The big word of the 2020s is "affirmation." Affirm people's pronouns, affirm their lifestyle choices, affirm the decrees of America's rulers. But God doesn't care about being "nice." He cares about sin: Avoiding it ourselves, and preaching others to repentance. At a recent pastors roundtable, Charlie talks to Rob McCoy, Richard Vega, Jesse Bailey, and Neil Hoffman about standing up bravely rather than worrying about what the government says — or what the parishioners in the pews might think.