John and Jonnie discuss paying college athletes, the Cold War, and the Space Race. Jonnie spends way too much time on the Flat Earth Society’s website, and John laments his wife's obsession with the volleyball scene in Top Gun. Plus, a conversation on freedom from sin, and how the Gospel isn’t only about healing our relationship with God.

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