John gets a present straight from the garbage and starts a militia. Meanwhile, Jonnie wrecks his first car spectacularly and tells us about the longest baseball game in history.

Plus, a conversation about choosing hope over fear and how our actions can make deserts or forests.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bubble Tea: “When you want a drink you can chew.”

FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

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John gets a present straight from the garbage and starts a militia. Meanwhile, Jonnie wrecks his first car spectacularly and tells us about the longest baseball game in history.
Plus, a conversation about choosing hope over fear and how our actions can make deserts or forests.
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bubble Tea: “When you want a drink you can chew.”
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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How We’re Choosing Hope Instead of Cynicism (Plus Garbage Gifts and First Car Crashes)

John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl. 

Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways at the Airport: "We make you feel like you're in a factory that makes lazy people."



FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com

WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl. 
Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways at the Airport: "We make you feel like you're in a factory that makes lazy people."
 
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

Dog Training, Confused Emus, and Forgiveness

John looks bad in volleyball shorts and talks to a coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of the “redshirt freshman” in football and why the Beatles’ biggest hit was almost a song about breakfast. 

Plus, a conversation about the subtle difference between a wise person and a fool. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Oatmeal: “Tastes 45% better than it looks.”

Take a journey with us through these important topics:
John and Jonnie W. discuss the origin of the term "red shirt" in football, speculating it might be related to blood or injuries.
Ohio State football and coaching strategies
The challenges faced by young quarterbacks and the pressure of living up to expectations.
John and Jonnie W. discuss the metaphorical nature of the armor of God and how it should be understood in a broader context.
Reminisce with us about our time in youth ministry and the challenges of leading young adult ministries.
John and Jonnie W. discuss the rules and techniques of fastpitch softball, including the windup and the leg kick.
The societal pressures of hair loss and the options available for treatment, plus other absurd vanity measures like calf implants and hair transplants.
Loving Enemies and Christian Identity: resolving conflicts within the body of Christ and loving those who hate us.
Plus meteorite strikes, amazon crash survivors and more!

FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com

WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

John looks bad in volleyball shorts and talks to a coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of the “redshirt freshman” in football and why the Beatles’ biggest hit was almost a song about breakfast. 
Plus, a conversation about the subtle difference between a wise person and a fool. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Oatmeal: “Tastes 45% better than it looks.”
Take a journey with us through these important topics:
<ul>
<li>John and Jonnie W. discuss the origin of the term "red shirt" in football, speculating it might be related to blood or injuries.</li>
<li>Ohio State football and coaching strategies</li>
<li>The challenges faced by young quarterbacks and the pressure of living up to expectations.</li>
<li>John and Jonnie W. discuss the metaphorical nature of the armor of God and how it should be understood in a broader context.</li>
<li>Reminisce with us about our time in youth ministry and the challenges of leading young adult ministries.</li>
<li>John and Jonnie W. discuss the rules and techniques of fastpitch softball, including the windup and the leg kick.</li>
<li>The societal pressures of hair loss and the options available for treatment, plus other absurd vanity measures like calf implants and hair transplants.</li>
<li>Loving Enemies and Christian Identity: resolving conflicts within the body of Christ and loving those who hate us.</li>
<li>Plus meteorite strikes, amazon crash survivors and more!</li>
</ul>
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

Why Battle Language in Scripture Needs to Be Handled with Care (Plus Plane Crashes, Redshirts & Loving Our Enemies)

John supersizes his game day food and ponders a time before cellphones ruined us. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why a picnic is no picnic and reveals how a little citrus saved some British sailors.

Plus, a conversation about goals and systems, and why one is more important than the other. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hot Air Balloons: “The only form of flight that combines a wicker basket with an open flame.”

FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com

WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

John supersizes his game day food and ponders a time before cellphones ruined us. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why a picnic is no picnic and reveals how a little citrus saved some British sailors.
Plus, a conversation about goals and systems, and why one is more important than the other. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hot Air Balloons: “The only form of flight that combines a wicker basket with an open flame.”
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

How We’re Choosing Hope Instead of Cynicism (Plus Garbage Gifts and First Car Crashes)

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