This week, Liza and Kara dive into SVU’s “Tragedy” (Season 5, Episode 1), discuss the murder of Laci Peterson, and sit down with legendary actor, Kellie Martin.




SOURCES:

The Murder of Laci Peterson

NY Times - 1

NY Times - 2

CNN

Rolling Stone

Alta

ABC News

Modesto Bee



WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

A Deadly Game: The Untold Story of the Scott Peterson Investigation - https://www.goodreads.com/book/690429/get_a_copy 



Next week’s episode will be “Justice” (Season 3, Episode 19).

This week, Liza and Kara dive into SVU’s “Tragedy” (Season 5, Episode 1), discuss the murder of Laci Peterson, and sit down with legendary actor, Kellie Martin. SOURCES:<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7293016/">The Murder of Laci Peterson</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/24/us/scott-peterson-death-sentence-overturned.html">NY Times - 1</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/us/scott-peterson.html">NY Times - 2</a><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/us/scott-peterson-resentencing/index.html">CNN</a><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/laci-peterson-murder-everything-you-need-to-know-199774/">Rolling Stone</a><a href="https://www.altaonline.com/dispatches/a5143/a-tale-of-two-killings/">Alta</a><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=131949&amp;page=1">ABC News</a><a href="http://modbee.com/news/local/crime/scott-peterson-case/peterson-disappearance-and-arrest/article3096720.html">Modesto Bee</a> WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:A Deadly Game: The Untold Story of the Scott Peterson Investigation - <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/690429/get_a_copy%C2%A0">https://www.goodreads.com/book/690429/get_a_copy </a> Next week’s episode will be “Justice” (Season 3, Episode 19).

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

This week, Liza and Kara dive into SVU’s “Tragedy” (Season 5, Episode 1), discuss the murder of Laci Peterson, and sit down with legendary actor, Kellie Martin.




SOURCES:

The Murder of Laci Peterson

NY Times - 1

NY Times - 2

CNN

Rolling Stone

Alta

ABC News

Modesto Bee

 

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

A Deadly Game: The Untold Story of the Scott Peterson Investigation - https://www.goodreads.com/book/690429/get_a_copy 

 

Next week’s episode will be “Justice” (Season 3, Episode 19).

Tragedy w/ Kellie Martin

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/b722e7d3-57d8-40e6-8f81-b2770080ce1e/transcript

This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Complicated” (Season 19, Episode 5), discuss the confounding death of Kacie Aleece Peterson, and interview the wonderful actor and coffee shop friend of Liza, Kellie Overbey.

SOURCES:
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
6ABC
New York Post
CNN
Kitsap Sun
Echovita

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
A is For

Next week’s episode will be “The Long Arm of the Witness” (Season 22, Episode 6).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, &ldquo;Complicated&rdquo; (Season 19, Episode 5), discuss the confounding death of Kacie Aleece Peterson, and interview the wonderful actor and coffee shop friend of Liza, Kellie Overbey.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nj-prosecutors-3-nyers-charged-in-baby-bones-case/">CBS News 1</a> <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wash-dad-ids-missing-teen-found-in-nyc/">CBS News 2</a> <a href="https://6abc.com/archive/8843990/">6ABC</a> <a href="https://nypost.com/2014/03/02/wrist-slap-sentences-for-baby-bones-death-cover-up/">New York Post</a> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/26/teen.jane.doe/index.html">CNN</a> <a href="https://archive.kitsapsun.com/news/code-911/amnesiac-teen-found-in-new-york-city-idd-as-kingston-high-student-ep-420369382-357892171.html">Kitsap Sun</a> <a href="https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/ny/new-york/kacie-aleece-peterson-19776509">Echovita</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://aisfor.org/">A is For</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;The Long Arm of the Witness&rdquo; (Season 22, Episode 6).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Complicated w/ Kellie Overbey

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/1920fc40-b4c5-4029-b31c-b4e800efe4e6/transcript

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Personal Fouls” (Season 13, Episode 2), investigate the crimes of real-life basketball coach and pedophile Ernest Lorch, and interview the legendary Dan Lauria (The Wonder Years).

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
ESPN
Sportico
Rolling Stone
New York Daily News

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Predator in the Church Basement

Next week’s episode will be “Complicated” (Season 19, Episode 5).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode &ldquo;Personal Fouls&rdquo; (Season 13, Episode 2), investigate the crimes of real-life basketball coach and pedophile Ernest Lorch, and interview the legendary Dan Lauria (The Wonder Years).
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/nyregion/riverside-church-sexual-abuse-settlement.html">The New York Times 1</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/01/nyregion/church-basketball-director-leaves-after-abuse-charge.html">The New York Times 2</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/sports/coaches-sexual-abuse.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share">The New York Times 3</a> <a href="https://www.espn.com/college-sports/highschool/news/story?id=6290287">ESPN</a> <a href="https://www.sportico.com/law/news/2026/riverside-church-abuse-cases-slow-litigation-ernest-lorch-1234941603/">Sportico</a> <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/riverside-church-basketball-ernie-lorch-abuse-lawsuit-1235446199/">Rolling Stone</a> <a href="https://www.nydailynews.com/2010/10/13/ernest-lorch-founder-of-riverside-church-basketball-program-indicted-for-sex-abuse-by-grand-jury/">New York Daily News</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/riverside-church-basketball-ernie-lorch-abuse-lawsuit-1235446199/">The Predator in the Church Basement</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Complicated&rdquo; (Season 19, Episode 5).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Personal Fouls w/ Dan Lauria

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/6213cbd3-5c27-478e-8fe5-b4e100e95287/transcript

This week, Kara and Liza recap “Spectacle” (Season 12, Episode 16) and discuss the unbelievable kidnapping of Delimar Vera.

SOURCES:
KHQ
Northwest Public Broadcasting
The Spokesman-Review
Idaho Press
HubPages
The New York Times
The Chicago Tribune
CNN
NBC News
The Guardian
Fox News
The Philadelphia Inquirer

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Cold Case Foundation

Next week’s episode will be “Personal Fouls" (Season 13, Episode 2). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza recap &ldquo;Spectacle&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 16) and discuss the unbelievable kidnapping of Delimar Vera.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.khq.com/coldcase/moscow-police-continue-to-investigate-suspected-homicide-of-university-of-idaho-student-dating-back-to/article_9c9b9dd6-b9fe-43f7-8ae3-b899bdc590b7.html">KHQ</a> <a href="https://www.nwpb.org/murrow-news/2022-05-04/remembering-wil-hendrick-a-cold-murder-case-kept-alive">Northwest Public Broadcasting</a> <a href="https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1999/jul/04/clues-examined-in-search-for-missing-idaho-student/">The Spokesman-Review</a> <a href="https://www.idahopress.com/cavalcade/2022/a-look-at-idaho-cold-cases/article_29ded298-bf00-5155-b585-5965b1122b0b.html">Idaho Press</a> <a href="https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Murder-in-Moscow-the-Mysterious-1999-Murder-of-University-of-Idaho-student-Wil-Hendrik">HubPages</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/31/technology/a-beautiful-life-an-early-death-a-fraud-exposed.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/2004/07/02/student-admits-fake-kidnapping/">The Chicago Tribune</a> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/03/01/girl.found.alive/">CNN</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna4452305">NBC News</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/mar/12/gender.uk">The Guardian</a> <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/story/woman-took-baby-from-burning-house-gets-30-years">Fox News</a> <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080725__Little_Girl_Lost___Lifetime_movie_based_on_kidnapping_of_Feltonville_baby.html">The Philadelphia Inquirer</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/">Cold Case Foundation</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Personal Fouls" (Season 13, Episode 2).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Spectacle

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/5593cbea-739d-4fc5-ae77-b4da01593429/transcript

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