The so-called "Swamp" has been an ugly reality of government in the United States for nearly as long as our nation has existed. In this episode, Charlie is joined by professor, historian, and author, Larry Schweikart, to discuss his latest work, "Dragonslayers: Six Presidents and Their War with the Swamp" which gives a fascinating insight into the attempts by 6 great men throughout our history to take on, go to battle with, and ultimately Drain the Swamp during their tenure in The White House. He and Charlie walk through our nation's history from Lincoln to Trump and discuss who succeeded and who ultimately failed in their war with The Swamp.