John gets the flu and makes Jonnie sing the highest harmony notes ever at his wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie ambushes John’s former teenage celebrity crush for a cruise ship selfie, and tells the story of Abe Lincoln becoming buddies with a guy who wanted to kill him. 

Plus, a conversation about how to disagree with someone without dehumanizing them. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Books: “It’s like an audiobook, but with the captions on.”



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FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

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John gets the flu and makes Jonnie sing the highest harmony notes ever at his wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie ambushes John’s former teenage celebrity crush for a cruise ship selfie, and tells the story of Abe Lincoln becoming buddies with a guy who wanted to kill him. 
Plus, a conversation about how to disagree with someone without dehumanizing them. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Books: “It’s like an audiobook, but with the captions on.”
 
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: <a href="https://jonniew.com/">https://jonniew.com</a>
FOLLOW John Driver: <a href="https://johndriver.com/">https://johndriver.com</a>
Listen now on any platform at <a href="http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com/">http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com</a> 
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg</a>

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Seasickness, Elopements, & Tribalism

John tells us why he just can't lick his fingers anymore and gets jealous of the Bachelor. Meanwhile, Jonnie dishes on an exciting delivery to the old ‘Beverly Hills 90210’ set and gets irritated by fancy ketchup at restaurants. 

Plus, a conversation about talent vs discipline and why repetition matters more than you think. 

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Text Messages From Political Campaigns : "See how fast you can type 'STOP’!"


FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com

WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

John tells us why he just can't lick his fingers anymore and gets jealous of the Bachelor. Meanwhile, Jonnie dishes on an exciting delivery to the old ‘Beverly Hills 90210’ set and gets irritated by fancy ketchup at restaurants. 
Plus, a conversation about talent vs discipline and why repetition matters more than you think. 
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Text Messages From Political Campaigns : "See how fast you can type 'STOP’!"
 FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

The Importance of Voting and Civic Duties (Plus Early Baldness and Bruce Lee)

John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl. 

Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways at the Airport: "We make you feel like you're in a factory that makes lazy people."



FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com

WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl. 
Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways at the Airport: "We make you feel like you're in a factory that makes lazy people."
 
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

A Better Way to Think about Forgiveness (Plus Dog Training & Confused Emus)

John looks bad in volleyball shorts and talks to a coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of the “redshirt freshman” in football and why the Beatles’ biggest hit was almost a song about breakfast. 

Plus, a conversation about the subtle difference between a wise person and a fool. 

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Oatmeal: “Tastes 45% better than it looks.”

Take a journey with us through these important topics:
John and Jonnie W. discuss the origin of the term "red shirt" in football, speculating it might be related to blood or injuries.
Ohio State football and coaching strategies
The challenges faced by young quarterbacks and the pressure of living up to expectations.
John and Jonnie W. discuss the metaphorical nature of the armor of God and how it should be understood in a broader context.
Reminisce with us about our time in youth ministry and the challenges of leading young adult ministries.
John and Jonnie W. discuss the rules and techniques of fastpitch softball, including the windup and the leg kick.
The societal pressures of hair loss and the options available for treatment, plus other absurd vanity measures like calf implants and hair transplants.
Loving Enemies and Christian Identity: resolving conflicts within the body of Christ and loving those who hate us.
Plus meteorite strikes, amazon crash survivors and more!

FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com

FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com

WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

John looks bad in volleyball shorts and talks to a coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of the “redshirt freshman” in football and why the Beatles’ biggest hit was almost a song about breakfast. 
Plus, a conversation about the subtle difference between a wise person and a fool. 
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Oatmeal: “Tastes 45% better than it looks.”
Take a journey with us through these important topics:
<ul>
<li>John and Jonnie W. discuss the origin of the term "red shirt" in football, speculating it might be related to blood or injuries.</li>
<li>Ohio State football and coaching strategies</li>
<li>The challenges faced by young quarterbacks and the pressure of living up to expectations.</li>
<li>John and Jonnie W. discuss the metaphorical nature of the armor of God and how it should be understood in a broader context.</li>
<li>Reminisce with us about our time in youth ministry and the challenges of leading young adult ministries.</li>
<li>John and Jonnie W. discuss the rules and techniques of fastpitch softball, including the windup and the leg kick.</li>
<li>The societal pressures of hair loss and the options available for treatment, plus other absurd vanity measures like calf implants and hair transplants.</li>
<li>Loving Enemies and Christian Identity: resolving conflicts within the body of Christ and loving those who hate us.</li>
<li>Plus meteorite strikes, amazon crash survivors and more!</li>
</ul>
FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

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