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The Perfect Sandwich, Dopamine, and Systems

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John supersizes his game day food and ponders a time before cellphones ruined us. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why a picnic is no picnic and reveals how a little citrus saved some British sailors.

Plus, a conversation about goals and systems, and why one is more important than the other. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hot Air Balloons: “The only form of flight that combines a wicker basket with an open flame.”

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