With a global pandemic disrupting supply chains and triggering economic crises around the world, governments are taking steps to ensure they do not also end up with a food crisis on their hands. In Malaysia, we measure rice self-sufficiency levels, but is this a good gauge of our food security? On the Breakfast Grille, we speak to Professor Sayed Azam-Ali, until recently, CEO of Crops for the Future Research Centre, to find out more.