Join Sam this week as we chat with the second of our athletes heading to the IBSA Games in Birmingham, taking place in late August. This time it's Sam Byrne, senior member of the men's goalball team the Aussie Storm.

After you hear from Sam and Sam, Vision Australia CEO Ron Hooton is back on the show with LEAP participant Cassie, who recently had the chance to be CEO for a day as part of the LEAP work experience open day at Kooyong.