John takes an "L" when he issues a snarky retraction about typewriters and brags about his ability to worry. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns a troubling fact about pillows and hopes he'll be a new man in 7 years.

Plus, a conversation about how grace goes against our urge to achieve approval.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Books: "Just like an audiobook, but with the captions on."

 

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John takes an "L" when he issues a snarky retraction about typewriters and brags about his ability to worry. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns a troubling fact about pillows and hopes he'll be a new man in 7 years.
Plus, a conversation about how grace goes against our urge to achieve approval.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Books: "Just like an audiobook, but with the captions on."
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FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
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Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Retractions, Dust Mites, and Grace

John reveals his least favorite candy and learns what beloved TV special killed the aluminum Christmas tree industry. Meanwhile, Jonnie has lunch with some comedian pals and tells the tale of the Pet Rock craze of the 1970s.

Plus, a conversation about red flags, toxic people, and how weaponized “therapy talk” has led to a loneliness epidemic.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Trail Mix: “It’s the healthiest way to eat a pound of M&M’s.”

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John reveals his least favorite candy and learns what beloved TV special killed the aluminum Christmas tree industry. Meanwhile, Jonnie has lunch with some comedian pals and tells the tale of the Pet Rock craze of the 1970s.
Plus, a conversation about red flags, toxic people, and how weaponized &ldquo;therapy talk&rdquo; has led to a loneliness epidemic.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Trail Mix: &ldquo;It&rsquo;s the healthiest way to eat a pound of M&amp;M&rsquo;s.&rdquo;
FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
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Aluminum Trees, Bad Candy, and Synthetic Connection

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John questions the morality of sneaking in outside candy to the movies. Meanwhile, Jonnie joins the podcast remotely from snowy Michigan and tells the history of the phrase “innocent until proven guilty.”

Plus, a conversation about "The Pottery Class Paradox” and why making a lot of things is better than obsessing over perfection.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Co-Pays at the Doctor’s Office: “It’s the money you pay AFTER you pay for insurance, and right before a mystery third amount that you’ll find out about later.”

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John questions the morality of sneaking in outside candy to the movies. Meanwhile, Jonnie joins the podcast remotely from snowy Michigan and tells the history of the phrase &ldquo;innocent until proven guilty.&rdquo;
Plus, a conversation about "The Pottery Class Paradox&rdquo; and why making a lot of things is better than obsessing over perfection.
Today&rsquo;s episode is NOT sponsored by Co-Pays at the Doctor&rsquo;s Office: &ldquo;It&rsquo;s the money you pay AFTER you pay for insurance, and right before a mystery third amount that you&rsquo;ll find out about later.&rdquo;
FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
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Movie Candy, Rabies, and Pottery Class

John gets his wisdom teeth out and experiences time travel. Meanwhile, Jonnie searches for a loyal dog and shares historical facts about Thanksgiving.

Plus, a conversation about Job and the two-word answer God gives to every prayer.

Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Vicks Vap-O-Rub: “You’re still sick, but now you also smell like menthol.”

FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com

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John gets his wisdom teeth out and experiences time travel. Meanwhile, Jonnie searches for a loyal dog and shares historical facts about Thanksgiving.
Plus, a conversation about Job and the two-word answer God gives to every prayer.
Today&rsquo;s episode is NOT sponsored by Vicks Vap-O-Rub: &ldquo;You&rsquo;re still sick, but now you also smell like menthol.&rdquo;
FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com
FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com
LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com
WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg

Retractions, Dust Mites, and Grace

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