John tries living in the moment and thinks Jonnie is exactly 10% too negative. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a hypothesis about why conspiracy theories exploded the past few years and tells the tale of the WWII pilot who had no legs, and used it as an advantage. 

Plus, a conversation about the dangers of isolation and why we need each other now more than ever. 

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