Etiquette Expert Myka Meier on Holiday Gifting, Gathering, and the 'Wow Factor'

Published Dec 9, 2024, 8:05 AM

Etiquette advisor and finishing school alum Myka Meier joins us to de-mystify the holidays, from choosing a host gift with the maximum "wow factor" to creating the ultimate sensory experience at your holiday gathering. Myka brings her warm, approachable advice to winter socializing and reminds us of the power of a homemade brownie. 

Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today, on the bright Side, it's time to free yourself of holiday stress because etiquette superhero Micah Meyer is here to guide us through some of the trickiest and stickiest situations that can arise during the holiday season. We'll talk about how to wow your host with a gift and how to make a lasting first impression. It's Monday, December ninth. I'm Simone Boye and.

I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day. On my Mind Monday is brought to you by Missus Meyer's Clean Day, inspired by the goodness of the garden.

Okay, Danielle, it's Monday, which means I got something on my mind.

What's on your mind?

Okay, let me ask you something. You know, in our busy schedules, we can either leave things up to chance, leave certain activities up to chants or things that we need to do, or we can put it on our calendar, right right, What are the things in your life that you make a priority to schedule And I mean it goes on the calendar and it doesn't move.

The only thing that goes on the calendar and does not move, no matter what are my workouts. It's my number one thing. It's my happy tool. I think everything else I'm embarrassed to say is sort of malleable.

I will shift things around.

Well, that makes sense because I've always heard that if you want to prioritize something, you have to schedule it. Like some sex experts even say that if you want to make sure that you and your partner are having sex more, that you should put it on a schedule. Controversial, I know, but you know what, there's something that I came across this week that is making me reconsider that approach. Okay, So, the Greater Good Science Center out of UC Berkeley is asking the question, if we schedule things that are important to us, why not schedule happiness too. So they've introduced what feels like a revolutionary concept. Each month they put out a happiness calendar. I love this so much, Simone.

I was thinking that my word for five is going to be joy, and this fits right in.

Please tell me more. Okay, Okay, so you're gonna love this. So think of it like an advent calendar of kindness. So on each day of the month, there's a little reminder, a prompt for something that you can do to reflect and connect with others and ultimately cultivate happiness. Some of the prompts are things that you can do on your own, and some are things that you do with other people. Here are some of the examples of prompts that they give. On one day, it says paint or sketch. On another day it's something as simple as drink water. Okay. Another action could be express your opinions with humility, which is interesting, Like, you wouldn't think that that could bring you happiness, but apparently these experts that you see Berkeley are telling us it does.

I'd like to challenge these experts with all of my expertise in this field.

Well, here's one that we can get behind. Move your body is another thing they ask us to do. Write a short thank you note. I love that. Love keep up with a fanly tradition, or create a new one. Love that And this might be my favorite. It's hard to choose, but I think this might be my favorite. Spend time in or near water.

Mmmm.

That's not always possible, depending on where you live, but I love the idea.

Of trying.

I don't know.

I feel like you can even if you don't live near an ocean. You could find a creek, you could find a fountain. You could find you know, like there's something about the just the sound of running water that I think is so good for us.

You can find a fountain, that's true.

Find a fountain. So here's the thing about this calendar. Whether or not you love all these prompts, it's really just about making it personal. Like you can create your own happiness calendar each month and add in a prompt each day that feels like an authentic way for you to find your own happiness. So, Danielle, what would you add to your happiness calendar?

So I'm actually so happy you shared this because I'm thinking of using this method because I will over hide joy with things that I feel like I need to do and then by the end of the day I didn't really carve out a moment for that. And I know this sounds a little heavy, but Nelson Mandela, when he was in prison for all those years, wrote about how he would take himself places in his mind and think about joyful things as well, and if he can do it from prison in all those years, we can all do it from our couches anywhere we are.

Even thirty seconds help.

So I think for me, it's sitting down to enjoy my coffee, even if it's five minutes, tasting it, smelling it, thinking, feeling, breathing in the morning.

And then I have another goal.

I'm really going to try to do TM meditation this year. For years it's been on my list of New Year's goals and I never get to it.

And I'm really going to try to learn to meditate.

So that's going to be even like two minutes on my happy calendar?

What would be on yours?

I would add sunsets, make time watch the sunset. I would add a dance party, either solo or with friends. Something so cathartic about that. And for me, nature is always what grounds me, So I think just carving out time to go for a nature walk, go for a little hot girl nature walk. Yeah, well, this is just a simple thought starter to get you thinking about how you can cultivate happiness in new ways next year. So I'm really curious what would be on your happiness calendar? Bright Side besties, so find us on social media and let us know Okay, on the subject of calendars, December is flying by, y'all. I am feeling this holiday frenzy, and I'm also feeling the cognitive labor load that goes into figuring out how we can possibly show up for everyone around us this holiday season.

Yeah, I mean this time of year, there's that immediate rush of things to do and places to be, and it's honestly a little daunting when you start thinking about planning host gifts and going to holiday parties and how to really acknowledge your friends and family and colleagues.

There's just so much to do in a short period of time.

Yeah, time, as always is the most precious asset, Isn't it as fun as the holidays can be? I know we are not alone in feeling the stress and anxiety. Thankfully, our guest today is here to ease all of that and help take the guesswork out of the holiday hassle.

Micah Meyer is an etiquette expert, the co founder of the Plaza Hotels Finishing program, and the founder of Beaumont Etiquette, which leads courses on everything from table manners to social networking.

Stick around, because after the break, we'll bring you our conversation with Michah Meyer. Thanks to our partners at missus Myers. When it comes to cleaning, it's more fun if it smells like the garden. Missus Meyer's collection of household products smell great and pack a punch against dirt and grime. Visit missus Myers dot com. Michah Welcome to the bright Side.

Thank you so much for having me. I will always take the bright side and any day.

We just got to talk a few minutes before our recording started, and you really you are so positive. I'm excited to hear your take on etiquette. I think when people hear that word, they picture somebody very refined, very poised, or envisioned like very traditional customs. But in your work you've shared that you see it as something much deeper. It's a set of meaningful practices that bring respect and kindness to our daily lives, which I don't know who.

Couldn't get behind that. So I'm curious what your etiquette philosophy is.

I think you just hit the nail. When people think about etiquette, they think about folks and knives and that's it. But actually my philosophy is very simple, and it's that etiquette, and the only purpose behind etiquette and good manners is to show respect and kindness to everyone in all living things around us, and to think about.

Other people before ourselves. So the way that.

We hold on a knife and fork, yes that's good manners, but why.

Are we doing it?

It's to show respect to the person we are sitting across from, who wouldn't mean.

More of that.

Do you have any guiding principles? I do.

I think if somebody needs something more than yourself, then give it to them.

Do it for them.

So when you're walking down the street and somebody struggling to open a door, it doesn't matter their age or their gender. It's about helping where you can. What's more important etiquette or good manners? I actually think good manners don't tell that etiqette place, but I think good manners because etiquette is kind of like a protocol by which we do things, but good manners a two year old can know and follow.

Micah, It's no secret that the traditional practices we associate with etiquette or even good manners have really declined significantly in our society. I mean, there are things like wearing white to weddings that people still forget about or I don't know, choose to ignore or never learned. And I'm curious if you ever feel isolated as an etiquette expert in a world that seems to be abandoning a lot of these traditional practices.

Yes, you know, I think I kind of feel like I'm the flag raiser. I'm kind of like we're.

Still here for those of you that want to learn, We're still here.

I mean the amount of people that send I mean, in one day, we could have one hundred to a couple hundred dms on any social media platform asking for help on a situation, or whenever there's a TikTok of somebody doing something crazy, we get scented dozens of times. So people are looking for advice and guidance, I think, and I think there are a lot of misconceptions.

So I got to buy it's got bad here.

I needs to hypere hire a new agency. And I think that I'm trying. I'm trying to do that. And by you know, a lot of my classes are kind of mixed with pop culture, and I give a lot of pop culture references, and I'm really kind of always on the cusp of what's going on and new and in the world, and I tried to really modernize it.

I would say you have to evolve. Etiquette has to evolve as society evolves.

And we still practicing etiquette that our grandparents taught us, then it's not needed and it's almost doing a disservice. If you're still teaching or learning etiquette from fifty years.

Ago, well you are educating the masses on how to live out etiquette in the modern age. And your background in this field is so impressive. I mean, you attended finishing school and studied with a former member of the British Royal household. You have studied in multiple different countries, You've dined with dignitaries. You are just such an impressive voice in this space. And my goal for today is to leave here with some etiquette tips that I can use at my next get together and just completely wow and impress my friends, like, oh my gosh, I need I've never been thought to do that. So what are some tips that we can pull from some of your esteem training on formal gatherings that we can kind of whip out as an impressive party trick at our more casual get togethers too.

Okay, I love this game, all right.

So, whether it's business or social, when you first come into a room, imagine you're introducing people, right, so you.

Know half the people. The other people maybe don't or they don't know each other. What do you do?

So if you're the house, you're in charge of introducing people, and who gets introduced first. There's an actual order by which you introduce people to show respect, and so you say the name of the more kind of VIP person in that situation, followed by the other people in the situation to show respect that VIP. So let's say we're there for somebody's birthday, then that birthday person is the VIP. And so if it's your birthday someone that I would say, okay, simone, may I introduce Sarah because it's your birthday party, So you come first. So that's one thing you can just use for the rest of your life. Life skill.

And then it's the same for email.

So if you are emailing someone, the person who goes in the recipient section their email, whoever goes first, that's the most VIP person.

So if you're writing to your boss and.

Let's say your colleague, your boss's email comes first and your colleagues email second, and then you say dear boss's name or high boss's name and colleagues name, so it goes in the order of importance.

Interesting, I have a quick question about that.

Yes, so my only thought about ordering emails in order of importance is a lot of times I find that men are at the heads of companies still, and so all the men's names go first, and I sort of love like a microactive feminism by putting all the women's names first.

Would that be considered poor etiquette?

I think so, actually, because you are saying gender is more important, and I teach the opposite. I actually say gender is irrelevant in business because gender it's all about. It's all about who is the more VIP. So if that is a situation, let me. I like your thinking though. I like that feminist thinking.

Though.

What I would do is I would alphabetize it.

If I didn't want to put all the men's names by all the women's I would appatize it. I wouldn't do female first, because that's actually old school etiquette. That's like ladies first. And I say, that's like the word. One phrase I don't want to hear in modern etiquette is ladies first, because we're saying because of your gender, you are doing something first.

But really I think.

It's whoever deserves the kudos in that situation is first.

Ooh, Micah, I like your thinking so alphabetized. Yes, yeah, okay, default, I would call it a good default.

Okay, I'm really curious about this practice of desentering gender in business. Would you say more about that?

Yes?

So, for example, twenty years ago, in etiquette, professional might say, when you're at an office, who goes into the elevator first? And it was always ladies first, ladies first, ladies first. So you would have an intern who started on that day and she would be able to walk through first, get the first seat, the first everything, when really she just started versus maybe a male president who's been there for twenty years, and that person.

Has deserved the respect.

So it's all about showing respect to the person that has been in that position longer. So if I'm walking to the door and I, for example, I host clients all the time in my office in New York, so when I walk in, it doesn't matter if it's a male client or a female client or any gender and client.

I will open the door and say please after you.

So I think we're taking gender out of business and laying the line clear for everyone to move forward at the same pace.

Well, as we dive into the holiday season, I think we're all navigating gatherings and gift giving, which always bring up a lot of questions about etiquette. And so we asked our listeners for their holiday specific questions and we would love to get your expert advice on handling them.

Are you open to helping us out?

I would love to, yes.

Okay.

The first one is we're all going to a variety of holiday parties. And one question that we kept getting is about rsvping.

What are the basic rules of an RSVP?

All Right, if you are the person sending out the invitation, you want to avoid saying please RSVP because the p is already in the RSVP it's responsive places, which is RSVP to Micah at xyz dot com. Then, if you are the person who is sending in an RSVP, I think as soon as you know if you can.

Go, you send it in.

You don't wait until the last minute, because it's almost like looks like you were waiting for better invitation or something, and also gives that host an opportunity to invite other people if.

You can't make it.

I think if you have any dietary needs or requirements or allergies, when you send in your RSVP, you tell the host right then and there, thank you so much.

I would love to come to your holiday party. I am allergic to peanuts.

However, if you're thinking to make a dish with peanuts and it, I'd love to bring something to share with everybody that doesn't have it's in it. And I think that we don't bring guests unless we are offered a plus one, I think is a big one to be conscious of, especially with the holidays and holiday parties. Those are kind of the basics of an RSVP.

I really like that you tell people to bring a dish if they have an allergy. I think that's a great idea.

Yeah, because you know, at the end of the day, if a host was just planning and having twenty people over and ten people have diets and restrictions in this that turns almost impossible for the host. So it's just a nicety and maybe the host says, no, don't worry, I.

Got you covered.

But if you have.

Really you know, specific dietourneys, It's also just a nice gesture to ask the host if you can bring something anyway, because we never arrive empty handed, so that could be your thing that you bring anyway.

Okay, Micah, this one I have a personal attachment to. We had a listener question about canceling last minute, and I sometimes throw events for my brand. I've noticed that people really do cancel last minute, and it is tough, but I know that things come up. So what is your take on canceling last minute.

I would try everything not to cancel on someone because I know what it feels like to be canceled on as well. If you do have to cancel, you let that person know as soon as possible. It's just about again being thoughtful of the hosts and what they've done and the effort. And if you cannot attend, then I will still always send a thank you letter. Thank you so much. I'm so sorry. I still apologize. Yeah, I still think something like that is a really nice thing. It's just gratitude for being invited. That's what I would do to you if I could make your event.

I had somebody do something that really touched me and it was so small. I threw an event in New York a month ago, and I sent it through one of the invite websites and you can RSVP yes or no right on the website and they are svp'd no right away. And then their assistance sent me a separate email saying so and so can't come, but I just want to thank you for including her, and she was really touched and X, Y and Z And it was two or three sentences, but that person made me feel so much better about not attending versus the other fifteen people who couldn't attend.

It made such a huge difference.

Yes, I love things like that, really nice gestures.

Yeah, going out of your way is part of etiquette, it seems exactly.

Also, think about weddings, think about like, you know, we have these brand events, imagine on a large scale, think about, right, all these people and things like that, and people you hear these horror stories of you know, on the day of my wedding, people didn't show up, and you're like, uh.

Yes, you know, it's hard, totally, Micah.

You did touch on this briefly, but what's your strategy with host gifts? Do you kind of have a roster of gift ideas that you rely on whenever you're looking for one.

Yes, I do.

I actually have a I have a little cabinet in my house that I host gifts at all times in categories from children's all the way up to like just general ones. So if I go and I don't have time, I just grab and go and I buy in bulk too. So if I find a really great host gift, I get like ten of them at a time.

But yeah, so I.

Think, my god, I want insight into that closet.

And you went in, you would say, what on earth is this?

Sometimes my husband goes in there, He's like, whoa, what is going on?

It saves you so much time, so much time. How many times have we all been running out to a party and we're like, crap, I forgot to get a gift.

So my thoughts on this, we never show up empty handed, even for the smallest or most casual event. Someone's hosting a football party, it seems like, oh, this's not a big deal, but.

They're still hosting. It's a lot of work to host.

You should still bring something to show gratitude. I always ask the host first, is there anything I can bring? What can I You know I'm bringing something. I have this amazing bakery around the corner. I make a mean flatbread. Whatever it is that your thing is, and the host might say, oh, bring this, or they might say nope, just yourself, come and have a great time. The most common host gift to bring is a candle, but maybe not surprisingly. You just want to bring something that somebody would enjoy. I think is the big thing, so it could be different per person. You don't have to spend a certain amount of money on it. A baked good is one of my favorite things to bring. My double batch of triple chocolate brownies is like my killer, and it goes a long way and it's I wrap it up really and nicely. I think, however you bring, so if you have let's say you are invited last minute, you grab a bottle of wine because that's the only thing in front of you.

It's still about presenting it. So I've got spools of ribbon.

Take out that ribbon, cut a little piece off, curl the ends, make it beautiful and it looks so much more like a gift than if you're just handing somebody a bottle of wine. So it's how you present things. And then I would say Also, the longer you stay, the more people you bring with you, the bigger the gift. So if you're going for a whole weekend versus just a dinner party. And then my final tip is match the formality with what you bring. So if you're going to a casual barbecue, it could just be something super casual like your chocolate chip cookies. If you're going to a formal black tie birthday party at someone's home, then I would up in a notch. I'd probably mirror that formality.

You just mentioned something that made me think of a question that we received from one of our listeners. She is meeting her boyfriend's family for the first time, and she's going to visit them and stay with the family for four nights. Now you talk about not showing up empty handed. You talked about how the duration of your stay should determine the quality or size of the gift. What etiquette advice do you have for her, not just in terms of what she should bring, but also how she should compose herself inside the house with this family that she's meeting for the first time.

This is an important meeting. The pressure's on, and I think in this situation I would do a little bit of research. I wouldn't bring a generic gift. So ask your partner and say, okay, what is your mom like or what are your parents like? And let them say, well, my my mom's favorite thing to do is this, or she her favorite food. She loves to barbecue, my dad loves to go on runs, whatever it is. Find out as much information you can to make the gift the most personal. That you can bring something for everyone, especially if you're going for the weekend. And I would give the gifts really right when you walk in, so I would have my hands sort of full with a basket or something when you first walk in. The correct etiquette is to give the host gift as you walk in, so it's like that first impression, wow, boom, oh my gosh, who look, who are amazing child? Brought home what good manners? And I think it's thank you so much for having me. It's I'm so excited to finally meet you. I would have the amazing weekend and then afterwards then I would send a card and just say thank you so much. Oh I like that and that nice, beautiful handwritten thank you card is the icing on the cake. And at least if nothing else shows really good manners.

Mike.

I love how you out line the before, during, and after of accepting an invitation. And one thing I've learned from your work is the before Okay, so I actually hadn't really thought of that. I'm almost embarrassed by it. And I love the idea you have to send a flower arrangement ahead of a party so that the host doesn't have to juggle a bunch of gifts when people are arriving. I know I feel overwhelmed when people come at me all at once.

I've never thought of that.

It's a good one.

And if, for example, you're going someone dinner party, maybe they say, no, I've got everything, please just yourself.

I mean imagine sending the morning of the.

Dinner party a beautiful center piece or like a white orchid is the go to, or like a something that's plotted. It's tasteful, it's classic, it's sophisticated. It says everything about you and your gift choice, and you send that ahead with a little note that says, so looking forward to this evening, thank you so much for having me such a delight.

Xx Micah.

I love that you're an xx Mica person. I'm an ex Danielle girl. That's my sign art.

Yeah, I love it.

The centerpiece suggestion such a brilliant idea, Micah, because I think that's like the ideal floral gift for a host of a big holiday like Christmas. A lot of people forget that. Most hosts are still looking for a centerpiece even that day.

Yes, and if it's not for the main table, it's for the side table to welcome table. There's always a place to put a beautiful arrangement. And it is a wow moment because you are not expecting it and the doorbell rings and you open it in your stress, and then you get the most.

Beautiful, like oh gift.

If you're listening out there and you've never tried this and you really want to make a good impression on.

Whoever it is, try that.

We need to take a quick break, but we'll be right back with etiquette expert Micah Meyer. And we're back with Micah Meyer. Okay, Micah, I think we all know how much decor can impact the ambiance of a party, but you haven't a trick that actually goes even further for creating a full sensory experience. Can you explain what your five senses hosting trick is.

Okay, So this is.

My five senses hosting trick that anyone can do on any budget and you will always be seen as an amazing host by doing so. So within the first five minutes that your guests arrive, you have to hit all five senses of theirs. So you have to think ahead, plan ahead. So maybe there's a beautiful reef, they open the door, you're there, Hello, welcome. Maybe depending on a relationship, it's a big hug. Maybe you're taking coats or jackets, but it's a point of contact where you're welcoming and warm.

It's touch. Then you know, do you have holiday music on, setting the tone the mood? Do you have the TV's off?

Which I recommend because otherwise people just focus on the TVs. When your guests walk in, do they smell the most glorious thing baking? If you don't have food on, if you're just doing kind of appetizers, put on little cinnamon sticks in hot water and let it boil on your svetop and your whole house smells like cinnamon. And then when they come in, are they offered a beverage right away? And are there little you know or dirms sitting around that you pre made, you know, hours earlier.

It's all about organization.

But are you hitting those five senses in the first five minutes that they walk in and you're just setting the tone for the rest of the event. Try that and it always works. It works like a charm. Okay, just to recap.

So if we're appealing to the five senses as a host, you've got touch as soon as guests walk in, you shake their hand, you take their coat, smell, have a scent in the air, something you're cooking, sight, decorations on, hand flowers in terms of taste, snacks to enjoy, and then in terms of are hearing music on but no TV exactly.

Exactly, And you could do this year round. It doesn't have to be just a holidays.

It could be for a birthday, it could be for a spring garden party. It's just making sure that you're hitting those senses for whatever occasion that is.

You're such a host, do you do all these things?

I do most of them. Yeah, Micah, you gave me the language and the framework to think about it in terms of the five senses. But I have been doing these things without even realizing that it fits into that framework. I think scent is so important, Like I just want my house to smell good whenever people come over. That's big.

Yeah.

And also I think music is everything, Like if you ever catch me having a party and there's no music on, please check on me, because that's my core believes.

Yeah, exactly. I think it sounds like you're an amazing host.

Oh thank you. Well, I learned it from my mom, honestly. And I was just with my parents last night. They're so cute. They have this wine tasting party that they do every year, and like all their friends from church come, and friends from the neighborhood or from past workplaces, and it was really sweet just to talk to everyone and hear them say, like independently of my parents without them being able to hear them, like, oh, your parents are such great hosts and they make us feel so welcome. We love your parents. So I feel lucky that I had that model growing up.

Yeah, that you do learn a lot at home.

It's true, Like manners and etiquette, it starts at home, it really really does. That's where they that's where children pick up the most. So it probably was just like in your veins and you didn't even know it.

I love it, Micah. I gotta throw this one up for all the immigrant households out there. What about asking people to take their shoes off when they walk in the door. I know that this is a big thing in like non Western households. This is a hot topic.

I feel pretty strongly about this.

So whenever I walk into someone's home and I advise the same thing, I always ask, would you like me to take off my shoes? Or I look at the host when I walk in if they still have their shoes on. Sometimes they might still ask, But I think that each culture is very different. In some religions, you have to take off your shoes to walk in them home.

So I think it's being conscious of that.

There's not just like a one rule for every household type of thing.

If it's formal.

Cocktail party or dinner party, everyone keeps on their shoes and then I just do a good old mop, you know, when everyone leaves, and that's the price you pay to have a party. But if it's somebody just coming into my house, a friend of mine, they know our culture in our house is that we take off our shoes. But what I do is I have house shoes. I buy house shoes, massive stock of black slip on house shoes from Amazon. And I say, oh, I've got a pair of house shoes here for you. And my husband's more blunt. He's kind of like, would you please mind taking off your shoes. I've got a nice pair here for you. He's a no shoe in our house kind of person. And if you are the guest, expect.

That somebody makes you take off your shoes. Expect it. So check that pedicure. Do you have holes in your socks?

Put on a pair of panty hose if you need to, whatever it is, but be prepared that you are going to be a take up her shoes.

I just said, be prepared for anything.

Micah.

When you met your husband, was he on the same page as you with manners or did you have to whip him into shape?

It is the opposite, Danielle, It is the opposite. He whipped me into shape. I was living in New York, I met him and we moved to London together. This is back in two thousand and eight, and he was the one that told me I would highly advise for you to take an etiquette class.

He was the one just so you got. My dad's from Barbados, my mom's from Boston, but she's like a.

Little bit of a hippie, great house, but a hippie. And so I grew up very casually, like on a sail though on a beach bear fund in Sarasota, Florida.

And my husband is from the most.

Formal, formal family, beautiful, sweet, loving family, but a formal European family where you were couplings to breakfast. And so he told me to take an etiquette class. And that's kind of way buddy told me. He's like, I think this would help you. So I kind of went kicking and screaming. I was like, I'm offended. I remember texting my girlfriends back home being like, I'm offended.

Can you believe this?

But it was the.

Best, one of the best decisions I ever made in my whole life. My book's called Modern Etiquette Made Easy, my first book, and that first chapter explains the story about how I met my husband and how I got into etiquette.

Because so many people ask it, I was like, I'm just going to put it in as the first good old.

Juicy read of my book that he's an amazing story. Have you caught up to his etiquette or is he still leading the charge?

No, I would definitely say I have caught up, and maybe he.

Would argue this. Maybe, but I think I would be able to school him in a few things now.

It's so funny. It's like when people convert religions.

Oftentimes the person who converts becomes more emphatic about it.

Yes, this is you with etiquette.

Yes, I ended up after that class.

I went to Swiss finishing school, I mean intense school, and I went and I trained underneath the form. I member of the Queen of England's household, and I have taken every country I travel to, I take an etiquette class. It's my greatest passion. So yes, but it is favorite thing. He is actually quite charming and very very lovable. But it's his favorite.

Thing to say to me, if they could only see you now, like.

When we're when I've going cheerios in my hair and chasing around like a toddler and not in you know, maybe eating cheetos. It's like his favorite thing to say, they could only see you now.

But yeah, we do have a lot of fun. We're normal.

I like your husband. He sounds like a lot of fun.

He is very, very fun. He is well.

Micah, thank you so much for joining us on the bright Side.

Thank you so much for having me. It's been an absolute joy to be here. I've laughed a lot, so thank you.

Okay, Bessie's to be honest, I feel like we've barely just scratched the surface on these tips. So we're going to do something we've actually never done before.

Tomorrow.

We're going to be continuing our conversation with Micah. She'll be here to answer some of your questions, share advice on how to handle work situations, and how to find the perfect gift.

I cannot wait.

Micah Meyer is the founder of Beaumont Etiquette and the best selling author of Modern Etiquette Made Easy. She also co founded the Plaza Hotel finishing program.

That's such a big deal.

All right, we'll see you tomorrow for part two of our conversation.

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