John has a meeting with his inner committee and kills bugs for fun at dinner parties. 

Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like moving around onstage and tells us the unfortunate words uttered by the recipient of the first X-Ray. 

Plus, a conversation about angst, assertiveness, and whether some anxiety is actually a privilege. 

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