so this is what. So they applied barricaded shooter doctrine. So that means set up accord in, get a negotiator, see if you can get them to come out without without an exchange of gunfire with law enforce necessarily. This was not a crazy person who had locked himself in an attic and said, if anyone comes in here, I'm going to shoot them. This was a mass murdering psychopath, still on scene, still firing his gun. The fact that there were multiple instances, Clay, as you pointed, out of nine one one calls being made from inside the classroom of gunfire from inside the classroom, I do not understand. Now. I know they want to make this about command, and I know we have a lot of law enforced. And we've got guys, you know, we've got army rangers who saw seven tours listening right now. We've got SWAT team commanders listing right now. They know a heck of a lot more about this than I do. But I don't understand how anybody in that hallway where they had long guns, they had air fifteens too, where they had ballistic shields early on clay, they had four ballistic shields stacked up, they had multiple long guns, they had body armor. Two you got an eighteen year old lunatic in their shooting people, and you don't go in. I don't understand how they don't override command and say, sorry, sir, you can fire us, but we're going in. It sounds like on some level that's what finally happened. But I would love to get calls and we've done this before. As some of the details came out eight hundred two eight two two eight eight eight two, I only want to Buck's point people who have either found themselves in these situations before or have been through so many different training exercises. As all these details are coming out, Buck, I just I can't stop thinking about the nine one one calls. And if you are a police officer and you are aware that there are kids calling from inside of these classrooms, teachers calling from inside of these classrooms, isn't this why you become a police officer? I mean, if you crystallized, I think for the vast majority of people out there who go into law enforcement, it's very rare that you get an opportunity to protect the young and innocent from a heinous madman. This is I would think, why you become a police officer. Because there are children in danger, because there are female teachers in danger, Because there are people who are not as strong as you are that are in danger, and you are there as their shield, You are there as their protector. I cannot imagine sitting outside of that classroom. And frankly, you know what, neither could those parents. Those parents were willing to go in unarmed, some of them, and try to take their chances to protect their kids. And I'm afraid of the details that are going to come out, the number of kids that were shot and the number of teachers that were shot that could have survived if they had gone in that first two or three minutes and actually could front of this gunman It makes me sick to my stomach, and I bet it makes a huge number of people out there listening to us right now who are in law enforcement absolutely sick to their stomach. So here's the question I have, Buck, what happens now? Are there consequences for this police officer, this commander on the scene, who made such disastrous decisions, as you pointed out, treated this like a hostage barricade situation as opposed to an active shooter. And how was he not overruled? I think is a question that is echoing through many of our listeners right now. There's going to be a lot of continued, I think, debate and analysis over this from within the immediate law enforcement community that was on the scene there. But also I think that this will be studied in a very similar way to Columbine. Right Columbine was they applied the training they had and that training was absolutely wrong for the situation. Now that's a different thing, but we have here is the misapplication of training doctrine to the specific situation at hand. It's not that law enforcement hadn't had the training and what and would not have been able to respond differently based on their training in this case, it's you know, we think we have a barricaded shooter and are going to treat it as such when it's really an active shooter. That's a huge But then to your other point, Clay, not only all of the law enforcement community members listening to this right now, I honestly believe all the parents listening to this right now who have a you know, look, some people, yeah, have a comfort and a familiarity with firearms, know how to handle themselves with a firearm. And I just know right now their parents across the country listening is saying, forget about being a law enforcement officer, tactics and training. They're nine one one calls being made and they're still shooting from inside of a school building and I'm on the scene. Give me my twelve gauge, man, I'm going in that they and I believe they would do it. I don't think that that's bravado. I believe that and I know that. And so when you think about it in that context, you wonder, I guess, just command and control in that hallway for those officers, because I also believe that those officers, I maybe I want to believe that it's not that they were scared they were going to get shot. It's that they didn't want to be the one that broke orders and made it worse. So I, you know, I think it's tactical misapplication. I want to believe that instead of oh I don't want to get shot trying to save these kids. But I also leave some of this to you know, our law enforce and community that's listening and what do they think. And we also don't know what those later arriving officers were told on the scene. Some of those guys may have gotten there and they may have said, man, it's awful. All the kids in the classroom are dead and this guy's barricaded himself in. Now that's right if they like, if they told the board tack team that, for example, then they're doing If they're told everyone of the room is dead, we you know, we're waiting to see if we can get in and get this guy, then there's no urgency. The problem is when you hear gunfire, there's urgency. So we have to know when you hear that gunfire. And oh, by the way, I just think and again we don't know exactly, but the nine one one calls when you've got twelve or fourteen nine one one calls being made from inside of that classroom. I have to believe that the vast majority of those police officers did not know about exactly what was taking place there. But you know who should have is the guy who was in command, and there are going to be an awful lot of questions about what should happen to him. And also, think about this, Much of the discussion has surrounded laws that need to be changed, and that debate is still ongoing. But the story of Uvalde to me is the police were there within two or three minutes of the guy in entering into the classroom. How much different of a story is this if in four minutes they go in and they take this guy out, how many more people are still alive? How much different is the discussion because then, by the way, one guy with a gun, a couple of guys with guns were able to confront him, as opposed to hear where they say, oh, the police didn't do their job. They set outside, we got to have less guns to wait. When you have four trained law enforcement officers with ballistic shields and bullet resistant vests kevlar vests on and long guns, is inexcusable. It's just inexcusable. I mean, there's the basis for this. I mean, this guy. They weren't going up against some kind of a cyborg. He's an eighteen year old kid who's murdering defenseless children. The parents, somehow Clay knew on the perimeter, They knew that not enough was being done, which I think is also a haunting part of this. There were parents, some of whom broke through the police perimeter to say when and got their kids to get this, I'm saving my kids. So this is the this is the this is going to go down, I think unfortunately, along with some of the other failures of law enforce and doctrine and application, some of the very haunting ones from recent decades. That's that's where I think this unfortunately belongs right now. One eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. Again, people who are experts in this, hearing these details, your reactions, that's who we want. I know there's a lot of people who want to react, but in particular, I want the experts out there if we're going to take some calls on this. In the meantime, varies and at and T T Mobile They've gotten a way with charging you a premium fee every month for data you don't likely use. 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We just have a short, short segment here and then we have herschel Walker Senate candidate in studio with Clay in a couple of minutes, so back of this hour. So please, if you're on hold, then you want we do want to discuss that topic and if we have some calls with expertise. We'll get to that, So that's going to be coming up back of this hour, and then also herschel Walker here in just a few minutes, we'll be joining us. Clay, I'll just say this from our friends, you know, we we we view the right and being sane as a team, and we want as many we hold up our fellow host we hold We appreciate those folks, Glenn Jesse, everybody who's been supporting us for this whole year, and there's many of them, by the way, I just those two just spoke and we should mention too. Yes, they were phenomenal. More of that uval Day news. By the way, Also, we talked about this yesterday. The door was not locked. That was testified to by Stephen McCraw during this Texas Committee hearing this morning. So there was a lot of discussion about, oh, they couldn't go in because the shooter had locked the door. The door was un locked. All the failure, failure at so many levels, Clay, that I mean, and I know it's it's hard, especially for those of us who have so much respect for law enforcement, and we always want to we always want to believe the best of our law enforcement because ninety nine percent of the time they are the best. But this is unfortunately not one of This is one of those one of those moments where you have to look long and hard at what happened herschel walker with us in just a couple of minutes here, Folks, look, I know aches and pains are a problem for a lot of people. My dad has had aches and pains for years, and he's a maniac out there on the golf course. I mean, he'll do thirty six holes in a day sometimes. But you know what, he's better than he's been in a long time when it comes to pain. 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I mean, I wouldn't want to do it because the comparison is always there. But you guys have prospered, and I think that it is an amazing media achievement. So I was getting congrats on your first anniversary. Many more fantastic to hear from so many of the friends of the program. For those of you just tuning in, we are officially at one year of existence on the Clay and Buck Show. I am in Atlanta, GA. Buck is down in the Florida Keys, and joining me here in the studio is the next senator from the great state of Georgia. He is Herschel Walker and Herschel I want to start kind of here. You obviously won a national championship playing football at Georgia You're used to being liked in the state of Georgia. But man, it's amazing how when you decided to become a Republican Senate candidate, suddenly the media is coming after you like crazy. How do you think they'd be treating you if you were running? Exact same person obviously, but you're a Democrat running for the Senate in Georgia. How much different would you treat money. I think they would absolutely love me if I was running. If I was a Democrat running, they would love me. And I have all the great articles written about Man, I'll be going around like just waving at crowds like I'm a pageant model in seven. It'd be awesome. But you know, but I think being a Republican running, I'm good with that as well. What are you seeing here as you go around and here, I know there's talk of the federal gas tax getting repealed. Reverend Raphael Warnox trying to pretend that he hasn't voted for everything. Joe Biden wants. What are the people of Georgia saying when you're going out around and seeing them all over the place, you know it doesn't doubt the gas is a big, big, problem this economy is really making me. Everyone stand up and take notice, you know, when you're not just got to afford gas. But I think the problem you have is, you know, people live paycheck to paycheck where I'm from, and now they got to pay hundred dollars for gas. They can only tell them part of the week. And then you got to buy groceries, try to save money for your rent, got to save money for your car. No, that really really get expensive. So people are worried about that. And with them coming at all these gimmicks, you know, these are gimmicks trying to get a vote, trying to pretend that they care. If Biden cared. If we're not cared, they go ahead and give us energy independence again. That's one thing they gotta tell the people, if they really care about what's happening to this country, they'll make us energy independent again. And they remove some of the restrictions from these leases that he say he's give them to everyone that they can drill on. But he do not tell people these leases have so many restricts his own, they decay in madrill. So he's not telling the whole truth. And I think if they care, they'd do something like that. Hey, Herschultz, Buck, thanks obviously for being with us. Really appreciated the reality of crime nationwide has gotten a lot more attention in recent months, I think, because not only did we go through a thirty percent one year increase in homicides nationwide recently, but this year in a number of major cities, it's actually up over the twenty to twenty one period, right, so it's it's continuing and even exceeding the previous records. There was a whole narrative here of defund the police from Democrats. There was a narrative that was pushed by the Black Lives Matter movement that ending mass incarceration, which means that's the phrase they use, less prosecution, more criminals let out sooner, or not prosecuted at all. That somehow this was going to achieve justice. What it has achieved is a lot of disorder, crime, and anarchy on the streets. Think that the sentiment in your homestate of Georgia has changed on that, And do you think there's anything that as a senator, I mean, just even from the perspective of speaking the truth about this and having a counter narrative, you would want to do in the Senate on the issue of crime. Well, you know, one thing I want to do is I want to hold us to our constitution. I think the problem we have we've come so far and people forget about this. We have a rule of law. And I was thinking about something, y'all. Was at a Juneteenth celebration last night, and I said, you know, Martin Luther King brought us to a certain point and nice up to our leaders who we have elected to office that are black, to take us even farther. But yet they've done absolutely nothing but at least looked out for themselves. So we need leaders to advance us, not to take us back. Not look in the review mirror because that seemed to be all new thing they're looking at in this country. Here we have a rule of law, and we're not standing by that rule of law. We put judges, we put DA's in office that are they're letting criminals out. And then there's some people that don't deserve to walk them on decent people. They just can't get along with people like that. And when you see crime the way picked up right now. We gotta not fund the police. We gotta have their backs. You know, that's one of the things I think they decided to do. Oh, we made a big mistake by defunding the police, so now we're gonna fund them. But you still got it wrong. You gotta have their backs meeting when they arrest someone, you gotta keep them in jail. They're letting people out of jail as soon as the officer arrest them, so you don't even have that back. So you know, why would you want to become an officer? And I think that's the problem we're having Herschel. One of the great things about sports is whether you're black, white, Asian or Hispanic, everybody comes together to try to find the best way for a team to succeed. I would bet in Georgia that you're meeting a lot of black, white, Asian and Hispanic people who don't really consider themselves to be political, but they just know things aren't working right. Are you seeing that a lot when you're going around the state. Well, you know what's so fun to anyone in Americas? You'll see things not working right. And if they want to be blind, you can be blind if you want to. But when you see the gas prices of the the way they are right now, you know it's not right. You can try to lie to yourself or try to make excuses. And that's what it's so good about this here. It's got nothing to do with color. You got to do with these policies that they've released on the state of Georgia, they released on this country, and you're the policy of Joe Biden. Policy that policies that want not voted on. You know, he can try to escape that as much as he want, but nine a seven percent of the time he voted along with Biden. So it tells you is he looking at the policy, doesn't care, or he's just going along with whatever somebody tell them to do. Because when you look at these policies, they do not work. I don't care what color you are, they do not work. And you know, as I was saying early on, I said, you look at what's going on. The people that are hurt, of people that are from my little area. People that they can't afford to buy a sixty thousand dollars electric car, They can't afford to go out and pay a hundred dollars for gas that can only take him part. They can't afford to do some of the things they're doing right now speaking of Herschel Walker, he's a Senate candidate in the state of Georgia and obviously also one of the greatest running backs of all time. Herschel to anybody in the state of Georgia, we got a big Georgia listening audience. Who is an independent or maybe even a disaffected Democrat. We'd love to get as many of those as possible. What do you tell them is going to be different from what they what they've been getting in terms of their representation as Georgians at the federal government. From Raphael Warnock, Well, think what they're gonna get different, and I will then know that don't think that they've been in their party by voting for me because they're part of abandoned them. They're not abandoned that party because they're voting for me. Whether they're doing it, voted for someone that care about this country. And I care about them because they're my family. I don't care what color you are. You my family, and I was taught from my parents to take care of your family. Right now, my family has heard and they heard him from the crime on the street, They're heard him from this border band wide, They're heard them from the gas prices. They're heard them from the grocery prices. But those are things I want to fight because you know, I'm not here to get put another fail in my cap. I'm not here to try to get a pad on the back. I'm not here to make friends in the sending and be walking around eating dinners. What I want to do is get this country fixed. And that's what I told people when I was going to run. There's other things I could be doing right now, but I know I can beat senator who are not He knows it as well. If he didn't know that, it wouldn't be going out for me like they're going out for me, because then they'll be worried about fixing what's going on. But yeah, that wanted to continue to talk about me rather than talking about the gas prices. Continue to talk about me rather than talking about you can't eat, Continue to talk about me rather than fixing the border. There are so many things that they have to do that they can get done. It's simple. That's what's so funny. This is simple. Like, if you want to get the gas prices right, let's start drilling in our own country. Let's take care of ourselves. You want to get this border right, at least go down there and look at the laws on the book. You know, you know, I think the Vice President was sposed be down there fixing the border. Where is she to day? You know she's not even trying. And I said, that's what makesing it so angry. They're not even trying to make it better, and they're making excuses that they're not doing it. Herschel, I know you're not running against Stacy abrahams Brian Kemp. Is I love the state of Georgia. I spent a lot of time down here. Obviously, I live in Tennessee. I wish my volunteers would win a few more games against your bulldogs. We'll see if that ever happens. It may not happen soon, but that's okay. But she said Georgia was the worst state in the United States, and Warnuck is running alongside of Stacy Abraham. Is there a team just like you and Brian Kemp are a team right now running this fall? What did you think, as somebody who grew up in Georgia and has spent much of your life here when she said Georgia was the worst state and it was totally insulting. It's insulting because you says the worst state and that you know, and yet you're running for office here. And then you said a senator, we're not running right along with him. And I was at a police at a police equip I was at a police banquet. And what was so fun about that? They invited Miss Abrams and invited h senator or not neither one of them showed up. Yea, they didn't even show it. To support the police. We got to support our men and women in blue like or not. They they've worked for so much little yet they do so much and you don't want to support them. And I said, that is a problem. I want people of Georgia. Did know that if you want to get this Georgia back together, you want to get this country back together, you got a vote for people that believes in this country. And if you don't believe in the country, leaving go somewhales. If it's the worst state, why are you? Why are you here? Why don't you leave? Go to another That's what fifty one more of the states you didn't go to. You don't have to be here. We're talking to herschel Walker he is running for the Senate in Georgia and he would help to flip the power in the Senate. Get to fifty one votes in the Senate, it could make a big difference. Like you said, Stacy Abrams, a lot of other states. She could choose to live in forty nine of them and maybe the district or Columbia. The Democrats want to make DC and Porto Rico states, so before they've done fifty one fifty two, who knows need herschel Walker in there in the Senate. Good luck. I appreciate the time. I know how busy you are. Appreciate you coming in studio with us here in Atlanta today. Thank you and thank you guys. Then, happy anniversary, thank you. First birthday, Yeah, happy first birthday. It's anniversary too, I don't I think it counts both. Thank you. I want to tell you if your business has five or more employees you managed to navigate through the pandemic, you're eligible to receive a payroll tax rebate of twenty six thousand dollars per employee, not alone, no payback, it's a refund of your taxes. The challenge getting your hands on it. So how do you get started. Go to get Refunds dot Com. Their tax attorneys are specialist little known payroll tax refund program. They do all the work with no charges up front. Simply share a percentage of the cash they can get for you. Businesses of all types can qualify, including those who took PPP, nonprofits, even those that had increases in sales. Average client gets four hundred thousand dollars back. Get Refunds dot Com has help ten thousand companies receive over a billion in cash rebates. They can help you too. Just go to get Refunds dot Com, click on qualify me, answer a few questions. That's Get Refunds dot Com. No risk, high reward, Get refunds. Hey Clay, Hey buck gets your friend Sean Hannity one year anniversary. Couldn't be happier for you guys. By the way, who gets first billing? Who gets second billing? And how do you decide that? And do you have a flip it on other days? You know, I've watched the incredible year of broadcasting you guys have had you take over for the goat the greatest of all time. Rush Lumbaugh never an easy position to be put in, and you both have done a phenomenal job. It's an honor to be in the same industry as both of you. Congratulations for all your success. We will forever obviously miss Rush, but your success is based on your great talents, and the audience has responded in kind. You've built up a huge audience in a short period of time. I'm friends with both of you. I'm so happy for both of you. Continued success. God blessings all the time, and we'll be we'll be talking soon. Our friend Sean Hannity there with really very kind words and mis Sean is such a generous, decent, great, great all around guide everybody who knows him, and saying some things there that you know, really going above and beyond. So thank you very much to the great Sean Hannity. And we did say we're going to take a bunch of calls here. We've got so many lined up. Let's go with Randy in South Carolina. He's a retired police officer in hostage negotiator. Randy, thanks for calling in, Thank you for having me on your show. So what do you think about what happened? Randy? Well, the situation in Texas. You don't want to point the fingers or calling anybody out because you don't know the level of training these officers had, but it doesn't seem like there was a that they had been to any standardized type of training like I had experienced when I was in North Carolina, and Randy, my understanding is that those officers had just finished active shooter training earlier this year. We'll see. I don't understand in what happened, having been on both sides of the coin, so to speak, as a negotiator and having taught negotiation tactics, but also I was subject to active shooter training. I know that there is a difference. The active shooter training is basically put in place because when you have a situation unfold, you always have officers from different agencies and jurisdictions arrived, and they may not know one another. But the general consensus, Randy, sorry, is if there's an active shooter, you go in as aggressively as you possibly can. You draw the fire, you may get hit, but you want the active shooter in a school situation, especially focused on you as opposed to focus on the kids. Right. Well, I would say that's partially correct. As I was to say the active shooter training is you have the same type of training, almost like a SWAT team does in the close quarter combat drilling. But then when I might say I thought I might the scene, and you arrived at the scene, and you and I have had the same training, and we get one or two more, four is the optimum number, then we're going to go in. Even though we've never trained together, even though we don't know each other, we know the tactics we're going to employ. We're going to go That's right, Randy. They had thanks. I want to keep moving as fast as we can. They had dozens of officers eventually on scene before they even went in. We got Jeffrey and Miami, Florida former Miami cop and also Hasha's negotiator, Jeffrey, thank you. Yes, I'd like to park point out the Florida Parkland school shooting. We're absually arrested the school resource officer or neglect of duty and child neglect. To me, he was a scapegoat. He didn't know exactly where that assailant was. The ones that should have been arrested was the commander showing up on the scene and the other officers that we had knowledge that they stood by and waited to go in. Also want to point out George Floyd. The officers that stood by, well, this officer killed George Floyd with his knee on his neck. They were arrested for manslaughter charges and neglect. To me, there's no difference than that than these officers standing by while a commanding officer that is not competent is standing by giving these claims to standing down. There wasn't under a unified command. There was not enough time for that. You had multiple agencies that responded. Those officers needed to take actions and should be held accountable. You look at the female officer that was arrested or pulling her gun out instead of her taser. To me, the far lefty to get off their asks. The message that they're sending is if you're out there doing your job and you fucked up or screw up, what's going to happen is we're going off to you. The message that they the send is if you're a police officer and you're not doing your job, we're going to go after you. This was a complete neglect that these officers should each be held accountable for their actions. Are we're going to come in a minute here, Thank you. We're gonna come in a minute here and talk more about the law enforcement situation in a more general sense, which is in response to the continuing why a wave of crime across the country. We'll be discussing that here in just a few moments plus. Elon Musk gets approved by the Twitter board. Clay. Pretty exciting stuff there for those those who believe in free speech. As a shareholder, I hope that this thing ends up going through because we definitely need a free speech universe. Will continue to take your calls react to everything that's going on there. We deeply thank all of you for the support of the Clay and Buck Show as we are rolling into year two now, lots of great events still to come. The red wave is rising, and we're going to be leading that charge here on playing Buck Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.