Brandon sits down with Curly Velasquez, co-host of The Super Secret Bestie Club and Vice President of Development at LatiNation Media, for a funny, spiritual, and deeply messy conversation about grief, sober sex, ancestral rituals, chosen family, and the ways our bodies remember what our mouths are still learning how to say.

The conversation also gets into the idea that messiness is not new — it is inherited. From vulgar grandmas and Bible stories to queer lineage, family lore, and the people who taught us how to survive with humor, desire, and spirit still intact, Curly and Brandon unpack how the mess can be sacred and hilarious.

From altars and grandma stories to intimacy without numbing and the truth that “the only way to get through grief is to grieve,” Curly helps Brandon unpack how messiness can be inheritance, healing, and a practice of staying present.