Today on Talk About That, it’s a Snowpocalypse! John hurts himself sledding, and has no butt 🍑. Meanwhile Jonnie tries adopting a “lunchroom” philosophy to creativity, rather than always trying to win over critics.

Also, a conversation about the illusion of safety, and how taking no risks is the biggest risk of all.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Beaded Chains®️: "Stopping you from stealing pens at your bank since 1938."