John puts all his memories in the cloud and begs Jonnie not to tell him the score of the game.  Meanwhile, Jonnie performs in front of 16,000 people and hurts himself playing ice hockey. 

Plus, a conversation about toxic hustle culture, and finding the delicate balance between self-improvement and contentment. 

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